Re: [ubuntu-in] Linux/Opensource Magazines

[Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan]

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Rohit R wrote:

> Friends, could you suggest some of the Linux/Opensource related Print
> Magazines available in India.
>
> Your verdicts and subscription fee info would be helpful too :)
>
> Hoping to hear from you,
>

LinuxForYou is a really good magazine. Specially their current series of
posts on securing apache (ie if it interests your field). I find it
abundantly in any magazine stalls around my city (which is a great!).
Also, I have read Linux journal a few times and found it kind of better but
the sad part is that getting it in print in India is difficult. Our college
library subscribes to it through some vendor but thats that. But their site
is a great free online magazine too:

http://www.linuxjournal.com/


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Re: [ubuntu-in] what constitutes Ubuntu (was: How to build one's own website )

[tabankg]

I Thank all of you Friends,for  keeping a Healthy atmosphere ,along with,
co-operative and freindly relations within this forum.
Everybody(members) has their right to post messages(may be sometimes
off-topic);nevertheless maintaing the forum rules.The best for all of us is
not to venge any ego or alter ego,as some of us are *truly experts/geeks and
some of us novices.*

*Now a question **ON TOPIC:*

**   I already have Ubuntu-10.10(64-bit) installed(rather upgraded from
10.04 version(64-bit))onto my machine.All is well,and running smoothly;
except for a peculiar glitch!!??(Maybe or maynot be).
Whenever, I press the letter "R" on the keyboard while typing(for a command
or password or whatsoever),the *Scroll lock* "LED" light goes on and the *Num
Lock *"LED" lights goes off.What is actually happening?Why this
peculiarity?Please help me out ,Friends.
I have to manually light on the "LED" of the *Num Lock* key,and
simultaneously the *Scroll Lock* "LED" goes off by itself.
No question of pressing the *Scroll Lock* key arises,whenever I boot onto my
Ubuntu-10.10 system,and thereafter logging in.

This peculiarity is not observed in openSUSE-10.3(64-bit)OS nor in Fedora
Core-14(32-bit) OS,both of which are installed in separate
partitions,alongside with Ubuntu-10.10(64-bit) OS,in the Hard Disk.

Please,Help me out.

Thank you all.
-kguha


On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Nitesh Mistry wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 05:31:03PM +0530, Narendra Diwate wrote:
> > With a few posts a day, we are no where near the threshold to worry about
> > OT.
> >
> > Please let the tribe of users grow, then we will worry about OT.
>
> Absolutely.
>
> But at the same time, its also good to share knowledge about good mailing
> list etiquettes to the existing participants.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] what constitutes Ubuntu (was: How to build one's own website )

[Nitesh Mistry]

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 05:31:03PM +0530, Narendra Diwate wrote:
> With a few posts a day, we are no where near the threshold to worry about
> OT.
> 
> Please let the tribe of users grow, then we will worry about OT.

Absolutely.

But at the same time, its also good to share knowledge about good mailing
list etiquettes to the existing participants.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] what constitutes Ubuntu (was: How to build one's own website )

[Nitesh Mistry]

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 05:04:12PM +0530, Ramnarayan.K wrote:
> Its because people are using Ubuntu as their main os and during the
> course of their use they have questions. Am not sure that people are
> registered for every single frigging forum / email list out there just
> because that is the narrow bandwidth within which one can get answers.

That _is_ the basic idea. Forum is for respective topic so that people
looking for advice/solution regarding that particular topic can search the
relevant forum.
 

> I would like to know how many forums one must be part of to address
> all our questions regarding our use of Ubuntu. That is my OS and
> anything i do with it is about Ubuntu, or are you trying to tell me
> that is not the case.

That is not the case (as you are interpreting). Suppose for example, I want
to know about which are good action movies so that I can watch them on my
Ubuntu pc. Should I be asking that question here, because I want watch that
movie using Ubuntu?

 
> Some days back there was a hectic discussion regarding use of
> GNU/Linux instead of Linux. (Of course no one said that was off topic
> ) but the gist was that Linux is broad and relevant and GNU/Linux was
> a narrow view point and that broad was preferable

Difficult to draw parallels. The discussion was about what nomenclature is
appropriate for general use. Nobody was arguing that Linux is broader than
GNU/Linux (personally, I am yet to know about any other type of Linux).

 
> I actually challenge anyone to say posting about asking about drupal
> and joomla and how to build a website is off topic. My OS is ubuntu,
> the tools i am talking about are available in Ubuntu repos what more
> do you seek - that every friggin second word should be friggin ubuntu.

Well, if your intention was to know about how to build a website using
tools provided by Ubuntu, I think your original post was lacking in
clarifying that aspect, which might have led to people thinking it was
off-topic.

 
> Its quite clear that people who scream "off topic"  are not consistent
> in what they think is off topic.
> 
>  - none of those folks who replied back to thwe websites thread said
> off topic to "asking about a linux magazine" or about searching for an
> indian email service. If asking about tools to build a website , on a
> friggin Ubuntu OS, is off topic,  then so are the above two.
> 
> I want to point out that for me these two mails (about a linux mag and
> about a indian email service are acceptable, want to why - because
> these folks are by and large part of the community - and they (we
> think) we have the freedom and the right and the faith to ask
> something that we feel our "friends" on the Ubuntu community might
> know about.

Please don't think that you were targeted personally. It just seems that
yours was one of the first in that series, so naturally, it was the one
replied to. I believe whatever was told to you does apply to other threads
as well.


> **
> To further add - if we start applying the various off topic rules the
> only people who will be left on this list are those developing ubuntu
> software and employed by canonical or something like. The rest are
> always going to be off topic.

Not necessarily. There would be many things to discuss by the users, like
some hardware not working with Ubuntu, or problems regarding
updating/upgrading software, organising events to promote Ubuntu in India,
introducing yourself and getting to know other Ubuntu users, etc.

Having said all this, I don't think "off-topic" messages are unwelcome.
There are topics which, though not related to Ubuntu, a user might think
appropriate to ask here, maybe because he/she thinks the other subscribers
on the list are knowledgeable about. And its alright to ask such questions
here, but with a "[OT]" tag desirably, so that someone who wants to skip
such topics can do so conveniently.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] what constitutes Ubuntu (was: How to build one's own website )

[Narendra Diwate]

I have just had a cursory glance at the daily mails that i get from this
mailing list - About 2-3 a day. Thats too low for us to start worrying about
things going off-topic. Hell, you might scare away newbies that hope to
learn something unrelated to Redmond, if you stick to this Ubuntu-Only.

BTW, What is Ubuntu? Just the customisations that make Linux+ look the way
it does.

What about all the apps - either preinstalled or available in the repos.

If someone asks on the forum, pl *teach* me GIMP/ HTML editing, we can say
this is OT, but someone asking for a laptop that works with Linux, or which
Photo editing software to use, or which editor or email client, or how to
recover data from a bricked Win OS using Linux, I think as long as it is
closely related to Linux/FOSS, should be fine and not considered OT.

With a few posts a day, we are no where near the threshold to worry about
OT.

Please let the tribe of users grow, then we will worry about OT.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] what constitutes Ubuntu (was: How to build one's own website )

[Ramnarayan.K]

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Jkhatri  wrote:
> On Saturday 12 February 2011 11:22 AM, Ramnarayan.K wrote:
>
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:00 AM, maillistindia 
> wrote:
>
> Apart from that, this mailing list is only for Ubuntu. Not for other
> queries.
>
> am thinking there is a serious problem of what people's understanding
> of Ubuntu is.
>
> +1
>
> I've noticed that people are talking much related to general topic like
> suggesting laptops , building websites and sometime to open E-mail address
> !! etc...
>  instead Ubuntu/Linux stuff,  strange . It is strange because this list
> is dedicated to and made for Ubuntu related stuff, quires , technical
> problem solving [ I think so , correct me if ].
>
> Its ok , sometime( Note-not regularly ) if you wanna talk to on something
> like other topics ( general ), one should/must  write/mention  the [OT]
> Off-Topic in subject line of the mail

Have you looked at what all people do post and why

Its because people are using Ubuntu as their main os and during the
course of their use they have questions. Am not sure that people are
registered for every single frigging forum / email list out there just
because that is the narrow bandwidth within which one can get answers.

I would like to know how many forums one must be part of to address
all our questions regarding our use of Ubuntu. That is my OS and
anything i do with it is about Ubuntu, or are you trying to tell me
that is not the case.

Some days back there was a hectic discussion regarding use of
GNU/Linux instead of Linux. (Of course no one said that was off topic
) but the gist was that Linux is broad and relevant and GNU/Linux was
a narrow view point and that broad was preferable

I actually challenge anyone to say posting about asking about drupal
and joomla and how to build a website is off topic. My OS is ubuntu,
the tools i am talking about are available in Ubuntu repos what more
do you seek - that every friggin second word should be friggin ubuntu.

Its quite clear that people who scream "off topic"  are not consistent
in what they think is off topic.

 - none of those folks who replied back to thwe websites thread said
off topic to "asking about a linux magazine" or about searching for an
indian email service. If asking about tools to build a website , on a
friggin Ubuntu OS, is off topic,  then so are the above two.

I want to point out that for me these two mails (about a linux mag and
about a indian email service are acceptable, want to why - because
these folks are by and large part of the community - and they (we
think) we have the freedom and the right and the faith to ask
something that we feel our "friends" on the Ubuntu community might
know about.

**
To further add - if we start applying the various off topic rules the
only people who will be left on this list are those developing ubuntu
software and employed by canonical or something like. The rest are
always going to be off topic.

ram

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Looking for a Free Indian Email Account

[Chethan S]

>
>  I am actually looking for a free Indian mail account.  The amount
> of mail that I am sending is extremely light -- perhaps just a fiew
> messages.
>

You could try http://india.com/. They have totally revamped their service
you get a nice email id @india.com. You  can even join their editorial team
and even become a freelancer.

Regards,

Chethan S.


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