Re: Testing

[Erick Brunzell]

On 09/30/2013 06:05 PM, Joseph Godino wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-10-01 at 00:37 +0400, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Joseph Godino 
>> wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I just installed the September 20th daily build of Ubuntu
>> GNOME one my
>> PC. The installation was flawless up until the final phase
>> when I was
>> asked to restart my computer. Upon hitting the restart button
>> the screen
>> went black and after a few seconds the CD ejected. However at
>> this point
>> the screen remained black. I had to initiate a
>> control-alt-delete to
>> reboot the computer. The system ran without error after that.
>> 
>> I also installed the proprietary Nvidia drivers from the
>> Software
>> Center. I experienced no problems after doing that.
>> 
>> This looks like a GREAT release!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> Hi Joe,
>>
>>
>> Could you please give the latest daily build a go (fresh install) and
>> check if everything is fine?
>>
>> Thank you and much appreciated :)
>>
>> P.S.
>>
>> The restart after completion is a well-known issue, I mean the black
>> screen with no message to ask you to press enter to reboot. Isn't that
>> what you mean? 
> I get a prompt to reboot the machine but then the screen goes black, the
> CD ejects but that is it the computer does not reboot. I tried a fresh
> install with the September 28 daily build and got the same result. This
> time I had to power off the machine since control-alt-delete would not
> work. However, I have been running that build for a couple of days and I
> have not encountered any serious issues just some minor bugs. 
>
> I would like to continue testing but it will be difficult for me to do
> this on bare metal unless I can find another machine otherwise I would
> have to do it inside a virtualbox. Any suggestions.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joe
>

Correct. What should happen after selecting either restart or shutdown
is the screen should display a message saying something like, "Please
remove installation media, close tray if any, and press Enter". But the
screen is often just blank.

I find that this buggy behavior is more reliably reproduced if choosing
"install" from the main menu rather than booting to the live DE first.
Regardless all of the later bugs keep getting marked as a duplicate of:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/966480

It does effect Ubuntu and Lubuntu images as well as Ubuntu GNOME images.
That bug needs to be edited to reflect that it effects Saucy but I can't
figure out how to do that.

Lance

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Re: [Announcement] Ubuntu GNOME QA Team

[Manuel Cuadra]

Alright! let's make Ubuntu Gnome the best OS for everyone!
I get all exited just knowing that Gnome 3.12 will be ported to
wayland hehehe... can't wait and want to contribute as much as I can
to get there!
Let's do it TEAM!

Ali thank you for your time and leadership

2013/9/30 Ali Linx (amjjawad) :
> Hello Ubuntu GNOME Team,
>
> As per our monthly meeting [1], I have proposed many ideas and kind of
> roadmap for the near future of Ubuntu GNOME. The ideas/suggestions which
> apply to the topic of this email were:
>
> Recruit more members and mostly testers [2]
> Once we have enough number to form a sub-team or group, we start to create
> one for each area.
>
>
> I was trying to keep this until we release 13.10 but with unexpected amount
> of MANY NEW Members Joining Us and Offering their full help and support as
> an answer to the call of help [3][4], I find it difficult to wait :)
>
> Today, I'd like to announce that Ubuntu GNOME has a Sub-Team for Testing
> (QA/Quality) with initial of less than 10 members but I am sure we will
> reach around 15-20 even before releasing 13.10 (hopefully).
>
> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-qa
>
> The Sub-Teams Experience of Lubuntu [5] was and still successful and this
> experience inspired me and I do hope this will be so helpful for Ubuntu
> GNOME and Ubuntu Quality in general.
>
> Dear members of Ubuntu GNOME Team who are interested about the Testing Area
> [6] and those who have showed a great passion and helped a lot to report
> bugs, send feedback and shared their findings, etc and helped to have a real
> stable release even though we didn't yet release the final version but
> Ubuntu GNOME Saucy is doing so great. Please, send a request to join:
>
> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-qa
>
>
> @Ubuntu Quality Members
> If you are willing to help us and support us, please join Ubuntu GNOME QA
> Team and we will be very glad to get extra hands :)
>
> Thank you everyone!
>
> Time to have fun :)
>
> Ali/amjjawad
> QA Lead of Ubuntu GNOME
>
>
> [1] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Meetings/16092013
> [2] -
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2013-September/000728.html
> [3] - http://youtu.be/kG2Vum24iQc
> [4] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved
> [5] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams
> [6] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing
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Re: Testing

[Joseph Godino]

On Tue, 2013-10-01 at 00:37 +0400, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Joseph Godino 
> wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I just installed the September 20th daily build of Ubuntu
> GNOME one my
> PC. The installation was flawless up until the final phase
> when I was
> asked to restart my computer. Upon hitting the restart button
> the screen
> went black and after a few seconds the CD ejected. However at
> this point
> the screen remained black. I had to initiate a
> control-alt-delete to
> reboot the computer. The system ran without error after that.
> 
> I also installed the proprietary Nvidia drivers from the
> Software
> Center. I experienced no problems after doing that.
> 
> This looks like a GREAT release!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> 
> Could you please give the latest daily build a go (fresh install) and
> check if everything is fine?
> 
> Thank you and much appreciated :)
> 
> P.S.
> 
> The restart after completion is a well-known issue, I mean the black
> screen with no message to ask you to press enter to reboot. Isn't that
> what you mean? 

I get a prompt to reboot the machine but then the screen goes black, the
CD ejects but that is it the computer does not reboot. I tried a fresh
install with the September 28 daily build and got the same result. This
time I had to power off the machine since control-alt-delete would not
work. However, I have been running that build for a couple of days and I
have not encountered any serious issues just some minor bugs. 

I would like to continue testing but it will be difficult for me to do
this on bare metal unless I can find another machine otherwise I would
have to do it inside a virtualbox. Any suggestions.

Cheers,

Joe

> 
> 
> 
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> Best Regards,
> 
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> 
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> 
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[Announcement] Ubuntu GNOME QA Team

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Hello Ubuntu GNOME Team,

As per our monthly meeting [1], I have proposed many ideas and kind of
roadmap for the near future of Ubuntu GNOME. The ideas/suggestions which
apply to the topic of this email were:


   - Recruit more members and mostly testers [2]
   - Once we have enough number to form a sub-team or group, we start to
   create one for each area.


I was trying to keep this until we release 13.10 but with unexpected amount
of MANY NEW Members Joining Us and Offering their full help and support as
an answer to the call of help [3][4], I find it difficult to wait :)

Today, I'd like to announce that Ubuntu GNOME has a Sub-Team for Testing
(QA/Quality) with initial of less than 10 members but I am sure we will
reach around 15-20 even before releasing 13.10 (hopefully).

https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-qa

The Sub-Teams Experience of Lubuntu [5] was and still successful and this
experience inspired me and I do hope this will be so helpful for Ubuntu
GNOME and Ubuntu Quality in general.

*Dear members of Ubuntu GNOME Team* who are interested about the Testing
Area [6] and those who have showed a great passion and helped a lot to
report bugs, send feedback and shared their findings, etc and helped to
have a real stable release even though we didn't yet release the final
version but Ubuntu GNOME Saucy is doing so great. Please, send a request to
join:

*https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-qa*


@Ubuntu Quality Members
If you are willing to help us and support us, please join Ubuntu GNOME QA
Team and we will be very glad to get extra hands :)

Thank you everyone!

Time to have fun :)

Ali/amjjawad
QA Lead of Ubuntu GNOME


[1] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Meetings/16092013
[2] -
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2013-September/000728.html
[3] - http://youtu.be/kG2Vum24iQc
[4] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved
[5] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams
[6] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing
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Re: Startup disk creator still very buggy

[Manuel Cuadra]

>
> It's very very difficult to burn a USB key with this tool. I always get
> "Disk creation failed". Noway to get more, even by lauching the tool from a
> terminal.
>
> Any way to diagnose?

Do you get the same error with unetbooting?

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Re: Testing

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Joseph Godino  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I just installed the September 20th daily build of Ubuntu GNOME one my
> PC. The installation was flawless up until the final phase when I was
> asked to restart my computer. Upon hitting the restart button the screen
> went black and after a few seconds the CD ejected. However at this point
> the screen remained black. I had to initiate a control-alt-delete to
> reboot the computer. The system ran without error after that.
>
> I also installed the proprietary Nvidia drivers from the Software
> Center. I experienced no problems after doing that.
>
> This looks like a GREAT release!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joe


Hi Joe,

Could you please give the latest daily build a go (fresh install) and check
if everything is fine?

Thank you and much appreciated :)

P.S.
The restart after completion is a well-known issue, I mean the black screen
with no message to ask you to press enter to reboot. Isn't that what you
mean?


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Re: [TESTING] - 13.10 Beta 2 Builds are waiting for you

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Lance  wrote:

> I'm starting on the i386 tests now, but I never do the LVM/encryption test.
>
> I do try to mark "in progress" at the tracker if I'm working on it so
> please check the tracker before choosing your test(s) of choice.
>
> There are a couple of upstream ubiquity bugs:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1220165
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1194898
>
> Lance
>

Hi Lance,

Will have a look at these bugs. Sorry for the late reply!

Thank you!


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Re: [Testing] Printer app crashes when adding wireless printer

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:34 AM, JW  wrote:

> Hello  am new to bug reporting but this is from a fully updated ubuntu
> gnome 13.10 install. Printer app just quits after I add the printer
>

Hello,

Thank you for your reply and sorry for the late reply.

Could you please check with the latest daily build of today (30-09-2013)?

Thanks!

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Re: New member

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Christian Kirbach <
christian.kirb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Ahmed,
>
> welcome. It sounds like you want to contribute code to some GNOME
> applications.
> http://www.gnome.org/get-involved  is probably the best place for you to
> get started.


 Ahmed,

You need to tell us what exactly you are looking for so that we can help. I
just replied to your email. If you are interested to help Ubuntu GNOME,
then follow my email. If you would like to help GNOME, then please follow
Christian's Email :)

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Re: New member

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Ahmed Hussein
wrote:

> Greating,
> My name is Ahmed from Egypt.
> Iam good at C/C++ and python.
> I want to get involved at gnome development. Would u give me way or
> recommend me to some app to star with!?
>

Hi Ahmed,

Thank you so much for your email and for offering your help, this is so
nice and kind of you. We do need each and every help :)

Please, have a look at: http://youtu.be/kG2Vum24iQc

If you have any Q, please, don't hesitate to ask.

I am very sorry for the late reply and welcome email but I am so busy and I
have lots of unread emails that must be read and replied.

Thanks!
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved


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Re: TESTING

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Joseph Godino  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I just installed the Sept 26 daily build of Ubuntu-GNOME. I found that
> TexStudio crashes on startup. A bug report was submitted to Ubuntu.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joe


Hi,

Thank you for your email and so sorry for the late reply.

Could you please post the link of that bug here? don't forget to reply to
all :)

Thanks for testing and helping!

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Startup disk creator still very buggy

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Hi,
While trying to burn a USB key with a dailu UG image, I just can say the
Startup disk creator is almost as buggy as it already was in 13.04.

It's very very difficult to burn a USB key with this tool. I always get
"Disk creation failed". Noway to get more, even by lauching the tool from a
terminal.

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Re: Testdrive fails to boot Saucy Beta 2, CPU not PAE supported

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 8:06 AM, george fragos wrote:

> Sorry for returning,
>

NO need to be sorry, I am sorry for the late reply :(



> but I was deceived in collecting cpuinfo and posting in my messages:
> eventually, cat /proc/cpuinfo output includes the pae flag for my cpu!
> Then, why running the Beta 2 for Saucy under Testdrive-Virtualbox aborts
> with the same "pae feature not present" for the cpu...?What do I do
> wrong...?
>

Okay, can you please try with the latest daily build and report back? can
you try that on Real Hardware?
I don't use Testdrive to test but if there is an option to enable the PAE
flag inside that virtual machine, try to enable it. I sometimes use Oracle
VirtualBox but as always, I do prefer and like Real Hardware.

Thanks a lot :)

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Re: Ubiquity sequence wrong ordered

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:

> Hi,
> As I've installed UG 13.10 few times now, I see the Ubiquity sequence is
> not good at all. I've raised a bug report:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1231892
>
> Feel free to comment.
>
> romu
>

Hi,

I marked it as Opinion but that can be changed of course.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1231892/comments/1

Thank you!
Keep up the great work :)

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Re: Introduction

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:32 PM,  wrote:

> Good evening all,
>
> Good evening to you too, Marco :)

Thank you for your email :)
I am so sorry for the late reply but my inbox is FULL of emails and the
more I read and reply, the more they come.



> I am new to testing so please bear with me...
>

This is exactly what we are looking for. New to testing means the perfect
candidate to do tests :)


>
> I'm Marco van der Heide, 42 years young, from the Netherlands. For 19
> years I've been working in the IT, for almost 18 years I've been working
> with Unix and later Linux. Lately my field of work has shifted to the
> Microsoft platform (Windows, MS SQL, Visual Studio, etc), but my passion
> really goes out to Linux.
>

Passion is what we are looking for to build an empire we call it Ubuntu
GNOME. You have come to the right place ;)
Passion to Linux is what we share over here. You are not alone ;)


>
> Together with my son I play a lot of games on Steam (thanks Valve!). You
> can find us there as "vdheide.net".
>

Nice!
I wish I have some time for that :(



> And today I read the announcement of Ali Linx about the need for extra
> hands on testing. So here I am trying to give something back to a really
> good product which I've been using for so long now... At home I started
> using Ubuntu GNOME as soon as it came out. (I really like Ubuntu, but I'm
> not really a Unity fan).
>

Thank you so much for answering my call and thanks a million for being
here. Much appreciated. Welcome Home!



> So if I ask stupid questions, just think of me as the silly guy from the
> Netherlands ...
>

There is NO such thing as a stupid nor silly question. The only
stupid/silly Qs are those which never been asked. So, PLEASE, don't ask if
you want to ask, just ask and trust me, we are a lovely family over here
and so friendly. I am sure you will love it :)


>
> Hope to see you all,
> Marco
>

Nice to meet you, Marco :)


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Re: HOWTO Get Involved with Ubuntu GNOME

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Fran Dieguez wrote:

>
> Thanks for the video Ali,
>

You are most welcome :)


>
> I've requested to join the Ubuntu GNOME QA Team as I'm very interested in
> test and report bugs in the latest GNOME release.
>

Thank you so much for that, much appreciated and we do need someone like
you with us :)



> On the other hand, as I'm already the official coordinator of the GNOME
> Galician translators team 
> (https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/**gl/)
> for more than 5 years, and given my experience, it will not take a lot of
> effort to take care of all the translation workflow.
>

This means, we have Multi-Skills and Experience Member :D


>
> Previously I have said that I will help in the development team because I
> have some interest in it, but I'm afraid of not having enougth time to put
> on development. Anyway, I will try to submit patches, and help in that area
> whenever I have time to do it.
>

Whenever you have time, that is the point. We are not required to kill
ourselves, we are doing all this because we love it and we'd like to make
Ubuntu GNOME better so no worries, if you can really help with QA and
Translations, that would be SUPER GREAT!


>
> I really want to push forward the Ubuntu GNOME as it combines two good
> products (Ubuntu and GNOME) and that both projects forms the perfect
> desktop environment.
>
> Regards
>

Then, guess we have someone so motivated and interested to go the extra
miles. THANKS for that and we are glad to have you with us!


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Re: HOWTO Get Involved with Ubuntu GNOME

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Manuel Cuadra  wrote:

> Thank you for the Video, it actually helped me focus on what to help,
>

Hello and thanks for your nice words, I am glad that video/guide was
helpful :)


> I guess my strongest way to contribute it's the amount of test
> machines that I have, so I will focus more on the Testing sections,
>

Each and every contribution is more than welcome and needed :D
Members/Users are free to join the area that they do like the most.



> I'm updateting my Machine specs on the Hardware wiki so I can be more
> serious in the QA testings.
>

I guess you mean the Hardware Link in:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam#Joining
Right?



>
> I didn't find much to do on the translation Team because there are a
> lot of Spanish speaking members.
>

No worries :)



>
> If there's anything specific you would like for me to try, just mail me.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Manuel
>

For now, we are building the teams and recruiting. Once 13.10 is released,
I will send the Plan for Ubuntu GNOME Sub-Teams but first, we need to
recruit more :)

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Re: [Translation] Wiki Page and Activities

[Alfredo Hernández]

Oh, I see. That makes sense for our project.

Cheers.
On 30 Sep 2013 18:54, "Ali Linx (amjjawad)"  wrote:

>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Alfredo Hernández <
> aldomann.desi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm in charge of two Translators teams in elementary OS (and I also
>> collaborate in another one) , I would be grateful to help,
>>
> That is good to know someone else is willing to help :)
> Much appreciated.
>
>
>> but as Fran said, I don't see the need of translation teams.
>>
> As I stated on my previous email. I will NOT create any team for
> Translation. Even though we have enough manpower.
>
>
>
>>  The wiki area should just give some information about the GNOME
>> translation process (both in l10n.gnome and in Launchpad via the Ubuntu
>> Translators teams).
>>
> This is what I explained already :)
>
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Fwd: Saucy 13.10 Beta2 Testing Report

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Hi Team,
Please read this:

-- Forwarded message --
From: Paul Larson 
Date: Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 2:05 AM
Subject: Saucy 13.10 Beta2 Testing Report
To: ubuntu-rele...@lists.ubuntu.com, ubuntu-qual...@lists.ubuntu.com


The testing report for Saucy 13.10 Beta2 has been published to
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/SaucyBeta2TestingReport

Thanks a lot to all those who participated in testing this release. We have
only a couple of weeks before the RC milestone lands, then the final
testing shortly after. Watch for those milestones to start appearing on the
iso tracker [1], and please contribute to the testing of them if you have a
bit of spare time.

Thanks,
Paul Larson

[1] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/


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Re: No more multimedias keys on Dell XPS13

[Romuald TISSERAND]

Ok I'll do with a live USB key.

I think this is probably the same kind of issue which has turned the power
switch undetected. I'll try asap and let you know.

romu


On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Romuald TISSERAND 
> wrote:
>
>> 13.10 Beta 1 (fresh install) + Gnome 3 Next only for me, 64-bit and daily
>> updates.
>>
>> Just updated right now, and nothing fixed.
>>
>>
> I think you are talking about an installed system while as part of our
> testing and to go the extra miles, I'd appreciate if you could try that wit
> the latest daily build with fresh new install.
>
> The most important part of testing is to test the installation and then
> check the system after being installed. While your issue is more about the
> system after installing it, which I understand but for the sake of helping,
> I am asking to try to install again using the daily build.
> In fact, you can go for: Try Ubuntu GNOME without installation and check
> whether this issue is happening or not.
>
> If this is too much to ask at the moment, and since you updated the system
> and the problem is still there, I guess we can report a bug BUT to be in
> the safe side and double check before filing a bug, Try Ubuntu GNOME
> without installation will do the trick.
>
> By the way, I am not affected with this. I am testing Ubuntu GNOME Saucy
> on my main machine (which is not for testing - sigh) : Lenovo G570 Core i5
> 2nd generation and 4GB RAM. Tested Beta 2 amd64 and will also try the
> latest daily soon :)
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
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Re: No more multimedias keys on Dell XPS13

[Fran Dieguez]

On lun 30 sep 2013 19:25:50 CEST, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:



On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Romuald TISSERAND
mailto:rtisser...@gmail.com>> wrote:

13.10 Beta 1 (fresh install) + Gnome 3 Next only for me, 64-bit
and daily updates.

Just updated right now, and nothing fixed.


I think you are talking about an installed system while as part of our
testing and to go the extra miles, I'd appreciate if you could try
that wit the latest daily build with fresh new install.

The most important part of testing is to test the installation and
then check the system after being installed. While your issue is more
about the system after installing it, which I understand but for the
sake of helping, I am asking to try to install again using the daily
build.
In fact, you can go for: Try Ubuntu GNOME without installation and
check whether this issue is happening or not.

If this is too much to ask at the moment, and since you updated the
system and the problem is still there, I guess we can report a bug BUT
to be in the safe side and double check before filing a bug, Try
Ubuntu GNOME without installation will do the trick.

By the way, I am not affected with this. I am testing Ubuntu GNOME
Saucy on my main machine (which is not for testing - sigh) : Lenovo
G570 Core i5 2nd generation and 4GB RAM. Tested Beta 2 amd64 and will
also try the latest daily soon :)

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Here my multimedia keys are working without problem (Macbook Pro 8,2). 
This is not the case with the brightness keyboard keys as I've already 
reported in a previous thread.


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Re: [Testing] Ubuntu Saucy + GNOME 3.10 + fglrx

[Fran Dieguez]

On lun 30 sep 2013 18:00:38 CEST, Christian Kirbach wrote:

Am Samstag, den 28.09.2013, 23:06 +0200 schrieb Fran Dieguez:

On sáb 28 sep 2013 23:03:38 CEST, Christian Kirbach wrote:

Am Samstag, den 28.09.2013, 17:22 +0200 schrieb Fran Dieguez:



desktop background does not always get rendered. As long as I am in the
activities overview it does render.



I think that the background issue doesn't have relation with the
graphic card driver as I'm experiencing it as well, and I'm using the
open source driver.


Confirming with the OS driver.
And this workaround works for me:
Type Alt+F2 and run "r". This reloads gnome-shell and the desktop
background is shown as expected.



In my machine the desktop background is shown without problem. But, 
sometimes while using Chrome the tab titles are not shown.


I've tested with fglrx beta2 but it doesn't boot. Hope AMD to release a 
new driver version that solves all this bugs.


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Re: [Testing] Low Resolution Install Problem

[Manuel Cuadra]

> Please, have a read at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam#Joining
> and please, list your machines on the table - see Hardware Link on that
> page.
>

I tried, but when I posted my specs it got deleted by someone I
did everything explained on the wiki.

>
>
> Being a 3 years tester for Ubuntu Communities, I do test each and every
> possible thing. "Try Ubuntu GNOME without Installation" is there for a
> reason and we need to cover each and everything ;)
>

I know, I did try the other ways, in fact I was able to Install it
anyways, I know how to handle my TAB key lol, also I did install it
with the live session because I can change the resolution there and
everything displays inside the monitor.


> Any Screenshot? or picture?
>
How can I take a screenshot?? or just use my camera?

Thank you for your reply,

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Re: No more multimedias keys on Dell XPS13

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:

> 13.10 Beta 1 (fresh install) + Gnome 3 Next only for me, 64-bit and daily
> updates.
>
> Just updated right now, and nothing fixed.
>
>
I think you are talking about an installed system while as part of our
testing and to go the extra miles, I'd appreciate if you could try that wit
the latest daily build with fresh new install.

The most important part of testing is to test the installation and then
check the system after being installed. While your issue is more about the
system after installing it, which I understand but for the sake of helping,
I am asking to try to install again using the daily build.
In fact, you can go for: Try Ubuntu GNOME without installation and check
whether this issue is happening or not.

If this is too much to ask at the moment, and since you updated the system
and the problem is still there, I guess we can report a bug BUT to be in
the safe side and double check before filing a bug, Try Ubuntu GNOME
without installation will do the trick.

By the way, I am not affected with this. I am testing Ubuntu GNOME Saucy on
my main machine (which is not for testing - sigh) : Lenovo G570 Core i5 2nd
generation and 4GB RAM. Tested Beta 2 amd64 and will also try the latest
daily soon :)

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Re: No more multimedias keys on Dell XPS13

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Manuel Cuadra  wrote:

> >
> > Can we try that on the latest daily (30-09-2013) ?
> >
>
> I will test the Daily ISO tomorrow in the morning.
>
>
> > On what version? i386? amd64?
> >
>
> The amd64 version, I will try i386 tomorrow morning.
>

That would be so nice of you, thanks a lot for helping :)

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Re: No more multimedias keys on Dell XPS13

[Romuald TISSERAND]

13.10 Beta 1 (fresh install) + Gnome 3 Next only for me, 64-bit and daily
updates.

Just updated right now, and nothing fixed.


On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Manuel Cuadra wrote:
>
>> >
>> > Just to make sure ALL of us are on the same page :D
>> >
>> > Are you guys testing with PPA installed? or without?
>> >
>> > Is this issue happening with the standard installation (without any
>> PPA)?
>> > or it happens after installing the PPA?
>> >
>>
>> This happens on Stock Beta 2 13.10
>
>
> Can we try that on the latest daily (30-09-2013) ?
>
> On what version? i386? amd64?
>
>
>
>> , and also updating with the PPA's
>> gnome3 and gnome3-next
>>
>
> Okay, so it is happening with and without the PPA. Thanks :)
>
>
>>
>> But it is fixed in gnome3-staging it's not passed to the gnome-next
>> yet, the problem seems to be related to the gnome-control-center
>> package
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>
> Thank you for your explanation - much appreciated :)
>
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Re: [Testing] Low Resolution Install Problem

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Manuel Cuadra  wrote:

> >
> > Okay, let me try to understand this clearly.
> >
> > Are you trying to Install the system?
>
>
> Yes! I've been doing QA Testings with three diferent machines that I have:
>
> 1. Quad Core Intel Abit IP35 Pro, Nvidia GTX260
> 2. Eeepc 1H
> 3. AMD Athlon X 2 with RADEON HD integrated
>

That is good to know :)
Please, have a read at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam#Joining
and please, list your machines on the table - see Hardware Link on that
page.


>
> >
> > Did you choose "Try Ubuntu GNOME without installation" OR you chose
> "Install
> > Ubuntu GNOME" Directly from the Boot Menu?
> >
>
> The QA Testing tells you to press "Install Gnome", not go into a live
> session, and that's the point because the first resolution it finds is
> 600x800 on one of my machines, and just because of that little extra
> height of the title bars on the windows it hides the buttons at the
> bottom.
>

Being a 3 years tester for Ubuntu Communities, I do test each and every
possible thing. "Try Ubuntu GNOME without Installation" is there for a
reason and we need to cover each and everything ;)

Any Screenshot? or picture?


 >>
> >>
> >> Should I file this as a bug??
> >
> >
> > Let's hold that until you reply :D
> >
> >>
> >> because there will be some people that
> >> will install this on low resolution screens like Netbooks, it almost
> >> seems like it needs at least 768 of height to display a complete
> >> window and be able to install without problems.
> >
> >
> > The Q is, not what kind of monitor a user may have, the real Q is what
> kind
> > of Hardware a user is using?
> > Let's keep in mind that Ubuntu GNOME is not for old machines and Notebook
> > with low hardware specifications? I'd be very very interested to know how
> > Ubuntu GNOME can perform on these machines :)
> >
> For the specs of my machines the oldest one is the eeepc 1000H and all
> the installs work perfectly there, because it finds the 1024x768
> resolution first.
>

Glad that your machine and similar machines can handle Ubuntu GNOME :)



> I know its the monitors fault, but the normal ubuntu install does not
> add the extra height on the windows so you can still see the buttons
> on the screen with low resolution.
>

As I asked, I'd appreciate to see a picture just for extra explanation and
to see how bad it is.

If this issue with Ubiquity, then it should affect all the other flavour -
someone corrects me please if I am wrong :)

I am sorry if I am not following 100%, that is because tons of emails. I
think I need to pause my mind for few mins between each email :D

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Re: [Translation] Wiki Page and Activities

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Alfredo Hernández <
aldomann.desi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm in charge of two Translators teams in elementary OS (and I also
> collaborate in another one) , I would be grateful to help,
>
That is good to know someone else is willing to help :)
Much appreciated.


> but as Fran said, I don't see the need of translation teams.
>
As I stated on my previous email. I will NOT create any team for
Translation. Even though we have enough manpower.



> The wiki area should just give some information about the GNOME
> translation process (both in l10n.gnome and in Launchpad via the Ubuntu
> Translators teams).
>
This is what I explained already :)


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Re: No more multimedias keys on Dell XPS13

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Manuel Cuadra  wrote:

> >
> > Just to make sure ALL of us are on the same page :D
> >
> > Are you guys testing with PPA installed? or without?
> >
> > Is this issue happening with the standard installation (without any PPA)?
> > or it happens after installing the PPA?
> >
>
> This happens on Stock Beta 2 13.10


Can we try that on the latest daily (30-09-2013) ?

On what version? i386? amd64?



> , and also updating with the PPA's
> gnome3 and gnome3-next
>

Okay, so it is happening with and without the PPA. Thanks :)


>
> But it is fixed in gnome3-staging it's not passed to the gnome-next
> yet, the problem seems to be related to the gnome-control-center
> package
>
> Hope this helps.
>

Thank you for your explanation - much appreciated :)


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Re: [Testing] Changing hostname with Control Center

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Anton Sudak  wrote:

> Hello All,
> I noticed that fields with hostname in GNOME Control Center are
> inactive. Searching why they are inactive brought me to the Debian
> bugtracker where I found that it is because policitykit deny Control
> Center to change hostname. The rule that allowing to change hostname is
> already present in Debian package. Maybe, it is necessary to copy it
> into Ubuntu package.
>
> Debian bugreport http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=693071
>
> This problem affects GNOME 3.8, 3.10 in Saucy and 3.8 in Raring.
>
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> Anton Sudak


Hello Anton,

Thank you so much for testing and reporting, much appreciated. Please, keep
it up :)

@Tim:
Your opinion/suggestion is highly appreciated :)

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Re: No more multimedias keys on Dell XPS13

[Manuel Cuadra]

>
> Just to make sure ALL of us are on the same page :D
>
> Are you guys testing with PPA installed? or without?
>
> Is this issue happening with the standard installation (without any PPA)?
> or it happens after installing the PPA?
>

This happens on Stock Beta 2 13.10, and also updating with the PPA's
gnome3 and gnome3-next

But it is fixed in gnome3-staging it's not passed to the gnome-next
yet, the problem seems to be related to the gnome-control-center
package

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Re: No more multimedias keys on Dell XPS13

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Manuel Cuadra  wrote:

> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm sure this was operating on the Beta 1 + Gnome 3.8. I can't say if it
> > comes from Gnome 3.10 or just from recent updates, but on my Dell XPS13,
> the
> > multimedias almost don't work anymore.
> >
> > - Sound keys don't work at all
> > - Almost because keyboard and screen backlight work, but...read below
> > - The screen backlight slider in 3.10 system menu doesn't work
> > - There is no widget displayed when I activate some of these keys
> >
>
> @romu: Happened the same thing to me, it is broken in Beta 2  13.10
> I've actually added the gnome3-next and gnome3-staging PPA and it
> fixed it, but other things get broken, so it's going to get fixed in
> the next gnome3-next update, so it's not your fault, you have to be
> patient for the update.
>
> Good job testing!
>
> Manuel
>

Just to make sure ALL of us are on the same page :D

Are you guys testing with PPA installed? or without?

Is this issue happening with the standard installation (without any PPA)?
or it happens after installing the PPA?

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Re: No more multimedias keys on Dell XPS13

[Manuel Cuadra]

>
> Hi,
> I'm sure this was operating on the Beta 1 + Gnome 3.8. I can't say if it
> comes from Gnome 3.10 or just from recent updates, but on my Dell XPS13, the
> multimedias almost don't work anymore.
>
> - Sound keys don't work at all
> - Almost because keyboard and screen backlight work, but...read below
> - The screen backlight slider in 3.10 system menu doesn't work
> - There is no widget displayed when I activate some of these keys
>

@romu: Happened the same thing to me, it is broken in Beta 2  13.10
I've actually added the gnome3-next and gnome3-staging PPA and it
fixed it, but other things get broken, so it's going to get fixed in
the next gnome3-next update, so it's not your fault, you have to be
patient for the update.

Good job testing!

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Re: Install problems 13.10 beta2

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:29 PM,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I found that I have the same issue with the standard Ubuntu beta2 so I
> have filed a bug there in order to not take up your limited resources.
>
> The bug Id is 1232924
>
> Thanks
>

Hi,

Please make sure to send only one email not more than one for the same
topic and please, make sure to hit Reply to All not just me :D

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1232924

I have subscribed to this bug to get notifications in case any update will
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Re: No more multimedias keys on Dell XPS13

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Romuald TISSERAND wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm sure this was operating on the Beta 1 + Gnome 3.8. I can't say if it
> comes from Gnome 3.10 or just from recent updates, but on my Dell XPS13,
> the multimedias almost don't work anymore.
>
> - Sound keys don't work at all
> - Almost because keyboard and screen backlight work, but...read below
> - The screen backlight slider in 3.10 system menu doesn't work
> - There is no widget displayed when I activate some of these keys
>
>
> romu
>

Hi,

Thank you so much for your email and for testing, you are doing a great
job, please keep it up :D

Can you please test the Daily? 30-09-2013 is ready :)

Are you testing with and/or without the PPA?

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Re: Install problems 13.10 beta2

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Hello Felix,

Thank you for your email :)

On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Felix Oxley  wrote:

> Machine HP ML 115
> AMD Opteron 1352 Quad core 2.1 GHz
> 4GB RAM
> Disks: 1 x 160GB Sata as /boot /tmp swap /home and /
> 3x 250GB Sata in mdraid Raid5 array as /data
> Current OS: Ubuntu 12.10
>
> 1. Beta2 Cd only intermittently boots to installer (language selection)
> It seems that if I press Caps Lock a few times during the boot sequence it
> will manage to get to the installer screen)
>

What ISO are you testing? Beta 2? Daily?

What version? i386? amd64?

I think you mean DVD because the ISO is larger than 700MB.

Have you checked MD5SUM?

Are you sure your CD/DVD Drive works fine?

How did you create that LiveDVD?

Have you checked with LiveUSB?

You see, we need to know the answers of all the above Qs so that we can
help and find out what is going on :)
So please, whenever you send a testing email (result or ask for help) is to
cover all the above initial questions :D



>
> 2. Running CD integrity check never completes (>1 hour)
>

Which tells either it is bad ISO (MD5SUM need to be checked) OR bad burn
(make sure to burn at a low speed (8x for example) OR your CD/DVD Drive has
some issues. Best approach here to check MD5SUM and Burn at Low Speed and
even better is to use LiveUSB. LiveUSB much faster and more responsive.



> 3. Selecting Install or Test results in the following screen:
>
>  BusyBox v1.20.2 (Ubuntu 1:120.0-8.1ubuntu1) built-in shell (ash)
>  Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands
>
>  (initramfs)
>

There are different causes for this.



> N.B. Keyboard is non functional at this point
> (I have tried with acpi=off apicoff nodmraid)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Felix
>

Waiting for your reply :)

Thank you so much!


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[Reminder] Saucy Daily Build

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Hi Team,

Just a reminder, we are back to test the daily images so please, make sure
to download and/or zsync your ISO to the latest - more information:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing

As always, should you have any Q? please let me/us know :)

You are doing a great job and I am so glad that we do have more testers
now. Please, keep it up and thanks a lot for each and every contribution :)

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Re: [Testing] Nautilus Bugs

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Hashem Nasarat  wrote:

> The upstream (official) nautilus bug tracker is
>
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=nautilus&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED
>
> The "file new bug" link is on the bottom of the page.
>
>
Hi Hashem,

Thank you so much for your help :)

@Manuel: You are doing a great job, please keep it up :D

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Re: [Testing] Ubuntu Saucy + GNOME 3.10 + fglrx

[Christian Kirbach]

Am Samstag, den 28.09.2013, 23:06 +0200 schrieb Fran Dieguez:
> On sáb 28 sep 2013 23:03:38 CEST, Christian Kirbach wrote:
> > Am Samstag, den 28.09.2013, 17:22 +0200 schrieb Fran Dieguez:

> > desktop background does not always get rendered. As long as I am in the
> > activities overview it does render.

> I think that the background issue doesn't have relation with the 
> graphic card driver as I'm experiencing it as well, and I'm using the 
> open source driver.

Confirming with the OS driver.
And this workaround works for me:
Type Alt+F2 and run "r". This reloads gnome-shell and the desktop
background is shown as expected.

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Re: [Testing] Ubuntu Saucy + GNOME 3.10 + fglrx

[Christian Kirbach]

Am Montag, den 30.09.2013, 09:07 +0200 schrieb Fran Dieguez:
> On lun 30 sep 2013 02:47:13 CEST, Manuel Cuadra wrote:
> > Could you please tell how you did it?? I haven't been able to install
> > the driver for AMD cards.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> I finally managed to install the fglrx driver and now it's working
> >> perfectly.

Are you using the gnome3-testing PPA and do you see your desktop
background?


> My fault was trying to install the fglrx-updates package, according to 
> some forums this could not work for all.
> 
> sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx-updates fglrx-amdcccle-updates
> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic fglrx fglrx-amdcccle

Hmm I wonder what the difference between fglrx and fglrx-updates
packages is. Driver version and changelogs seem to match.
By the way this looks like AMD's 13.6beta driver to me, with
patches to support Linux kernel 3.11


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Re: [Testing] Nautilus Bugs

[Hashem Nasarat]

The upstream (official) nautilus bug tracker is
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=nautilus&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED

The "file new bug" link is on the bottom of the page.


On 09/30/2013 10:52 AM, Manuel Cuadra wrote:
> Hi, I've been testing all versions of Gnome3, that is 3.8 - 3.10
> Staging and in all of them when I do a connection via SSH I get the
> following Bugs:
>
> - Nautilus doesn't remember the Username and Pass for a server even
> when I press the "Remember Credential" check box
>
> - When I'm connected to the server I can browse without trouble, but
> if I press a letter to search it freezes without comeback, I have to
> force close and restart.
>
> Because neither of them generate a ubuntu-bug report, my question is,
> how should I report this?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Manuel
>


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[Testing] Nautilus Bugs

[Manuel Cuadra]

Hi, I've been testing all versions of Gnome3, that is 3.8 - 3.10
Staging and in all of them when I do a connection via SSH I get the
following Bugs:

- Nautilus doesn't remember the Username and Pass for a server even
when I press the "Remember Credential" check box

- When I'm connected to the server I can browse without trouble, but
if I press a letter to search it freezes without comeback, I have to
force close and restart.

Because neither of them generate a ubuntu-bug report, my question is,
how should I report this?

Best regards,

Manuel

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Re: [Testing] Ubuntu Saucy + GNOME 3.10 + fglrx

[Manuel Cuadra]

Fran, thank you very much, I will try this later with my AMD system.

2013/9/30 Fran Dieguez :
> On lun 30 sep 2013 02:47:13 CEST, Manuel Cuadra wrote:
>>
>> Could you please tell how you did it?? I haven't been able to install
>> the driver for AMD cards.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I finally managed to install the fglrx driver and now it's working
>>> perfectly.
>>>
>>> One less problem with this version...
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>
> My fault was trying to install the fglrx-updates package, according to some
> forums this could not work for all.
>
> sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx-updates fglrx-amdcccle-updates
> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic fglrx fglrx-amdcccle
> sudo aticonfig --initial
>
> after installation and reboot, you can check if it is working with:
>
> fglrxinfo

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Re: [Testing] Ubuntu Saucy + GNOME 3.10 + fglrx

[Fran Dieguez]

On lun 30 sep 2013 02:47:13 CEST, Manuel Cuadra wrote:

Could you please tell how you did it?? I haven't been able to install
the driver for AMD cards.




Hi there,

I finally managed to install the fglrx driver and now it's working
perfectly.

One less problem with this version...

Regards.



My fault was trying to install the fglrx-updates package, according to 
some forums this could not work for all.


sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx-updates fglrx-amdcccle-updates
sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic fglrx fglrx-amdcccle
sudo aticonfig --initial

after installation and reboot, you can check if it is working with:

fglrxinfo

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