Ubuntu Studio 10.04 upgrade report comments
Hi All, First a quick response to the chief dev's thread. I would agree with comments about use-ability. If the intent is to provide a tool to accomplish a task, some assembly required is ok. But, if the assembly replaces the task... Learning curve is a different issue and is to be expected with any complicated tool. This becomes even more important if it is your livelihood or the customer is sitting idle while you try to minimize xruns or fiddle with permissions. That said, UBS has been improving with each release and I applaud the work that moves it along. Now my upgrade report: I had a working system with UB 9.04 with Studio package installed running for about a year. Later in the year I upgraded to 9.10. In order to get no xruns I was using a kernel built by Luke McNeil. I have now done a fresh install of UBS 10.04. After fooling with some permission issues with JACK and ffado, I got things running to the point I could set up a test. I fired up Ardour, added 24 tracks, auto attached to the 24 ports on my AF12's. Armed all channels and recorded for over an hour with only 1 xrun. I may be able to tweak some setting in qjackctl and maybe get to 0 xruns. Great job guys! Regards, Mac === EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ === -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
General ?'s about UBStudio 10.04
Hi, Just looking at updating from 9.10 to 10.04 and was wondering... - has 10.04 got an rt kernel? - has 10.04 incorporated the new firewire stack? - does ffado use the ne firwire stack? - does 10.04 have the latest ffado, jack, and Ardour? Mac === EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ === -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: not sure where to ask this question, about the audio production possibilities...
At Tuesday, 30 March 2010, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 30.03.2010 01:45, schrieb mac: On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 01:30 +0200, Hartmut Noack wrote: Hi from the Ardour web page: Non-destructive, non-linear editing with unlimited undo What you describe above is indeed modifying the recording, I don't believe it is considered destructive editing. As I said: it comes near the thing, that is known as destructive editing yet it is not the very same. Audacity will allow the wave form to be edited on a per sample basis, actually changing the value of the sample at will. I believe this is considered destructive editing. True: you cannot zoom to the single-sample level in Ardour and thus you cannot edit single samples. So, if you need to diminish a single sample, because it is broken, you would need to paint a curve, that manipulates ca 20 samples. Audacity allows such tricks, the question is: what do you need? Having an editor, that is completely non-destructive has its charme sometimes, especially if you want to use processor-plugins like compressors or eqalization. Bit for such things Audacity is a no-go anyways, for it cannot play the sound as you set the parameters, you want to apply. So for special editing-tasks Audacity is only rivaled by SND, yet for the majority of things you will want to do with recordings, Ardour has much more to offer. Both are great, free programs and it Audacity would only fit smoothly into jack, it would be highly recommendable best regs HZN I believe this from the wikipedia on the subject describes Ardour's functionality as a non-destructive editor: ...non-destructive editing is a form of editing signals where the original content is not modified in the course of editing - instead the edits themselves are edited. A pointer-based playlist effectively an edit decision list is used to keep track of edits. Each time the edited audio or video is played back or accessed, it is reconstructed from the original source and the EDL. Although this process is more computationally intensive than rendering each edit, changing the edits themselves can be almost instantaneous, and it prevents further generation loss as the audio or video is edited. ... While Audacity does have undo it does not operate in the manor described above. Both great tools, just different. Mac === EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ === -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: not sure where to ask this question, about the audio production possibilities...
At Monday, 29 March 2010, Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.de wrote: Am 29.03.2010 16:52, schrieb Brian David: On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:11 PM, G L Romeu rom...@comcast.net wrote: I have been on the graphics end of computers, everything from photo through layout to 3d for cad/cam, and therefore my initial interest in studio. *SNIP* Many people will recommend Audacity, particularly for beginners. But trust me, if you plan on getting into Ubuntu Studio and Linux audio for the long haul, Ardour is the program you'll want to use. That is absolutely correct! Audacity is a nice Editor but not a capable recorder/arranger. Ardour has all, one needs to work fluently and with minimum limitations with musicians, that simply want to record and arrange/mix music. And it can do everything you would do with Audacity as well. Thanks Jack you can even run Ardour synched to a videoplayer and thus work on soundtracks as the big boys would do ;-) Speaking of Ardour, I noticed there's a good change they won't reach their fundraising goals over at Ardour.org this month. So, as a reminder to all you audio enthusiasts: If you're on this list and you use Ardour regularly and you're not a subscriber, you should seriously consider supporting the program financially. I second that strongly. Go for it and tell your friends :-) -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu- studio-users Can you actually do destructive editing with Ardour at this point? Mac === EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ === -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: waiting for professional grade
At Friday, 4 December 2009, you wrote: There is only one thing I do not understand.why are people wanting PROFESSIONALY graded software, If they dont want to learn and how to use itIF it is PRO, IT IS OBVIOUS that it will have a lot of function. I think people ask to much... OR it is simple or it is pro. snip 2009/12/4 Brian King baking...@gmail.com I think a lot of frustration comes from the whole experience rather than a particular software application. By that I mean, learning to use the functionality of, say, Ardour, is different from needing to learn how to build the kernel in order to get to point where one can begin to learn Ardour. (Imagine if everyone had to learn how to culture yeast before they could enjoy a good beer...) In truth, free software does, indeed, have a price...you need to learn a bit of computer geekness. ;-) === EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ === -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Alternatives to using JACK
At Tuesday, 1 December 2009, you wrote: Audacity can work in a non-Jack mode and it's an excellent piece of software. But without Jack, you're seriously limiting yourself since most developers are going to want to use Jack when developing new and existing projects. Perhaps a better (albeit more difficult) option would be to work out your problems with regards to getting Jack working on your system. Build your system, get it working, and write down each step you took. Then tear down your system, build it again, and apply your steps. If you can get the process broken down into some kind of checklist, then you can most likely automate it with a Bash script or something. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:40 AM, lrspares45 lrspare...@aol.com wrote: Hi all, is there an alternative way to record guitar on Ubuntu that doesn't rely on JACK? I ask as I've spent two weeks trying to get JACK based apps running, and though I've managed to get it working twice, the next time I start the computer I effectively have to start all over again. This is no good for public performance! But why are the settings not sticky? They certainly are on the 3 systems I've built. Mac === EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ === -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Ubuntu Studio 9.10 Karmic Koala
At Thursday, 29 October 2009, you wrote: Ubuntu Studio is a multimedia editing/creation flavor of Ubuntu, built for the GNU/Linux audio, video, and graphics enthusiast or professional. http://www.ubuntustudio.org The Ubuntu Studio team is proud to announce its sixth release: Ubuntu Studio 9.10 Karmic Koala. With this release, which you can download in a 1.4GB DVD, Ubuntu Studio offers a pre-made selection of packages, targeted at audio producers, video producers and graphic designers. Ubuntu Studio greatly simplifies the Linux-based multimedia workstation. I poked around on the web but haven't found anything definitive. Is ffado using the new stack with this release? Mac === EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ === -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Ubuntu Studio 9.10 Karmic Koala
At Thursday, 29 October 2009, greg loyse gregorylo...@gmail.com wrote: FFADO doesn't work with the new firewire stack (called juju): http://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Juju_Migration#Compatibility_and_stability FFADO support for the new stack is far in the future: http://subversion.ffado.org/milestone/FFADO%203.0 My understanding is that if the Ubuntu 9.10 RT kernel was compiled using the new stack (you can choose which one when you compile), FFADO (and therefore firewire audio devices) won't be supported with this kernel. If my understanding is correct, doesn't that make packaging FFADO in practice redundent? I am not a pro so not totally sure I have grasped all the issues here. However this is the result of 3 years of owning (and in the main failing) to get a Edirl FA-66 device to work. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Eric Hedekar aftertheb...@gmail. com wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Mac McIlvaine sue...@empire. net wrote: At Thursday, 29 October 2009, you wrote: Ubuntu Studio is a multimedia editing/creation flavor of Ubuntu, built for the GNU/Linux audio, video, and graphics enthusiast or professional. http://www.ubuntustudio.org The Ubuntu Studio team is proud to announce its sixth release: Ubuntu Studio 9.10 Karmic Koala. With this release, which you can download in a 1.4GB DVD, Ubuntu Studio offers a pre-made selection of packages, targeted at audio producers, video producers and graphic designers. Ubuntu Studio greatly simplifies the Linux-based multimedia workstation. I poked around on the web but haven't found anything definitive. Is ffado using the new stack with this release? Mac Unfortunately I believe ffado still is using the old stack (or at least the karmic packages still use the old stack). But the new stack is now in place for when ffado wants to use it. -Eric -- I have the old stack running with 9.0.4 ...I remember having to take special steps to replace the juju stack with the old stack. That and a special compile of the RT kernel to get xrun free use of my AF12's. Mac === EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ === -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Ubuntu Studio 9.10 Karmic Koala ffado
At Thursday, 29 October 2009, -Eric wrote: NO. The firewire stack in Karmic is backward compatible. I played a show with my Firepod last week on the Karmic Release Candidate. FFADO WORKS GREAT in Karmic. To quote from that first link of yours: For now, FireWire audio users need to continue to work with the old drivers, to which libraw1394 v2 will remain fully compatible. The immediate benefit of the new 2.0 firewire stack (from what I understand) is for Video devices. Audio devices will see this benefit when FFADO's drivers are migrated to the new stack. -Eric A so libraw1394 is just there. That's cool...is that how it was in 9.04? Mac === EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ === -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Ubuntu and Linux Open Source mentioned on BBC - this is getting big
How well does Ubuntu run XP in a virtual box? I have a couple of programs that use sound and midi heavily and would like to find a way to use them. I'm looking for ways because on new machines with only sata, my old XP cd won't load and I've been unsuccessful at slipstreaming the XP CD. At Wednesday, 28 October 2009, you wrote: On Oct 28, 2009 5:53am, aYo Binitie ayobini...@googlemail.com wrote: I never use Wine - if you really need Windows software run it in VitualBox running windows. The truth is that most Windows users are bound to habit and really expect Windowlike behaviour from a different OS. I found the differences in using Ubuntu a bit iffy at forst but, was so discouraged but my Windows experience that I percevered. Thank goodness for that. I sometimes cannot believe how much of an Ubuntu evangelist I have becomeI agree. Most Windows users have become blind to the fact that Windows, compared to Ubuntu, is actually a much harder system to learn. It's just that they all learned Windows out of necessity and are now used to it. They call it easy to use, I call it 'Microsoft forcing you to deal with their crap. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu- studio-users === EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ === -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Re: recording vocals
I absolutely agree with recent comments about 64bit. While Hardy 8.04 was a good release, I have installed or upgraded several machines running to 9.04 32bit with excellent results. My current recording machine has 9.04, rt kernel and I use both Firepods and Audiofire12's. At Thursday, 08 October 2009, beej...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 8, 2009 9:50am, Andrew Oikle aoi...@gmail.com wrote: Stick to 32 bit for audio. 64 bit has absolutely zero benefit for recording. Benchmarks show that in some cases 64 bit can underperform 32 bit and it's only beneficial to extreme number crunching scientists that need that level of precision, and also for gigantic databases. Selling 64 bit processors to consumers was a scam to trick people into upgrading their computers... again. I repeat, 64 bit has practically no use for consumer use or audio recording. Does anyone here disagree? Andrew Austin, TX I'm not too familiar with some of the technical details, but I believe you are correct in saying that, at this point, 64-bit seems largely useless to the average user, particularly as far as audio goes.When it comes to versions of Ubuntu, I have personally found that Hardy is far and away the most stable and efficient OS of the current Ubuntu releases. This applies to my computer, though, and your mileage may vary. I am looking forward to Karmic, and hope that it solves some of the many problems I've been having with the Jaunty RT kernel (and, no, I do not know how to compile my own kernels. Maybe one day).Jason, as for a good set-up that gives you no noise, if you're going to need to buy some kind of pre-amp/DI or audio-interface as well as a mic, you will have a hard time keeping it under $200.. But it is possible. When I first started recording, I used a very cheap $60 Behringer mixer (which came with two channels that could be used as pre-amps, and phantom power which I did not need at the time.) and a used $50 EV dynamic mic. I ran the mic into the mixer, and then ran the mixer's RCA tape-out direclty into my computer's on-board soundcard, using an RCA to 1/8 cable. Whenever I listen back to those recordings, I am actually surprised that they sound fairly decent. I guess the moral of this story is that $200 won't get you anything 'nice', but it should get you something that will work, and probably fairly well.By the way, what equipment do you have right now? That will help in coming up with recommendations for what to get. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu- studio-users === EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ === -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Ardour2 question
At Monday, 05 October 2009, you wrote: I have two computers running Ardour2. One is running Ardour 2.7.1 on Gentoo, the second is running Ardour 2.3 on Ubuntu. There are some differences in the editor UI which I'd like to reconcile. Any help will be appreciated. In the 2nd installation, Ardour 2.3, the playhead cursor (vertical line) extends only up to the bottom of the ruler stack. On the 2nd, the playhead cursor extends all the way to the top. I would like to have the option to change this behavior easily. In the 2nd installation, left-clicking on the Range Markers ruler creates a selected range between the two nearest location markers. This is very handy, but I can't reproduce this behavior on the Ardour 2.7.1, having tried control and other meta keys along with mouse clicks, with no luck. Can this be changed somehow, or is it a feature that was upgraded out of the program between the two releases? Is there a better documentation source for Ardour than the one at ardour.stackingdwarves.net? This is woefully incomplete. -- I'd post these questions on the Ardour forum or on the Ardour IRC. The Ardour dev is usually around there. The doc at the site you mention is under construction, so it is indeed incomplete, the site mentioned in another reply is pretty cursory as well. I don't think either is meant to be a user manual or tutorial, but are meant to be reference docs. I have found a few tutorial videos over at Vimeo to be helpful. But, I've found hanging out on the Ardour IRC chan. listening and askiong question to be very useful. Regards, Mac === EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ === -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Laptop for UbuntuStudio
At Monday, 27 July 2009, Gustin wrote: snip My experiences lead me to disagree with you both with respect to GPU choice. nVidia is the last choice for graphics IMO. Intel graphics and wireless drivers are open source and the required kernel modules are built into the default kernel and X. No need to mess around with the restricted drivers or manually installing the nVidia driver. Also, the nVidia binary driver has misbehaved under RT kernels. I have had similar experiences. snip I also have a serious hate on for firewire, so I will never buy a firewire device (I have lots of reasons for this, but that is a discussion for another time). I will say that I would be careful about investing in firewire, since I have seen a couple of laptops recently that did not have a firewire port. Just for another view on firewire: I have just recorded 6 performances with 22 channels input on firewire. Worked fine. That said, firewire with anything but the TI chipset seems hopeless. Mac === EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ === -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
