Re: Ubuntu-quality Digest, Vol 75, Issue 7

2014-01-08 Thread irlandes
I suggest you look into that before saying Sorry this just won't
work.  Unless you have some other basis for your argument that you
aren't sharing?

Actually, yes, I do have some other basis. I have used Puppy for a long
time, and at one time wrote a fix for a problem they had. Both people
who sent me negative mails have obviously admitted Lubuntu would be a
very minimal, low function, core distro on such a minimal computer. And,
I never said Lubuntu, I said Ubuntu, a full service distro.

Puppy lets you do a wide range of activities, even at the older
versions.

I so stand by my statement. However, I am bailing from this mail list as
soon as I figure out how. Enough is enough. You folks remind me of the
early days of Linux. I thought we were past that.



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 I suggest you look into that before saying Sorry this just won't
 work.  Unless you have some other basis for your argument that you
 aren't sharing?
 
 


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LyX download size

2012-04-04 Thread irlandes
Here is the list of LyX dependencies on 10.04, list obtained by apt-get
remove and then cancel:

The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:
  texlive-extra-utils texlive-base texlive-pictures-doc
texlive-fonts-recommended doc-base texlive-pstricks-doc dvipng lmodern
texlive-common
  texlive-latex-extra-doc libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a texlive-pstricks luatex
preview-latex-style ttf-lyx prosper tipa
  texlive-latex-recommended-doc texlive-latex-base-doc libkpathsea5
libboost-signals1.40.0 libt1-5 libaiksaurus-1.2-data texlive-latex-extra
  texlive-binaries lyx-common libmldbm-perl libuuid-perl pgf
texlive-latex-recommended texlive-generic-recommended texlive-latex-base
  texlive-fonts-recommended-doc libfreezethaw-perl ps2eps latex-beamer
texlive-luatex texlive-font-utils latex-xcolor texlive-doc-base
  tex-common lacheck texlive-pictures



I remember LyX as having a really big download, but don't have a
computer to dink with. I have used LyX to produce a book.

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 Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 23:04:25 +0300
 From: Merhebi, Bob bobmerh...@gmail.com
 To: ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: LyX in Precise: too big
 Message-ID: 4f7b57c9.9060...@gmail.com
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 Hello guys,
 
 Today I thought i'd install LyX to test it out on Precise, but I was
 shocked with its download size. I didn't install!!!
 
 Here's what I asked in the LyX mailing list:
 
 I've been testing Ubuntu12.04 lately  just now I 
 was thinking of using LyX on it. TO my big surprise the LyX requires a 
 large download of ~450 MB+. I am shocked!!! IS that the true size? If 
 not mistaken I recall that on 10.04 it required ~ 25MB. Am I mistaken? 
 Is there something wrong?
 
 And  here's two replies I got:
 
 1) The download from Ubuntu was probably a debug build. These are much
 larger than the release build. You might want to contact the Ubuntu
 project and let them know that the build is much larger than expected.
 
 Another idea is that they may have changed the LaTeX dependencies. If
 so, it might be downloading a lot of extra TeX packages that aren't 
 needed.
 
 Regardless, I would definitely get in touch with the Ubuntu project. To
 the best of my knowledge, they don't subscribe to this list, and it's
 something that they will want to hear about.
 
 
 2) I am also suspecting that your total download size contains a bunch of
 LaTeX dependencies
 
 It is worth noting that LyX 2.0.3 that is currently installed on my
 Lucid (by ppa) has a total size of 10.5MB, while that in Precise's
 Software Center is about 450MB (download)  700MB+ (install).
 
 So I thought I'd get your thoughts on this  on how to proceed! Who 
 how (launchpad?) should be notified about this?
 
 thanks
 
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 -Merhebi, Bob
 
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Slow DSL

2011-09-16 Thread irlandes
I think you have been given a good solution to slow service, Bob. But,
another option depending upon your exact problem is the command wget.

wget -c url.iso

lets you stop download and start again at your convenience.  You can
download a few MB, and start again, even many days later, with no data
lost, as long as the iso has not been changed.

It expects to find previous downloads in the directory where the
terminal is setting, and if it is not there, will restart the download.

It seems to me, by defective memory, that there are mirrored images of a
small net iso which is designed to download other things desired. But, I
can't remember if Ubuntu actually lets you select which packages to
download, like debian does or not.

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 Hello,
 
 I'm Bob  have been using Ubuntu for the past several years. Currently
 using 10.04 LTS  possibly waiting for 12.04 (LTS ?).
 
 As much as I'd like to be part of the laptop testing team, the issue of
 downloading the iso is an obstacle. MY connection speed  bandwidth is a
 DSL but is very limited; is there an alternative solution ?
 
 thanks
 
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 Hi Bob,
 
 thanks for the interest you have shown in assisting. The good news is that
 there is a method to keep your images up to date without need to download a
 completely fresh iso each time. It is covered at
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage which also mentions the
 excellent ubuntu-qa-tools.
 
 Regards,
 
 Phill.
 
 On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:53 PM, BOB Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I'm Bob  have been using Ubuntu for the past several years. Currently
  using 10.04 LTS  possibly waiting for 12.04 (LTS ?).
 
  As much as I'd like to be part of the laptop testing team, the issue of
  downloading the iso is an obstacle. MY connection speed  bandwidth is a
  DSL but is very limited; is there an alternative solution ?
 
  thanks
 
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Updates to 10.04 okay, but...

2010-05-07 Thread irlandes
I have two machines, an old desktop which had 9.10 on it. I updated it
online, and it worked okay but no audio for youtube. I finally realized
something in the mixer was shut off.   This was a minor problem for an
experienced user, but could be bad for a newbie.

That machine seems to work okay, and the Firefox browser scrolls
smoothly with the up and down arrows. (I had this problem on my main
machine with 9.10.)

On the main machine, I first cloned the entire HD to an external HD just
in case, because this one has all the good stuff on it.

It updated fine.  The Firefox browser still scrolls in a very unpleasant
manner. Further stated, it is simply not acceptable. So, it is not
something in the 1500+ files updated.

So, I installed via CD ISO to an empty partition. This one, Firefox
scrolls perfectly. To be frank, I have no idea where to start. I may
look at plugins or extensions and see if removing something helps.

I would prefer to solve the problem if I can, but with no ideas where to
start and some serious deadlines on personal projects, I don't know how
well I will do.

In general 10.04 looks fine.  I have a lot of work to get the other
partition working exactly as I want.  I will let y'all know if I find
something on the scrolling problem.



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Keep a close eye on Firefox for Lucid

2010-04-05 Thread irlandes
I just got an automatic download for Firefox 3.6.3 on 9.10, and I tell
you it is murdered on my Dell Vostro A860 laptop.  We sure don't want
anything like that shipped on Lucid.

I will also be looking at it as best as I can.

Originally, Firefox would scroll down the page well, with Page up or
Page down, or up and down arrows.

Then, I started having problems with Digg. If the cursor touched a
share icon, it wouldn't move and I had to reclick the page to scroll
at all.

Then, it got worse like now. I downloaded a scroll smoother, and though
it still worked clumsily, it started working again.

Last week, when I got an update note, it changed from 3.6.2 to 3.6.3.
Since then it has been so bad I am thinking of installing Opera which
should be not needed.

I tried Smooth scroller again. I tried turning on and off auto scrolling
and smoothing, in the preferences menu.

Down arrow takes to the bottom, then it won't go up again.  Page down
moves one little jump, then you need to click the page again, then one
more little jump.

with the cursor in the up/down bar at the right, it sometimes goes up
and down, but that means when I look at a snapshot sequence, I have to
keep moving the arrow back and forth, a lot of work on a laptop with
sense pad.

Sometimes, even with auto-scrolling turned off, when I click on the
up/down bar, it takes off running all the way to the end as if I had
autoscrolling on, and nothing I do will stop it.

As I said, I will do my best on Beta, but if something like this gets
out in Lucid, we are going to get a lot of negative reviews, and a lot
of newbs are going to walk away.

As I said, I will do my best on 10.04 to make sure nothing like this
gets shipped. It is disgusting.



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Second problem on firefox, sorry, forgot.

2010-04-05 Thread irlandes
I forgot.  Also now depending upon where the cursor is, I get a big
blinking bar all the way to the bottom, sometimes it is real wide.  This
started at the same time.  I can eliminate it by clicking elsewhere.

Reminder this is in Firefox 3.6.3 automatic update on 9.10, but that
means there is some sick Firefox stuff out there just as we are ready to
finalize 10.04.


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