[ubuntu-studio-devel] MuseScore 4

[Paul DeShaw]

Greetings,

Are there any plans to put the latest MuseScore version into the
repository? Or should I just install it directly from musescore.org? I'm
running last year's LTS--it's gotten so slow and glitchy I am reluctant to
upgrade--so maybe that's why Synaptic isn't showing the latest MuseScore.

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[ubuntu-studio-users] JACK suddenly broke

[Paul DeShaw]

Hello,

I'm still running 16.04. JACK was working fine until today's update from
Ubuntu Studio, then it stopped; here's what the message window says:

14:13:38.855 Statistics reset.

14:13:38.910 ALSA connection change.

14:13:39.272 D-BUS: Service is available (org.jackaudio.service aka
jackdbus).

Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory

Cannot connect to server request channel

jack server is not running or cannot be started

JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295,
skipping unlock

JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for 4294967295,
skipping unlock


What should I check first?


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Optical Drive Workaround

[Paul DeShaw]

Kenneth Koym koy...@gmail.com wrote:


 Paul, can't follow this instruction w/o more; going from placescomputer, I
 find the following: computer:///750%20GB%20Hard%20Disk.drive
 computer:///750%20GB%20Hard%20Disk-1.drive
 computer:///CompactFlash%20Drive.drive
 computer:///Floppy%20Drive.drive
 computer:///MemoryStick%20Drive.drive
 computer:///SecureDigital%20Drive.drive
 computer:///SmartMedia%20Drive.drive
 computer:///root.link
 Apologies, have a meeting in minutes from now... Back later to try the work
 around.
 Ken


Hello Ken,

Did you open up your box and move the jumper on the optical drive?  All the
documentation on the HP 840d says it should be on the slave setting, but
this apparently hasn't worked since Hardy, according to that article in
Launchpad.  Pull it out and put it on the Cable Select setting. That
worked for me.

IIRC you have a laptop?  That may be more difficult.  The Launchpad article
was about a specific drive for tower cases, so it might be a moot point.

I'm curious to know if other optical drives need this same setting.  If your
drive works, and you're willing, open up your computer and check the jumper
on your CD/DVD drive.  Your hardware can run cooler if you get out the
vacuum and clean off the cooling fins, so might as well check that jumper
while you're in there.


 On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Paul DeShaw pauldes...@gmail.com
 wrotesnip:
 ...I saw a tab open to this page:
 
  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/49921
 
 ...the above link has a workaround: change the jumper from
  slave to cable select, which AFAIK should be the wrong setting,
  but it works...

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Re: Non-coder contribution: hardware testing

[Paul DeShaw]

Hello,

I saw this tab open in my browser and it had a workaround:

https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/49921

It said to switch the jumper on the drive to cable select.  I can't
find the message that sent me that link; but I think it was someone on
ubuntu-studio-users; or else it was a link from one of the pages from
Kirko's links.  I noticed in the above Launchpad question that Ubuntu
Studio was not mentioned, so maybe it is more general.  Puzzling that
Ubuntu can find the drive when booted from a USB stick.

Back to Ubuntu Studio 10.04 booted from the hard drive: The CD/DVD
drive still does not appear in the Places menu, but it is in
PlacesComputer.  If I put an audio CD in, Audio Disk appears in both
the Places menu and the PlacesComputer file browser window.  If I
right-click on the Audio Disk in the Places menu, I get this error:
Could not open location 'cdda://sr0/'
 Failed to exexute child process sound-juicer (no such file or directory)

Right-clicking in the Placescomputer file browser window opens a
normal contextual menu.

If you want to change any of this behavior, I am willing to test
patches.  I was led to believe that the slave jumper setting was
standard, which is troubling...if that's how most people's drives are
set up, there could be a lot of Ubuntu machines without working HP
840d drives.

I have an ECS motherboard with an AMD 64 processor (2800+ ? not sure)
and ATI Radeon built-in graphics.  If you want more detail, please ask
and I'll try to track it down.

Thanks,

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Upgrade to 10.04; still no CD/DVD drive[solved]

[Paul DeShaw]

Hi,

A miracle happened. Sort of.

I noticed that I had forgotten to turn off my computer last night.
When I unlocked the screen, I saw a tab open to this page:

https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/49921

I can't find a reference to this link in any of the mail on this
topic; if you sent it, please say so.  Or not; it's sort of cool to
believe it just appeared from nowhere.  Ubuntu shall provide.

Anyway, the above link has a workaround: change the jumper from
slave to cable select, which AFAIK should be the wrong setting,
but it works.  I have not tested burns yet, but it does play a CD.  It
also does not appear in the menu under Places. Navigate to
PlacesComputer, and it is in the file browser window that opens.

I am still working with the ubuntu-studio-developers folks in case
they want to patch something so the jumper change is not necessary.

Thanks for your help,

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Re: Upgrade to 10.04; still no CD/DVD drive

[Paul DeShaw]

kirko birilli wrote snip:


 hi paul,
 hope that helps with your problem.found it while looking for a solution for
 my msi-laptop dvd writer.was messing around with udev as well and the
 discussion in the bug report...
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/udev/+bug/554433


Kirko (or Shen? help me figure out who I'm replying to),

That was useful, if only to eliminate something.  I tried opening Disk
Utility, and the drive does not show up at all.


 From: Kenneth Koym  wrote snip



  If I didn't two
 family members in separate hospitals, I review bugs related to installation
 kills. Appears very rare that 9.10  10.04 produce a dead HP DVD Writer
 840d
 reading. Suggest google may supply you a work around.
Thanks for letting Ubuntu Studio techs have a chance to solve the
 mystery.

 Ken


I don't want you spending time on this, take care of family matters and
please don't neglect your own needs either...I will Google away.
Installation kills...never heard of such a thing.  The actual hardware is
alive, it is detected by Bios and can boot live CDs.

I apologize, I gave up on this list too soon and posted on
ubuntu-studio-developers; somebody's helping there as well...maybe we can at
least get my hardware working, but hopefully, get this patched so it doesn't
happen to other users.  I'm sure everyone wants a multimedia production
distro to detect common optical drives.

Thanks,

PD


 On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Paul DeShaw pauldes...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Greetings,
 
  In a previous post I reported that Ubuntu Studio 9.10 could not find my
 HP
  DVD Writer 840d; this issue was never resolved.  I have done a clean
 install
  of 10.04 and have the same problem--From the first boot, the very drive
 that
  read the install DVD, does not exist as far as Ubuntu Studio is
 concerned.
  Since the drive worked fine while running generic Ubuntu 9.10 from a
 flash
  drive, I could probably fix the problem simply by installing the generic
  10.04 and adding the Studio packages.  However, if there is any interest
 in
  finding and fixing this Ubuntu Studio-specific problem, I am willing to
 keep
  this install and work with the list to get it ironed out.  I would really
  like to see Ubuntu Studio work for as many people as possible.  I am
  concerned that the adoption of Ubuntu Studio could be seriously hindered
 if
  such common hardware is not usable.  Does anyone want to work on this
 with
  me?
 
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Non-coder contribution: hardware testing

[Paul DeShaw]

Greetings,

After struggling for months to get my HP DVD/CD ROM to work in Ubuntu
Studio, I decided I would ask the developers if they want me to run any
tests so they can make it work in future releases. This way I might get to
contribute something back to the project as well as get my own system
working again.

 This HD DVD Writer 840d worked flawlessly before upgrading from 8.04 to
9.10. It worked fine to run the upgrade from within 8.04, and it worked fine
to do a clean 10.04 install.  There is no problem booting from it, but it
becomes undetectable when I boot from the hard drive. I have also tested the
optical drive while running generic Ubuntu 9.10 from a flash drive, and it
seemed to work, though I didn't try burning any media. Since it ran with
generic Ubuntu, I thought it might be an Ubuntu Studio-specific problem, and
perhaps the developers should know about it.  I did file a bug report in
Launchpad against 9.10, but it didn't go anywhere; I also noticed a similar
bug report and forum post for earlier versions, also unresolved.  This may
be a persistent problem in post-Hardy Ubuntu Studio.  Please let me know if
there are any tests you want me to run.  If not, I'll shop around for a new
drive and/or distro, but I would _really_ like to see Ubuntu Studio work out
of the box with common IDE optical drives, and hope I can help you make that
happen.  If this is happening to a lot of users with similar hardware, I
fear it could negatively impact the adoption of Ubuntu Studio.

Please let me know what other hardware information you need, and how to find
it.  I'll probably have to run some reports, since I no longer have paper
documentation.

If there is a more appropriate venue for this issue, please say so.  I tried
Launchpad, Ubuntu-studio-users-list, linux-audio-users-list, and Ubuntu
forums so far, without much success.

Sincerely,

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Upgrade to 10.04; still no CD/DVD drive

[Paul DeShaw]

Greetings,

In a previous post I reported that Ubuntu Studio 9.10 could not find my HP
DVD Writer 840d; this issue was never resolved.  I have done a clean install
of 10.04 and have the same problem--From the first boot, the very drive that
read the install DVD, does not exist as far as Ubuntu Studio is concerned.
Since the drive worked fine while running generic Ubuntu 9.10 from a flash
drive, I could probably fix the problem simply by installing the generic
10.04 and adding the Studio packages.  However, if there is any interest in
finding and fixing this Ubuntu Studio-specific problem, I am willing to keep
this install and work with the list to get it ironed out.  I would really
like to see Ubuntu Studio work for as many people as possible.  I am
concerned that the adoption of Ubuntu Studio could be seriously hindered if
such common hardware is not usable.  Does anyone want to work on this with
me?

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Re: U-Stu Karmic can't find CD/DVD drive

[Paul DeShaw]

On Wed, 03 Feb 2010, mark wrote:


 Please can you give us some more info by doing this in a terminal:

 sudo su   (type your password)
 lshw report
 lspci report
 lsusb report(only if your CD drive is on a USB connection)
 lsmod report
 exit  (gets you out of super-user mode: important!)

 ...then reply to this email with the report attached.

 Cheers,
 Mark


Hi,
I got a message saying that report is too long to post to the list; can you
give me something specific I can exerpt for you?

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Re: U-Stu Karmic can't find CD/DVD drive

[Paul DeShaw]

 On Wed, 03 Feb 2010, mark m...@aktivix.org wrote:snip



 Please can you give us some more info by doing this in a terminal:

 sudo su   (type your password)
 lshw report
 lspci report
 lsusb report(only if your CD drive is on a USB connection)
 lsmod report
 exit  (gets you out of super-user mode: important!)

 You should now have a file called report in your home directory...
 then reply to this email with the report attached.

 Cheers,
 Mark


Hello,

Thanks for those magical commands.  I have a very long report--do you need
the whole thing?  I can post the entire report if you'd like, but I prefer
not to post something so long. Is there anything specific I should look for
to pull out?  I did not see anything about cd or dvd or optical in there.

==Paul



 On 03/02/10 04:11, Paul DeShaw wrote:
  Greetings,
 
  I finally upgraded from Hardy about a month or two ago.  I now have a
  multimedia content creation system that cannot read or write optical
  media.  I consider this sub-optimal.

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U-Stu Karmic can't find CD/DVD drive

[Paul DeShaw]

Greetings,

I finally upgraded from Hardy about a month or two ago.  I now have a
multimedia content creation system that cannot read or write optical media.
I consider this sub-optimal.

When I go to Placescdrom0, a window pops up that says:

*Unable to mount cdrom0

*mount: special device dev/scd0 does not exist

The drive is an HP dvd840. I can boot live cd's from the device, I used it
to upgrade to Karmic.  It worked fine in Hardy.

In my Googling, I came across the same error back in Intrepid--in Launchpad,
the bug was closed due to inactivity without being resolved.  I also noted
the exact same error being reported for Karmic on the Ubuntu forums; the
original poster gave up, but someone then wrote in that he replaced his IDE
optical drive with a SATA one, which then worked.  I think it would be
better if people could use what they have, either IDE or SATA.  I am willing
to file a bug, but first I wanted to see if anyone here has a solution.

What other information do you need to find out what's going on?

Thanks,

Paul
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No optical drive with Karmic

[Paul DeShaw]

Hello,

I cannot play or rip CDs or DVD's, or install updates because of this.

The device is listed in fstab (edited for brevity):

# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass

/dev/scd0   /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0   0

cdrom0 is listed under Places in the menu. When I try to open it,
here's the error:

Unable to mount cdrom0
mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist

Running updates fails; Synaptic and aptitude ask for the DVD, but
can't read it when I put it in. It also asks for the DVD when I
install packages, but sometimes can install them from the network
anyway; other times the files don't download.

I can boot the computer from this drive with a live DVD. When booted
from the HDD, it disappears.  No problem with this device under Hardy.

I posted this problem in Ubuntu forums also, under the name Aurora.
If you want to reply there, it may benefit people not on this list.

Paul in Seattle

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Formatted wrong drive: recovery possible?

[Paul DeShaw]

Greetings,

While attempting to make a bootable USB drive, I accidently formatted the
hard drive with all my recorded work on it.  Is it lost forever?  Are there
people who can recover data in such a case?

The drive does not mount, and Gparted says:

Unable to detect file system!  Possible reasons are:
-The file system is damaged
-The file system is unkown to GParted
-There is no file system available (unformatted)

This was the drive I used to back up my main system drive; I didn't have a
backup for my backup.

There were no completed projects, but a lot of work-in-progress.  It feels
like when somebody dies. Is there any hope?

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Re: Formatted wrong drive: recovery possible?

[Paul DeShaw]

 On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 Mark Stuart Burge wrote:
 It should just be a case of letting testdisk find the partition and then
 using it to rebuild the table and voila! you have your files back again.

 Perhaps someone else out there knows of a better method though.

 In any case, if you can, to a 'dd' to a spare drive if you have one, so
 a mistake won't be critical.

 Good luck


Wow, that's a HUGE relief.

Apparently the files are there, and accessible. I need to learn better
backup methods.  Could you elaborate on how a 'dd' works?

I say the files are apparently there, because Ardour is gone, so I can't
test the Ardour sessions.  I did not purposely remove it; I did remove
ttf-musescore-fonts-installer, because it never did install completly, and
Synaptic kept trying to complete the install everytime I ran it.  I guess it
took Ardour with it.  (Though Synaptic says the ubuntustudio-audio
metapackage is not installed, so far I've only found Ardour missing.)
Synaptic asks for the install DVD when I try to install either
ubuntustudio-audio or Ardour by itself. Same with aptitude in the terminal.
When I originally upgraded to Karmic, I booted into Hardy from my system
drive, inserted the Karmic DVD, and ran the upgrade at the prompt...it was
reading the DVD/CD drive fine then.  Now it can't seem to find it.

Any idea how to tell Ubuntu where the optical drive is--or for that matter,
why it can't install the audio package from the network?  It does install
other packages; I just installed disktest not an hour ago.

This is a minor annoyance compared to losing all my work.  I have tested the
previously nonworking drive now--Audacious played a file through JACK into
my USB audio interface.  I just can't install Ardour and some other
packages, or read or write any kind of optical media.  I welcome any
suggestions.

Thanks,

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Re: UBS Hardy 8.04 RT kernel panic

[Paul DeShaw]

Tue, 30 Jun 2009, wayne wa...@jawnee.orgwrote:

 ahoy all,

    i have been looking into this bug every once in a while (for around
 1 year) and have yet to solve it

 MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
 Kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer does not work! Boot with
 apic=debug and send a report. Then try booting with the noapic option

 if no kernel panic occurs, usually the MP-BIOS bug line still appears.

I also have searched and posted; no solution ever found,  I just keep
booting until it boots.  Crude, I know.  It seems to be the only way
with this hardware.

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Schizoid Rosegarden

[Paul DeShaw]

Greetings,

Rosegarden has a new trick.  Right now, it is playing the same file,
with two different sets of instruments, through two diffierent sound
cards, at two different tempos, at the same time.

I use the example files to try to learn how to work with RG. I get
sound from some, but not others. Sometimes sound will play from the
built-in sound card, even though JACK is set up to use my external USB
device.

 I couldn't get sound from this one (stormy_riders), so I tried
assigning instruments to the tracks--I used Hexter.  I think I was
using the built-in sound on my laptop when doing this.  I saved these
changes as a new file.

Today, I tried to play it, using the built-in sound card, and
configuring JACK accordingly.  No sound.  I decided to plug in my USB
sound device, reboot, and try again.  I set up JACK to use my external
device for both playback and recording.  Sound came out of the little
laptop speakers instead of the USB device, playing the Hexter patches
I'd assigned.  I restarted RG, and tried again.  This time, sound came
out of both devices--the default instruments through the USB device,
and the Hexter instruments from the little laptop speakers.
 Is this a bug, or do I just not get Rosegarden? Despite spending a
lot of time with the documentation, I have no control over it.  Can
anyone tell me how I can control what soundcard it will use, and what
instruments it will play?  It seems to have a mind of its own, even
routing audio independently of JACK.

I am wondering if Rosegarden-specific discussions are wanted on this
list, or would it be better to join the Rosgarden list?  It seems if
I'm having trouble, other Ubuntu Studio users might be having the same
issues.  I would appreciate if Cory and others would weigh in on this.

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LADSPA plugins absent or not working in Audacity

[Paul DeShaw]

Greetings,

Is anyone able to use the standard plugins that come with Audacity?  Mine
are all greyed out in the effects menu.  This is true in all versions on all
operating systems, even though I know I have used them in 1.3.5-beta on the
Mac, but can't now.  I don't recall ever using them in Ubuntu Studio.  I
have looked all over the Audacity site, and it just seems to assume they are
included and work.  I could download some extra ones, but what happened to
the originals?

Audacity is my go-to application when I want to do some quick editing.  I've
yet to learn editing in Ardour, so I'd just like to use Audacity if I could.

Thanks,

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Re: Ubuntu Studio Intrepid look is shaping up

[Paul DeShaw]

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 Cory K. wrote:


 Ubuntu Studio's Intrepid look is coming along.

 Desktop shot only:
 http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2047/earlyscreenshotbt9.png

 Not really looking for anything. Just showing interested people.

 Big thanx to Conn for the collaboration so far.

 -Cory K.


It is pretty indeed.  Can something be done about readability?  Since Gutsy,
I have not been able to see the lines in the  Qjacktl connect window well.
The green one is nearly invisible; I can't see what's connected to what.
That green against gray just doesn't have enough contrast.  Thicker lines,
and a lighter background would help.

Also,  in Firefox, sometimes forms have black text on a black background;
impossible to read.  I have to change desktop themes just to use the
browser.  I have tried tweaking the theme, but haven't figured it out.  I
really enjoy the look of Hardy, and Intrepid is promising, but I would
really like to be able to see what I'm doing.

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Re: How to make Firewire drive writable again?

[Paul DeShaw]

 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:10:15 -0400
 Cory K. wrote
 Paul DeShaw wrote:
  So, how do I acess the work I have on this drive?

 Try firing up Ubuntu Studio Controls in System-Admin and check the
 box to enable 1394. Might need a logout/reboot. (I don't have a drive
 but that might help)

 -Cory K.


Cory,

That worked.  I just was playing back a track.  I'm amazed how simple that
was, and grateful for the help.


 Luke Yelavich wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 06:06:00AM EST, Paul DeShaw wrote:
  Now, I find that no Linux system can read and write to this drive
 anymore.
  For example, if I open Nautilis as root, and try to drag and drop a
  Rosegarden session onto this drive, I get an error message that says,
 
  Error while copying to PPA1.2:
 
  The destination is read-only
 
  Looking at the permissions in a terminal, it says
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /media
  total 12snip
  drwxrwxrwx  1 root root   19 2008-06-22 22:46 PPA1.2

 Just a note, that is owned by root, yet is accessible to everyone. You
 might want to tighten that up to only the user owning and accessing it.


That was the only way I knew to make it accessable from different machines
and OS's.



 Have you considered repairing/checking disk permissions etc in OS X? Since
 HFS+ is native to OS X, it should know how to deal with such a filesystem
 the best.

  So, how do I acess the work I have on this drive?

 Make sure the filesystem is in tact, and perhaps try copying he data off
 the drive in OS X onto another drive. If that works, try in Linux. If not,
 I'd back up, whipe the drive, and start a fresh with a compatible filesystem
 for all OSs you use.

 Luke


Thankfully this wasn't necessary.  HFS+ was the best comprimise:  FAT32
would limit file size, EXT3 wouldn't allow access from Mac OSX.  I find I'm
using Mac less now that I have Ubuntu on the MacBook; maybe I will
eventually back everything up, and reformat the drive to a Linux filesystem.

Thanks, guys,

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Re: Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 15, Issue 24

[Paul DeShaw]

Nick Steeves wrote:


 Subject: Re: many problems after upgrade to Hardy


 Can you still boot into your upgraded installation with your old kernel?
 This bug also affected me, in the same way you describe



  Best regards,

 Nick

 On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 12:05 -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote:
  | later
  |
  | Ok, now it won't boot at all.  It says it's going to check the
  drive,
  |  then it just hangs there.
  |
  | Ubuntu Studio has been mounted 22 times without being checked,
  check
  |  forced. Checking drive Ubuntustudio (/dev/sda3): 0% (stage  1/5,
  | 1/737) UbuntuStudio: 318790/12075008 files 95.2% noncontiguous),
  | 6403122/24147703 blocks
  |
  | [blinking cursor]
  |
  | It's been like that at least 10 minutes now, so I think that's all
  | it's going to do.
 

 Nick,

 Looks like you missed my subsequent 2 or 3 posts, so a little update is in
 order (with some new information as well):

 I booted in recovery mode and it booted after that.  It still does not see
 my external sound device--

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ asoundconf list
 Names of available sound cards:
 IXP
 It used to show Ozone Academic, and I could set it as my default sound
 card.




 You say that your whole LUG has this problem.  If no one has the
 hard-drive space to hold a backup of someone else's non-replaceable
 files, perhaps everyone could pitch in a bit for an external hard drive?
 This is worst-case scenario.  I'm quite sure that you haven't lost any
 data, since your symptoms sound identical to mine.  At any rate, 'hope
 someone can help you figure out the cause, so you don't have to resort
 to a backup-bare metal recovery!


 I do not remember saying that.  I have my /home folder backed up to an
external drive.  I am not sure about how to use it in a new system.

I have since made room for a clean install of the 64-bit version (goodbye 64
Studio and Musix) and have successfully installed it. I kept the old
installation and I can boot both of them. Now suddenly the Ardour sessions
on my Firewire audio drive don't open because I don't have the right
permissions; efforts to change permissions, using the file browser a root,
have been unsuccessful. My next step is to attempt it with command line
tools, but I haven't gotten to it yet. Strangely, my old install also can't
open them, with exactly the same errors, even though I did the original
recordings with it.  I tested some just before installing the new
system--they worked (through the cruddy onboard sound), now they don't.

A Rosegarden session on the same drive loads fine; I didn't try recording
anything.

Other than not accessing most of my previous Ardour sessions, the new
install works much better.  I can see my MIDI keyboard in JACK's ALSA tab,
which I couldn't before.  I haven't gotten around to installing sound fonts
to check out Q-synth yet.


 Luis S?nchez de Posada wrote:
 Subject: Re: many problems after upgrade to Hardy (Luis SP)


 AMD 64 2800+, 1GB, M-Audio Ozone Academic (USB keyboard/MIDI/audio
 interface, originally bundled with Pro Tools M-Powered Academic bundle.
 Kernel support added for this device in the main kernel tree, late 2007,
 then integrated into the Hardy kernel)

 You should take a look to:

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148467

 I finally got my m-audio ozone working in hardy


LOL I am *very* familiar with that thread.   I think we have met there; I
post as Aurora on Ubuntu forums.  My first post on that thread was a year
ago.

The device works out-of-the-box with Hardy.  I haven't really tested it on
this box, but on the MacBook I have recorded some MIDI with Rosegarden, just
as a test. There are still realtime issues I have to fix before it is
usable.

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Hardy clean install works better

[Paul DeShaw]

 On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 Rafael F. Compte wrote:

 I could tell you about what I would do. I usually do a clean install
 to avoid issues. So I install on top of the version I'm trying to
 replace, but I keep my home partition intact. I just mount it as
 home but I don't format it. I choose a different username and let it
 install...


Hi Rafael,

I really like to keep my user name consistent. What I've decided to do for
now, is just dual-boot a fresh install (64-bit) with my current install.
That lets me have a functioning system while I figure out what to do.

The install works well, except that I can't access files on my external
audio drive, even though the permissions are wide open:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /media
total 12snip

drwxrwxrwx  1 root root   19 2008-06-22 22:46 PPA1.2
drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2008-07-09 09:22 UbuntuStudio

PPA1.2 is the external drive; UbuntuStudio is the old semi-broken
installation.  I can mount it and access files, like the permissions
indicate.  But on PPA1.2, I get messeges saying I don't have the needed
permissions, even though it's rwx all the way across.

I will mess with that later.

On the new install, JACK lists my interface in both the Audio and ALSA tabs,
so I could probably control synths and write MIDI, I haven't had time to
fool around with that.  The terminal works normally, and I can play both
Ardour and Rosgarden through my external sound device.  So, except for the
drive, everything seems to be working.

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Can't change permissions; read-only filesystem

[Paul DeShaw]

I wrote:



 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /media
 total 12snip

 drwxrwxrwx  1 root root   19 2008-06-22 22:46 PPA1.2
 drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2008-07-09 09:22 UbuntuStudio

 PPA1.2 is the external drive; UbuntuStudio is the old semi-broken
 installation.  I can mount it and access files, like the permissions
 indicate.  But on PPA1.2, I get messeges saying I don't have the needed
 permissions, even though it's rwx all the way across.

 I will mess with that later.


I've been messing with it.  When I try to cheat and use the GUI file browser
as root,
I can't make any of these sessions read-and-write. (Right-clicking on
properties, then clicking the permissions tab, lets you change
permissions in a GUI file browser).  I get an error; 'cannot change
permissions to something.wav  Read-only file system' Either a .wav file or a
file with a name like 93992436libardourvampplugins:perusssionsets:2 will
get this error.  I will get out my Linux command book tomorrow and try to
use chmod and/or chown to see if it works any better.

These same files and folders are now suddenly read-only on my other
installation, which had full access before I did the new install.  I had the
drive plugged in when I ran the install.  Could that be the reason?  They
are owned by pad, which is the user name I'm using on the new installation
as well.  Curiously, files owned by 99 are read-and-write.  These are
sessions I started in Ardour under Mac OS X; I don't know why the owner is
99, because there is no user account on any system I use called '99'.   But
I set the permissions in OS X so that 'others' has read and write access.
At least one of these sessions now works everywhere, including the new
install.

Every time I fix something, something else breaks, and I never end up with a
useable system.  I started building this system in the summer of '06, and
still haven't been able to really use it.  Is this some kind of record?

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Re: many problems after upgrade to Hardy

[Paul DeShaw]

 Gustin Johnson  wrote:
 What are the hardware specs of your desktop and what soundcard/midi
 controller are you using?


AMD 64 2800+, 1GB, M-Audio Ozone Academic (USB keyboard/MIDI/audio
interface, originally bundled with Pro Tools M-Powered Academic bundle.
Kernel support added for this device in the main kernel tree, late 2007,
then integrated into the Hardy kernel)


  Do you have any extra boot options in your
 menu.lst (eg. noacpi or some such)?


I don't see any.



 You mentioned that you had 64Studio installed, does it fare any better
 with your hardware?  I have 64Studio on my Desktop and Ubuntu for my
 laptop and am familiar (and happy) with both distros.


I have never been able to get 64 Studio to recognize my audio/midi hardware,
even though I updated it fairly recently.  I haven't checked to see what
kernel they're currently using.


 -On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Cory K. wrote:

 I'm going to suggest a clean reinstall of Ubuntu Studio-Hardy on the box
 in question *if* you really wanna see if it's the HW or your
 configuration. Feisty-Gutsy-Hardy. Many things could have happened
 over this time frame.

 -Cory K.


I've been leaning towards this, moving files and directories I want to save
to external drives in preparation for it.  Three things are hindering this
effort:

1).  I still have to learn how to clone my old /home directory into a new
installation.  I could leave it in the containing file and just copy it into
the new /home, but I would rather have it just become the new  /home.  I'm
not sure I'm being clear--

I don't think I want to end up with /home/pad/old_pad, with old_pad being
the home folder I saved from the old installation.  (My user name is pad.)
Rather, I want /home/pad to just be the original /home/pad, with the
addition of whatever Ubuntu puts in your home folder by default, such as
examples and whatnot.  I don't know how to accomplish this other than moving
files one at a time into the new /home/pad.  Surely there's an easier and
more elegant way?  Also, not sure if I need the entire /home directory, or
just my user (pad) directory to come over.

2)  With the availability of the new 64-bit version, I'd rather install
that. (Recall that I have an AMD 64-based system).  I'm not sure if some
things get stored in the home folder that will not be compatible between
32-bit and 64-bit systems.  There are all kinds of hidden files that I take
to be configuration files, and who knows what else.  I don't know if I will
break a whole bunch of stuff by attempting to use my old user folder in a
new, 64-bit system.

Maybe I should compromise, by moving my /home into its own partition, then
installing the 64-bit with its own /home.  I can then mount the other /home
partition to access files as needed, keeping the /home within the new
installation as the default /home.  The disadvantage is I won't be able to
have the default /home on its own partition--or maybe I can? Just have two
different /home partitions with different names, and point to one as the
default?

This is way more complicated than I'd like.  Much simpler and more elegant
to integrate the old into the new.  But I'm now sure about the procedure,
and what to do about any files that might mess up a 64-bit system.

3) I've noticed I have all the sound (but not MIDI) funtioning on the
2.6.22-xx kernels, but NOT the 2.6.24-xx kernels. That M-Audio thing is not
detected--even though the 2.6.24-xx kernels work fine with it on the
MacBook, including the new-to-Hardy MIDI functionality.  On the desktop,
with the ~.24 kernels I can't even listen to .mp3s, no system sounds,
nothing.  Who knows if I will have no sound at all with a clean reinstall,
and if I will be able to fix it if it doesn't work?   So I'm a little stuck
right now.

Thanks for working with me, I don't know what I'd do otherwise.

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Use of Ubuntu Studio logo

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Greetings,

If I want to make T-shirts or other items with the Ubuntu Studio logo, whose
permission do I need?  I really like that logo, and would love to have it on
a shirt.  I would rather just buy one, but I haven't found any, so I thought
I might have to make my own.

I can think of several options to make shirts. There is a local arts project
(www.theveraproject.org) that teaches silkscreening, if I just want to make
a few by hand.  I also know of a local place that will embroider shirts.
And there's always the likes of Cafe Press and Zazzle (Zazzle does Ardour's
shirts: http://www.zazzle.com/dawhead/products).  That would be the easiest,
though I have read complaints about the quality of Cafe Press products.

If I do this, is anyone on the list interested in a shirt?  I really only
want to offset my costs--but if there was a *lot* of interest, it could
raise funds for the project.  Which brings up other questions:  Where does
one send donations to the Ubuntu Studio project?  Do all funds have to pass
through Canonical?  And who would keep track of donations?  I can barely
handle my checking account, and fear the consequences of being entrusted to
handle the accounting.

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Re: many problems after upgrade to Hardy

[Paul DeShaw]

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 , Gustin Johnson  wrote:

 Should not have to create a new user.  If the new kernel is indeed
 installed you may have to update grub.  See below.

 update-grub is your friend.  For some reason this was not run
 automatically on your machine during the install.  Was your install
 interrupted?  It doesn't really matter unless you are trying to
 reproduce the problem for a bug report.

 Once you have updated grub you should notice a significant improvement.
 ~ When you are booting into the new kernels it is a good idea to remove
 the old ones.

OK, I think I know the problem.  After I ran update-grub, the report
showed the new kernels were found and added to the list, but then they
still didn't appear on the grub menu when I rebooted.  That's because
this is a multi-boot system, and the MBR is pointed to the last
installation, which I had hand-edited to include the other two
partitions.  I had forgotten that I was actually using the grub list
from Musix to boot Ubuntu. I booted  Musix, and ran update-grub.  This
was a mistake, as update-grub did not look on the other partitions for
kernels, and erased the Ubuntu and 64 Studio kernels from the list.

So for now I can't boot Ubuntu Studio, but the grub list on that
partition should be OK.  I am typing this in Musix.

Rather than edit the grub.list in Musix, I think I would rather fix
the MBR to use the grub.list in Ubuntu Studio.  Then I can get rid of
Musix and 64 Studio, which I don't use.



 |
 | There are a couple of huge long threads on Ubuntu forums on all kinds of
 | things that happened to people's systems when they upgraded to Hardy,
 | which is why I waited so long, hoping bugs would get reported and
 | fixed.  I'm glad this one is LTS; I'm going to skip the next release or
 | two so I can have everything working for a while before an upgrade can
 | mess it up again.

 Hundreds of installs out of how many thousands (tens, hundreds, or
 more)?  Don't be fooled into thinking there is an epidemic on this basis
 alone.  Of course you are free (and encouraged) to come to your own
 conclusions.  I do not intend to start a flame war over this.  Our
 experiences differ and that is about as far as we are going to get.

Apparently, with the right hardware, everything is wonderful.  I did
do quite a bit of research before building my system, but not enough,
it seems.

I also have Ubuntu Studio on a first generation Apple MacBook, and in
general it works better than my desktop.  The theme looks great on the
MacBook screen.  Sad that the system I installed Ubuntu on as an
afterthought works better than the one I built for it.


 At any rate I hope that update-grub does the trick.  You should not need
 any switches or other command line options though you do need sudo or
 admin privileges.

Well, unfortunately I applied this tool where it would do the most
damage.  I think I saw a tutorial on rewriting an MBR at
ubuntuguide.org .  If you know one you like better, I'd like to know
about it.

Thanks,

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Subject: Re: many problems after upgrade to Hardy

[Paul DeShaw]

 On  Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Paul DeShaw wrote:

 OK, I think I know the problem.  After I ran update-grub, the report
 showed the new kernels were found and added to the list, but then they
 still didn't appear on the grub menu when I rebooted.  That's because
 this is a multi-boot system, and the MBR is pointed to the last
 installation, which I had hand-edited to include the other two
 partitions.  I had forgotten that I was actually using the grub list
 from Musix to boot Ubuntu.


Here's an update.  Please note that since I receive a digest, there could be
a reply in the pipeline I haven't seen yet.

I was able to copy and paste from Ubuntu's /boot/grub/menu.lst to Musix's
/boot/grub/menu.lst, so I am able to boot the Hardy kernel.

All the previous problems are still there, with the addition that my USB
audio/MIDI interface/keyboard controller is no longer detected by JACK.
Longtime readers may recall that I was able to use this device as a
soundcard and audio interface under Feisty and Gutsy, but that its MIDI port
was not detected.  A 'quirk' was added to the kernel which finally made it
to Ubuntu with Hardy, enabling MIDI on this specific device.  In Hardy on
the MacBook, the device works out of the box--I can record and play back
audio, control soft synths, and record MIDI data in Rosegarden.   The only
thing is realtime doesn't work on the Mac yet, so it's pretty useless--lots
and lots of xruns.  That's why I was hopeful that upgrading to Hardy on the
desktop, which has no problem with realtime, would finally make the whole
studio functional.  I guess I have a few more (dozens of ) hours of tweaking
to do.

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Re: many problems after upgrade to Hardy

[Paul DeShaw]

Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:55:47 -0600

 From: Jason Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: many problems after upgrade to Hardy
 To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 From your description it sounds like user space stuff. Try to create a
 new user, be sure to add the user to all the correct groups in
 /etc/group (mimic the existing user). If everything is ok in the new
 user environment you could move your files into the new users /home.
 You could also replace any potentially broken configurations (i.e,
 .gnome2 with good ones from the new user.

 As for the kernel, you will need to install that manually using
 synaptic or apt-get (just search for the latest kernel and install
 it). Don't uninstall your old one, this way you can reboot into it if
 the new one breaks.


I'll try the new user, though I'm reluctant--I use the same user name on all
my systems.

I had already checked the kernel in Synaptic before reading your post.  It
said the latest one was installed; I tried reinstalling it, as well as
linux-image-rt, and linux-rt, but still I have only old kernels on the GRUB
menu; maybe I have to manually edit the GRUB menu list?  Aren't they
supposed to get added when they're installed?

There are a couple of huge long threads on Ubuntu forums on all kinds of
things that happened to people's systems when they upgraded to Hardy, which
is why I waited so long, hoping bugs would get reported and fixed.  I'm glad
this one is LTS; I'm going to skip the next release or two so I can have
everything working for a while before an upgrade can mess it up again.

I hope it doesn't get to the point where you have to re-install every time
like Windows.

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many problems after upgrade to Hardy

[Paul DeShaw]

Greetings,

After a more-or-less successful new installation of Ubuntu Studio 8.04 on my
Apple laptop, I decided to upgrade my desktop from Gutsy to Hardy.  I had
been afraid to try, but the MacBook install was so pretty, I decided to take
the plunge.

Lots of things are weird now.  The 8.04 kernel was not installed, still
running 7.10.
There is no wallpaper.  The theme now has black letters against a dark brown
background in dialog boxes in audio apps, almost impossible to read. The
terminal is weird; the characters are rainbow colors, and they don't appear
until after enter is pressed; there is a dark ghost window to the right of
the terminal window.

I tried running upgrade again with Upgrade Manager; it says the system is up
to date.  I checked the sources and they are Hardy repositories.  (Some apps
have indeed been upgraded, which indicates to me that it is using the
current repositories.) I tried upgrading from the terminal; it installed and
upgraded 0 packages. I tried burning a DVD and upgrading from it; it
installed the latest restricted modules, and removed 84 obsolete packages,
but everything seems to work the same.

The sound does work; I ran JACK and Ardour, then Rosegarden.  Xruns galore,
but I haven't played with the settings yet.   But, sound comes out from my
external sound device like it should.

So all that needs fixing **that I know about** is the terminal app, the
wallpaper, and install the new kernel.  But who knows what else is messed
up.   Should I:

Install the kernel, terminal, and wallpaper from Synaptic or apt-get?

Install fresh? (I have my home folder backed up on an external drive)?

Something else I haven't thought of?

This is so frustrating.  Ubuntu peaked with Dapper, as far as smooth
upgrades are concerned.   I upgraded my old iMac G3 from Dapper to Feisty,
and it's even more messed up.  Wish I'd learned my lesson and not upgraded
my main desktop.

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Re: many problems after upgrade to Hardy

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 |
 | This is so frustrating.  Ubuntu peaked with Dapper, as far as smooth
 | upgrades are concerned.   I upgraded my old iMac G3 from Dapper to
 | Feisty, and it's even more messed up.  Wish I'd learned my lesson and
 | not upgraded my main desktop.

 I have exactly the opposite experience.  I have been upgrading (as
 opposed to reinstalling) my laptop since dapper and it is still working
 flawlessly.


I'm glad for you, but I have talked to others who have had similar, and
worse, experiences--merely seach this list's archives and you'll see what I
mean.  Gutsy was especially traumatic.


 I guess to start I would be interested in having a look at your
 /etc/apt/sources.list.


OK, to save space I'll leave out everything that's commented out:

deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Studio 8.04.1 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20080701)]/
hardy main multiverse restricted universe
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted


deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted
universe
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted


deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe


deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security main restricted
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security main restricted
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security universe
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security universe
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security multiverse
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security multiverse

This looks good to me.  Yesterday, when I tried to sudo aptitude update,
then sudo aptitude dist-upgrade, it didn't install or upgrade anything.
I'll try again now:

The following packages will be upgraded:
  gtk2-engines-murrine gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks libpoppler-glib2
  libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler2 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-19-generic
  linux-restricted-modules-common poppler-utils
8 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed

I'll save this draft and report back after I run the upgrade and reboot.

later

Ok, now it won't boot at all.  It says it's going to check the drive, then
it just hangs there.

Ubuntu Studio has been mounted 22 times without being checked, check
forced.
Checking drive Ubuntustudio (/dev/sda3): 0% (stage  1/5, 1/737)
UbuntuStudio: 318790/12075008 files 95.2% noncontiguous), 6403122/24147703
blocks

[blinking cursor]

It's been like that at least 10 minutes now, so I think that's all it's
going to do.

I'll try booting in recovery mode and send another e-mail with the results.

FWIW I ran upgrade instead of dist-upgrade by mistake...but that shouldn't
have hurt anything.

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Re: many problems after upgrade to Hardy

[Paul DeShaw]

Hello,

I wrote:

 Ok, now it won't boot at all...
 I'll try booting in recovery mode and send another e-mail with the
results.

It's booting again.  I ran dist-upgrade:

No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

So I'm back to where I was.  When I did the initial upgrade, it aborted
right at the end and warned me I may have an unstable system.   What now?
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Re: Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 14, Issue 18

[Paul DeShaw]

Dear Listmates,

If you reply to a digest, remember that the whole digest will come back to
the group unless you edit. Highlight and delete, please.

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On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:55 AM, 
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 Send Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list submissions to
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Re:word processing

[Paul DeShaw]

 On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 07:02:33 -0500 Michael Jeter wrote:

  Thank you all for answering my word processing question.


I'm glad you received the information you wanted, but there is something I'd
like to add.  Ubuntu Studio packages can easily be added to other Ubuntu
versions, in case you might like the education features of Edubuntu.  I
presume it works the other way around: If you install Ubuntu Studio, you
could add, for example, the grading or test-making software from Edubuntu.
I say this because you mentioned you are a teacher.

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Migrating from 32-bit to 64; Hardy makes keyboard work

[Paul DeShaw]

Greetings,

I've been running 32 bit Ubuntu Studio (Gutsy) on my AMD 64 desktop, and I
notice the latest release is available in 64 bit version.  If I move my
/home directory to its own partition, and install the new 64 bit version,
using the old /home, will the settings and whatnot stored in /home wreak
havoc with the new system?  Are there some things that should be removed?

In Hardy, for the first time there is kernel support for the keyboard
controller/audio interface I have,  I have confirmed this by installing in
my Apple laptop; the keyboard just works, for both MIDI and audio.  It never
worked in previous versions, so I'm anxious to get Hardy installed on the
desktop so I can finally experience 64 bit speed with a working interface.
This is going to require major surgery on the hard drive if I wan to use my
current /home with a fresh install, so I need all the help I can get.

Thanks,

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Attn. Devs: M-Audio Ozone keyboard not working in Hardy

[Paul DeShaw]

PLEASE see this thread in Ubuntu forums.  We have been working hard for the
last two years to try to get this device to work with mixed success; you may
want the context. Nobre from Brazil posted in the last two days (page 7 of
the thread) about his problems with the latest release.  There may be info
for last-minute bug fixes:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148467page=7

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Re: Attn: Devs: M-Audio Ozone not working in Hardy

[Paul DeShaw]

Looks like I posted too soon...He reports that it's working.  Still, please
have a look at all the tweaks that have been worked out over two years to
use this device, and see if some of them could be integrated into Hardy or a
future release.  It would be great if it just worked out of the box.

I'll just take this space to recognize Maku-d and others on Ubuntu Forums
for making all these fixes.

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Subject: Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?

[Paul DeShaw]

Paul DeShaw wrote:


 FWIW,  I have never seen any of my apps with that color scheme in Ubuntu
 Studio since upgrading to Gutsy.


Wrong.  Actually it was changing to XFCE as my default desktop that changed
the theme. XFCE is now broken, thanks to some weird bug in XMMS that freezes
the desktop.  This last time, all the menus and tool bars disappeared as
well, before I could ctrl-alt-F2 out of there and reboot.  So now I use
GNOME or KDE.  Good thing I had all three installed.

I have removed XMMS.  The evil Destroyer of Desktops is no more. sniff but
it worked so well, when it worked, and so many plugins...

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Re: Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 11, Issue 40

[Paul DeShaw]

 From: D. Michael McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I also have a KDE Ubuntu Studio color scheme now.
 .

 Here's what it looks like now.

 http://home.comcast.net/~documentarian/demo2.jpghttp://home.comcast.net/%7Edocumentarian/demo2.jpg


FWIW,  I have never seen any of my apps with that color scheme in Ubuntu
Studio since upgrading to Gutsy.  Luckily, I don't like all the black, it's
hard for me to read.  I used to curse it in Feisty, because some of the
pull-down menus would have black text on a black background, and I just had
to guess what the text said.
BTW I am now hearing noises from Rosegarden using the FluidSynth DSSI
plugin.  I have some further questions, but I'll wait for another e-mail.
Thanks to all who have helped.

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Re: No audio from Rosegarden anymore

[Paul DeShaw]

On Sunday 23 March 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:

  recommend that you run QSynth with fluid-soundfont.  (Unless you are
 short

 Heh, I was writing as though I was on Rosegarden-User instead of Ubuntu
 Studio
 User.  Oh well, I don't see any serious adjustments that need to be made.

 I forgot to mention that this is packaged for Hardy now, and the Hardy
 packages install just fine on Gutsy, since they are data-only, and have no
 dependencies...snip

 I don't have the URL for those either, but I found them, and I have
 confidence
 that you can too.  :)

 --
 D. Michael McIntyre


OK, I found the package here:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/all/fluid-soundfont-gm/download

I installed the .deb, but I'm not sure  what it actually does. I have to
learn more about how sounfonts work.  Does the .deb  create a .sf2 file I
can load into Fluidsynth/Qsynth?
I've tried opening Qsynth and the FluidSynth DSSI plugin, but I can't find a
soundfont to load.

Over the past few days, I've experimented with what you talked about in your
original response.  I found I could record my voice to an audio track and
play it back.  Also, I could assign MIDI tracks to Hexter, Trivial Synth,
and Less Trivial Synth, and get some sound.  So, I guess it's some problem
with TiMidity.  Weird how it worked before, then just stopped working.  XMMS
can still play MIDI files with TiMidity.

I'm glad you're still willing to entertain these kinds of questions despite
being annoyed when they come up repeatedly.  Next time I'll spend more time
with the documentation before asking.

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No audio from Rosegarden anymore

[Paul DeShaw]

Greetings,

I have resigned myself to waiting for Hardy to get my MIDI keyboard
recognized, but in the meantime I would like to troubleshoot audio in
Rosegarden.  I used to be able to play MIDI files and hear them, but I can't
now. This is true in both Ubuntu Studio and Musix. Worked for a while, then
stopped. Other apps produce sound through JACK.  All the audio and MIDI
seems to be routed correctly in the JACK window.  The little meters bounce
in the tracks in the main window and the MIDI mixer window, but NOT in the
audio mixer window.  I can't seem to find anything mentioning this kind of
problem in the Rosegarden manual.

BTW, is there a Rosegarden WIKI or other community documentation project,
where information can be centralized?  It's not like the Rosegarden team has
time on their hands to update the documentation.

Thanks,

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Emu 1212M

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 From: Margot Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:02:19 -0700
 Subject: Emu 1212M
 In 7.04 a reinstall gave me audio! I was NOT thinking in that 7.10, with a
 clean install would do the same as the previous version. Nope.

 Although, after the update of 7.04I lost my desktop.

 I'd LOVE to have Ubuntu Studio work for me, as I'm not able to afford any
 of the mainstream audio programs, but this is just too much futzing around
 with code/terminal to make it usable for even home projects.

 Maybe some day, Linux will fulfill it's promise to the non techhie
 musician

 Till then...

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 Yeah, I hear your frustration.  Linux audio is still pretty much geek
territory.  I have at least a hundred hours into Linux audio and haven't
been able to get some things working, but most people have better luck.
Ubuntu released every six months, and Ubuntu Studio tries to follow that
schedule, so maybe try again after Hardy is released in April.

You might also see if Musix works for you.  It's a live CD, so you don't
have to install it if you don't want, and has good hardware detection:

http://musix.org.ar/en/index.html

Another live CD is Dyne:Bolic. They make some bold claims as far as
out-of-the-box usability with any hardware:

http://dynebolic.org/

I am skeptical of such claims, but it's free.

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Re: M-Audio Ozone Academic patch:Attn: Cory

[Paul DeShaw]

Looks like the list got distracted a bit so I'd like to ask again:

Will this patch be part of the kernel in Hardy?  If so, I'll just wait; if
not I'll have to keep messing with it.  I would appreciate URLs for your
favorite kernel patching tutorials for Ubuntu, if Hardy will not include
this patch.

Here again is that URL about the patch:

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=2ea547dcdd4216370f00dd65a18ee5a0271646a0

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Re: M-Audio Ozone Academic patch

[Paul DeShaw]

 From: adam faranda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion 
 ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:09:39 -0500
 Subject: Re: M-Audio Ozone Academic patch
 I've been away from the list for a while, so I haven't seen any of your
 posts, but I'll see if I have
 the old threads archived. I'm surprised though, the M-audio ozone just
 worked for me, I'm using 7.10.
 What kind of problems were you having? I just bought a generic 1x midi-usb
 interface on Ebay. Is there
 an issue with midi communication over the USB port?


Hi, Adam,

Yes, most Ozone keyboards work better than the sub-version designated
Academic on the front panel. That's why the patch was written especially
for it.

There is a six-page thread in Ubuntu Forums about trying to get the M-Audio
Ozone to work; most people have not had it just work' with Ubuntu.  Page 5
and 6  detail how the extensive tweaks did not work with my particular
version.  Then I took the Ozone and my computer to the January GSLUG
(Greater Seattle LUG) meeting, and two guys discovered the patch online.  It
was the FIRST TIME I ever saw any MIDI working with it; the guy was using
aconnect with TiMIdity in Slackware.  He did not have JACK installed.

These guys then helped me compile and install a patched kernel, but I have
not been able to get it to boot. The original kernel works fine, and I use
the Ozone as the default sound card.  Everything will play audio through it
except Rosegarden, but MIDI is not recognized.

For fun, here's a link to that Ubuntu Forums thread:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148467page=5

I am posting as Aurora.

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M-Audio Ozone Academic patch

[Paul DeShaw]

Greetings,

Some of you may remember my sometime posts about attempting to get the
M-Audio Ozone Academic MIDI keyboard/audio interface to work in Ubuntu
Studio, or any other distro, for that matter.  Some folks in my local LUG
discovered that a kernel patch had been written to allow the MIDI port to be
recognized, and I have spent the last month unsuccessfully trying to boot
the patched kernel.  Someone at the January LUG meeting patched the kernel
on his Slackware laptop, and had TiMidity playing from my keyboard, but I
have not had this kind of success.

Here is a link to something about this patch:

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=2ea547dcdd4216370f00dd65a18ee5a0271646a0

It may be that this is scheduled to become part of the general kernel; I
don't know how those decisions get made.  Seeing torvalds in that URL
makes me wonder if  it's a done deal, and that eventually it will trickle
down to Ubuntu.

If this patch is not destined to become part of the Linux kernel, I would
like to know the how to best lobby the Ubuntu Studio devs to include this
patch in a future version of U/S.  These keyboards are likely to become
available on the used market, as they are part of a bundle that Digidesign
is discontinuing.  People who want to get started in Linux audio could
benefit from kernel support for a basic do-it-all USB device that may become
common and inexpensive.

In any case, it would be a good idea for me to learn to apply this patch to
U/S, and I would welcome responses from Ubuntu Studio users who have
successfully applied kernel patches.  Where are the best how-tos and
tutorials for this?

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Ozone Academic kernel support in Hardy?

[Paul DeShaw]

Hello,

I brought my keyboard/interface to my local LUG meeting today, and two
people worked on it.  It turns out kernel support was only added for the
Academic version of M-Audio's Ozone keyboard in October.  My LUG friends are
helping me patch the kernel; but will this patch be in the kernel that ships
with Hardy?  Here's something about it:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=2ea547dcdd4216370f00dd65a18ee5a0271646a0

One guy, Joel, had the Ozone working with his laptop running Slackware.  He
doesn't even use JACK; we were playing the keyboard and getting sounds out
of TiMidity using aconnect.  I was fascinated, because I had no idea you
could even do that.  I'd like to learn how just to say I can ;) but for
normal use I'd rather have JACK with a GUI frontend any day.

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Subject: Re: The Death of High Fidelity Sad, sad, sad...

[Paul DeShaw]

 From: D. Michael McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion 
 ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
 Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:45:33 -0500
 Subject: Re: The Death of High Fidelity Sad, sad, sad...
 On Saturday 29 December 2007, Cory K. wrote:
   I guess there's a certain element of where to draw the line here, but
   it's depressing how far down the line is trending these days.
 
  *sigh* :(

 Kinda makes me wonder if the next big thing in audio formats will be
 .wax.cyl
 files.

 --
 D. Michael McIntyre

 I have to admit I was too scared to read the Rolling Stone article.  On a
positive note, I've noticed two things:

There is a countertrend in the  arena of  DIY music; a trend for people to
participate in music-making rather than merely being consumers.  Witness the
so-called recreational music movement for adults, or, my own obsession,
early childhood music.  Children exposed to participatory music from an
early age make music as a normal part of life; it becomes as natural as
speech for them.  I just wonder if people who are used to making their own
music, often on acoustic instruments, will be satisfied with the sound of
lossy compression--especially if they've been exposed to live singing and
playing since birth.

The other thing I noticed, when I was taking audio production classes last
year, was a very acute awareness about these problems among 19-22 year old
future audio engineers, performers, and producers.  I heard these young
adults lament the bad sound of Mp3's and brick-wall mastering.  If the next
generation that produces music is this aware, it gives me a little hope,
especially if they are producing music for people whose ears have been
sensitized to the nuances of musical sound from an early age.

Peace,

Paul

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Re: Mscore from source

[Paul DeShaw]

From: Susan Cragin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion 
 ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
 Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:27:06 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
 Subject: Re: a programme addition request
 Hi, Alex.
 I'm off to relatives for a few days, but e-mail me back next Thursday or
 so and I will walk (via email) you through the installation from source.
 It's not hard, and it looks like a great program.
 Susan Cragin

 -Original Message- snip
 From: alex stone
 I´m Alex, and very new to linux, ubuntustudio, and mailing lists in
 general, so if i breach any protocol, please let me know.
 I have another [notation editor], that i ask the ubuntustudio team to
 consider for inclusion.

 Mscore, or musescore.  (by Werner Schweer, the developer of Muse.)

 As i´m very new at linux the deb building from source process is still
 beyond me, so to access a deb of this programme from the usual repositories
 would be a welcome bonus.

 Regards to all in this festive season,

 Alex Stone.


 Hi,

Thank you,  Susan, for offering to help, and Alex, for asking the question.
Please CC me unless you post to the whole list.  I look forward to this
walk-through, and will probably install it myself just for the practice (or
'practise', if you prefer).  I'm still a little nervous about compiling and
installing from source.

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Ozone Academic USB Interface/MIDI keyboard

[Paul DeShaw]

Hello,

After following the instructions in post #49 in this thread on Ubuntu
forums:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148467page=5
I have lost all sound in Rosegarden, but I can both play back and record in
Ardour.  As before, the Ozone keyboard does not show up as a MIDI client.  I
am running Ubuntu Studio Gutsy on an AMD 64 machine with 1GB RAM.  It
doesn't seem to make any difference whether I set the Ozone Academic as the
default with asoundconf or not--I have installed asoundconf-gtk to make that
easier. The device shows up in JACK (after having mysteriously disappeared
for a couple of sessions) and I can play sound through it with non-JACK
applications as well as Ardour.

What should I do to get sound and MIDI working with this device in
Rosegarden?  Is there any other information I could post for you to help
diagnose the problem? Do you want to see the output of any command-line
tools?

The Academic is a fairly recent version of M-Audio's Ozone audio
interface/keyboard that is part of the Pro-Tools Academic bundle.  It
supposedly does not need a firmware load to run under Linux, unlike previous
versions.  However, I loaded the firmware anyway, having read instructions
for the older versions. The firmware page is located here:
http://usb-midi-fw.sourceforge.net/

I'm happy to wait until after the holiday for an answer, OTOH it would be
gift I could receive joyfully, if you want to play Santa.

Peace,

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Re: mystical world of video

[Paul DeShaw]

 On Sunday 16 December 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:

  On Sunday 16 December 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
   I give DVD authoring on Linux a Go Back To Windows Before You Hurt
   Yourself award.
 
  OTOH, to look at the bright side...

 But back to the dark side, I let the thing churn again overnight, and I
 still
 can't get a DVD out of this.

 A weekend pissed away for nothing, it seems.


FWIW, I have pissed away multiple weekends dealing with playback in
Rosegarden...but maybe the solution is getting closer, I've got several
digests to go through since my last post on the ongoing M-Audio Ozone saga.

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M-Audio Ozone

[Paul DeShaw]

-- Forwarded message --
Yvan Vander Sanden wrote:

Paul DeShaw wrote:



 Like  Yvan, I also have an M-Audio Ozone, but I have been struggling
 for over a year to get it to work properly in Linux.  You are lucky
yours works. If you think you can help, please see this thread:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148467page=5
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148467page=5
 I have stumped everybody on every forum and mail list I have tried.
 Maybe it is just time for new hardware?

I don't know if i mentioned the instructions on my website:
http://youngmusic.org/wiki/index.php/M-Audio_Ozone  ?

Pretty much what I have done already; it's all documented in the thread I
mentioned above.

Did you try the command 'asoundconf list'? Is the ozone mentioned there?


Yes, it is listed as 'Academic'; I have set it as the default card.  Now,
all the system sounds and music players play through it, but Rosegarden is
silent. In  JACK,  there is no  mention of it in the Setup dialog; I am
guessing it is (default) because it is the default soundcard.  I set
(default) as both the in and out. In the Connect window, the MIDI tab does
not show a keyboard. It just has TiMidity and MIDI through.

Regards,

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Re: Automatic launching of programs for removable media/connected devices.

[Paul DeShaw]

 --- On Tue 11/20, Cory K. wrote:



My vote is that disks/drives are mounted but nothing is done. Let the user 
decide.





In the specific case of blank CD's, my vote is the same, just the icon, but 
keep CD Creator or whatever it's called in the contextual menu.  In my 
experience, the app never works when it opens automatically, but I can always 
write the CD by right-clicking and selecting the open with default.



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Tuesday Audio nite at Bellevue LUG

[Paul DeShaw]

Greetings,



I wish I'd said something earlier, but the Bellevue Linux User's Group, in 
Bellevue, Washington, is going to have some computers set up with 64 Studio and 
Ubuntu Studio, for just some informal exploration/messing around; I'll be doing 
some kind of informal presentation--the blind leading the blind, I know, but 
there was no one else.  If any of you live nearby, it would be great if you 
could drop by an lend some expertise.  They meet in the Bellevue Barnes  Noble 
bookstore, 626 106th Ave NE, Bellevue, WA

(425) 451-8463, starting at 7 PM.  It looks like the music presentation will be 
sometime later, maybe 8:00.



Cheers,



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RE: Thank you for Ubuntu Studio 7.10

[Paul DeShaw]

 --- On Mon 11/05, Asmo Koskinen  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:



I just want to thank you, Cory and Alessio, for a fine job with Ubuntu Studio 
7.10.



I just realized I replied to this with a question, and didn't even acknowledge 
the efforts of Cory and everyone.  I am grateful for your willingness to put so 
much time, effort, and love into this project.  When I saw the screenshot of 
JACK recognizing Asmo's M-Audio keyboard, it sort of overshadowed everything 
else, because I have wanted to make this happen for many months.  But I do want 
to know I appreciate all you have done, even though I'm frustrated by my total 
inability to make use of it.



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RE: Thank you for Ubuntu Studio 7.10

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 --- On Mon 11/05, Asmo Koskinen  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:





I just want to thank you, Cory and Alessio, for a fine job with Ubuntu Studio 
7.10.It works now much better with my brand new and shiny Dual 2 Core All Intel 
machine with rt-kernel - no xruns (I did have troubles with Ubuntu 7.04)



HI,



I just wanted to know, did you do anything special to get JACK to recognize 
your M-Audio keyboard? I have never had that happen with my Ozone. According to 
this page, http://usb-midi-fw.sourceforge.net/ this interface should be ok 
with ALSA, but I'm guessing MIDI is a different issue entirely. Also, do you 
see an rt kernal option when you boot up? I installed the rt kernal, but it 
does not appear on that first screen, so I don't know how to select it.



I am running the 32-bit version on an AMD 64 machine.



Thanks,



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Fetching failures

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--- On Tue 11/06, Janne Jokitalo  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

From: Janne Jokitalo [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:04:55 +0200

Subject: Re: Res: Res: failed to fetch



Asmo Koskinen wrote: Pietro Bergamo kirjoitti: This is my 
/etc/apt/source.list There's a lot of edgy and feisty stuff. Could that be 
it?  No - don't mix with feisty and gutsy - you should have only gutsy - if  
you are using Ubuntu 7.10.Good point. But if you intend to dist-upgrade from 
feisty, change every lineso that it reads feisty, then update and use 
update-manager, which willchange you're sources.list when it reaches gutsy as a 
whole.-- Jaska--



That's what worked for me.  I had tried changing every thing to gutsy, and 
doing sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, then sudo apt-get dist 
upgrade, and ran into similar problems.  Then I changed everything back to 
feisty, an used Update Manager, and that worked much better.



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Re: choose gutsy's ubuntu studio art

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+1 flames.  But it looks like I'm out voted.



Can you include the Feisty ones as an option?  Seems like a lot of us like them.



And, thanks for asking!



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Noob says hello

[Paul DeShaw]

Hi,



Before annoying you with questions that have been asked before, is there a way 
to search the archives, other than just scanning them visually?



I have been fooling around with Linux audio for over a year, and have not been 
able to produce anything, because I can't get JACK, ALSA, the apps, and the 
hardware all working together.  I also have a MacBook-based Pro Tools setup, 
and was hoping to use the same interface for both systems, to save money, which 
is scarce.



Pro Tools is so bloated, buggy, and expensive that I would _love_ to abandon 
it, at least for personal projects.



FWIW I am also on linux-audio-users, and frequent Ubuntu forums.  I find audio 
questions are so diffused throughout the Ubuntu forums that it's hard to get 
your question seen by the person who can answer it.  I was hoping if I got to a 
place where audio geeks congregate I could get the information I need.



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