Re: [ubuntu-in] Reducing number of start up apps

2010-03-01 Thread Ramnarayan.K
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Onkar Shinde  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Ramnarayan.K 
> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > My start up after login is really slow,
> >
> > seems like tonnes of apps are all starting up. Including beagle, which
> does
> > it standard indexing.
>
> Which version of Ubuntu are you using? Beagle is not default indexer
> for at least a year. The default is now tracker and it's performance
> is far better than beagle.
>
> using 9.10 (Ultimate edition)
where is tracker available ?? is it installed by default


> As per my observation after login till show of complete desktop, what
> takes most time is loading of gnome-panel including various applets.
>

means if the panels have lots of stuff on them they would slow down the
start up. I have 3 menu panels with tonnes of stuff to make it easier, am
wondering if thats the reason,

that also makes it a pain becuase i love the asy access the panel menu's
give to tools




> And IIRC, the clock applet is slowest of them probably because of the
> integrated calendar component. You may try removing clock applet from
>

hmm.. , another thing i really like - lets me know if it was yesterday or
tomorrow ;-)


> panel and see if that reduces the time.
>
> will see what all i can delete and check for noticeable time difference

thanks
ram


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Clock . Stop Watch or count down timer applet

2010-03-01 Thread Ramnarayan.K
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Onkar Shinde  wrote:

> Package alarm-clock or alarm-clock-applet. The application has more
> features than applet.
>
> much thanks, this does the job, simple effient

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Reducing number of start up apps

2010-03-01 Thread Onkar Shinde
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Ramnarayan.K  wrote:
> Hi
>
> My start up after login is really slow,
>
> seems like tonnes of apps are all starting up. Including beagle, which does
> it standard indexing.

Which version of Ubuntu are you using? Beagle is not default indexer
for at least a year. The default is now tracker and it's performance
is far better than beagle.

>
> Is there a way that  i can find and stop unnecessary apps from starting at
> login time
>
> I tried to check system->preferrences -> start up app preferences
>
> and made some changes there but am afraid to make more changes in case
> something happens to the system and it breaks (normally i would have risked
> it but my work is "mission critical and cannot afford to have my machine go
> down just yet even for a short while)
>
> Second - some apps - seem to make themselves permanently resident in the
> system tray even though i don't want them there - like rythm box, ktimer
> etc. Some of them can be configured to not appear on the system tray but
> others don't have any option.
>
> So any ideas on what i can do to
> 1. Stop such apps at start up
> 2. Stop apps from coming on the system tray without my specifying
> 3. Optimize login speed

As per my observation after login till show of complete desktop, what
takes most time is loading of gnome-panel including various applets.
And IIRC, the clock applet is slowest of them probably because of the
integrated calendar component. You may try removing clock applet from
panel and see if that reduces the time.


Onkar

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Clock . Stop Watch or count down timer applet

2010-03-01 Thread Onkar Shinde
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Ramnarayan.K  wrote:
> Hi
>
> am searching for a count down timer applet - that enables making an alarm
> after x (or n) number of minutes.
>
> any tips
>
> tried ktimer and ktime tracker
>
> they don't do the job

Package alarm-clock or alarm-clock-applet. The application has more
features than applet.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Reducing number of start up apps

2010-03-01 Thread ಮಲ್ಲಿಕಾರ್ಜುನ್
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Ramnarayan.K  wrote:

> Hi Bryan,
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Bryan Quigley wrote:
>
>>
>> Is there a way that  i can find and stop unnecessary apps from starting at
>>> login time
>>>
>>
>> There should definitely be some changes there that you can just remove
>> depending on what you use.   No bluetooth remove that, No prop. drivers
>> remove check for hardware drivers, don't use evolution uninstall it, not a
>> laptop - remove power manager, not using remote desktop - remove it,
>> update manager, user folder update - remove
>>
>> Thanks done all what you said
>
>
>> Also, I would remove the trash applet and any other applets in the panel
>> you don't use.
>>
>> i like trash there, but may be in the interest of speed it will be better
>
>
I dont know much about your initial question but have a few suggestions

   - Avoid startup services like  Apache, mysql, samba (Which most people
   use very rarely) to start at boot time.


   - Also if you are not using evolution (as many people dont use), remove
   it except evolution-data-server-common.


   - run *sudo apt-get autoremove*


   - Enlist all the softwares you dont use and remove them
   - during boot there is a key combination which shows verbose more of
   startup(I donno key combination) observe which takes more time and act upon
   that


there are some app i don't know much about
> like
> gnome keyring daemon
>

(This is as per my knol) Gnome Keyring daemon is a great tool to protect
your logins, like if you provide your login to empathy or thunderbird and so
on..., it will encrypt and protect with a single password either your login
password or some other password which you give for the first time. You can
change using "Password and encryption keys/Seahorse tool" tool.


> GNOME Settings Daemon Helper -
> /usr/lib/gnome-session/helpers/gnome-settings-daemon-helper
> Itca Client
> No Name - no description (no command as well)
> Print Queue applet
>
Print related services (I donno much)


> Screesaver
>

I dont know the use of this but if you stop this service, system power
management will not work as expected

Seahorse Daemon
>

I works with gnome keyring daemon

hope this helps


>
>
>
>
>> To monitor your progress, I suggest bootchart, it will make graphs of
>> boot in /var/log/bootchart.
>>
>>
> will chech this out
>
> **
> what about preventing apps from appearing the system tray without my asking
> them too - like rythm box, ktimer etc
>
> thanks
> ram
>
>> Enjoy,
>> Bryan
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[ubuntu-in] Clock . Stop Watch or count down timer applet

2010-03-01 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Hi

am searching for a count down timer applet - that enables making an alarm
after x (or n) number of minutes.

any tips

tried ktimer and ktime tracker

they don't do the job

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Reducing number of start up apps

2010-03-01 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Hi Bryan,

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Bryan Quigley wrote:

>
> Is there a way that  i can find and stop unnecessary apps from starting at
>> login time
>>
>
> There should definitely be some changes there that you can just remove
> depending on what you use.   No bluetooth remove that, No prop. drivers
> remove check for hardware drivers, don't use evolution uninstall it, not a
> laptop - remove power manager, not using remote desktop - remove it,
> update manager, user folder update - remove
>
> Thanks done all what you said


> Also, I would remove the trash applet and any other applets in the panel
> you don't use.
>
> i like trash there, but may be in the interest of speed it will be better

there are some app i don't know much about
like
gnome keyring daemon
GNOME Settings Daemon Helper -
/usr/lib/gnome-session/helpers/gnome-settings-daemon-helper
Itca Client
No Name - no description (no command as well)
Print Queue applet
Screesaver
Seahorse Daemon




> To monitor your progress, I suggest bootchart, it will make graphs of boot
> in /var/log/bootchart.
>
>
will chech this out

**
what about preventing apps from appearing the system tray without my asking
them too - like rythm box, ktimer etc

thanks
ram

> Enjoy,
> Bryan
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Reducing number of start up apps

2010-03-01 Thread Bryan Quigley
> Is there a way that  i can find and stop unnecessary apps from starting at
> login time
>

There should definitely be some changes there that you can just remove
depending on what you use.   No bluetooth remove that, No prop. drivers
remove check for hardware drivers, don't use evolution uninstall it, not a
laptop - remove power manager, not using remote desktop - remove it,
update manager, user folder update - remove

Also, I would remove the trash applet and any other applets in the panel you
don't use.

To monitor your progress, I suggest bootchart , it will make
graphs of boot in /var/log/bootchart.

Enjoy,
Bryan
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[ubuntu-in] Reducing number of start up apps

2010-03-01 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Hi

My start up after login is really slow,

seems like tonnes of apps are all starting up. Including beagle, which does
it standard indexing.

Is there a way that  i can find and stop unnecessary apps from starting at
login time

I tried to check system->preferrences -> start up app preferences

and made some changes there but am afraid to make more changes in case
something happens to the system and it breaks (normally i would have risked
it but my work is "mission critical and cannot afford to have my machine go
down just yet even for a short while)

Second - some apps - seem to make themselves permanently resident in the
system tray even though i don't want them there - like rythm box, ktimer
etc. Some of them can be configured to not appear on the system tray but
others don't have any option.

So any ideas on what i can do to
1. Stop such apps at start up
2. Stop apps from coming on the system tray without my specifying
3. Optimize login speed

would appreciate advise, tips and ideas

thanks
ram
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