Re: [ubuntu-art] Ky?d?: Audience and Message
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 12:31 +0200, Giuseppe Pennisi wrote: Il giorno sab, 27/09/2008 alle 17.05 -0400, Vadim Peretokin ha scritto: There is a fork of Cinerella, called Linerella or something like that. But yeah, movie editing for the average human on Linux is out of reach, unless you're a Hollywood movie studio. But I don't even want to know the prices on that software. Has anyone heard about Diva? It's a video editor for the GNOME desktop. Check it out: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1335 Regards, -Nicholas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] GTK theme help
Looks almost better than the original mockup! Although the scroll bars are a bit blocky or squared or maybe big, but don't fit (for me) the overall appearance of the theme. Another point is the borderless version of the theme included in the tar.gz . The border is 1 px wide while the older version of Dust has no border at all( real borderless) Pic: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/177221/Pantallazo-1.png -- Jos? Luis Ric?n [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMO, no-pixel boarders are horrible because they are such a pain to resize and almost kill the usability of the theme. One pixel boarders (at least) are great. Nicholas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 28
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:37:30 -0400 From: Danny Piccirillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] New Theme every LTS release To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Okay i think i understand. Do you see any problem with getting new themes included? Or perhaps a lack of effort creating new themes? There seem to be lots of mockups that everybody loves, but aren't being turned into themes. Why is this?I love ubuntu, but i think it needs a lot of work on the interface, 'look and feel' and speed (although that's unrelated). Do you think the current system is fine? Should it change or should something be done to make the system work better? There is certainly *not* a lack of effort in creating new themes. I suggest you check out Dust, Shiki-Ubuntu, Kin Tonic, New Wave and some of the other great themes the community has created. Yes, there are a lot of mock-ups * everyone* loves, Dust is one of them and its being developed (it also looks brilliant, I might add). You seem fairly uninformed over the next few statements, there are lots of community themes here, as I previously said. Regards, Nicholas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Folder Icon challenge.
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 12:27:40 +0200 From: Yann D?nendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Folder Icon challenge. To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 What about this one? It looks great! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Icons_-_Art_Team?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=troyfoldericon.png Yann D?nendal Yeah, I've seen that one 'round. Great, isn't it? As for names, so long as we're going about something to do with wind, air and oxygen. How about *Zephyr* which is English for a gentle breeze. Nicholas Kraak -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust theme implementation
Most the comments from the theme so far have been that looks like OSX and that's not Ubuntu. Here's something to address that, I think. Might I suggest an alternate color scheme which would be more Ubuntu-like: http://dump.ambiescent.com/i/dust-color-1a.png http://dump.ambiescent.com/i/dust-color-1b.png Looks good, might I suggest though, changing that pressed in tab on the second screenshot (where it says rsc) to a lighter, fresher orange (eg; * #FC9523*). Many of the people who dislike the current pallet rather orange over brown. Otherwise, it looks great. Dust is a wonderful theme. -Nicholas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
Other things that could be changed is making menu items/selected base lighter, with dark text. I'll leave those changes up to the opinions I receive. Also, I think I could improve the metacity titlebar further, since it's no longer unified and doesn't need to blend in with the menubar. Yeah, with the hovered menu items (where the background goes that orange colour), the text should be black. It's too hard to read at the moment. Also, it might be an idea to make your orange colour a bit more orange and less yellow, that's just my opinion though. Other then that, your improvements look brilliant! Keep up the good job, Nicholas (LostOverThere) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] More Mockups
New batch, I tried to get everyones ideas in here. The only thing I did differently from the suggestions was the buttons, the gray background to them just made it all feel more solid. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_kith_r2.png http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_clouds_r2.png http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_rocks_r2.png http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/raraken/kin_piano_trnthtfrnupsddwn_r2.png Sorry Ken, it looks brilliant but I'm not too fond of those buttons. Perhaps something similar to New Wave (but obviously with a brown button background and maybe even a dark brown button outline). In my personal opinion, the buttons should be easily visible, but not so visible they constantly draw the users eye to them. But obviously that's just my two cents. Other then that keep up the fine work, Nicholas PS: If you want me to draw a mock-up of what I mean, just ask. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] More Mockups
Hey Ken, Just a quick comment that these look brilliant. In terms of background, Piano is my favourite. It already looks great, as its stylish, its warm, its Ubuntu and I'm confident this is on its way to becoming what Mark was envisioning. The thing people have to be careful about when developing a theme which has a title-bar colour that is drastically different from the rest of the window is to soften the appearance. Too little contrast makes the title-bar drift into the background and the whole window just seem messy, while too much contrast is uneasy on the eyes. [If] Once you get further into developing these themes, I'd recommend a gradient from the title bar to the rest of the window (See Linux Mint GNOME Edition, particularly their Nautilus). This softens the appearance and helps lead the eye around the window. Hope that made sense, -Nicholas (LostOverThere) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dark Ubuntu Proposal
Care to elaborate? I'm pretty new to the list so I haven't really seen too much come and go, but as far as dark themes go that looks pretty polished to me. To me its just too dark. I always used to have this habit of Oh My God! A Dark theme!!! AWESOME!!! but after about 30 minutes of using it I find my eyes are straining and in terms of usability it just doesn't work. Although this seems pretty to glance at, I can't imagine it would be very flexible or, like I said, usable. Plus it really pushes the human colours (orange and brown) out of the way. The Human Colours are Ubuntu and Ubuntu are The Human Colours. Obviously, that's just my opinion and you don't have to agree with it of course. Thanks for posting it though, Nicholas (LostOverThere) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] GTK-theme proposal
Hi everybody, I wordking on the details of the theme, and I was able to create nice comboboxentry-widgets. I attached a screenshot where one can see the difference. That's all, ~Kim Kahns (Kimmik) That new comboboxentry-widget looks great. Nice work, -Nicholas (LostOverThere) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 37, Issue 54
Ubuntu Art Team- I have been doing some thinking about the color of the theme, the buttons, etc. I also was thinking about some things that Mark Shuttleworth told me and things he has said in interviews regarding the desktop of Ubuntu. He has said that it is something that needs work on , something that we need to improve to the point of being the Golden Standard, something that he currently believes rests in Apple's hands with OS X. I will agree with him. We need a theme that meets, improves upon, and is superior to OS X's strong points. What are things people like about it? They like its seamless, integrated, and unified design. What are things we can do to help Ubuntu do this? (The following are just my thoughts- carefully thought out and considered as my own opinion I fell free to share) Color - Our current theme uses a mix of a light grey and a medium brown. This combo lends itself to looking outdated or out of fashion. Ubuntu is an operating system, a tech product- we want it to look modern, and with Ubuntu in particular, we want it to look forward. Mark thinks it is necessary to retain the Orange/Brown look of Ubuntu - we can do this in ways other than trying to make the Gtk widgets and panels these colors. I have seen many brown colors, created many gradients, and brown just doesn't seem right as a panel color or window color. I think that we need something that is neutral, yet looks beautiful and futuristic ( not as in robots and the Jetsons, but more like a true futuristic look). We also want Ubuntu to look unique. Therefore black as in Vista and grey as in OS X are taken. What is left besides brown? What is Ubuntu? Nothing in the logo will work. What about what we have? Its a much lighter grey than OS X - why not make it lighter, say to an off white? There is a way to do it where it does not feel cold, or is too bright. Just a thought. One of my favourite thing's about Ubuntu's colour scheme is how unlike other operating systems where they use a cold colour scheme (Windows, Mac OS X), Ubuntu sticks with a warm colour scheme. Also, in terms of professionalism, in my opinion Orange is a much more vibrant, exciting look rather then brown. Take a look at the Personificationhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Personificationtheme ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Personification ). Although the theme itself looks pretty sloppy, I feel the colour scheme looks good. But I agree with you, Ubuntu is not up to scratch in terms of looks. I remember showing someone the default screenshots of Ubuntu and they were not impressed at all. I'm currently looking at some screenshots of Mac OS X 10.5, and I can see why Mac users love it so much. The desktop is truly a work of art. Nicholas (LostOverThere) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] GTK-theme proposal
Hi folks, I spoke with salane about creating a gtk-theme. As a result I created a wiki page for that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_GTK_proposal What do you think about using the pixmap engine? Maybe this approach at creating a theme works and we get a good theme at the end, maybe then it could be used as default theme or at least be included as an alternative to the old theme. ~Kim Kahns (Kimmik) Your theme is a good start Kimmik, but it really is too similar to Human, and looks a little clunky as well, which is one of the main problems with Human in my opinion. Also, the orange colour isn't orange enough IMO, try something similar more deep and rich. Cheers, -Nicholas (LostOverThere) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 37, Issue 40
Kith is looking great! I'd personally describe the current colour as being not to dissimilar to condensed milk, or in less blunt terms more Peachy. I must admit though, the thing that annoys me most about Kith is there is no colour distinction between the window title bar and the navigation bar (back, forward, etc.). Now, there are a number of ways to fix this, the obvious being make the title bar darker, to draw the eye to it. Drawing the eye to the title bar is more important then people think, without it, the user's eyes will become lost. The second way to fix this is to make the navigation bar only slightly lighter, but add a gradient to it (Linux Mint Gnome Edition does thishttp://linuxmint.com/img/screenshots/elyssa/firefox.png ). Salane mentioned that both Orange and Brown look a bit shabby. In my personal opinion, one of the most beautiful, attractive colour's is when Brown is mixed with Orange. (Such as in the Personification themehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Personification). Other then that I think Kith is well on its way to becoming a fantastic theme. Regards, Nicholas (LostOverThere) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 37, Issue 34
In terms of this Kith-Kith Mockup, I appreciate the colour scheme. It's calm yet beautiful. However the contrast between the title bars of the windows and the windows themself are fair to little. The titlebar should be a darker shade to draw the eye towards it, otherwise the eye is lost in the window. That of course is just my way of thinking. Regards, Nicholas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 36, Issue 9
Hi, me again, I was just curious, is the Ubuntu Artwork team responsible for start-up and shut-down sounds? If not, who is? Regards, -Nicholas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 91
In terms of the New Wave theme, I think when a window is inactive, that dark grey bar at the top (the titlebar and the area around it) should be a lighter colour for readability purposes. The out of inactive windows stands out way to and is just distracting at the moment. For example, have a look at what the current Ubuntu theme (and most others) do when a window is inactive. We should implant this in New Wave. http://www.vulomedia.com/images/87807nautilusgvfs.jpg Also, I don't particularly like the Firefox/Nautilus buttons in New Look for the navigation, the icons for everything else look wonderful but the navigation buttons (forward, back, etc.) Just don't suit the theme. Otherwise, keep up the good work. :) -Nicholas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 94
Sorry, I really really dislike the Human Murrine Dark theme. The brown background is such an eyesore and its way to busy. Also, remember the majority of the population dislike dark themes, New Wave by passes this problem because all that's dark is the title bar, and the background is light. I'm sorry for my tough comments but I must be honest. Sorry, -Nicholas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 65
In terms of gradients, I really like what Linux Mint has done to soften the transition where a window (Nautilus for example) has a very dark colour next to a very light colour. Have a look at this image I've scribbled on. http://www.vulomedia.com/images/481402.png Notice the gradient helps to soften the look considerably. -Nicholas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 49
In terms of Usplash, someone mentioned a smooth splash screen similar to the Mac OS X startup splash where the loading bar moves smoothly. We may not be able to do that much be our usplash seriously needs changing, its ugly as hell. You may consider looking at Fedora's and OpenSuSE's spash screen, both are very smooth and beautiful. However, if we're going to stick to something simple, I quite like Linux Mint'shttp://blog.typpz.com/wp-content/linmin1.jpgSplash screen. Any thoughts? -Nicholas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 49
Sorry for the double post, but here's Fedora's and OpenSuSE's bootsplash. http://media.arstechnica.com/news.media/450/fedora_boot.png http://media.arstechnica.com/news.media/450/opensuse_boot.png Here are some Ubuntu Brainstorm idea's supporting usplash changes with various other ideas: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/5671/ http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/5953/ Regards, -Nicholas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 18
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 16:45:03 +0200 From: Max [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ubuntu-art] Caramel Gummy To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 this theme was proposed for hardy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/SzerencsefiaGTKIdea it use the xl_cheeselook engine. i think it is really nice, and based with an already working engine (that is also supposed to be fast). this is the original deviant art page. i'm new of the ubuntu art wiki and i don't know how to create new pages, but i think it should be addedd a page for this theme in the intrepid incoming artwork page Max I'm really not a fan of that theme at all, sorry but it just looks quite dark, boring and tacky in my opinion. Of course, that's just my 2 cents anyway. NewWave seems to be coming along nicely, but we mustn't forget the human colours. The human orange/brown is what defines us, and makes us original. If its one thing I want with 8.10 is to make sure we keep our heritage, our Orange and Browns. Regards, -Nicholas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 17
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 22:04:14 +0200 From: N. Ipsen(Sephiroth_VII) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Ideas To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 We really need to use either the Discovery icon theme, or create a new one. The default icons are getting old, and will(hopefully) look very outdated in Intrepid. I agree, I talk to a lot of people about Ubuntu and you have no idea how many people ask Why don't they get decent icons? I second we use the Discovery icon pack too. -Nicholas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 14
Although I believe we'll be having a meeting soon about what engine to base our new theme on. I fully agree with Martin about Murrine, it does seem a lot quicker. Linux Mint's default theme also uses Murrine. -Nicholas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 13
NewWave seems to be coming along nicely. However I'm still not sure about the grey against the white, the grey looks lovely by itself but against that white it just feels a little strange. What I do like though is the non-rounded corners, rounded corners are so old now. Regards, -Nicholas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 8
Hi! I made this mockup today: http://www.info.fundp.ac.be/~fde/ubuntu_intrepid.jpghttp://www.info.fundp.ac.be/%7Efde/ubuntu_intrepid.jpg http://www.info.fundp.ac.be/%7Efde/ubuntu_intrepid.jpg It is not complete, and I'm not sure if the icons are the best choice, but this is pretty close to what I'd like Ubuntu to look like, especially the taskbars. Fran?ois, that theme is really nice! The black and white monocoloured icons work great on the top menu bar. My only suggestion would be to not make Applications, Places and System fonts in bold. I'm starting to think we can make a theme that pleases both people who like dark and light themes by mixing the Ubuntu Orange colours with dark menu bars which is both attractive and easy on the eye. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 6
Who cares about top posting? Why don't we get back to work.* :) * Has anyone come up with anything yet? I thought the discovery theme posted yesterday was absolutely brilliant. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 35, Issue 6
Good work with the Wiki. Does the Discovery theme have a page yet? AFAIK its come the furthest so far. http://bomahy.nl/hylke/blog/extending-discovery/ Hylke Bons has done an amazing job with it. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
