Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-10 Thread Aren Olson

On 1/10/07, Scott Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 13:57 -0600, Aren Olson wrote:
> Here's a few useful repositories I use (copied from sources.list):
> ## Latest Wine
> ## Site: http://winehq.com/site/download-deb
> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/ edgy main
> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/ edgy main

By the way, I've added an apt key for this now.  It's here:

http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg



Thanks, here's the revised entry:

## Latest Wine
## Site: http://winehq.com/site/download-deb
## GPG Key: wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo
apt-key add -
deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/ edgy main
deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/ edgy main

Aren Olson

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Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-10 Thread Scott Ritchie
On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 13:57 -0600, Aren Olson wrote:
> Here's a few useful repositories I use (copied from sources.list):
> ## Latest Wine
> ## Site: http://winehq.com/site/download-deb
> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/ edgy main 
> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/ edgy main 

By the way, I've added an apt key for this now.  It's here:

http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg

Thanks,
Scott Ritchie


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Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-08 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Am Sonntag, den 07.01.2007, 11:39 +0100 schrieb Dennis Kaarsemaker:
> On za, 2007-01-06 at 17:30 -0800, Constantine Evans wrote:
> > 
> > Perhaps it would be better to allow repositories to add an extra file
> > that would contain a title and description, and then use that
> > information? Such a method would require that repositories do extra
> > work
> > to support it, but I expect that most safe repositories would do so.
> 
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/software-channels

Why did you choose the term channel? It could be quite confusing with
smart's channels.

Cheers,

Sebastian


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Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-08 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Am Sonntag, den 07.01.2007, 11:39 +0100 schrieb Dennis Kaarsemaker:
> On za, 2007-01-06 at 17:30 -0800, Constantine Evans wrote:
> > 
> > Perhaps it would be better to allow repositories to add an extra file
> > that would contain a title and description, and then use that
> > information? Such a method would require that repositories do extra
> > work
> > to support it, but I expect that most safe repositories would do so.

It is currently broken in edgy, but software-properties can handle
sources.list files. So if a repository maintainer provides a
sources.list that contains his or her apt line and an additional
comment, the user could add the repository by double clicking on the
downloaded file or droping it on the third party repo list.

Until a fixed package appears you can find the patch attached to this
mail.

Cheers,

Sebastian
=== modified file 'SoftwareProperties/SoftwareProperties.py'
--- SoftwareProperties/SoftwareProperties.py	2006-10-04 12:05:41 +
+++ SoftwareProperties/SoftwareProperties.py	2006-11-23 17:02:35 +
@@ -317,8 +317,8 @@
 self.distro.main_server])
 if self.distro.country != None:
 # TRANSLATORS: %s is a country
-server_store.append([_("Server for %s") % gettext.dgettext("iso-3166",
- self.distro.country).rstrip(),
+server_store.append([_("Server for %s") % gettext.dgettext("iso_3166",
+ self.distro.country.rstrip()).rstrip(),
  self.distro.nearest_server])
 else:
 server_store.append([_("Nearest server"),

=== modified file 'SoftwareProperties/dialog_add_sources_list.py'
--- SoftwareProperties/dialog_add_sources_list.py	2006-07-31 21:43:51 +
+++ SoftwareProperties/dialog_add_sources_list.py	2006-11-23 17:02:35 +
@@ -122,6 +122,6 @@
 
 class SingleSourcesList(SourcesList):
 def __init__(self, file):
-self.matcher = SourceEntryMatcher()
+self.matcher = SourceEntryMatcher("/usr/share/update-manager/channels/")
 self.list = []
 self.load(file)



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Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-07 Thread Matthew Kuiken
Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote:
> On za, 2007-01-06 at 17:30 -0800, Constantine Evans wrote:
>> Perhaps it would be better to allow repositories to add an extra file
>> that would contain a title and description, and then use that
>> information? Such a method would require that repositories do extra
>> work
>> to support it, but I expect that most safe repositories would do so.
> 
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/software-channels
> 

I had read that spec in the past, but I had totally forgotten about it. 
  This makes much more sense if it is implemented.  I added a suggestion 
that I thought of while reading through it, and subscribed myself so I 
won't forget it in the future.

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Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-07 Thread Dennis Kaarsemaker
On za, 2007-01-06 at 17:30 -0800, Constantine Evans wrote:
> 
> Perhaps it would be better to allow repositories to add an extra file
> that would contain a title and description, and then use that
> information? Such a method would require that repositories do extra
> work
> to support it, but I expect that most safe repositories would do so.

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/software-channels
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Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-06 Thread Scott Ritchie
On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 17:30 -0800, Constantine Evans wrote:
> Perhaps it would be better to allow repositories to add an extra file
> that would contain a title and description, and then use that
> information? Such a method would require that repositories do extra work
> to support it, but I expect that most safe repositories would do so.

This was my thought exactly.  It would be fairly trivial to add a text
file to the Apt repository that had a simple one-line description of the
repository's contents (perhaps in multiple languages).  Hell, it's not
much more work than setting up the repository in the first place - I'd
do it the next time I upload a Wine package.

This also seems like a far more elegant approach than trying to maintain
a config file of known repositories in the system somewhere.  Such a
file would either become quickly out of date or a pain to keep current -
a change would require the repository owner contacting the maintainer of
the config and then having him update it and then having the user
download the update.

Thanks,
Scott Ritchie


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Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-06 Thread Constantine Evans
Matthew Kuiken wrote:
> If a repository is not found in the configuration file that you keep 
> this description list in, a comment one line above the deb line in the 
> sources.list is used.  When new repositories are added using the 
> Software Sources dialog, it could prompt for this description, and add 
> the comment along with the source line.  It may be necessary to precede 
> with, and check for, a double hash, or something similar to ensure that 
> the comment is not just another commented repository, but such 
> functionality would allow the addition of any repository with an 
> accompanying description.


This would require that users write their own descriptions, and thus I
do not think that it would be used in most circumstances. The only time
this would be useful in a significant way would be if the user
downloaded and used a sources.list that was posted somewhere. However,
given the hideousness of most lists I have seen posted for Ubuntu
(TreviƱo's, for example), I would imagine that this is something we want
to highly discourage.

Perhaps it would be better to allow repositories to add an extra file
that would contain a title and description, and then use that
information? Such a method would require that repositories do extra work
to support it, but I expect that most safe repositories would do so.

Constantine


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Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-06 Thread Dennis Kaarsemaker
On za, 2007-01-06 at 21:59 +0100, Ernst Persson wrote:
> I'd like to add
> #DEBIAN MULTIMEDIA

Yes, let's add Debian repos to Ubuntu! Let's lt all our users do weird
lubc upgrades again! Woohoo! 
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Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-06 Thread Matthew Kuiken
Sebastian Heinlein wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am thinking about providing nice descriptions for some widely used
> third party repositories:
> 
> So if you add the apt line e.g. of Skype ("deb
> http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free") we could
> show a nice description in the software sources dialog instead of the
> very technical apt line.
> 
> But since I only use the Ubuntu repositories I would need your help to
> collect some repositories. Please reply to this mail which repositories
> you use.

Others have already pointed out all the 3rd party repositories I've ever 
dealt with, so I thought I'd just throw out an idea here.

Since repositories are always going to change throughout any release 
cycle, you can never know all the repositories that are going to become 
common.  Even if it is not common, it would be nice to be able to create 
a description, thus my proposition:

If a repository is not found in the configuration file that you keep 
this description list in, a comment one line above the deb line in the 
sources.list is used.  When new repositories are added using the 
Software Sources dialog, it could prompt for this description, and add 
the comment along with the source line.  It may be necessary to precede 
with, and check for, a double hash, or something similar to ensure that 
the comment is not just another commented repository, but such 
functionality would allow the addition of any repository with an 
accompanying description.

I have not done any Python coding, so I don't know how difficult this 
would be to implement, but it seems like a flexible implementation.  The 
main issue I see with it is the same issue that people have with the way 
comments are used in the menu.lst.  Some people don't like that the 
comments are used as more than normal comments...  Thoughts?

-Matt



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Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-06 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Am Samstag, den 06.01.2007, 20:23 + schrieb Alec Wright:

> Wow! This is a pretty good idea.
> In the software sources program, the Third Party tab can be renamed to
> Custom Software Sources or something, and there could be a tab added
> where you can check some checkboxes for third party repositories. It
> could be called "Extra Repositories" or something. But the only problem
> I can think of is that we're always being told, "don't use 3rd party
> repositories". I suppose that what we could do is add a not saying
> something like, "These repositories are not supported or reccomended by
> Cannonical, and are only added here for your conveinience, as they are
> commonly used."

Thanks for sharing your sources list. I am not sure if this is such a
good approach. If there is highly recommended software, we should try to
get it into the Ubuntu archive and not encourage users to install
software from somehow untrusted software providers.

Cheers,

Sebastian


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Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-06 Thread Ernst Persson

I'd like to add
#DEBIAN MULTIMEDIA
deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimediaunstable
main

to the list. It's one of many mirrors of cource...

BR
/Ernst

On 1/6/07, Sebastian Heinlein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello,

I am thinking about providing nice descriptions for some widely used
third party repositories:

So if you add the apt line e.g. of Skype ("deb
http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free") we could
show a nice description in the software sources dialog instead of the
very technical apt line.

But since I only use the Ubuntu repositories I would need your help to
collect some repositories. Please reply to this mail which repositories
you use.

Cheers,

Sebastian


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Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-06 Thread Alec Wright
On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 19:14 +0100, Sebastian Heinlein wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am thinking about providing nice descriptions for some widely used
> third party repositories:
> 
> So if you add the apt line e.g. of Skype ("deb
> http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free") we
could
> show a nice description in the software sources dialog instead of the
> very technical apt line.
> 
> But since I only use the Ubuntu repositories I would need your help to
> collect some repositories. Please reply to this mail which
repositories
> you use.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Sebastian
> 
> 

Wow! This is a pretty good idea.
In the software sources program, the Third Party tab can be renamed to
Custom Software Sources or something, and there could be a tab added
where you can check some checkboxes for third party repositories. It
could be called "Extra Repositories" or something. But the only problem
I can think of is that we're always being told, "don't use 3rd party
repositories". I suppose that what we could do is add a not saying
something like, "These repositories are not supported or reccomended by
Cannonical, and are only added here for your conveinience, as they are
commonly used."

My list of repositories, with captions are:
deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free #Skype
deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable #nVidia Beta
Drivers (There are various mirrors of this, but I haven't a clue what
they are)
deb http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas edgy-seveas extras
#Seveas' Extras (There are other mirrors and components of this
repository, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages)
deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main #Beryl (There are mirrors
of this, too)



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Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-06 Thread Aren Olson

Here's a few useful repositories I use (copied from sources.list):

## Beryl Compositing Window Manager
## Site: http://www.beryl-project.org/
## GPG key: wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -O- |
sudo apt-key add -
deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main
deb-src http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main

## Seveas' Packages
## Includes: falcon, flash 9, gftp, mirage, misc. codecs, ttf-fossfonts
## Site: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/
## GPG key: wget http://seveas.imbrandon.com/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key
add -
deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ edgy-seveas all
deb-src http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ edgy-seveas all

## Latest Wine
## Site: http://winehq.com/site/download-deb
deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/ edgy main
deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/ edgy main

## Murrine GTK engine
## Site: http://cimi.netsons.org/pages/murrine.php
## GPG Key: wget http://malteo.homelinux.net/B54820BC.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key
add -
deb http://malteo.homelinux.net/ edgy-malteo extras
deb-src http://malteo.homelinux.net/ edgy-malteo extras

On 1/6/07, Sebastian Heinlein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello,

I am thinking about providing nice descriptions for some widely used
third party repositories:

So if you add the apt line e.g. of Skype ("deb
http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free") we could
show a nice description in the software sources dialog instead of the
very technical apt line.

But since I only use the Ubuntu repositories I would need your help to
collect some repositories. Please reply to this mail which repositories
you use.

Cheers,

Sebastian


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Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-06 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Sebastian

Sebastian Heinlein wrote:
> But since I only use the Ubuntu repositories I would need your help to
> collect some repositories. Please reply to this mail which repositories
> you use.

If you're collecting repositories, you can get a large amount of them,
with some brief descriptions, at http://www.apt-get.org/

Of course, many of them have the potential to break your Ubuntu system.

Shouldn't this be a thread for ubuntu-users?

-Jonathan

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Re: Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-06 Thread Alex Jones
On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 19:14 +0100, Sebastian Heinlein wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am thinking about providing nice descriptions for some widely used
> third party repositories:
> 
> So if you add the apt line e.g. of Skype ("deb
> http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free") we could
> show a nice description in the software sources dialog instead of the
> very technical apt line.
> 
> But since I only use the Ubuntu repositories I would need your help to
> collect some repositories. Please reply to this mail which repositories
> you use.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Sebastian
> 
> 

http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main

It's the official Wine repository, budgetdedicated just sponsor it.

Great idea, BTW. I think pushing third party repos for auxiliary
software is worthwhile.
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Which third party repository do you use?

2007-01-06 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Hello,

I am thinking about providing nice descriptions for some widely used
third party repositories:

So if you add the apt line e.g. of Skype ("deb
http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free") we could
show a nice description in the software sources dialog instead of the
very technical apt line.

But since I only use the Ubuntu repositories I would need your help to
collect some repositories. Please reply to this mail which repositories
you use.

Cheers,

Sebastian


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