Re: The alternative implementation of Ubuntu user statistics
22.12.2019, 00:07, "Ralf Mardorf" : > On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 21:56:54 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> /proc/cmdline provides some information about pitfalls such as >> "mitigations=off audit=off" which might vs a new kernel in combination >> with a new microcode, by still using kind of a fast past. > > path > > It should read path :D. > > IOW information mentioning the booted kernel and microcode is useless > without information about boot attributes. > > -- > “Awards are merely the badges of mediocrity.” > > ― Charles Ives > You can find boot attributes in the logs attached to each user report (aka 'probe') in the db. Thanks. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: The alternative implementation of Ubuntu user statistics
21.12.2019, 23:57, "Ralf Mardorf" : > On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 23:23:41 +0300, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I've recently initiated a new statistical project based on anonymously >> collected outputs of hwinfo, smartmontools and dmidecode utilities >> called "Linux Hardware Trends". The report for Ubuntu is now here: >> https://github.com/linuxhw/Trends/tree/master/Dist/Ubuntu >> >> The report can be considered as an alternative to Ubuntu user >> statistics (https://ubuntu.com/desktop/statistics) and helps to answer >> questions like "How popular are 32-bit systems?", "How fast is SSD >> market share growing?", "Which hard drives are less reliable?", "How >> many computers use old CPU microcode?", "How good is device drivers >> support?", etc. >> >> Please let me know if you are interested in tracking any OS/hardware >> characteristics that are not currently included in the report. >> >> The data is collected by the Snap package here: >> https://snapcraft.io/hw-probe >> >> Thanks. > > Pitfalls: > > How many percent of users do not participate? > > The HDD we bought 7 years ago might be very reliable and might live > another 7 years, even if we park and release the heads a thousand times > a day, but actually you can't purchase this disk anymore. IOW you might > get a realistic statistics, but it anyway is useless, since the drive is > discontinued. > > /proc/cmdline provides some information about pitfalls such as > "mitigations=off audit=off" which might vs a new kernel in combination > with a new microcode, by still using kind of a fast past. > > Btw. my machine internally is equipped with SSDs only, but all of my > backup drives are HDDs only and non is connected during regular > computer usage. > > I could continue the line of possible pitfalls, that most likely will > bias any statistic and render it absolutely useless. > > -- > “Awards are merely the badges of mediocrity.” > > ― Charles Ives > You can't get stats for new drives since they are new and nobody used them yet. The common use case for SMART stats is to estimate failure probability of your old drives by comparing them with other people drives of the same model in the list [1]. This is a proven approach used by companies like Google, Backblaze and Acronis. See also [2]. Thanks. [1] https://github.com/linuxhw/SMART [2] https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-stats-for-2018/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: The alternative implementation of Ubuntu user statistics
On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 21:56:54 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >/proc/cmdline provides some information about pitfalls such as >"mitigations=off audit=off" which might vs a new kernel in combination >with a new microcode, by still using kind of a fast past. path It should read path :D. IOW information mentioning the booted kernel and microcode is useless without information about boot attributes. -- “Awards are merely the badges of mediocrity.” ― Charles Ives -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: The alternative implementation of Ubuntu user statistics
On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 23:23:41 +0300, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: >Hello, > >I've recently initiated a new statistical project based on anonymously >collected outputs of hwinfo, smartmontools and dmidecode utilities >called "Linux Hardware Trends". The report for Ubuntu is now here: >https://github.com/linuxhw/Trends/tree/master/Dist/Ubuntu > >The report can be considered as an alternative to Ubuntu user >statistics (https://ubuntu.com/desktop/statistics) and helps to answer >questions like "How popular are 32-bit systems?", "How fast is SSD >market share growing?", "Which hard drives are less reliable?", "How >many computers use old CPU microcode?", "How good is device drivers >support?", etc. > >Please let me know if you are interested in tracking any OS/hardware >characteristics that are not currently included in the report. > >The data is collected by the Snap package here: >https://snapcraft.io/hw-probe > >Thanks. > Pitfalls: How many percent of users do not participate? The HDD we bought 7 years ago might be very reliable and might live another 7 years, even if we park and release the heads a thousand times a day, but actually you can't purchase this disk anymore. IOW you might get a realistic statistics, but it anyway is useless, since the drive is discontinued. /proc/cmdline provides some information about pitfalls such as "mitigations=off audit=off" which might vs a new kernel in combination with a new microcode, by still using kind of a fast past. Btw. my machine internally is equipped with SSDs only, but all of my backup drives are HDDs only and non is connected during regular computer usage. I could continue the line of possible pitfalls, that most likely will bias any statistic and render it absolutely useless. -- “Awards are merely the badges of mediocrity.” ― Charles Ives -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
The alternative implementation of Ubuntu user statistics
Hello, I've recently initiated a new statistical project based on anonymously collected outputs of hwinfo, smartmontools and dmidecode utilities called "Linux Hardware Trends". The report for Ubuntu is now here: https://github.com/linuxhw/Trends/tree/master/Dist/Ubuntu The report can be considered as an alternative to Ubuntu user statistics (https://ubuntu.com/desktop/statistics) and helps to answer questions like "How popular are 32-bit systems?", "How fast is SSD market share growing?", "Which hard drives are less reliable?", "How many computers use old CPU microcode?", "How good is device drivers support?", etc. Please let me know if you are interested in tracking any OS/hardware characteristics that are not currently included in the report. The data is collected by the Snap package here: https://snapcraft.io/hw-probe Thanks. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
