Re: Ubuntu Desktop's GNOME Shell extensions survey ending soon
Some of those are slightly useful. However, here are the couple of shell extensions I always install and could not live without: * Frippery Panel Favourites: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/4/panel-favorites/ * system-monitor: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/120/system-monitor/ At home I also installed an extension that puts the audio chooser into the main system menu so I can easily switch back and forth between my normal headphones and my mic'd headphones. But, I'm at work and I can't remember the name of that one. I also have a CSS file that squashes the menu bars etc. to be as small as possible instead of those horrible fat menus that GNOME's default theme uses :-/. With these changes I'm very happy with GNOME. On Mon, 2017-05-22 at 13:56 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > The Ubuntu Desktop Team is running a short survey about some popular > GNOME Shell extensions. > > My understanding is that the survey was intended to run for one week, > so today is about the last day to complete the survey if you haven't > already: > > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/ubuntu-desktop-gnome-extensions-survey-1710 > > Thanks, > Jeremy Bicha > -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Ubuntu GNOME 17.04 Released and What's Next
On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 09:21 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Please see today's announcement: > > https://ubuntugnome.org/ubuntu-gnome-17-04-released/ > > On behalf of the Ubuntu GNOME Team, I was really excited to read this: > For the first time in Ubuntu GNOME’s history, this release includes > the latest stable release of GNOME, 3.24. Awesome! But then my excitement turned sour when I read this from the release notes: > For stability, the Evolution stack is still at its GNOME 3.22 versions. Argh! I don't understand this outdated attitude towards Evolution. It's been many releases since this has been justifiable (I'd argue that the justification was always somewhat questionable but at least during the webkit migration there was an argument to be made). I use Evolution all day every day for all my mail including both home and work email, and in my opinion there are more bugs and issues with the previous version than the latest version, in almost every release these days. I hope that the Ubuntu / Ubuntu GNOME team will re-evaluate their attitudes WRT Evolution stability and begin treating it as a first-class citizen starting with Ubuntu 17.10. An "A" version sounds like a perfect time to make that change! Thanks for all your hard work on Ubuntu GNOME, and I'm looking forward to great things from the tighter integration going forward. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
18.04: Ubuntu GNOME --> Ubuntu ?
So, does Mark Shuttleworth's latest announcement mean that as of Ubuntu 18.04 there won't be a need for Ubuntu GNOME anymore, and it will just be Ubuntu? Not suggesting anyone actually knows the answer to this, just posing the question out into the universe... https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/ -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS reaches End of Life on April 28 2017
On Fri, 2017-03-24 at 14:07 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Thanks for your feedback. I think > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME#Support > is more clear now Yes much better, thank you! > While https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases is not clear, the individual > release pages do mention the support lifespan at the top of the page. True. Thanks for the pointers! -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS reaches End of Life on April 28 2017
On Fri, 2017-03-24 at 12:26 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Ubuntu GNOME announced its 14.04 LTS release on April 17, 2014. > Codenamed "Trusty Tahr", 14.04 was Ubuntu GNOME's first LTS release. > The Ubuntu GNOME team committed to supporting this version for three > years. That support period is now nearing its end and Ubuntu GNOME > 14.04 LTS will reach end of life on Friday, April 28th. Thanks Jeremy. Ubuntu supports LTS releases for 5 years, not 3, and their wiki page reflects that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases If Ubuntu GNOME has a different support cadence I think the statements on the Ubuntu GNOME website about this are misleading in some ways; for example: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME > Support > > * 3 years – see releases. "3 years" is clear, _but_ then there's a link to the Ubuntu Releases wiki page, which states 5 years. I couldn't find anything on the Ubuntu Releases wiki page related to the variants like Ubuntu GNOME so it seems like that page could be more misleading than helpful. Maybe Ubuntu GNOME should create its own Releases page, similar to the Ubuntu Releases page, except with correct EOL dates for Ubuntu GNOME...? Just an observation... Cheers! -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Updating Evolution for Yakkety (16.10)?
Is there any way we can get an updated set of packages for Evolution for 16.10? I see that Evo 3.22.2 is available for Zesty but we still have 3.22.1 for Yakkety. I've also looked at the GNOME 3 Staging PPA and there's nothing newer for Evolution there either. The 3.22.1 Evolution actually has a significant number of problems, in particular there's a very serious issue which prevents it from using Google Calendars most of the time: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=771547 There are other issues which are annoying as well, for example https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=771821 -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Latest update broke seahorse/gnome-keyring...?
On Tue, 2016-10-04 at 16:02 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Paul Smith > wrote: > > I then used C-A-F1 and logged in. Unfortunately I see the same > > behavior as before :(. > > I believe you have to log out of all sessions, console or not, before > logging in for the change to take effect. From my reading, it sounds > like you may have still been logged in on a virtual terminal. Aha! You're right. I'm too old-school: I'm not used to the console using the same session information as X. I just rebooted (since I was logged out anyway) and now everything is working again: I was able to re-add my gmail account using Online Accounts and I see it just fine in Evo. Excellent! -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Latest update broke seahorse/gnome-keyring...?
On Tue, 2016-10-04 at 15:09 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > > Hi all. I just updated my Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 system, which also has > > the GNOME Staging PPA installed, this morning and after rebooting I can > > no longer use GNOME keyring, so Evolution basically doesn't work for > > me. > > Try uninstalling dbus-user-session and log out of all sessions. Let > us know if that makes things work. Thanks for the response. I logged out, opened a console with C-A-F2, looked for any remaining processes that were run under my userid and killed them (except for the console of course). I then ran apt-get remove dbus-user-session and it removed just that package and nothing else, which is good (I guess). I then used C-A-F1 and logged in. Unfortunately I see the same behavior as before :(. Including below a more complete log of dbus-daemon from journalctl from the time it started after the above. Not sure if this is the right place to be looking. Oct 04 15:36:02 myhost org.ayatana.bamf[18224]: bamfdaemon start/running, process 18272 Oct 04 15:36:02 myhost org.a11y.Bus[18224]: Activating service name='org.a11y.atspi.Registry' Oct 04 15:36:02 myhost org.a11y.Bus[18224]: ** (process:18291): WARNING **: Failed to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files Oct 04 15:36:02 myhost org.a11y.Bus[18224]: Successfully activated service 'org.a11y.atspi.Registry' Oct 04 15:36:03 myhost org.gnome.ScreenSaver[18224]: ** (gnome-screensaver:18363): WARNING **: Couldn't get presence status: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files Oct 04 15:36:04 myhost org.gnome.ScreenSaver[18224]: ** Message: Lost the name, shutting down. Oct 04 15:36:04 myhost org.gnome.OnlineAccounts[18224]: goa-daemon-Message: goa-daemon version 3.20.3 starting Oct 04 15:36:04 myhost org.freedesktop.secrets[18224]: SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh Oct 04 15:36:04 myhost org.gtk.vfs.AfcVolumeMonitor[18224]: Volume monitor alive Oct 04 15:36:05 myhost org.gnome.Shell.CalendarServer[18224]: (gnome-shell-calendar-server:18405): ShellCalendarServer-CRITICAL **: create_client_for_source: assertion 'client == NULL' failed Oct 04 15:36:09 myhost org.freedesktop.Telepathy.ConnectionManager.haze[18224]: tp-glib-Message: Exiting Oct 04 15:36:17 myhost org.gnome.ControlCenter.SearchProvider[18224]: ** (gnome-control-center:18846): WARNING **: Ignoring launcher gufw (missing desktop file) Oct 04 15:36:17 myhost org.gnome.ControlCenter.SearchProvider[18224]: ** (gnome-control-center:18846): WARNING **: Ignoring launcher landscape-client-settings (missing desktop file) Oct 04 15:36:17 myhost org.gnome.ControlCenter.SearchProvider[18224]: ** (gnome-control-center:18846): WARNING **: Ignoring launcher language-selector (missing desktop file) Oct 04 15:36:17 myhost org.gnome.ControlCenter.SearchProvider[18224]: ** (gnome-control-center:18846): WARNING **: Ignoring launcher ubuntuone-installer (missing desktop file) Oct 04 15:36:25 myhost org.gnome.zeitgeist.Engine[18224]: ** (zeitgeist-datahub:18882): WARNING **: zeitgeist-datahub.vala:229: Unable to get name "org.gnome.zeitgeist.datahub" on the bus! Oct 04 15:36:25 myhost org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.AddressBook9[18224]: (evolution-addressbook-factory-subprocess:18768): e-book-backend-google-WARNING **: book_backend_google_open_sync: Failed to call credentials required: Operation was cancelled Oct 04 15:36:29 myhost org.gnome.OnlineAccounts[18224]: (goa-daemon:18416): GoaBackend-WARNING **: secret_password_lookup_sync() failed: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.secrets: Timeout was reached Oct 04 15:36:29 myhost org.gnome.OnlineAccounts[18224]: goa-daemon-Message: /org/gnome/OnlineAccounts/Accounts/account_1475603862_0: Setting AttentionNeeded to TRUE because EnsureCredentials() failed with: Failed to retrieve credentials from the keyring (goa-error-quark, 4) Oct 04 15:36:29 myhost org.gnome.Calendar[18224]: ** (gnome-calendar:18718): WARNING **: source_credentials_required_cb: Failed to authenticate m...@gmail.com': Failed to obtain an access token for 'm...@gmail.com': Failed to retrieve credentials from the keyring Oct 04 15:36:40 myhost org.gnome.seahorse.Application[18224]: (seahorse:18719): seahorse-WARNING **: gkr-backend.vala:90: couldn't connect to secret service: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.secrets: Timeout was reached Oct 04 15:36:56 myhost org.gnome.OnlineAccounts[18224]: (goa-daemon:18416): GoaBackend-WARNING **: secret_password_lookup_sync() failed: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.secrets: Timeout was reached Oct 04 15:37:27 myhost org.gnome.OnlineAccounts[18224]: (goa-daemon:18416): GoaBackend-WA
Latest update broke seahorse/gnome-keyring...?
Hi all. I just updated my Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 system, which also has the GNOME Staging PPA installed, this morning and after rebooting I can no longer use GNOME keyring, so Evolution basically doesn't work for me. I deleted all my accounts from Online Accounts and tried to re-add them but failed the same way. Rebooting again didn't help either (just in case something was wedged the first time). Basically what happens is that all requests for authentication seem to time out. My account are marked as "Credentials have expired" and if I try to re-authenticate them by entering my password (these are Google accounts) I get an error box: Error logging into the account Failed to store credentials in the keyring I was able to add my personal ISP IMAP account to Evolution directly rather than using Online Accounts, but if I have the "Save password in keyring" checkbox saved inside Evo that fails as well. Looking at journalctl output when I first log in before I do anything else I see this: org.gnome.OnlineAccounts[4933]: goa-daemon-Message: goa-daemon version 3.20.3 starting org.gnome.OnlineAccounts[4933]: (goa-daemon:5172): GoaBackend-WARNING **: secret_password_lookup_sync() failed: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.secrets: Timeout was reached org.gnome.OnlineAccounts[4933]: goa-daemon-Message: /org/gnome/OnlineAccounts/Accounts/account_1473692397_0: Setting AttentionNeeded to TRUE because EnsureCredentials() failed with: Failed to retrieve credentials from the keyring (goa-error-quark, 4) All subsequent attempts to use online accounts give similar errors, about Timeout was reached, and then nothing succeeds. Help! How can I reset my keyring so that it works again? -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Evolution-data-server (3.18.x) memory leak and possibility of using 3.20 in 16.04?
On Sun, 2016-09-18 at 21:31 +0500, Khurshid Alam wrote: > So this brings out the question, is it possible to upload eds-3.20 on > 16.04 as regular xenial-updates? I don't know about this. However, if you're willing to switch to use Gnome 3.20 in general you can subscribe your system to the Gnome3- Staging PPA. This contains most of Gnome 3.20, not just Evolution, built for 16.04: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3-staging?field.series_filter=xenial I've been using it for a while now and it works well for me (with one caveat: you have to hard-code SSH_AUTH_SOCK rather than using the default, because there's no port of gnome-keyring 3.20 in this PPA yet). YMMV of course... -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: GNOME ssh askpass not working in 3.20?
On Sun, 2016-06-12 at 19:04 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > > OK, do I need to do anything to get gnome-keyring added to GNOME3 > > Staging? > > You can file a bug, but I'll probably work on the upload later this > week. > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/ Hi Jeremy; I didn't see this come through yet. I expect you got busy, as happens to all of us :). Would it help for me to file a launchpad bug; I'm happy to do so? Cheers! -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Ubuntu-GNOME Digest, Vol 40, Issue 11
On Wed, 2016-06-15 at 13:29 +0100, Adam Eveleigh wrote: > >Snaps are already supported in the 16.04 base, you can play with them > >now. It's just an idea, but maybe either snaps or XDG would make it > >easier to run the latest version of GNOME 3 desktop/apps under Ubuntu. > Yes I like that idea. It could be more stable for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS > users to use more recent GNOME applications via Flatpak rather than > the PPA (the PPA could be kept, but if it works well then perhaps > Flatpak should be the recommended option). First, my understanding of the GNOME3 Staging PPA is that it's a testing area for the next release of Ubuntu GNOME. People using that PPA are, to some extent, volunteering to help test the next Ubuntu GNOME release. I think switching to snaps would defeat that purpose, unless we plan to switch the base Ubuntu GNOME installation to snaps. Second, I'm not at all sure that putting the entire desktop in a snap would work. I mean, how do you get the system to start the display manager in the snap instead of the one on the system? Or if you decide you'll use the system GDM, how do you tell it to start the desktop (gnome-session/gnome-shell/etc.) in the snap? And is it always the case that the dbus etc. interactions will be compatible? The desktop is infrastructural, not a separable app that can easily be dropped into a container with limited access to other aspects of the system. I'm not sure I see how these new-fangled package formats would work with something like that. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: GNOME ssh askpass not working in 3.20?
On Sun, 2016-06-12 at 18:49 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Paul Smith > wrote: > > OK, I found this Debian bug which exactly describes my situation: > > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=804703 > > Oh. This might because we didn't upgrade gnome-keyring to 3.20 in the > GNOME3 Staging PPA. We should at least try that first. > > See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/738205 . Yeah, I saw that but it was discussing Wayland and it was resolved... and I thought we were using a gnome-keyring with those fixes. OK, do I need to do anything to get gnome-keyring added to GNOME3 Staging? Thanks Jeremy! -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: GNOME ssh askpass not working in 3.20?
On Sun, 2016-06-12 at 16:53 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2016-06-11 at 12:31 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > > This morning I updated my Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 LTS system to GNOME 3.20 > > using the Gnome3 Staging PPA. > > > > One issue is that somehow ssh is not longer asking for my passphrase > > using ssh-askpass. Instead it always asks on the terminal and I need to > > enter it each time (it's not added to ssh-agent). I didn't change > > anything about my personal configuration except install the GNOME 3.20 > > packages and reboot. > > > > If I run "ssh-add" by hand, then the key is added to the agent and it > > works properly, so the agent is running and configured properly. It's > > only the ssh-askpass connection thing that is busted. > > > > Anyone have any thoughts, or pointers to what I should look for? > > _However_, at work my SSH_AUTH_SOCK value is set to > /run/user/$UID/keyring/ssh while at home my SSH_AUTH_SOCK is set > to /tmp/ssh-PYYRVK6N9zlP/agent.$SSH_AGENT_PID > > If I change my SSH_AUTH_SOCK at home to be set to the same thing as at > work (that socket does exist, I checked), then everything works right! > > So it seems that somehow during the upgrade to GNOME 3.20, the > startup/login sequence has been modified such that the "standard" ssh- > agent's value of SSH_AUTH_SOCK is taking precedence over the gnome- > keyring version of that variable (at least I assume something in GNOME > is creating the /run/user/.../ssh socket and maintaining it). OK, I found this Debian bug which exactly describes my situation: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=804703 I checked with journalctl and discovered that I see the same warning during session start described in that bug: Jun 12 15:55:00 mysys org.a11y.Bus[2490]: ** (process:2639): WARNING **: Failed to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files Later on in journalctl I do see this: Jun 12 15:55:09 mysys gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop[2778]: SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh Jun 12 15:55:09 mysys gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop[2779]: SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh Jun 12 15:55:09 mysys gnome-keyring-secrets.desktop[2786]: SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh but it apparently isn't taking effect, at least not in gnome-shell (where is where all my terminals are started from). I'm going to ask on a GNOME-specific mailing list and see what people say. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: GNOME ssh askpass not working in 3.20?
On Sat, 2016-06-11 at 12:31 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > This morning I updated my Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 LTS system to GNOME 3.20 > using the Gnome3 Staging PPA. > > One issue is that somehow ssh is not longer asking for my passphrase > using ssh-askpass. Instead it always asks on the terminal and I need to > enter it each time (it's not added to ssh-agent). I didn't change > anything about my personal configuration except install the GNOME 3.20 > packages and reboot. > > If I run "ssh-add" by hand, then the key is added to the agent and it > works properly, so the agent is running and configured properly. It's > only the ssh-askpass connection thing that is busted. > > Anyone have any thoughts, or pointers to what I should look for? No response yet :(. However, I discovered a critical clue: on my Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 system at work, which I have not upgraded to GNOME 3.20, I looked to see the difference. In both environments the SSH_AGENT_PID is set to the PID of an ssh-agent process, which is running using the same arguments. _However_, at work my SSH_AUTH_SOCK value is set to /run/user/$UID/keyring/ssh while at home my SSH_AUTH_SOCK is set to /tmp/ssh-PYYRVK6N9zlP/agent.$SSH_AGENT_PID If I change my SSH_AUTH_SOCK at home to be set to the same thing as at work (that socket does exist, I checked), then everything works right! So it seems that somehow during the upgrade to GNOME 3.20, the startup/login sequence has been modified such that the "standard" ssh- agent's value of SSH_AUTH_SOCK is taking precedence over the gnome- keyring version of that variable (at least I assume something in GNOME is creating the /run/user/.../ssh socket and maintaining it). Anyone have any thoughts about this? -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Evolution selection is white-on-white in GNOME 3.20
On Sat, 2016-06-11 at 13:45 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Thank you for reporting this issue and doing the research to find out > what we need to do. > I am rebuilding webkitgtk now. I pulled latest updates and selection now works properly in Evolution. Thanks for the fix!!-- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Evolution selection is white-on-white in GNOME 3.20
This morning I updated my Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 LTS system to GNOME 3.20 using the Gnome3 Staging PPA. One issue is that now when I select text in Evolution (the message preview/reader window and also the compose window), the selection is white-on-white so the text just disappears while the selection is active. If I select text in another GNOME application like gedit, it's the expected blue background/white foreground. There was an email thread on the evolution mailing list about this issue, from someone using Debian. Here's a link to the relevant thread: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2016-May/msg00045.html Here's a note from Milan in that (long) thread that explains the issue: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2016-May/msg00091.html Basically, there is conditionally-compiled code in WebKitGTK+ such that if it's compiled against an older gtk+ 3.18, then the code needed to get selection working right is not compiled. We need to get WebKitGTK+ to be compiled against gtk+ 3.20, in order for this issue to be fixed and selection to work properly. There's a Debian bug filed: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825304 Is there a good way to get a new build of WebKitGTK+ compiled against gtk+ 3.20, for the GNOME3 Staging PPA? Cheers! -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
GNOME ssh askpass not working in 3.20?
This morning I updated my Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 LTS system to GNOME 3.20 using the Gnome3 Staging PPA. One issue is that somehow ssh is not longer asking for my passphrase using ssh-askpass. Instead it always asks on the terminal and I need to enter it each time (it's not added to ssh-agent). I didn't change anything about my personal configuration except install the GNOME 3.20 packages and reboot. If I run "ssh-add" by hand, then the key is added to the agent and it works properly, so the agent is running and configured properly. It's only the ssh-askpass connection thing that is busted. I've noticed that I don't have any SSH_ASKPASS env var set, but I don't remember setting that myself before; also if I set it before starting ssh (export SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/ssh-askpass) I still get asked for the passphrase on the terminal. (Also if I run that ssh-askpass by hand I get a standard GNOME dialog, instead of the normal modal dialog I used to get, which dimmed the entire screen--maybe that's an Ubuntu extension? I can't find other askpass commands but maybe they have an unusual name?) I find it odd that this is related to GNOME 3.20 install but I don't know what else it could be since that's all I changed. Anyone have any thoughts, or pointers to what I should look for? -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 LTS is here!
On Wed, 2016-04-27 at 17:50 -0500, Ty wrote:
> Alright. I'll just find another extension to use for now. I really
> dislike the big, bulky Gnome titlebars.
I haven't tried 16.04 (Gnome 3.18) yet, but this works great for me in
Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 (Gnome 3.16); no extensions needed:
/* The default title bars in Gnome 3 are TOO HUGE!!
* In pre-3.16 versions of Gnome we used to modify the Metacity theme
* but that doesn't work in 3.16 for whatever reason. Found this on:
* https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1518845#p1518845
*
* Add this file to ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
* Then either log out/in or restart the shell (ALT-F2 r RET)
*/
.header-bar.default-decoration {
padding-top: 0px;
padding-bottom: 0px;
/* Not exactly sure what this does; it's something to do with borders
border: none;
background-image: linear-gradient(to bottom,
shade(@theme_bg_color, 1.05),
shade(@theme_bg_color, 0.99));
box-shadow: inset 0 1px shade(@theme_bg_color, 1.4);
*/
}
.header-bar.default-decoration .button.titlebutton {
padding-top: 0px;
padding-bottom: 0px;
}--
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Re: 15.10: Evolution 3.16 won't use proportional fonts
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 16:20 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 08:10 +1100, Tim wrote: > > > Is there more work to be done, or am I looking in the wrong place? > > No, it was just waiting in the queue for approval by an sru team > > member (that was just done), this typically takes around a week, > > though sometimes can be faster or slower. > > Yes I got the email. I'll follow up and verify when the build comes > through. Works great! Thanks all! -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: 15.10: Evolution 3.16 won't use proportional fonts
On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 08:10 +1100, Tim wrote: > > Is there more work to be done, or am I looking in the wrong place? > No, it was just waiting in the queue for approval by an sru team > member (that was just done), this typically takes around a week, > though sometimes can be faster or slower. Yes I got the email. I'll follow up and verify when the build comes through. Thanks! -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: 15.10: Evolution 3.16 won't use proportional fonts
On Thu, 2015-11-26 at 12:22 -0300, Felipe Reyes wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 14:16:39 -0500 > Paul Smith wrote: > > > Will do, thanks! Will there be an update to the bug once the fix > goes > > into -proposed? > > Yes, a new comment is posted in the bug (and depending on your LP > account setup you'll get an email too). FWIW, I see the bug is marked "Fix Committed" last Wednesday but I still don't see any new Evolution* packages in the "Wily Proposed" (or other) repos. Is there more work to be done, or am I looking in the wrong place? Sorry for excessive newbie-ness! :-/ :-) -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: 15.10: Evolution 3.16 won't use proportional fonts
On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 12:56 -0300, Felipe Reyes wrote: > > There's a link there to a simple two-line change which fixes the > issue > > and was applied to Evo 3.18, but it would be great if someone could > > get this fix backported to the Evolution 3.16 version in Ubuntu > 15.10. > > I just attached a debdiff that fixes the problem, now waiting for > sponsorship on the patch. It would be great if you could keep and eye > on the bug and verify the fix once it gets pushed into > wily-proposed :) Will do, thanks! Will there be an update to the bug once the fix goes into -proposed? -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
15.10: Evolution 3.16 won't use proportional fonts
Hi all; I found this bug in Evolution 3.16.5 in Ubuntu GNOME: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1518988 There's a link there to a simple two-line change which fixes the issue and was applied to Evo 3.18, but it would be great if someone could get this fix backported to the Evolution 3.16 version in Ubuntu 15.10. Cheers! -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Encrypting with Evolution *Off Topic*
On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 15:28 +0100, Leo Francisco wrote: > Yeh, I can imagine that could be so frustrating. Is there no official > PPA? No official PPA that I'm aware of. There are a couple of unofficial PPAs but they are not kept up to date (for example I know of one that has Evo 3.16.0 but it hasn't been updated to 3.16.5 which is the current latest version, and has many important fixes). It looks like Ubuntu 15.10 will move to 3.16.x, which will be great. > Obviously Thunderbird is always kept up to date and I've just become > super used to it. I just always like to keep an eye on the GNOME apps > for the integration. I've tried Thunderbird a few times and I just prefer Evo. The only really serious problem I have is the utterly inane way Gnome deals with password requests, popping up a modal dialog that blocks your entire desktop. This is the single stupidest design decision since Clippy, but it's not Evo's fault. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Encrypting with Evolution *Off Topic*
On Tue, 2015-09-15 at 14:06 +0100, Leo Francisco wrote: > Is anyone out there in our community actually using Evolution as their > main email client? I cannot get it to work well for me any which way I > try. Yes, I use it as my one and only email client for home and work and I have for over 10 years, since I was forced to drop Emacs VM when my company at the time switched to Exchange for email (luckily I've since moved on from there and don't need to mess with Exchange anymore, but I didn't switch back). The biggest problem with Evolution in Ubuntu GNOME is that the version provided by Ubuntu is always at least one and sometimes more major releases behind the current version. This means we don't get fixes or enhancements anymore and reporting bugs to the Evolution team is difficult since we can't test the latest version. In fact some people on the Evo mailing lists are at least subtly dismissive of anyone using Ubuntu since we almost always have old buggy versions. I used to build Evolution myself but since I don't need Exchange support Evo is mostly "good enough" for me and I just live with the annoying things that I know are already fixed in the next version... building Evo from scratch is not for the faint of heart IME. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Call for a meeting (IRC/Hangout)
On Sat, 2015-08-01 at 14:52 +0100, Charlie Moss wrote: > I simply suggest Slack is a better system that IRC. That may be, however luckily we don't need to argue about it: it's simply a non-starter to use a closed-source/non-free (free as in freedom, not price) product as the primary communications medium for an open source platform like GNOME, no matter how much better it is. I do think people have overreacted to this suggestion, and been unnecessarily rude. I see no justification for accusations of trolling, etc. This kind of reaction seems to happen more often than I'd expect for a list like this. Perhaps everyone could just take a step back from their keyboard and wait a few hours before firing off accusatory messages. I often write strident emails, because it makes me feel better to express myself... but then I delete them without sending them and either don't reply at all if I ended up having nothing constructive to add, or else send something simple and concrete. Nothing is lost by waiting until tomorrow to send that email, and no one ever wins the Internet. IMHO this list would be more pleasant if people were more willing to give each other the benefit of the doubt. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Wherefore art thou, Evolution 3.16?
On Sun, 2015-05-17 at 10:26 +1000, Tim wrote: > On 17/05/15 05:57, Paul Smith wrote: > > partly it's because Ubuntu always seems to be shipping > > an older version of Evo than other modern distros, > also note that evolution has a 1 year release cycle now, so there was > no 3.14 release, 3.16 was released pretty late to even try and get it > into vivid. Yes, I'm aware (I follow the Evolution mailing lists and dev lists pretty closely): that's why I was suggesting it for GNOME3 Staging. I note there are already a large number of GNOME 3.16 apps there. Although, Evolution 3.16 does work with and can be installed with GNOME 3.14 as well (that's an intentional goal for the Evo dev team). Unfortunately Evo 3.12 is really somewhat buggy, so it's not just a matter of nice new features such as the new composer. For example, I hit https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737468 almost every other time I fetch mail, even with the workaround. And of course there's the infamous https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688434 which keeps me from being able to use one of my mail/calendar accounts completely. Thanks for the information: here's hoping someone finds the time to do the needed work. Cheers! -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Wherefore art thou, Evolution 3.16?
On Fri, 2015-05-15 at 07:50 +1000, Tim wrote: > The packages in the archives are shared with Ubuntu proper, so the > patches are still there, however in many cases they have been made > optional, so that at run-time they don't affect the GNOME session. > > The real issue with evolution however, is that updating > evolution-data-server is a very big task, and none of us have had the > time to tackle that yet. Thanks for the info, Tim and Jackson. If it's true that the Ubuntu Evolution package requires so many changes to work well with Unity, I wonder if it's really appropriate to use the same package for Ubuntu and Ubuntu GNOME. Wouldn't it be easier to just build straight GNOME Evolution for Ubuntu GNOME? I know that one thing I see a lot of on the Evolution mailing lists is frustration that the Ubuntu version of Evolution seems to have problems that are not present in other distros; partly it's because Ubuntu always seems to be shipping an older version of Evo than other modern distros, but I have to assume it's also due to the number of modifications as you mention. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by updating evolution-data-server: in what way does it need to be updated beyond what's available from upstream? Is this another set of patches needed to make EDS work with Unity? Or, maybe the evolution-data-server-online-accounts package? Is that Ubuntu-only? I thought GNOME supported an online accounts facility as well? Cheers! -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Wherefore art thou, Evolution 3.16?
On Fri, 2015-05-15 at 05:42 +1000, Jackson Doak wrote: > It's not so much no one is interested, it's just quite a bit of time > and effort is required to get the evolution stack into the PPA with > all of the ubuntu patches. Thanks for the response! To be clear, by "all the Ubuntu patches" do you mean Ubuntu patches to Evolution? Or Ubuntu patches to GNOME? I guess I was under the impression that Ubuntu GNOME was basically vanilla GNOME on Ubuntu, similar to GNOME on Debian, with perhaps some build/environment/etc. modifications to integrate with Ubuntu base system. But, if changes to Ubuntu GNOME are pervasive enough to make building/integrating GNOME's native Evolution code difficult, it seems there's a lot more going on than I was aware of! I do know Evolution tries to be able to build with both the previous version of GNOME and the current version (so, GNOME 3.14 and 3.16 for Evolution 3.16) so I imagined it was well-separated. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Wherefore art thou, Evolution 3.16?
On Fri, 2015-05-08 at 13:11 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > Hi all. I'm using Ubuntu GNOME 15.04 and it's been going quite well, > with minor issues. > > One big thing I'm missing is Evolution 3.16. The current release in > 15.04 is Evolution 3.12. I realize standard Ubuntu GNOME 15.04 is > mainly GNOME 3.14, but even in the GNOME3 Staging PPA I see lots of 3.16 > apps but not Evolution. > > I really need Evo 3.16. I could build it myself, but I'd prefer to get > a package. Evolution 3.16 actually can be built and run fine on GNOME > 3.14; could it be added to the GNOME3 PPA? If not can it be added to > GNOME3 Staging PPA? No joy for me? I did find a PPA which provides Evolution 3.16.0, provided by Fabien Tassin, which is awesome but it hasn't been updated since March (so it doesn't have the current Evolution 3.16.2.1 version) and also it doesn't provide evolution-data-server-online-accounts, and I've configured my email accounts through Gnome's online accounts (I could redo them in Evo directly of course). No one is interested in getting Evolution 3.16.2.1 into the GNOME3 Staging PPA? -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Wherefore art thou, Evolution 3.16?
Hi all. I'm using Ubuntu GNOME 15.04 and it's been going quite well, with minor issues. One big thing I'm missing is Evolution 3.16. The current release in 15.04 is Evolution 3.12. I realize standard Ubuntu GNOME 15.04 is mainly GNOME 3.14, but even in the GNOME3 Staging PPA I see lots of 3.16 apps but not Evolution. I really need Evo 3.16. I could build it myself, but I'd prefer to get a package. Evolution 3.16 actually can be built and run fine on GNOME 3.14; could it be added to the GNOME3 PPA? If not can it be added to GNOME3 Staging PPA? Cheers! -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Ubuntu GNOME 15.04 and suspend/resume
On Sun, 2015-04-26 at 13:26 +0100, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > It's nice to see 15.04 is out but the release notes report a bug[1] > that would be show-stopper for me: > > "Will not resume from suspend (1447331)." I installed on my Macbook pro and suspend and resume works fine... EXCEPT that my wireless connection won't come back automatically after I resume. I have to go to the network manager and I see wireless is "not connected"; I have to select a wireless network to re-enable it. Which is annoying. And, when I did it just now my entire system froze solid the second I clicked a wireless connection (can't even C-A-F2 to get to a console, no C-A-D etc.) and I had to hard-power-cycle it (hold down the power button until it turned off). But, macbooks have to use some funky nonstandard wireless kernel driver so not necessarily a general issue. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Evolution with bogofilter: wherefore are thou?
^Subject: s/are/art/ oops... On Wed, 2015-01-14 at 07:46 +1100, Tim wrote: > On 14/01/15 05:35, Paul Smith wrote: > > What can we do to help get this fixed in Ubuntu 15.04? The bug was > > filed over a year ago and no maintainer seems interested in responding > > to or fixing it. > bogofilter is disabled in Ubuntu since bogofilter is in universe, and > packages in main (i,e. evolution) can't build against universe > packages. It's frustrating when arbitrary distribution policy decisions end up costing you the use of critical software you rely on every day. As an end user do I really care whether something in main depends on something in universe? Heck I don't even care if they move the entirety of Evolution into universe to solve this problem; it all looks like "apt-get install" to me. I just want my software to work and my spam to be filtered, like it was before I upgraded. Does anyone know why this happened in the first place? It used to work. Was the policy originally ignored in this case? Was bogofilter demoted from main to universe for some reason? Did anyone realize this was a regression at the time? > The only way to fix this is get bogofilter promoted to main via an MIR > [1], Im not sure what the chances of getting that approved would be > though, particularly since bogofilter doesnt appear very active > upstream. Well, there was a bug fix upstream in November, and I don't see a large number of launchpad issues that are not addressed. Software that is stable and works shouldn't need to be continuously fiddled with just to keep up appearances for main inclusion (IMO). Anyway it seems to me that it should be possible to build Evo with potential support for bogofilter but not list it as a requirement in the package; if you install bogofilter then you can use it in Evo and if not, not. That would appear to me to be exactly the point of having "plugins". Maybe Evo's plugin support doesn't work like that but it seems like something could be shimmed or symlinked or wrapped or something. > Anyway you would probably be better off checking with ubuntu-desktop > team since they maintain evolution. I feel somewhat Quixotic at this point, but nothing ventured and all that... I'll give it a whirl... thanks for the pointers! -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Evolution with bogofilter: wherefore are thou?
I've been using Ubuntu GNOME at home and I'm liking it a lot. I think I'll probably switch my work system to using it instead of Mint the next time I update that system. I have only a few problems, the most annoying of which is the lack of bogofilter plugin support in Evolution. I've been using Evo for a lot of years, and I've been using my same email addresses for even more years. I get a LOT of spam. Up until recently I was able to use the bogofilter plugin in Evo and it worked really, really well: it runs fast, is quick to train, and is scary-good at telling ham from spam. Unfortunately as of 14.04 the bogofilter plugin is no longer supported in Ubuntu's build of Evolution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1247366 This is seriously crushing my email buzz. SA is just _terrible_ for me. I've had to enable my ISPs spam detection which is OK for a generic detector most of the time (finds about 60% of my spam) but sometimes it takes a nutty and starts dropping half my email into my spam folder. What can we do to help get this fixed in Ubuntu 15.04? The bug was filed over a year ago and no maintainer seems interested in responding to or fixing it. Can we get some dialog going here with the Ubuntu Evo maintainers? If base Ubuntu won't fix it can the Ubuntu GNOME project take over packaging of Evo and fix the issue there? -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Fwd: #DefendGNOME
On Tue, 2014-11-11 at 23:26 +0530, Satyajit Sahoo wrote: > Seems groupon is left no choice > now https://www.groupon.com/blog/cities/gnome-update I don't read this as capitulation, not really. Basically it seems to say "we'll keep trying to get them to let us use the name, but we'll hold off lawyers for now". I think there are grounds to be cautiously optimistic, but not triumphant. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Utopic (14.10) gnome3-stable gnome-terminal packages broken
Hi all; the gnome-terminal and gnome-terminal-data packages in the gnome3-stable PPA are currently broken (conflicting with each other). The ones in the standard Utopic repositories don't have this problem. This is what I get: $ sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages will be upgraded: gnome-terminal gnome-terminal-data 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0 B/1,887 kB of archives. After this operation, 77.8 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y (Reading database ... 439419 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../gnome-terminal-data_3.12.3-0ubuntu1~utopic2_all.deb ... Unpacking gnome-terminal-data (3.12.3-0ubuntu1~utopic2) over (3.12.3-0ubuntu1~trusty1) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-terminal-data_3.12.3-0ubuntu1~utopic2_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/gnome-shell/search-providers/gnome-terminal-search-provider.ini', which is also in package gnome-terminal 3.12.3-0ubuntu1~trusty1 dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe) Preparing to unpack .../gnome-terminal_3.12.3-0ubuntu1~utopic2_amd64.deb ... Unpacking gnome-terminal (3.12.3-0ubuntu1~utopic2) over (3.12.3-0ubuntu1~trusty1) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-terminal_3.12.3-0ubuntu1~utopic2_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/appdata/gnome-terminal.appdata.xml', which is also in package gnome-terminal-data 3.12.3-0ubuntu1~trusty1 Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.0.2-2) ... Processing triggers for bamfdaemon (0.5.1+14.10.20140925-0ubuntu1) ... Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf-2.index... Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.22-1ubuntu2) ... Processing triggers for mime-support (3.55ubuntu1) ... Processing triggers for gnome-menus (3.10.1-0ubuntu2) ... Processing triggers for menu (2.1.47ubuntu1) ... Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0:amd64 (2.42.0-2) ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-terminal-data_3.12.3-0ubuntu1~utopic2_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-terminal_3.12.3-0ubuntu1~utopic2_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) $ apt-cache madison gnome-terminal gnome-terminal | 3.12.3-0ubuntu1~utopic2 | http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3/ubuntu/ utopic/main amd64 Packages gnome-terminal | 3.6.2-0ubuntu1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ utopic/main amd64 Packages gnome-terminal | 3.6.2-0ubuntu1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ utopic/main Sources $ apt-cache madison gnome-terminal-data gnome-terminal-data | 3.12.3-0ubuntu1~utopic2 | http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3/ubuntu/ utopic/main amd64 Packages gnome-terminal-data | 3.6.2-0ubuntu1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ utopic/main amd64 Packages gnome-terminal | 3.6.2-0ubuntu1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ utopic/main Sources -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Upgrade from Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 to 14.10 issues
So, my attempt to upgrade from Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 to 14.10 failed, I believe because I had previously used the PPA for gnome3-stable. I removed all my PPAs before I started using ppa-purge as suggested, then ran "sudo do-release-upgrade". However, ubuntu-gnome-desktop wouldn't install, because gnome-shell (!) and gdm would not install. TL;DR: I fixed it by running this command to forcibly downgrade some of my packages to the ones in Utopic: # apt-get install --reinstall gdm libgdm1=3.10.0.1-0ubuntu7 \ gir1.2-gdm-1.0=3.10.0.1-0ubuntu7 gnome-shell \ gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0=0.9.23-2ubuntu2 TIP: The "apt-cache madison " command is GREAT for figuring out what's available where. After the above I was able to install ubuntu-gnome-desktop, but still empathy and totem won't install due to older versions in Utopic. I fixed that with this: # apt-get install --reinstall empathy-common=3.8.6-0ubuntu13 \ libtotem0=3.10.1-1ubuntu6 totem-common=3.10.1-1ubuntu6 \ gir1.2-totem-1.0=3.10.1-1ubuntu6 But the info below might be helpful for someone trying to work out how to fix the issue upstream. Note, I'm not really sure why GDM is such a big deal since (IIRC) Ubuntu uses lightdm anyway... doesn't it? Does Ubuntu GNOME use full GDM? I haven't kept up. Shouldn't the requirement of gnome-shell for GDM be modified, or lightdm be made to Provide "gdm", or something? # apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop ... The following packages have unmet dependencies: ubuntu-gnome-desktop : Depends: gdm but it is not going to be installed Depends: gnome-shell but it is not going to be installed Depends: gnome-shell-extensions but it is not going to be installed Recommends: empathy but it is not going to be installed Recommends: mcp-account-manager-goa but it is not going to be installed Recommends: totem but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Just to be clear, I don't have any held packages: # dpkg --get-selections | grep hold And, worryingly, I see that gnome-shell is not installed: # dpkg -l gnome-shell un gnome-shell (no description available) If I try to install gnome-shell I get: The following packages have unmet dependencies: gnome-shell : Depends: gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0 (< 0.99) but 0.99.1-3~trusty1 is to be installed Recommends: gdm (>= 3.5.90) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. If I try to install gdm I get: The following packages have unmet dependencies: gdm : Depends: libgdm1 (= 3.10.0.1-0ubuntu7) but 3.12.2-0ubuntu1~utopic2 is to be installed Depends: gir1.2-gdm-1.0 (= 3.10.0.1-0ubuntu7) but 3.12.2-0ubuntu1~utopic2 is to be installed Depends: gnome-shell but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. If I try to find versions of gdm available, I get: # apt-cache show gdm | grep ^Version: Version: 3.12.2-0ubuntu1~trusty1 Version: 3.10.0.1-0ubuntu7 It looks like the problem is that the gdm I had from the Trusty GNOME stable PPA is newer than whatever is in Utopic: # apt-cache madison gdm gdm | 3.10.0.1-0ubuntu7 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ utopic/universe amd64 Packages gdm | 3.10.0.1-0ubuntu7 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ utopic/universe Sources and there's no other option. If I try to add the current gnome3-team stable PPA, now there's a newer GDM available which is good: # apt-cache madison gdm gdm | 3.12.2-0ubuntu1~utopic2 | http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3/ubuntu/ utopic/main amd64 Packages gdm | 3.10.0.1-0ubuntu7 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ utopic/universe amd64 Packages gdm | 3.10.0.1-0ubuntu7 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ utopic/universe Sources But it still won't install because it wants gnome-shell and gnome-shell won't install because there's not a new-enough gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0 version available: gnome-shell : Depends: gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0 (< 0.99) but 0.99.1-3~trusty1 is to be installed Recommends: gdm (>= 3.5.90) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. # apt-cache madison gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0 gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0 | 0.9.23-2ubuntu2 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ utopic/main amd64 Packages At this point I was stuck so I resorted to forcibly downgrading, as in the first few paragraphs above. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Session not being preserved across reboot?
Hi all. I have a strange situation that maybe someone can help with. Originally when I installed Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 (64bit; from-scratch installation) it was fine. But since a few weeks or so, every time I reboot my GNOME session loses information about the extensions that I have enabled and reverts to the default desktop, and I have to re-enable my extensions. Then if I reboot it resets again and I have to re-enable them again. I'm using GNOME Tweak Tool to manage my extensions. The only extensions I'm enabling are Frippery panel favorites and Window List, so it's not like I have a ton of things, and I don't reboot that often of course, but it's still annoying. Thoughts? I'm not sure where these settings are kept. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Evolution 3.12 again.
On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 15:05 -0400, Steve Ovens wrote: > We have no specific ETA. I can tell you that (mainly) Tim, and I are > working towards bringing down the debian upstream packages. Does this (using Debian packages) mean that we'll get support for bogofilter plugin added back? The Ubuntu Evolution packages don't support it at all anymore (as far as I can see), and I'm dying under a barrage of spam since I updated to 14.04. I don't care if I have to install other stuff I don't need at the same time. I have the default spamassassin enabled and I diligently mark all my spam and CTRL-J it as junk, but it never gets any better; Evolution finds maybe 5 spam emails a day (the fact that it finds SOME seems to show that it works--just not well). With Bogofilter after a day or two virtually all my spam was properly identified. And as well, spamassassin is s sloow... when I hit CTRL-J it takes literally seconds per email. With Bogofilter it was almost instantaneous to mark mail as junk. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Help! Multi-display broken with latest updates
On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 11:07 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > I can't resize it; in no situation are there any window resize handles > available at any of the edges or corners of the Evolution window. The > documented ALT-F8 key for doing keyboard resizing does nothing. I > also cannot move it; I can't access the borders as they're not > available and ALT-F7 doesn't work either. I was able to resolve this by stopping Evo, using dconf and going to the org->gnome->evolution->shell->window page and changing the height and width values (which were set to 1080 and 1920, the size of my display), then restarting Evo. Once I did this, Evo showed up as a normal maximized window and I was able to unmaximize it then move it around and resize it as normal. It looks like there's some kind of bug in Gnome dealing with windows that are set to be as large as the entire screen? I don't know how that happened, except maybe Evo started maximized on my second display (where there are no Gnome panels so it would take the entire screen) then didn't get reset properly when I moved it over to my other display? Well anyway, things seem to be back to normal... -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Help! Multi-display broken with latest updates
On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 10:35 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > Hah! I found out that if you put your mouse over just a pixel or two > around the border of the square representing the monitor then you can > select it and move it. That fixed that, but SOMETHING is definitely, clearly messed up with the latest updates. I use Evolution and it lives in one of my workspaces on my main display, and it's utterly broken right now. The Evolution window has somehow become as large as the entire display (it takes up all the pixels on the screen). So either I can't see the Evolution menu bar because it's hidden behind the top Gnome panel, or else Evolution is hiding the Gnome panel and I can't get access to it (that includes not being able to move my mouse to the hot corner and get the HUD to show up). It switches back and forth; I can switch it by moving the Evo window to my other display (which has no top panel) and back; then I can see the Gnome panel, but as soon as I start an email message (in a new window) the Evolution window automatically minimizes (which is weird) and when I restore it, it's taking the entire display again. I have a window list applet available but the right-click on the Evolution window shows options for "Maximize", not "Unmaximize", so I guess the system thinks it's not maximized. I can't resize it; in no situation are there any window resize handles available at any of the edges or corners of the Evolution window. The documented ALT-F8 key for doing keyboard resizing does nothing. I also cannot move it; I can't access the borders as they're not available and ALT-F7 doesn't work either. I've restarted Evo but no change. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Re: Help! Multi-display broken with latest updates
On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 10:21 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > But no joy! Both my monitors are displayed there, and one is > selected. But, I cannot select the other one (no matter how I click > on it nothing happens and it is not selected), and I cannot move > either of them (no matter how I drag either of them nothing happens). Hah! I found out that if you put your mouse over just a pixel or two around the border of the square representing the monitor then you can select it and move it. That's pretty unintuitive: why can't I select and move it by clicking anywhere in the square? Also, I don't know why Gnome keeps forgetting my display preferences when I log out and back in. But, at least I am able to work again... -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
Help! Multi-display broken with latest updates
Hi all; I had Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 working with my dual-monitor display setup for the last few weeks. This morning I updated to the latest package versions which required a reboot; after my reboot my displays are switched (the one that is physically on the left and vice versa). Well, that's annoying that it lost my settings on reboot, sez me, but I popped up the Display settings applet to fix it. But no joy! Both my monitors are displayed there, and one is selected. But, I cannot select the other one (no matter how I click on it nothing happens and it is not selected), and I cannot move either of them (no matter how I drag either of them nothing happens). FYI, I have an Intel HD Graphics 4000 card with both DVI and HDMI output. The monitor I want on the right is the HDMI monitor and the one on the left is the DVI monitor. Anyone have any ideas? This is not workable, at all. -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
