Re: Ubuntu Material Design

[Kristian Rink]

Hi alls;

Am Dienstag, den 29.08.2017, 14:30 +0300 schrieb Ari Torhamo:
> 
> Who "we"? I certainly don't love Material Design, and I'm waiting for
> it to go out of fashion and hoping something less industrial (cold, 
> mechanical) looking takes it''s place.
> 

Partly agree, even though I have to say material design so far is
closest to that idea to date, looking at all other user interfaces I've
so far seen.

Talking about (Ubuntu) GNOME, however: I use that on my day-to-day work
laptop so I spend loads of time also during office hours in front of it
while at the same time I then and now have to do presentations or have
people sitting in front of my screen. 

For those scenarios I am looking for a simple, straight, "elegant"
theme, flat controls, decent color scheme, not too many bright
elements. So far I use either Numix Frost or Arc-Dark which seem
closest to that. Default GNOME theme unfortunately is not a fun to use
because of the window title bar and the top level bar which both are
way too large for a small screen and, talking about the window title
bar, pretty ugly at least by my tastes which doesn't count much. 

Would be nice, for these purposes, to have a theme such as Numix, Arc
or the Elementary-OS theme bundled with Ubuntu GNOME out of the box...

Cheers,
Kristian



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Re: Ubuntu Material Design

[Ari Torhamo]

On 29.08.2017 13:37, Khurshid Alam wrote:


Hi Eric,


On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 3:25 PM, snydox  wrote:
-Install Adapta GTK Theme along with Papirus Icon theme. Why? because 
they look gorgeous and they push the Material Design Concept we love 
on our Android phones.


Who "we"? I certainly don't love Material Design, and I'm waiting for it 
to go out of fashion and hoping something less industrial (cold, 
mechanical) looking takes it''s place.


-Ari-

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Re: Ubuntu Material Design

[Khurshid Alam]

Hi Eric,


On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 3:25 PM, snydox  wrote:
-Install Adapta GTK Theme along with Papirus Icon theme. Why? because 
they look gorgeous and they push the Material Design Concept we love 
on our Android phones.


It depends on the distro. Ubuntu has Ambiance/Radiance.



-Install Dash-to-dock Extension, and place the dock on the bottom 
with the App Drawer at the beginning. Why? Because wide screens let 
you place even more apps on the dock and even though Canonical 
believes that the dock should remain on the left, It doesn't really 
matter because the Intellihide feature gives you even more space when 
you maximize an App.


User can install d-t-d using apt or from gnome-software. But  you see 
d-t-d tries to do exactly opposite what gnome-shell is designed to do. 
So Gnome doesn't recommend distro to install it by default.




-Users also Install the Activities Configurator to add transparency 
to the top panel and change the "Activities" button for an icon.


Transparency idea was rejected by Gnome as it is against their HIG.  
User can install it if they want.




- And last but not least, most users install the Top Icons Plus 
extension to get rid of the bottom tray and place the applets on the 
top panel.


Top icons is based on legacy system-tray which Gnome removed 
completely. So as of now Top icons doesn't work. But there is better 
alternative: app-indicators. Ubuntu will use it and everybody else too.



When it comes to the default Apps, the most popular browser is Google 
Chrome (Not Chromium). I'm aware it is not a Free App but maybe 
Google can sign an agreement with a distro to make it default.


Normal users won't notice the difference between chrome & chromium. And 
no, Debian can't include chrome.




The world has the best Linux OS for phones and tablets: Android and 
the best Linux OS for Netbooks (ChromeOS) Why shouldn't we have the 
best OS for Work Stations as well?


What "best" according to you may not be the best according to someone 
else. You like shell, he likes Unity and she likes mate.



It would be nice to have an OS that provides a seamless Ecosystem 
among your devices.


Yes it would be. But it requires universal-online-account-integration, 
cloud-sync of data/settings ,an api to talk with the system  etc.

But as of now, no such project exists neither in Gnome nor in KDE.
Unity8 tried to do that which was abandoned. You can try Yunit when it 
become bit mature. Solus has similar plan too.




Thanks.



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Re: Ubuntu Material Design

[Michael Gratton]

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:55 PM, snydox  wrote:

What do you guys think?


I was actually thinking the other day that maybe Ubuntu GNOME should 
stick around in the exact same role that it is today. Artful will be 
shipping a version of GNOME3 with a bunch of customisations to ease the 
transition from Unity, and so there will still be a need for someone to 
provide a stock GNOME3 experience on Ubuntu, which is precisely what 
Ubuntu GNOME has been doing.


I'm not saying your suggestions don't have any merit, but I personally 
would like to retain a stock GNOME3 environnent since it is both 
visually appealing and the workflow works really well, for me, anyway.


//Mike

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Ubuntu Material Design

[snydox]

Good morning/afternoon ladies and gentlemen,


My name is Eric Nicholls and I'm nothing but a Linux Enthusiast that 
wish to see Linux on the Desktop. I'm currently running Ubuntu Gnome 
for the following reasons:


1) I come from Fedora and even though it is a nice OS, It lacks a lot 
of software, repos and support.
2) I left Ubuntu originally because  the so caledl Unity Desktop went 
from an idea to a fantasy and meanwhile Gnome was becoming a robust DE.


So I decided to Install Ubuntu Gnome and get the best from both worlds.


Now that Canonical will make Gnome default, I was wondering about the 
future of Ubuntu Gnome. I was thinking that maybe the project could 
ship a better version of Ubuntu Gnome Instead. Canonical will ship 
Gnome with only a few teaks and the truth is that Stock Gnome is not 
that friendly to the eye or to most people's workflow.


I have made a lot of surveys on Google+ and the majority of the users 
perform the following tweaks:


-Install Adapta GTK Theme along with Papirus Icon theme. Why? because 
they look gorgeous and they push the Material Design Concept we love on 
our Android phones.


-Install Dash-to-dock Extension, and place the dock on the bottom with 
the App Drawer at the beginning. Why? Because wide screens let you 
place even more apps on the dock and even though Canonical believes 
that the dock should remain on the left, It doesn't really matter 
because the Intellihide feature gives you even more space when you 
maximize an App.


-Users also Install the Activities Configurator to add transparency to 
the top panel and change the "Activities" button for an icon.


- And last but not least, most users install the Top Icons Plus 
extension to get rid of the bottom tray and place the applets on the 
top panel.


When it comes to the default Apps, the most popular browser is Google 
Chrome (Not Chromium). I'm aware it is not a Free App but maybe Google 
can sign an agreement with a distro to make it default.



The world has the best Linux OS for phones and tablets: Android and the 
best Linux OS for Netbooks (ChromeOS) Why shouldn't we have the best OS 
for Work Stations as well?


It would be nice to have an OS that provides a seamless Ecosystem among 
your devices.


I'm aware that System76 is doing something similar with POP_OS but they 
are personalizing the Experience for their own devices only,



This is a Google+ post where I published my Desktop so you could have 
an idea: https://plus.google.com/+ericnicholls-snydox/posts/TT6UtackRFE



What do you guys think?

Best Regards,

Eric Nicholls


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