Re: I have realised the problem here
(snip) > At any rate, it seems the workflow you describe is quite suited to > Gnome. > You could dedicate an entire desktop to a video editing task, and > when you > alt-tab within that desktop, you'd only be shown the windows > dedicated to > that task. If you want to switch to another task, you'd switch to > another > desktop (and if you're an emacs user like me, maybe bind super-n to > "move > to the desktop below"). > Hi, that would be great if that could work this way. But the problem is that, if you dedicate a workspace to each task, when you click on an application that you don't have opened on the current desktop but have opened on a different workspace (for a different task), gnome-shell moves you away from your current workspace instead of opening a new window of that application. And that breaks this paradigm. Too bad, really! > Although like I said, I don't know the context, so I might be missing > the > mark. > > Awjin > > On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella < > es204904...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > After talking with some GNOME users and developers I have realised > > there's > > a common misunderstanding. > > > > The goal of the GNOME Shell is to focus on one thing at a time, but > > normally when I have multiple windows or tabs opened all are > > related with > > the same task at hand. They are simply different stages of the same > > process. > > > > 0 -> 0 -> 0 -> 0 > > > > If I want for example produce multiple videos, having all those > > windows > > open eases me finishing one video at a time, since I can quickly > > change > > between stages. > > > > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-Minute_Exchange_of_Die) > > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_manufacturing) > > > > So here's the problem: you are confusing finishing things one by > > one with > > visiting the tools one by one. If you really care about focus you > > would > > want to make changes between tools as easy as possible. > > > > Thanks for your attention. > > > > > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > > Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > > mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome > > > > -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: 18.04: Ubuntu GNOME --> Ubuntu ?
Hi, I personnally love the fact that Ubuntu GNOME is almost the upstream GNOME, and not a custom version with lots of extensions and modifications. I really fear that Canonical will not settle on upstream GNOME, at all. So, in this case, we might still need Ubuntu GNOME. By the way, that might even be bad news for Ubuntu GNOME because when Canonical moved away from GNOME, they also stopped breaking GNOME, but they might go back to their bad habits, and it might become very hard to have a proper Ubuntu GNOME without their patches... I hope I'm wrong though. Le mercredi 05 avril 2017 à 15:24 -0400, Paul Smith a écrit : > So, does Mark Shuttleworth's latest announcement mean that as of Ubuntu > 18.04 there won't be a need for Ubuntu GNOME anymore, and it will just > be Ubuntu? > > Not suggesting anyone actually knows the answer to this, just posing > the question out into the universe... > > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/ > > -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Thanks to The Linux Foundation
Well, being cited in conspiration theories will be a great way to attract new users! :) Le lundi 07 décembre 2015 à 09:12 +0200, Usama Akkad a écrit : > I did not wanted to be the one who bring that but it seems like the > new logo has the sign of the Israeli currency ₪ > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shekel_sign > > I think it would be better to have less controversial logo. Though > that would not drive me away from using Ubuntu gnome :-) > > > > On 07-12-2015 00:34, Leo Francisco wrote: > > New logo is looking fab (perhaps it could even do with being > > bigger on the splash screen). > > > > Another good point, there's massive speed increases with 3.16. > > > > > > Glowing review even if there is loads of typos :) > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > On 06/12/15 09:16, Ali/amjjawad wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Just saw this: > > > https://www.facebook.com/TheLinuxFoundation/posts/101534454295535 > > > 47 > > > > > > Glad to see our name on the media ;) > > > > > > -- > > > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Ali/amjjawad > > > > > > http://kibo.computer - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome -- Julien Olivier -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Google account disconnections
Hi Patrik, this sounds like this bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728496 Cheers! Le dimanche 20 septembre 2015 à 14:30 -0400, Patrik Bubák a écrit : > From time to time I get a prompt to log back in to my Google account - > just like that - without doing anything. > > > > Can that be anyhow related to me removing Empathy packages with sudo > apt purge empathy* ? Three packages get removed: empathy, > empathy-common and mcp-account-manager-goa. > > > > Learn about how to protect yourself on the internet > > Why it is important to encrypt your communications > > An easy how-to guide to PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) > > > > Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call it > the Ice Cream Principle. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream with one > condition: they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is > going to be chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people don't > agree on what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to > agree on. > > > > > -- > Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Feedback Time
Yes, sorry, my explanation lacked an important detail: I reckon the GNOME developers wanted to use generic names for first-party apps only (and thus, for one and only one app for each task). Third party apps are still displayed using their real name. I might be wrong though, or GNOME developers might also have changed their strategy since the last time I checked... Le vendredi 26 juin 2015 à 16:04 +0200, Narcis Garcia a écrit : > I believe there is a middle point for this: > > "Gedit text editor" > "Nautilus file manager" > "Firefox web browser" > etc. > > If someone names simply "Web browser" to Epiphany, how is named > Firefox?? In a bad names strategy, user could see this in an > applications menu: > Web browser <- This is Firefox (you must know) > Web browser <- This is Mirori (you must know) > Web browser <- This is Icecat (you must know) > ...no sense. > > It's very difficult for casual (or new) users this other extreme in a > bad names strategy: > Sylpheed <- This is an e-mail software (you must know) > Evolution <- This is an e-mail software (you must know) > Geary <- This is an e-mail software (you must know) > > > El 26/06/15 a les 11:13, Julien Olivier ha escrit: > > Hi Bart, list, > > > > the thing with names is that it's better when they actually *mean* > > something. An experimented user will immediately know that Firefox is a > > web browser or that Evolution is an email program. But normal users will > > have no clue about it :) Some apps use names that provide clues as to > > what the purpose of the app is, like Rhythmbox or Gedit, but most don't. > > > > I think the recent trend among GNOME developers is that the app name is > > more like an internal code, not aimed at being used in the user experience. > > > > Maybe a good way to fix your problem would be to have a "Launch in > > terminal" entry in the app's dash icon, next to "New Window" and "Add to > > favourites", possibly as a GNOME Shell extension ? > > > > Le vendredi 26 juin 2015 à 10:25 +0200, Bart Schouten a écrit : > >> Quoting Narcis Garcia >> <mailto:informat...@actiu.net>>: > >> > >> > I agree with Keith Grider in a subject: "please name all programs in the > >> > UI the same as the cli (...) if you want to diagnose the problem, you > >> > need to grep all over the internet to find out what the program name is > >> > to be able to launch from the command line to see what errors are > >> > occurring" > >> > > >> > This problem is worse with localized UI. > >> > >> Yes. It makes no sense to name something "File Manager" instead of > >> "Nautilus" when Nautilus is a name you can love and a brand name. > >> Kubuntu (KDE) just puts a like subtitle next to the real name in the > >> menu to describe it. I don't think "File Manager" (or whatever) makes > >> much sense and you cannot love it. Only the most mediocre computer > >> users do not know what "file manager" or anything with a name is and > >> some of them don't even know what the button "web" is supposed to do > >> (in a kiosk computer). You can't really cater to them. Those users > >> can't use Linux anyway. People who have to learn how to use a mouse > >> and who cannot make double-clicks without moving the mouse too much > >> (it happens all too common). I don't think that should be your target > >> audience. A proficient computer user that cannot use a mouse and does > >> not know what a file manager icon is supposed to do -- they can never > >> use linux. They couldn't use Windows. You'd only give them a Mac, at > >> best. I feel it is catering to the lowest common denominator. > >> > >> Personally I think Gnome would be at least twice as good if they got > >> rid of those confusing names when there are good names for those > >> programs already. > >> > >> Just my opinion, as well. > >> > >> Bart. > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > El 25/06/15 a les 15:44, Keith Grider ha escrit: > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> I have been running Gnome desktop under Ubuntu since 11.04. I did not > >> >> like Unity and did not like the Gnome fallback. Tried Elementary OS for > >> >> a while and came back to Ubuntu Gnome bec
Re: Feedback Time
Hi Bart, list, the thing with names is that it's better when they actually *mean* something. An experimented user will immediately know that Firefox is a web browser or that Evolution is an email program. But normal users will have no clue about it :) Some apps use names that provide clues as to what the purpose of the app is, like Rhythmbox or Gedit, but most don't. I think the recent trend among GNOME developers is that the app name is more like an internal code, not aimed at being used in the user experience. Maybe a good way to fix your problem would be to have a "Launch in terminal" entry in the app's dash icon, next to "New Window" and "Add to favourites", possibly as a GNOME Shell extension ? Le vendredi 26 juin 2015 à 10:25 +0200, Bart Schouten a écrit : > Quoting Narcis Garcia : > > > I agree with Keith Grider in a subject: "please name all programs in the > > UI the same as the cli (...) if you want to diagnose the problem, you > > need to grep all over the internet to find out what the program name is > > to be able to launch from the command line to see what errors are occurring" > > > > This problem is worse with localized UI. > > Yes. It makes no sense to name something "File Manager" instead of > "Nautilus" when Nautilus is a name you can love and a brand name. > Kubuntu (KDE) just puts a like subtitle next to the real name in the > menu to describe it. I don't think "File Manager" (or whatever) makes > much sense and you cannot love it. Only the most mediocre computer > users do not know what "file manager" or anything with a name is and > some of them don't even know what the button "web" is supposed to do > (in a kiosk computer). You can't really cater to them. Those users > can't use Linux anyway. People who have to learn how to use a mouse > and who cannot make double-clicks without moving the mouse too much > (it happens all too common). I don't think that should be your target > audience. A proficient computer user that cannot use a mouse and does > not know what a file manager icon is supposed to do -- they can never > use linux. They couldn't use Windows. You'd only give them a Mac, at > best. I feel it is catering to the lowest common denominator. > > Personally I think Gnome would be at least twice as good if they got > rid of those confusing names when there are good names for those > programs already. > > Just my opinion, as well. > > Bart. > > > > > > > > > El 25/06/15 a les 15:44, Keith Grider ha escrit: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have been running Gnome desktop under Ubuntu since 11.04. I did not > >> like Unity and did not like the Gnome fallback. Tried Elementary OS for > >> a while and came back to Ubuntu Gnome because they are so slow to > >> release Freya. > >> > >> The new Gnome in 15.04 seems snappier and I like it. I could care less > >> about the cutting edge, latest Gnome, I just want it to run. I am in the > >> process of upgrading my computers from 14.04 to 15.04. 2 down and 2 to > >> go. There are some kernel improvements in 15.04 which help a couple > >> issues I was having with 14.04 (1 is that network manager is somewhat > >> broken in 14.04.2 The via_velocity module will not reconnect to the lan > >> after suspend and another is with wifi on my laptop.) > >> > >> Stuff that does not work or does not work 'correctly' in 15.04, IMO: > >> > >> 1. I can no longer unload a module at suspend time. I know this is a > >> kernel problem and not Gnome, but it is a problem for me. I used to > >> be able to do this with 13.04, but since 12.04, I can no longer get > >> it to unload the aic7xxx module before suspending. No matter what I > >> put in the |/etc/pm/config.d/modules, it will not unload. As soon as > >> I try to use that module, the kernel panics and locks up the > >> computer. It is an old card, but runs my scanner just fine. It used > >> to work correctly and now it only works after boot and crashes after > >> the first suspend resume cycle. I can do it by hand and can also > >> blacklist it so I cna load it when I need it, but it should be able > >> to be automated, this is a regression. > >> | > >> 2. ||The Gnome login screen needs a suspend time out. As it is, I have > >> my users set auto suspend after 30 minutes. It would be nice if I > >> could set that for The Gnome login screen as well via the Gnome UI > >> somehow. It has been this way for a while and it is a regression, IMO. > >> 3. The Gnome login screen does not have a suspend option. All I can do > >> is shut down or reboot from the login screen. > >> 4. The openjdk-*-jre install no longer has a .desktop file for right > >> clicking and launching *.jar files in Nautilus, it must be created > >> by hand to run these files. > >> 5. Please, please, please name all programs in the UI the same as the > >> cli... Please. It is tough to click and try to launch something in > >> the UI
Re: Someone Tries to Sell Ubuntu GNOME Linux OS on Craigslist for $30
Hi, Le lundi 22 juin 2015 à 08:51 +0200, Narcis Garcia a écrit : > I've made hunderds of Ubuntu/Lubuntu/UbuntuGnome installations > professionally, but I've never sold the software itself. > > The problem I see in the ad is the phrase, because it seems Ubuntu can > be sold itself. > Actually it can be sold, provided that you respect the GPL licence. For example, it would be perfectly legal to put Ubuntu CDs or DVDs in nice boxes with paper docs and sell them in stores or Amazon. > > El 22/06/15 a les 08:31, Andrés Muñiz Piniella ha escrit: > > > > > > El 22 de junio de 2015 07:18:30 GMT+01:00, Ali/amjjawad > > escribió: > >> Hi, > >> > >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Andres > >> wrote: > >> > >>> El Mon, 22-06-2015 a las 10:35 +0530, Satyajit Sahoo escribió: > But isn't it completely legal? > >>> > >>> Not only legal as far as I know ethical according to the fsf as Free > >>> software is Free as in freedom and not price (not free beer). > >>> > >>> > >> http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/licensing > >> > >> > >>> This person could actually be doing a public service? What if your > >>> download speeds are too low or too expensive? > >>> > >>> > >> For nearly a year, I've been converting people to GNU/Linux left and > >> right > >> and I did that 'not' for free, but for money. However, before I do > >> anything, I have informed the user/client that I'm charging for the > >> service, NOT the software itself. Usually, my services were involving > >> much > >> more of just installation. I had to do other things beside > >> installation. > >> > >> All that led me to think about it deeply .. why not expand that and > >> make my > >> living instead of spending my entire life updating my CV and beg for a > >> job? > >> > >> So, Kibo was born: > >> http://kibo.computer/ > >> > >> And, I just got my first client the other day. I managed to convert the > >> lady from Windows 7 that couldn't even boot in to Xubuntu 14.04 LTS and > >> all > >> that happened ONLINE .. I did not touch anything .. I was giving > >> instructions and she (the user) was doing it herself. > >> > >> My charges where for my time + efforts, NOT the software itself. > >> > >> > >> > >>> It is more likely that someone is trying to make a quick buck. > >> Hopefully > >>> not someone distributing a dodgy copy with malware. Then again, when > >> was > >>> the last time normal people do the checksums? > >>> > >>> Some years ago someone was selling CDs of ubuntu in amazon or ebay. > >>> Since canonical stopped providing CDs they were actually providing a > >>> service. > >>> > >> > >> The reason I asked someone (thanks To Keith) to contact that person, is > >> to > >> find out what is going on? if you go back to my original email, I > >> didn't > >> say anything :) I am not even upset, but so curious to understand what > >> is > >> going on :) so, let's hold our horses and wait for Keith ;) > >> > >> > >>> > >>> And wow. Softpedia looks like a horrible website. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> That's your own personal opinion. I'd ask you nicely and politely not > >> to > >> get into this kind of topics here :) > >> > >> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> http://richmondmakerlabs.uk > >>> http://www.coderdojoham.org/ > >>> http://www.hamunitedgroup.org.uk/ > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > >>> Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com > >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome > >>> > >> > >> Thank you for your reply :) > >> > >> All what we need to do now is wait for Keith's feedback :) > > > > > > All valid points. I am sorry if the tone sounded horrible. > > > -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Why?!
Hey Fran, Ali asked everyone the question "May I know why? what is wrong or what is the problem?". I just answered it, from my point of view. I would never have complained if noone had asked me what was wrong with Ubuntu and volunteer testers. But Ali did ask, so it felt like my duty to reply. Sorry for all the people that do want to help. Cheers. Le lundi 20 octobre 2014 à 21:14 +0200, Fran Dieguez a écrit : > I've been filing bugs in launchpad as soon as they raised in my laptops. > > I don't thing that message getting annoyed about current contributors > will help the project or contributors. That only leads to put noise > between us. > > Try by sending reminders, or reaching more contributors. Just my thoughts. > > Regards > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Julien Olivier wrote: > > Hi Ali, > > > > I've been an Ubuntu (and now Ubuntu-GNOME) tester since the very > > beginning. I only test by using the unstable version and updating it > > every day. Whenever I find a bug, I report it immediately, and I've been > > doing so for years. However, I have noticed that, since around the > > beginning of the development of Unity, Ubuntu developers have started > > totally ignoring any GNOME-related bug. This is pretty depressing and > > there are tons of bugs on Launchpad where you can read comments from > > lots of people absolutely pissed off by the lack of interest from Ubuntu > > developers. I have now come to the conclusion that there is absolutely > > no hope of ever seeing Ubuntu developers fixing any GNOME-related bug in > > the future, and I encourage whoever is interested in GNOME to switch to > > Debian because Canonical employees have been pretty much boycotting > > GNOME for years now and this is not about to change. > > > > Voilà, I'm sorry if my post sounds bad, but it just reflects the current > > reality... > > > > PS: I'm still reporting bugs in Launchpad *and* GNOME's Bugzilla > > anyway... > > > > Le mardi 21 octobre 2014 à 02:24 +1100, Ali/amjjawad a écrit : > >> Hi, > >> > >> > >> I know we are all volunteers and none of us and I mean NONE are > >> working full-paid time on Ubuntu GNOME but seriously? you expect this > >> project to be successful and become rock solid, etc while there is > >> ONLY ONE testers who is using the ISO Tracker? > >> > >> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/325/builds > >> > >> > >> Seriously? > >> > >> May I know why? what is wrong or what is the problem? why only Lance > >> is testing? prove me wrong and show off your testing but from what I > >> can see, he is the only one ... > >> > >> > >> Myself and Tim are not full-time worker on this project and this fact > >> will remain as of now ... > >> > >> > >> WE are all volunteers and I mean WE .. ALL of us are smarter, better, > >> stronger, etc than anyone of us ... WE/ALL ... not I, you nor > >> anyone ... without "WE", we shall accomplish nothing. > >> > >> > >> Please DO NOT complain if you get a buggy release or less features > >> release or whatever you may get ... > >> > >> > >> Please, let's work side by side while we can. Real Life comes first, > >> ankno doubt but since we are a community, I expected to see more > >> contributions ... > >> > >> > >> Thank you! > >> > >> > >> P.S. > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing > >> > >> -- > >> Best Regards, > >> > >> amjjawad > >> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > >> > >> > >> > >> Ubuntu GNOME OneStopPage > >> > >> Join Ubuntu GNOME > >> > >> Test Ubuntu GNOME > >> > >> Contact Ubuntu GNOME > >> > >> Download Ubuntu GNOME > >> -- > >> Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > >> Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome > > > > > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > > Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Why?!
Hi Ali, I've been an Ubuntu (and now Ubuntu-GNOME) tester since the very beginning. I only test by using the unstable version and updating it every day. Whenever I find a bug, I report it immediately, and I've been doing so for years. However, I have noticed that, since around the beginning of the development of Unity, Ubuntu developers have started totally ignoring any GNOME-related bug. This is pretty depressing and there are tons of bugs on Launchpad where you can read comments from lots of people absolutely pissed off by the lack of interest from Ubuntu developers. I have now come to the conclusion that there is absolutely no hope of ever seeing Ubuntu developers fixing any GNOME-related bug in the future, and I encourage whoever is interested in GNOME to switch to Debian because Canonical employees have been pretty much boycotting GNOME for years now and this is not about to change. Voilà, I'm sorry if my post sounds bad, but it just reflects the current reality... PS: I'm still reporting bugs in Launchpad *and* GNOME's Bugzilla anyway... Le mardi 21 octobre 2014 à 02:24 +1100, Ali/amjjawad a écrit : > Hi, > > > I know we are all volunteers and none of us and I mean NONE are > working full-paid time on Ubuntu GNOME but seriously? you expect this > project to be successful and become rock solid, etc while there is > ONLY ONE testers who is using the ISO Tracker? > > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/325/builds > > > Seriously? > > May I know why? what is wrong or what is the problem? why only Lance > is testing? prove me wrong and show off your testing but from what I > can see, he is the only one ... > > > Myself and Tim are not full-time worker on this project and this fact > will remain as of now ... > > > WE are all volunteers and I mean WE .. ALL of us are smarter, better, > stronger, etc than anyone of us ... WE/ALL ... not I, you nor > anyone ... without "WE", we shall accomplish nothing. > > > Please DO NOT complain if you get a buggy release or less features > release or whatever you may get ... > > > Please, let's work side by side while we can. Real Life comes first, > ankno doubt but since we are a community, I expected to see more > contributions ... > > > Thank you! > > > P.S. > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing > > -- > Best Regards, > > amjjawad > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > > > > Ubuntu GNOME OneStopPage > > Join Ubuntu GNOME > > Test Ubuntu GNOME > > Contact Ubuntu GNOME > > Download Ubuntu GNOME > -- > Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Default fonts in GNOME 3
Hi,
I've just noticed that, on Utopic, the default fonts for the GNOME
desktop are "Cantarell" (window titles and interface),
"sans" (application) and Ubuntu Mono (fixed). Wouldn't it be more
logical to whether use only Ubuntu fonts or only GNOME fonts
("Cantarell", "sans" and "Monospace")?
I'd go for all GNOME fonts, personally.
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Re: GNOME-Shell keyboard layout bug
> > This is an absolute blocker (makes the keyboard unusable for non-english > > users after most reboots) and *needs* to be fixed before the next stable > > release. > > (I'm somewhat curious why I don't experience this after reboots.) > As you can read in the bug comments, the behaviour on boot is quite random. I know I have the bug from times to times, but not always. But, in fact, I hardly ever reboot my laptop... -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
GNOME-Shell keyboard layout bug
Hi everyone, as you've probably noticed, there is a very nasty bug in Ubuntu (and Ubuntu GNOME) that resets the keymap to english each time gnome-shell starts. This is due to a change in IBus default dconf values done by Canonical. I know you're supposed to post bug reports instead of complaining on mailing lists, but the fact is that the bug has already be reported, confirmed, duplicated, and... ignored, like about 95% of bugs only affecting GNOME :( Here's the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-keyboard/+bug/1240198 This is an absolute blocker (makes the keyboard unusable for non-english users after most reboots) and *needs* to be fixed before the next stable release. More over, the fix is an absolute no brainer: just change the dconf default setting back to its upstream value (set /desktop/ibus/general/use-system-keyboard-layout to true). I do believe in the Ubuntu GNOME project, but I don't really think Ubuntu developers care at all about GOME any more, so, if anyone else is interested in Ubuntu GNOME bugs, it's time to do something... Thanks! -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Wired network settings
Hi, this is indeed very different on stock Trusty (GNOME 3.10), as you can see on the attached screenshot. Le vendredi 25 avril 2014 à 11:21 +0200, Michael Flaig a écrit : > Hi, > > I'm using 3.12 so might be different on 3.10. > In Wired settings there is a "Add Profile ..." Button and above I have > my previous created profiles to choose from. > > On Fr, 2014-04-25 at 10:09 +0200, Julien Olivier wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I've just upgraded and I'm very glad with the final version. > > > > One thing though: with the new system menu, there is no way to select a > > wired network. I read on some forum that this is by design, and that > > wired network settings should be managed in the system settings. > > > > Well, the problem is that in the system settings, there is a very easy > > way to manage wireless networks, but for wired networks, the only thing > > you can do is edit the active network settings: no way to switch > > networks and no way to edit other networks. > > > > Is it a bug on my setup ? Or am I using the wrong tool to manage wired > > networks ? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Wired network settings
Hi all, I've just upgraded and I'm very glad with the final version. One thing though: with the new system menu, there is no way to select a wired network. I read on some forum that this is by design, and that wired network settings should be managed in the system settings. Well, the problem is that in the system settings, there is a very easy way to manage wireless networks, but for wired networks, the only thing you can do is edit the active network settings: no way to switch networks and no way to edit other networks. Is it a bug on my setup ? Or am I using the wrong tool to manage wired networks ? Thanks. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: GNOME Music, Weather and Maps
Hi, > > I agree that we should push GNOME core apps as much as > > possible, but we > > need to make sure first that they are ready. Else, it will > > only give a > > very bad impression and everybody's going to lose. By the > > way, this > > raises (again) the question of Epiphany (Web now) vs > > Firefox... > Firefox has a huge advantage in that it comes with free (to us) > security updates for the life of the release. That alone is probably > reason enough to stick with Firefox. > > Sorry, I'm not sure I understand you there. Do you mean that GNOME doesn't release security updates? Isn't that a problem for more than Epiphany then? And isn't there a way to fix it instead of just using another piece of software? -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: GNOME Music, Weather and Maps
I agree that we should push GNOME core apps as much as possible, but we need to make sure first that they are ready. Else, it will only give a very bad impression and everybody's going to lose. By the way, this raises (again) the question of Epiphany (Web now) vs Firefox... Le lundi 17 février 2014 à 17:52 +0100, Alfredo Hernández a écrit : > I'm not sure if it's the right moment to change to GNOME Music, but I > totally second your petition. We are pretty GNOME, for sure; that's > why we made this distro. > > Cheers. > > > On 17 February 2014 17:33, John Markh wrote: > I have noticed that gnome-weather, gnome-music and gnome-maps > are now (finally!) part of Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 official > repository. Should we include these applications by default? > > Moreover (the next question/discussion will be along the lines > of "are we more Gnome or more Ubuntu focused"), while > gnome-music is not as feature reach as Rhythmbox, should we > consider to make it a default music player leaving Rhythmbox > as an alternative (not installed by default)? It is stable, > lightweight, and has 98% functionality for a normal user. > > -- > Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome > > > -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Testing Gnome 3.10 in Ubuntu GNOME 13.10 (PPA).
Hi, > - Can't resize the Control Center window. Is that by design? > Yes, and this was always the case -> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723575 > - No "hibernate" and "standby" options when I click top left. Only > poweroff and restart is available. > Have you tried keeping ALT pressed before clicking? I read somewhere that it changed the available options. > Is there a way to reset Gnome Shell to default 3.10 so I can add all my > settings again making sure I do it the 3.10 way? > I haven't tried this, and don't know if it still works in 3.10, but I found that -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/56313/how-do-i-reset-gnome-to-the-defaults -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Ubuntu GNOME Volunteer
Oups, sorry, I totally misread the original post. Well, I have absolutely nothing against creating new themes then, of course! Sorry again Serge. Le lundi 04 novembre 2013 à 16:26 +0400, Ali Linx (amjjawad) a écrit : > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Julien Olivier > wrote: > Hi, > > this is not the first time that the idea of an original theme > is > proposed. In my humble opinion, the theme that should be used > in Ubuntu > GNOME should the default GNOME theme. After all, Ubuntu > GNOME's goal is > to deliver a near-upstream GNOME experience. More over, the > default > GNOME theme was created in order to provide a very > conservative default > that anyone is free to change but that should be as > uncontroversial as > possible. And I think Adwaita is the perfect theme for that. > That's why > I propose to stick with it and let upstream GNOME designers > decide > what's the best default theme for us. > > > Hi Julien, > > > Serge was NOT suggesting to replace the 'current default' theme at > all. He was simply suggesting to have 'additional' themes and I > totally support and agree with that suggestion :) > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2013-November/001104.html > > > Thank you! > > > -- > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > Best Regards, > > amjjawad > > Areas of Involvement > > My Projects > -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Ubuntu GNOME Volunteer
Hi, this is not the first time that the idea of an original theme is proposed. In my humble opinion, the theme that should be used in Ubuntu GNOME should the default GNOME theme. After all, Ubuntu GNOME's goal is to deliver a near-upstream GNOME experience. More over, the default GNOME theme was created in order to provide a very conservative default that anyone is free to change but that should be as uncontroversial as possible. And I think Adwaita is the perfect theme for that. That's why I propose to stick with it and let upstream GNOME designers decide what's the best default theme for us. Le lundi 04 novembre 2013 à 13:02 +0100, Serge Wagner a écrit : > Hi > > I am a theme designer - and i would like to propose my help > > I think it would be important that Ubuntu Gnome gets a more individual > design -it's own theme - that reflects the identity of gnome and the one > of ubuntu > > My actual 2 themes ORANGE (till now called Darkair) and BLO - both > created this year have been already donloaded >20.000 times on gnome-look > since -- new versions to be published this week > > I am not proposing that one of my 2 themes should be taken as default > theme - i am proposing the creation of a new theme that has not necessary > to be so different to the original theme as these 2 are (but - why not?) > > This ubuntu-gnome theme should include > - individual ubuntu-gnome backgrounds selected the same way ubuntu > backgrounds > - a gtk2/3 theme > - a metacity theme > - a gnome-shell theme > - probably a gnome-shell plugin for a better finetuning of the design - or > the automatic install of some existing plugins to get an even better > look (ex: remove the horizontal lines in System menu - see sshot7) > > Some links to screenshots of my actual work > > http://5.135.156.3/sshot01.jpg > http://5.135.156.3/sshot02.jpg > http://5.135.156.3/sshot03.jpg > http://5.135.156.3/sshot7.jpg - example of possible system menu > (mediaplayer plugin not completely aligned for the moment) > > Cheers, > > Serge > > > > > > > -- > Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: [Lubuntu-comms] People do not understand the desktop installer
Hi, the video idea is not so good for another reason: it would need to be dubbed in all supported languages, and that's not very practical. On ven., 2013-10-25 at 17:03 +0400, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Jack Ramsay wrote: > Dear all, > > In my opinion the pop-up is a great idea. Also, The youtube > video is a good idea but what if people don't have internet. I > also think that if we add a check-box to the pop-up so that > the user understands what they’re doing. That will cause them > to stop and read what is there. This may help with people > rushing through the installer. Please send feedback, ideas or > concerns. > > > Thanks, > > Jack > > > > Hi Jack, > > > If someone has NO Internet connection, then he/she would not be able > to 'download' the ISO to begin with and therefore, he/she will > obviously not be able to install anything to start with ;) > > > The video Link will NOT be included on the Installer - > http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/10/ubiquity-and-installing-ubuntu-and-its.html > > > > It should be included it 'before' the download Link. > > > I have done an example on our Website (Ubuntu GNOME Website) where it > is so clear that the Video Link is before the Download Link. > > > That is all :) > > > -- > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > Best Regards, > > amjjawad > > Areas of Involvement > > My Projects > -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: [FEEDBACK] Rating Ubuntu GNOME 13.10
Hi, a few weeks before the release, I tested it and reported what I considered as a release blocker: the network doesn't come back after resuming from suspend ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1184262 ). For laptop users, this is indeed a very critical bug! Now, the distribution is officially released and the bug is still there. And nothing seems to indicate that anyone really cares about this showstopper (apart from its victims of course). This kind of behaviour from Canonical is very frustrating because it is commonly thought that, by testing and reporting bugs, you help making better releases. But when you do this, find a critical bug and report it, and then see it totally ignored, you just don't want to help any more, sadly. I know all that is more Canonical's fault than the Ubuntu-GNOME team's fault, and so I still consider the Ubuntu GNOME project a great project. But I'm really not very confident any more in Canonical... Well, in conclusion, I will give a mere 4/10 mark to this release because, currently, it is almost unusable for most laptop users. But I want to stress again that this is more an Ubuntu issue than an Ubuntu GNOME issue. As for the work done on integrating GNOME in Ubuntu, I want to congratulate everyone and thank you for the great work! If it wasn't for this bug, I would have given a 9/10 mark (9 only, because of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1235933 ). On mar., 2013-10-22 at 16:42 +0400, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > Hi, > > > Ubuntu GNOME 13.10 has been released and no doubt you have upgraded > or installed it and started already to use it :) > > From 1-10, Please Rate Ubuntu GNOME 13.10 as per your own experience > by replying this Email with your rate :) > > Thank you for choosing and using Ubuntu GNOME :) > > > -- > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > Best Regards, > > amjjawad > > Areas of Involvement > > My Projects > -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Systemd
Hi list, are there any plans to switch from [upstart + canonical custom systemd-compatible services] to upstream systemd? I know stock Canonical is not interested in using systemd in stock Ubuntu over its home-made solution, but is there any reason why Ubuntu GNOME couldn't upload its own systemd packages into the main repository and use them instead if upstream? Would that break the compatibility with packages shared between Ubuntu desktop and Ubuntu GNOME desktop? Seeing how GNOME seems to depend more and more on the real systemd, I think that's something to think about... -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Test of Saucy Salamander
> The second one is quite disturbing: every time I suspend, then resume my > laptop, the network is disabled. The only way to get it back is to run > "sudo restart network-manager". This reminds me of an old bug I had > submitted a year or two ago, but I can't find it back. > Forget about this one, it's just been fixed by the latest network-manager update :) -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Test of Saucy Salamander
Hi list, I've just upgraded to Saucy today, and immediately noticed two things, and I'm not sure which package to report the bugs on, so I'm writing here first. The first bug is that Evolution is in English while my desktop is in French, and gnome-language-selector doesn't suggest any missing packages. The second one is quite disturbing: every time I suspend, then resume my laptop, the network is disabled. The only way to get it back is to run "sudo restart network-manager". This reminds me of an old bug I had submitted a year or two ago, but I can't find it back. Thanks for your interest! -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Empathy and online accounts
Le mardi 10 septembre 2013 à 07:53 +0100, Phil Wyett a écrit : > Hi all, > Hi Phil, > Is there work underway to address the empathy and all that GOA and UOA > mess that seems to be polluting Ubuntu Gnome? > It seems that (part of) the problem is being tackled upstream: http://blog.barisione.org/2013-09/empathy-chat-accounts-and-goa/ -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Hi everyone
Le mardi 06 août 2013 à 20:33 -0700, ovar Genaro Bibriesca a écrit : > hi im Genaro Bibriesca from mexico Hi Genaro, > , im using fedora xfce, im think Ubuntu gnome need a unique > identity , a little personalitation, like manjaro with the dark > theme , if offer only a pure gnome experience same as fedora or same > as install it from repos the distro never going to be atracctive . I don't really understand how the fact that its look isn't customized makes it less attractive? Do you choose your distribution based on the default look? I know I don't. The goal of this distribution is to offer the power and simplicity of Ubuntu (easy-to-install drivers, comprehensive Debian-based repositories etc...) but with the GNOME desktop instead of the Unity one. Customizing the look of the desktop is the user's duty, if he feels the need to. More over, when you customize the look, you make controversial choices. Look at the reaction of users after Ubuntu chose to base its theme on the dark, then orange, colors! This is exactly the kind of debate Ubuntu GNOME should absolutely avoid by sticking to the default as much as possible. This way, the debate is pushed to the GNOME devel forums :) -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: hi !
Le dimanche 04 août 2013 à 19:51 -0300, Anibal Ardid a écrit : > Why pure gnome experience ? Gnome pure = Fedora ... > > You can bring some beauty experience. > > > I talk about some little extensions, disabled but installed. It's only > an idea ;) > I think the point is that, when creating a distribution for everyone, you can't customize it so that it's perfect for everyone, because it won't be. Everyone has different expectations, and, thus, the default desktop should be as neutral as can be. That's why we should stick with the default GNOME experience, and make it easy for users to customize it. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: hi !
> > - better theme ... adwaita sucks, and nobody like big buttons in the > window border ... > Hi, please try not to be too definitive about other people's tastes... Adwaita happens to be my favourite GTK theme, and, mind you, I love bing buttons in the window border! And that doesn't mean that I expect everyone to share my opinion either. Just so you know... -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
