Re: Testdrive fails to boot Saucy Beta 2, CPU not PAE supported

[george fragos]

Sorry for returning, but I was deceived in collecting cpuinfo and posting
in my messages: eventually, cat /proc/cpuinfo output includes the pae flag
for my cpu! Then, why running the Beta 2 for Saucy under
Testdrive-Virtualbox aborts with the same "pae feature not present" for the
cpu...?What do I do wrong...?


2013/9/26 Ali Linx (amjjawad) 

>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Romuald TISSERAND 
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the mistake.
>>
>
> No worries, it is okay :)
>
>
>> In 12.04 you were be able to install on non PAE CPU with the alternate
>> CD.
>>
>
> Only with Lubuntu which has many ISO more than any other flavour -
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/Why_So_Many_ISOs
> And, we were able to do that as well from the Desktop ISO too.
>
>
>> Didn't know this has changed.
>>
>
> Just to make sure we both at the same page, Both Alternate and Desktop
> ISOs have the same Kernel, it is just the installation approach that is
> different (GUI vs CLI).
>
>
>>
>> romu
>>
>>
> Thank you!
>
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Unable to pick select another language for the section in 3.10

[Fran Dieguez]

Hi,

I'm using Ubuntu GNOME with GNOME 3.10 in English language. I've tried 
to change to the Galician language but I cant find it in Region & 
Language -> Language option list.


I've installed language-selector-gnome to test if I could do this with 
it. And I could. From this one I can find Galician listed.


So, I suppose that this is a bug in the g-c-c. Anyone can reproduce this 
too?


I'll try to report it in launchpad.net tomorrow, it someone can confirm it.

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Re: [Testing] Installation and personal introduction

[Manuel Cuadra]

Thank you for your reply João,
I will certainly look into joining l10n.gnome.org to help translate Gnome.

2013/9/26 João Santana:
> You can join the Ubuntu Translation Team for your localization OR
> contribute directly with translations to the GNOME Project using Damned
> Lies website translation interface [1]

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Re: Testing - lack of proper messages post-install

[Lance]

I noticed that this had been reported on the QA Tracker by Manuel Cuadra:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/966480

But either those bug stats need to be updated by someone or a new bug filed.

Can Tim or Jeremy help out there?

Thanks in advance,

Lance





 From: Lance 
To: Lance ; Joseph Godino  
Cc: "ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com"  
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: Testing - lack of proper messages post-install
 


Oops, that should have said:

you should see a message saying to "remove installation media/close tray/press 
enter"


The lack of the word "media" made it nonsensical ... sorry,

Lance



 From: Lance 
To: Joseph Godino  
Cc: "ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com"  
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: Testing - lack of proper messages post-install
 


After that you should see a message saying to "remove installation/close 
tray/press enter", so I'm sometimes also not seeing that. Without the proper 
instruction one could easily think that a hard reboot is the only way to 
proceed, but simply removing the installation media and pressing enter does 
work.

So it has something to do with the proper message not being displayed which 
creates confusion. I'm now cross-testing Lubuntu to see if it does likewise ;^)

Lance





 From: Joseph Godino 
To: Lance  
Cc: "ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com"  
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: Testing - lack of proper messages post-install
 

I install directly from the live CD - this gives two options - to try
Ubuntu without installing and to install Ubuntu. I choose the second
option. Once the installation is complete a window pops up telling you
that a reboot is required. I choose to reboot. After this the screen
goes black and then the CD is ejected. After that the screen remains
black a control-alt-delete is required to restart the computer.

Sounds like the the computer is not getting the restart signal.

Cheers,

Joe
On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 22:07 -0700, Lance wrote:
> Yes! I see this too!
> 
> Maybe Tim can help out with this between now and final release.
> 
> Just to be clear;
> 
> If you start the installation from the live DE when you're asked to
> reboot or continue with the live session, and then select reboot, you
> are presented with a "remove disc/close tray/press enter" dialog.
> 
> But if you initially choose install rather than installing from the
> live DE you get no such dialog.
> 
> So it's not a casper bug, maybe syslinux??? Or is it just an artwork
> thing?
> 
> Lance
> 
> PS, I'm sure this message looks horrible but I'm hardware challenged
> ATM :^(
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __
> From: Joseph Godino 
> To: ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com 
> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 5:01 PM
> Subject: Testing
> 
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I just installed the September 20th
 daily build of Ubuntu GNOME one my
> PC. The
 installation was flawless up until the final phase when I was
> asked to restart my computer. Upon hitting the restart button the
> screen
> went black and after a few seconds the CD ejected. However at this
> point
> the screen remained black. I had to initiate a control-alt-delete to
> reboot the computer. The system ran without error after that.
> 
> I also installed the proprietary Nvidia drivers from the Software
> Center. I experienced no problems after doing that.
> 
> This looks like a GREAT release!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Joe
> 
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[Testing] Early issues

[Ernesto Lana]

Dear community members,

I'm testing the Ubuntu GNOME 13.10 OS and I will be sending information about 
issues and findings.

--- Machine information ---

Model: Sony Vaio Pro Ultrabook (SVP13215PLS)
Memory: 7.7GB
Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-4200U CPU @ 1.60GHz × 4 

Graphics: Intel® Haswell Mobile 

OS type: 64-bit
OS: Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 in the whole disk


-

--- Found issues 
1. The EFI installation does not work. UG installs normally but it does not 
boot. I had to install with the bios in legacy mode.
2. When returning from suspension, the mouse pointer and touchscreen do not 
work anymore.
3. When going into screensaver (super+L), the screen turns off for about 5 
seconds before showing the clock.

-

I installed UG 13.10 because the 13.04 version kernel does not support many of 
the hardware and features of my machine. I will continue testing and reporting 
issues by this mailing list, hoping this improves the functionality of the OS. 
If any of you have advice on enhancing my testing reports I'll be grateful.

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Re: Testdrive fails to boot Saucy Beta 2, CPU not PAE supported

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:

> Sorry for the mistake.
>

No worries, it is okay :)


> In 12.04 you were be able to install on non PAE CPU with the alternate CD.
>

Only with Lubuntu which has many ISO more than any other flavour -
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/Why_So_Many_ISOs
And, we were able to do that as well from the Desktop ISO too.


> Didn't know this has changed.
>

Just to make sure we both at the same page, Both Alternate and Desktop ISOs
have the same Kernel, it is just the installation approach that is
different (GUI vs CLI).


>
> romu
>
>
Thank you!


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Re: [Testing] Installation and personal introduction

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Manuel Cuadra  wrote:

> >
> > Hmm, my system works just fine.
> >
> > Does it work from the LiveCD/LiveUSB?
> >
>
> I've Installed from a LiveUSB
>
> Ok, I think the problem is that the DHCP server is not giving the
> computer an IP because I can do a manual ip setting and it works, I
> tested the LiveUsb on a Netbook and it works with Wifi and the DHCP
> gives and IP with no problems, so It might be the cable or something
> like that, nothing related to the ISO,


I am very glad that we found something and it is really nice to read such
nice explanation :)



> the only bug that I found was
> that it doesn't prompt to restart after installation, it just reboots.
>

This is a known bug and nothing specific with Ubuntu GNOME itself.


>
> I will file that info on the test submit and thank you for helping out.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Manuel Cuadra
>

Thank you for testing and helping, much appreciated and you are most
welcome :)

If you are willing to help us on the long run, please have a read on:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved

It would be great to have someone like you with us :)

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Re: [Testing] Installation and personal introduction

[Manuel Cuadra]

>
> Hmm, my system works just fine.
>
> Does it work from the LiveCD/LiveUSB?
>

I've Installed from a LiveUSB

Ok, I think the problem is that the DHCP server is not giving the
computer an IP because I can do a manual ip setting and it works, I
tested the LiveUsb on a Netbook and it works with Wifi and the DHCP
gives and IP with no problems, so It might be the cable or something
like that, nothing related to the ISO, the only bug that I found was
that it doesn't prompt to restart after installation, it just reboots.

I will file that info on the test submit and thank you for helping out.

Sincerely,

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Re: Testdrive fails to boot Saucy Beta 2, CPU not PAE supported

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Sorry for the mistake. In 12.04 you were be able to install on non PAE CPU
with the alternate CD. Didn't know this has changed.

romu


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Romuald TISSERAND 
> wrote:
>
>> In this case, you need to install with the Alternate CD.
>>
>
> Actually, this is not correct. The Alternate ISO has the same Kernel of
> the Desktop ISO. The main difference is the Alternate has NO fancy GUI
> installer but rather a Text-Based Installer for special cases like LOW RAM:
>
>
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/150202/difference-between-live-cd-and-alternate-cd
>
> As I have mentioned on my previous email, Ubuntu GNOME 13.04 and 13.10
> both don't really support NON-PAE CPUs and therefore, can not be installed
> on a machine with NON-PAE CPU.
>
> Thank you!
>
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Re: [Testing] Installation and personal introduction

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Manuel Cuadra  wrote:

> >>
> >>
> >> I'm installing Gnome Daily
> >
> >
> > Which one exactly?
> >
> >
>
> I'm Using Sauce Daily 26-09-2013
>

Hmm, my system works just fine.

Does it work from the LiveCD/LiveUSB?


>
> >
> >
> > That was a bug and I believe it is fixed now. I was just on Ubuntu GNOME
> > Saucy and I had an internet connection
> >
> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2174765
> >
>
> Ok, I finished the install and it also does't work on the main
> install, if I do a ifup eth0 it say "ignoring unkown interface
> eth0=eth0" but in ifconfig it shows the interface.
>
>
What dose "sudo lshw -C network" show??



> Thank you for your quick reply.
>
> - Manuel
>

At your service :)


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Re: Testdrive fails to boot Saucy Beta 2, CPU not PAE supported

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Hi,


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:

> In this case, you need to install with the Alternate CD.
>

Actually, this is not correct. The Alternate ISO has the same Kernel of the
Desktop ISO. The main difference is the Alternate has NO fancy GUI
installer but rather a Text-Based Installer for special cases like LOW RAM:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/150202/difference-between-live-cd-and-alternate-cd

As I have mentioned on my previous email, Ubuntu GNOME 13.04 and 13.10 both
don't really support NON-PAE CPUs and therefore, can not be installed on a
machine with NON-PAE CPU.

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Re: [Testing] Installation and personal introduction

[Manuel Cuadra]

>>
>>
>> I'm installing Gnome Daily
>
>
> Which one exactly?
>
>

I'm Using Sauce Daily 26-09-2013

>
>
> That was a bug and I believe it is fixed now. I was just on Ubuntu GNOME
> Saucy and I had an internet connection
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2174765
>

Ok, I finished the install and it also does't work on the main
install, if I do a ifup eth0 it say "ignoring unkown interface
eth0=eth0" but in ifconfig it shows the interface.

Thank you for your quick reply.

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Re: [Testing] Installation and personal introduction

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Manuel Cuadra  wrote:

> Hello, I want to contribute to the Gnome Project by doing testing and
> translation in any way I can
>

Hello and Welcome to Ubuntu GNOME Mailing List :)

Thank you so much for joining and offering your help, this is really nice :)
I guess you have seen the recruitment post on the Social Media, correct?



> since I don't see any material related
> to Translation


Indeed, this area needs some love
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Translations




> I'm going to be doing the QA testing.


That would be perfect :)



> I have Spare
> computers to use in my office and I have about an hour or more a day
> so I hope I can help as much as possible.
>

That would be super great and more than enough as a starter :)

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing



> With that in mind also want to say that my experience in Linux is a
> little mixed, I've been using it as a Server for more than 7 years and
> I tried using Ubuntu since version 9 but I always get bottlenecked
> because of video performance (I have a Nvidia GTX 260), usually if I
> open 3 or 4 tabs with youtube videos the FPS just went down...
>
> Ok, but now that is over, Nvidia has made better drivers and started
> to contribute a little more in the Linux community so now I'm exited
> and I want to be part of the change.


Sorry about your troubles with that and thanks for sharing :)



> So to no further talking about
> me, I would like to ask about something in the testing area:
>

Sure, we are at your service!



>
> I'm installing Gnome Daily


Which one exactly?



> and when I get to the installer, it reports
> that it finds a Network interface and tries to connect but I doesn't
> work, if I use a stable release installer it works right away. How can
> I test this things to report the bug and not sound like "Internet
> doesn't work" person.
>
> Hope to help,
>

That was a bug and I believe it is fixed now. I was just on Ubuntu GNOME
Saucy and I had an internet connection

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2174765




>
> Sincerely,
>
> Manuel
>
>
If you have any other Q, please feel free to ask!


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Re: Testdrive fails to boot Saucy Beta 2, CPU not PAE supported

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:35 AM, george fragos wrote:

> I'm using Testdrive to test "Ubuntu Desktop-(saucy)", Beta 2, but when I
> press Launch after the sync completes KVM (Qemu) goes to a halt and
> Virtualbox says "This kernel requires the following features not present on
> the CPU: pae. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your
> CPU." Since the CPU does not support PAE kernels, is it possible to install
> a non-PAE kernel of Saucy Beta 2 and test it through Testdrive...? Any
> other ideas?
>
> George
>

Hi,

Starting from 12.04, Ubuntu Team has dropped the support for NON-PAE CPUs
from the default Kernel. Lubuntu and Xubuntu Team both maintained a NON-PAE
Kernel for 12.04 but starting from 12.10, all Ubuntu Official Flavours were
using PAE Kernel means users must have PAE CPU.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE

Having that said, Ubuntu GNOME 13.04 and 13.10 will require a PAE CPU :)

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[Testing] Installation and personal introduction

[Manuel Cuadra]

Hello, I want to contribute to the Gnome Project by doing testing and
translation in any way I can, since I don't see any material related
to Translation I'm going to be doing the QA testing. I have Spare
computers to use in my office and I have about an hour or more a day
so I hope I can help as much as possible.

With that in mind also want to say that my experience in Linux is a
little mixed, I've been using it as a Server for more than 7 years and
I tried using Ubuntu since version 9 but I always get bottlenecked
because of video performance (I have a Nvidia GTX 260), usually if I
open 3 or 4 tabs with youtube videos the FPS just went down...

Ok, but now that is over, Nvidia has made better drivers and started
to contribute a little more in the Linux community so now I'm exited
and I want to be part of the change. So to no further talking about
me, I would like to ask about something in the testing area:

I'm installing Gnome Daily and when I get to the installer, it reports
that it finds a Network interface and tries to connect but I doesn't
work, if I use a stable release installer it works right away. How can
I test this things to report the bug and not sound like "Internet
doesn't work" person.

Hope to help,

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[Friendly Reminder 2] Mailing List and Code of Conduct

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Gentle Reminder!

Everyone on the mailing list must adhere to this - Thank you!

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

> Dear Subscribers of Ubuntu GNOME Mailing List,
>
> May I take few minutes from your time?
> Kindly have a read at:
>
> *Mailing List*
> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailing-lists
>
> and
>
> *Ubuntu Code of Conduct v2.0*
> http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct
>
>
> Ubuntu GNOME Team expect that everyone over here need to be aware of these
> two links and actually 'read' them :)
> So, if you haven't read yet, please do.
>
> Above all, this is a friendly family and nice team so our focus and
> priority to maintain such spirit all the way.
>
> Also, helpful and healthy communications are needed and required.
>
>
Not to mention, we are here, dedicating our time to help Ubuntu GNOME to be
better (nothing is perfect) as much as possible on *Voluntary Basis*!!!
We are helping willingly and we are not getting paid. Please, understand,
respect and appreciate that.



> Ubuntu Code of Conduct should also apply on our channels on Google+ and
> Facebook. I have noticed some unwanted and useless discussions the other
> day on Google+ Page and handled that. So, let's all work harder to achieve
> one goal, that is having the best system and the greatest community :)
>
> Thank you!
>
> Please, if you are in doubt, just ask, we don't bite :D
>


Now, I expect everyone is aware of this reminder that I have sent a month
ago and welcome to the new members of our mailing list :)

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Breaking the CoC [was: Re: Documenting PPA's online for the interested]

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Phil Wyett  wrote:

> On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 15:53 +0400, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Phil Wyett 
> > wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > There is much conversation about gnome3 PPA and next etc.
> > However the
> > site nor the wiki carry any lead documents for people to get
> > onboard and
> > test with or help with. Can this be corrected?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> > Hi Phil,
> >
> >
> > "Be the change you want to see around" :D I do believe in this :)
> >
>
> Nice quote that was not in my email. Don't ever cross quote me!
>
> And the rest of your email deals with less than what the project is
> doing. If you are dealing with releases - document as is. For people to
> get involved with testing backport and up packages please split pages
> and and help people into the movement of ubuntu gnome.
>
> Ok. I will help in this work, but there is way too much internal
> reference without docs that makes people feel like outsiders and scared
> to come into the group. QA on this project is rubbish and obviously
> handled by someone without industry experience.
>
> Regards
>
> Phil
>

Hi Phil,

May I ask you to please read this:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs#Mailing_List

Code of Conduct

The Ubuntu Code of Conduct governs all interaction within the Ubuntu
community. Because mailing lists form an integral part of that interaction,
it is especially important to bear the Code of Conduct in mind at all
times. Mailing list users should read the Code of Conduct in
full,
and if possible, should digitally sign a copy
.

Fundamental aspects of the Code of Conduct relevant to mailing lists
include:

   - Be considerate
   - Be respectful
   - Be collaborative
   - When you disagree, consult others
   - When you are unsure, ask for help
   - Step down considerately
   - Avoid flamewars, trolling, personal attacks, and repetitive arguments


While your intentions seem good, your attitude is not appreciated so I am
asking you kindly to watch your language :)

And, if you think something is wrong, I'd be very interested if you could
correct it or find someone who might be able to ;)

Disagree but DO NOT disrespect.
This is a friendly reminder!

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Re: Documenting PPA's online for the interested

[Phil Wyett]

On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 15:53 +0400, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Phil Wyett 
> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> There is much conversation about gnome3 PPA and next etc.
> However the
> site nor the wiki carry any lead documents for people to get
> onboard and
> test with or help with. Can this be corrected?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> Hi Phil,
> 
> 
> "Be the change you want to see around" :D I do believe in this :)
> 

Nice quote that was not in my email. Don't ever cross quote me!

And the rest of your email deals with less than what the project is
doing. If you are dealing with releases - document as is. For people to
get involved with testing backport and up packages please split pages
and and help people into the movement of ubuntu gnome.

Ok. I will help in this work, but there is way too much internal
reference without docs that makes people feel like outsiders and scared
to come into the group. QA on this project is rubbish and obviously
handled by someone without industry experience.

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Re: Documenting PPA's online for the interested

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Phil Wyett  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> There is much conversation about gnome3 PPA and next etc. However the
> site nor the wiki carry any lead documents for people to get onboard and
> test with or help with. Can this be corrected?
>
> Regards
>
> Phil


Hi Phil,

"Be the change you want to see around" :D I do believe in this :)

I have built a Wiki Area from Scratch. Now, it is time for the Community to
Step in and HELP to maintain such area. Having that said, please feel free
to make the necessary changes here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/#PPA

I am working on something very important right now and have no time for
this, sorry.

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Unable to hide the menu bar in gnome-terminal 3.10

[Fran Dieguez]

Hi,

I've just reported the bug in launchpad.net

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1231347

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Documenting PPA's online for the interested

[Phil Wyett]

Hi all,

There is much conversation about gnome3 PPA and next etc. However the
site nor the wiki carry any lead documents for people to get onboard and
test with or help with. Can this be corrected?

Regards

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Re: Issue with Next/Stagning ppa

[Tim]

  
  
Its not a strict dependency and will mostly work without it, however
if you are not using staging then its probably best to add gnome3
ppa to ensure you get gnome-control-center 3.8

Tim

On 26/09/13 19:21, HadiM wrote:


  I think an answer from Tim will be nice to clarify
the point but I'm pretty sure gnome3 ppa is required because
some packages are needed for next ppa. If it's working smoothly
for you without gnome3 ppa, I may be wrong...
  

  --
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On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:18 AM,
  Romuald TISSERAND  wrote:
  

  

  

  Ok.

Regarding the ppas, your message is not in the
same line as Tim previously wrote. When the Next
ppa was created, the message sent by Tim was:
  
  - gnome3 for 3.8

- next for 3.10
  
  - staging for unstable
  

And as Gnome 3.8 is the baseline of UG 13.10, I don't
really understand why we should add the Gnome3 ppa with
13.10. Could you please clarify?

  
  Thanks.


  

  
  On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:14
AM, HadiM 
wrote:

  If you use next ppa, don't forget
to also use gnome3 "normal" ppa. Some
applications are still with 3.8. UG developers
are working on it. You can look at staging ppa
to see what are the next applications coming
soon to next. For example, gnome tweak tool is
still in 3.8 but in 3.10 in staging so I guess
3.10 will come soon in next.
  

  --
  HadiM

  


On Thu, Sep 26,
  2013 at 11:08 AM, Romuald TISSERAND 
  wrote:
  

  
It helped a bit HadiM, thanks.
  I removed the 3 gnome3 ppas, and
  re-installed the
  ubuntu-gnome-desktop meta package.
  I'm back in 3.8.
  

I added the Gnome"-Next ppa. I
works, I'm now running Gnome-Shell
3.10.0.1, great!

  
  Last annoying point is applications
  are still in 3.8 (Nautilus and Gedit
  for instance), new version haven't
  been integrated into the Next ppa yet?
  

  


  

  
  On Thu,
Sep 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, HadiM 
wrote:

  First you
should not use ppa instead
you're able to fix problem
by yourself... Now if you
want to come back to normal
distribution without ppa.
You can use an app called
ppa-purge. You can install
it with sudo apt-get install
ppa-purge. Then to revert a
ppa, use this: sudo
ppa-purge

Re: Issue with Next/Stagning ppa

[HadiM]

I think an answer from Tim will be nice to clarify the point but I'm pretty
sure gnome3 ppa is required because some packages are needed for next ppa.
If it's working smoothly for you without gnome3 ppa, I may be wrong...


--
HadiM


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:

> Ok.
>
> Regarding the ppas, your message is not in the same line as Tim previously
> wrote. When the Next ppa was created, the message sent by Tim was:
> - gnome3 for 3.8
> - next for 3.10
> - staging for unstable
>
> And as Gnome 3.8 is the baseline of UG 13.10, I don't really understand
> why we should add the Gnome3 ppa with 13.10. Could you please clarify?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:14 AM, HadiM  wrote:
>
>> If you use next ppa, don't forget to also use gnome3 "normal" ppa. Some
>> applications are still with 3.8. UG developers are working on it. You can
>> look at staging ppa to see what are the next applications coming soon to
>> next. For example, gnome tweak tool is still in 3.8 but in 3.10 in staging
>> so I guess 3.10 will come soon in next.
>>
>>
>> --
>> HadiM
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Romuald TISSERAND > > wrote:
>>
>>> It helped a bit HadiM, thanks. I removed the 3 gnome3 ppas, and
>>> re-installed the ubuntu-gnome-desktop meta package. I'm back in 3.8.
>>>
>>> I added the Gnome"-Next ppa. I works, I'm now running Gnome-Shell
>>> 3.10.0.1, great!
>>>
>>> Last annoying point is applications are still in 3.8 (Nautilus and Gedit
>>> for instance), new version haven't been integrated into the Next ppa yet?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, HadiM  wrote:
>>>
 First you should not use ppa instead you're able to fix problem by
 yourself... Now if you want to come back to normal distribution without
 ppa. You can use an app called ppa-purge. You can install it with sudo
 apt-get install ppa-purge. Then to revert a ppa, use this: sudo
 ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging to remove staging ppa for example.

 In term of stability, I will strongly suggest you to only use gnome3
 and gnome3-next ppa. staging ppa should not be used by a normal user,
 except if you know exactly what you're doing.

 Hope it helps

 Bye


 --
 HadiM


 On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Romuald TISSERAND <
 rtisser...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> This doesn't change anything. Right now, I've the gnome3, gnome3-next
> and gnome3-staging ppa. update, then dist-upgrade say everything is up to
> date...but my Gnome Shell is gone. All I have is a terminal.
>
> Guys, it's pretty urgent to get back a fonctionnal computer. Something
> should have been removed from a ppa by mistake. Not a big deal, but any 
> fix
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> romu
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:12 PM, HadiM  wrote:
>
>> You need to add this ppa ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 in order to use next
>> ppa.
>>
>> @developers: you should add this tip to next ppa description.
>>
>>
>> --
>> HadiM
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Romuald TISSERAND <
>> rtisser...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using only the next ppa.
>>>
>>> Right now, if I do a dist-upgrade, gdm, gnome-shell and
>>> ubuntu-gnome-desktop are removed because of a non satisfied dependency 
>>> on
>>> Mutter.
>>>
>>> But stupid as I am, I typed Y instead of no. So now, I'm trying with
>>> the staging ppa...
>>>
>>> romu
>>>
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Re: Issue with Next/Stagning ppa

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Ok.

Regarding the ppas, your message is not in the same line as Tim previously
wrote. When the Next ppa was created, the message sent by Tim was:
- gnome3 for 3.8
- next for 3.10
- staging for unstable

And as Gnome 3.8 is the baseline of UG 13.10, I don't really understand why
we should add the Gnome3 ppa with 13.10. Could you please clarify?

Thanks.


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:14 AM, HadiM  wrote:

> If you use next ppa, don't forget to also use gnome3 "normal" ppa. Some
> applications are still with 3.8. UG developers are working on it. You can
> look at staging ppa to see what are the next applications coming soon to
> next. For example, gnome tweak tool is still in 3.8 but in 3.10 in staging
> so I guess 3.10 will come soon in next.
>
>
> --
> HadiM
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Romuald TISSERAND 
> wrote:
>
>> It helped a bit HadiM, thanks. I removed the 3 gnome3 ppas, and
>> re-installed the ubuntu-gnome-desktop meta package. I'm back in 3.8.
>>
>> I added the Gnome"-Next ppa. I works, I'm now running Gnome-Shell
>> 3.10.0.1, great!
>>
>> Last annoying point is applications are still in 3.8 (Nautilus and Gedit
>> for instance), new version haven't been integrated into the Next ppa yet?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, HadiM  wrote:
>>
>>> First you should not use ppa instead you're able to fix problem by
>>> yourself... Now if you want to come back to normal distribution without
>>> ppa. You can use an app called ppa-purge. You can install it with sudo
>>> apt-get install ppa-purge. Then to revert a ppa, use this: sudo
>>> ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging to remove staging ppa for example.
>>>
>>> In term of stability, I will strongly suggest you to only use gnome3 and
>>> gnome3-next ppa. staging ppa should not be used by a normal user, except if
>>> you know exactly what you're doing.
>>>
>>> Hope it helps
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> HadiM
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Romuald TISSERAND >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hi,
 This doesn't change anything. Right now, I've the gnome3, gnome3-next
 and gnome3-staging ppa. update, then dist-upgrade say everything is up to
 date...but my Gnome Shell is gone. All I have is a terminal.

 Guys, it's pretty urgent to get back a fonctionnal computer. Something
 should have been removed from a ppa by mistake. Not a big deal, but any fix
 would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks.

 romu


 On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:12 PM, HadiM  wrote:

> You need to add this ppa ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 in order to use next
> ppa.
>
> @developers: you should add this tip to next ppa description.
>
>
> --
> HadiM
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Romuald TISSERAND <
> rtisser...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm using only the next ppa.
>>
>> Right now, if I do a dist-upgrade, gdm, gnome-shell and
>> ubuntu-gnome-desktop are removed because of a non satisfied dependency on
>> Mutter.
>>
>> But stupid as I am, I typed Y instead of no. So now, I'm trying with
>> the staging ppa...
>>
>> romu
>>
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Re: Issue with Next/Stagning ppa

[HadiM]

If you use next ppa, don't forget to also use gnome3 "normal" ppa. Some
applications are still with 3.8. UG developers are working on it. You can
look at staging ppa to see what are the next applications coming soon to
next. For example, gnome tweak tool is still in 3.8 but in 3.10 in staging
so I guess 3.10 will come soon in next.


--
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On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:

> It helped a bit HadiM, thanks. I removed the 3 gnome3 ppas, and
> re-installed the ubuntu-gnome-desktop meta package. I'm back in 3.8.
>
> I added the Gnome"-Next ppa. I works, I'm now running Gnome-Shell
> 3.10.0.1, great!
>
> Last annoying point is applications are still in 3.8 (Nautilus and Gedit
> for instance), new version haven't been integrated into the Next ppa yet?
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, HadiM  wrote:
>
>> First you should not use ppa instead you're able to fix problem by
>> yourself... Now if you want to come back to normal distribution without
>> ppa. You can use an app called ppa-purge. You can install it with sudo
>> apt-get install ppa-purge. Then to revert a ppa, use this: sudo
>> ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging to remove staging ppa for example.
>>
>> In term of stability, I will strongly suggest you to only use gnome3 and
>> gnome3-next ppa. staging ppa should not be used by a normal user, except if
>> you know exactly what you're doing.
>>
>> Hope it helps
>>
>> Bye
>>
>>
>> --
>> HadiM
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Romuald TISSERAND 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> This doesn't change anything. Right now, I've the gnome3, gnome3-next
>>> and gnome3-staging ppa. update, then dist-upgrade say everything is up to
>>> date...but my Gnome Shell is gone. All I have is a terminal.
>>>
>>> Guys, it's pretty urgent to get back a fonctionnal computer. Something
>>> should have been removed from a ppa by mistake. Not a big deal, but any fix
>>> would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> romu
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:12 PM, HadiM  wrote:
>>>
 You need to add this ppa ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 in order to use next
 ppa.

 @developers: you should add this tip to next ppa description.


 --
 HadiM


 On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Romuald TISSERAND <
 rtisser...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm using only the next ppa.
>
> Right now, if I do a dist-upgrade, gdm, gnome-shell and
> ubuntu-gnome-desktop are removed because of a non satisfied dependency on
> Mutter.
>
> But stupid as I am, I typed Y instead of no. So now, I'm trying with
> the staging ppa...
>
> romu
>
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Re: Issue with Next/Stagning ppa

[Romuald TISSERAND]

It helped a bit HadiM, thanks. I removed the 3 gnome3 ppas, and
re-installed the ubuntu-gnome-desktop meta package. I'm back in 3.8.

I added the Gnome"-Next ppa. I works, I'm now running Gnome-Shell 3.10.0.1,
great!

Last annoying point is applications are still in 3.8 (Nautilus and Gedit
for instance), new version haven't been integrated into the Next ppa yet?




On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, HadiM  wrote:

> First you should not use ppa instead you're able to fix problem by
> yourself... Now if you want to come back to normal distribution without
> ppa. You can use an app called ppa-purge. You can install it with sudo
> apt-get install ppa-purge. Then to revert a ppa, use this: sudo
> ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging to remove staging ppa for example.
>
> In term of stability, I will strongly suggest you to only use gnome3 and
> gnome3-next ppa. staging ppa should not be used by a normal user, except if
> you know exactly what you're doing.
>
> Hope it helps
>
> Bye
>
>
> --
> HadiM
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Romuald TISSERAND 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> This doesn't change anything. Right now, I've the gnome3, gnome3-next and
>> gnome3-staging ppa. update, then dist-upgrade say everything is up to
>> date...but my Gnome Shell is gone. All I have is a terminal.
>>
>> Guys, it's pretty urgent to get back a fonctionnal computer. Something
>> should have been removed from a ppa by mistake. Not a big deal, but any fix
>> would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> romu
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:12 PM, HadiM  wrote:
>>
>>> You need to add this ppa ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 in order to use next ppa.
>>>
>>> @developers: you should add this tip to next ppa description.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> HadiM
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Romuald TISSERAND <
>>> rtisser...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I'm using only the next ppa.

 Right now, if I do a dist-upgrade, gdm, gnome-shell and
 ubuntu-gnome-desktop are removed because of a non satisfied dependency on
 Mutter.

 But stupid as I am, I typed Y instead of no. So now, I'm trying with
 the staging ppa...

 romu

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Re: Issue with Next/Stagning ppa

[HadiM]

First you should not use ppa instead you're able to fix problem by
yourself... Now if you want to come back to normal distribution without
ppa. You can use an app called ppa-purge. You can install it with sudo
apt-get install ppa-purge. Then to revert a ppa, use this: sudo
ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging to remove staging ppa for example.

In term of stability, I will strongly suggest you to only use gnome3 and
gnome3-next ppa. staging ppa should not be used by a normal user, except if
you know exactly what you're doing.

Hope it helps

Bye


--
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On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:

> Hi,
> This doesn't change anything. Right now, I've the gnome3, gnome3-next and
> gnome3-staging ppa. update, then dist-upgrade say everything is up to
> date...but my Gnome Shell is gone. All I have is a terminal.
>
> Guys, it's pretty urgent to get back a fonctionnal computer. Something
> should have been removed from a ppa by mistake. Not a big deal, but any fix
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> romu
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:12 PM, HadiM  wrote:
>
>> You need to add this ppa ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 in order to use next ppa.
>>
>> @developers: you should add this tip to next ppa description.
>>
>>
>> --
>> HadiM
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Romuald TISSERAND > > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using only the next ppa.
>>>
>>> Right now, if I do a dist-upgrade, gdm, gnome-shell and
>>> ubuntu-gnome-desktop are removed because of a non satisfied dependency on
>>> Mutter.
>>>
>>> But stupid as I am, I typed Y instead of no. So now, I'm trying with the
>>> staging ppa...
>>>
>>> romu
>>>
>>> --
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Re: Issue with Next/Stagning ppa

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Hi,
This doesn't change anything. Right now, I've the gnome3, gnome3-next and
gnome3-staging ppa. update, then dist-upgrade say everything is up to
date...but my Gnome Shell is gone. All I have is a terminal.

Guys, it's pretty urgent to get back a fonctionnal computer. Something
should have been removed from a ppa by mistake. Not a big deal, but any fix
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

romu


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:12 PM, HadiM  wrote:

> You need to add this ppa ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 in order to use next ppa.
>
> @developers: you should add this tip to next ppa description.
>
>
> --
> HadiM
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Romuald TISSERAND 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm using only the next ppa.
>>
>> Right now, if I do a dist-upgrade, gdm, gnome-shell and
>> ubuntu-gnome-desktop are removed because of a non satisfied dependency on
>> Mutter.
>>
>> But stupid as I am, I typed Y instead of no. So now, I'm trying with the
>> staging ppa...
>>
>> romu
>>
>> --
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