Re: The latest nightly cdimages / ISO's are above 710 megs

2007-09-17 Thread Alec Wright
On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 08:29:10AM +0100, Tim Kersten wrote:
> For people wanted to test actual hardware I think
> it may be a problem if the cd images remain so big as they won't be
> able to burn them.

As a temporary measure, they work fine if you burn them to a DVD RW
(which is what I do)
Also, there's a technique called overburning, as described here:
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=6093


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Re: The latest nightly cdimages / ISO's are above 710 megs

2007-09-17 Thread Tim Kersten
On 9/17/07, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 08:29:10AM +0100, Tim Kersten wrote:
> > I know I'm subscribed to the digest for this mailing list so I don't
> > know if it's been addressed yet, but it's not just the amd64 cd
> > images. I've noticed that they're all too big since. At least since
> > the 12th September. For people wanted to test actual hardware I think
> > it may be a problem if the cd images remain so big as they won't be
> > able to burn them.
>
> Yes, we'll be sorting this out before beta.
>
> > I filled a bug about this: 
> > https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/139646
>
> Please don't file bugs about this in future. They tend not to get
> noticed by the people who actually reduce the CD size again, and they
> just hang around until somebody remembers to close them. Furthermore, we
> don't need bugs about this as it's automatically a release blocker for
> CDs to be oversized.

Sorry about that. Won't happen again :-)

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Re: The latest nightly cdimages / ISO's are above 710 megs

2007-09-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 08:29:10AM +0100, Tim Kersten wrote:
> I know I'm subscribed to the digest for this mailing list so I don't
> know if it's been addressed yet, but it's not just the amd64 cd
> images. I've noticed that they're all too big since. At least since
> the 12th September. For people wanted to test actual hardware I think
> it may be a problem if the cd images remain so big as they won't be
> able to burn them.

Yes, we'll be sorting this out before beta.

> I filled a bug about this: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/139646

Please don't file bugs about this in future. They tend not to get
noticed by the people who actually reduce the CD size again, and they
just hang around until somebody remembers to close them. Furthermore, we
don't need bugs about this as it's automatically a release blocker for
CDs to be oversized.

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The latest nightly cdimages / ISO's are above 710 megs

2007-09-17 Thread Tim Kersten
Hello!

I know I'm subscribed to the digest for this mailing list so I don't
know if it's been addressed yet, but it's not just the amd64 cd
images. I've noticed that they're all too big since. At least since
the 12th September. For people wanted to test actual hardware I think
it may be a problem if the cd images remain so big as they won't be
able to burn them.

I filled a bug about this: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/139646

Cheers,
Tim

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> From: Scott Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Murat Gunes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:41:53 -0700
> Subject: Re: The latest amd64 nightly desktop ISO is 730 megs
> Murat Gunes wrote:
> > Bryce wrote:
> >> That really does not make any sense if thats the case.  What is the
> >> point in making daily images available for testing if know one is going
> >> to be able to use them?
> >
> > Not many daily images end up oversized. If it were a substantial
> > percentage of all images, you'd have a point. With the current state of
> > things, people can wait a day, or two at worst, or use the image from a
> > day or two before (I think jidgo is not an option with the live CDs, but
> > should be usable with the alternate CD; I'd be happy if someone could
> > confirm this). It's not realistic to expect all uploads to be concerted
> > to such an extent as to be able to meet a certain maximum size on a
> > daily basis.
> >
> > Scott Ritchie wrote:
> >> Perhaps the build script should throw up a warning somewhere.  Otherwise
> >> there's almost no point to having them.
> >
> > I think it creates files that end with .OVERSIZED corresponding to the
> > image that ends up being oversized.
> >
> > m.
> >
> >
>
> In this case it didn't - I didn't even come across a warning.  Honestly
> it would be best if no image was made, rather than an unburnable one.
> Nothing wrong with skipping a few days when the nightly isn't buildable.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Scott Ritchie
>
>
>
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