Re: [ubuntu-in] 64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage, (and problems in i5 processor)

2010-08-17 Thread S. Kartik


 Hi

 was starting to download 64 bit at
 http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download

 then saw this message along side the button to check for which version to
 download
 64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage

 so why is 64 bit not recommended for daily usage ??

 **
 An aquaintance recently installed 64 bit on an i  5 processor machine with
 the following kernel

 2.6.32-24-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 28 05:14:15 UTC 2010 x86_64
 GNU/Linux

 and is  experiencing strange system freezes - the system just locks up -
 nothing works not even Ctrl+alt+backspace and has to power off to get the
 machine back to boot and then it gets stuck in checking disk and after a
 long long while it gets to login screen

 **
 look forward to advise

 ram

I have switched over to from 32 bit to 64 bit since the launch of 
Maverick Meerkat.
So far have not faced any major issues. Only problem which I faced was 
that google earth does not run on 64 bit.
Probably the issue is of RAM, one should have at least 3-4 GB RAM to run 
64 bit systems. It is worth a try if you have the hardware. I have a 
Dell Vostro laptop with 3 GB RAM.
regards
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Re: [ubuntu-in] 64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage, (and problems in i5 processor)

2010-08-17 Thread Ramnarayan.K
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:21 PM, S. Kartik drskar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have switched over to from 32 bit to 64 bit since the launch of
 Maverick Meerkat.
 So far have not faced any major issues. Only problem which I faced was
 that google earth does not run on 64 bit.
 Probably the issue is of RAM, one should have at least 3-4 GB RAM to run
 64 bit systems. It is worth a try if you have the hardware. I have a
 Dell Vostro laptop with 3 GB RAM.


Am testing the machine own, personally, ;-) its a fantastic i5 lenovo with 4
Gig RAM.

Google earth runs fine, as does everything else.

am Using the 64 bit Ubuntu OS.

It has an NVidia Card which is  not yet running of the propreitory driver,
so just installing that to see if it will resolve the problem.

ram
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Re: [ubuntu-in] 64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage, (and problems in i5 processor)

2010-08-17 Thread Vishnoo
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 22:21 +0530, S. Kartik wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  was starting to download 64 bit at
  http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
 
  then saw this message along side the button to check for which version to
  download
  64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage
 
  so why is 64 bit not recommended for daily usage ??
 
  **

Hi,
You might be interested in also reading this bug,
 'Text reads not recommended for 64-bit' :
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/585940

Though the bug gets a bit crazy, a few of the problems are mentioned
too.

comment #64:
Based on the feedback of the Ubuntu engineering team we do not think
it's wise to recommend the 64b version.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] 64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage, (and problems in i5 processor)

2010-08-17 Thread Brian D'Souza
The problem is some programs just dont run with 64bit system. I could not
the 32bit internet connecting binary from my 64bit lucid install. Hence had
to fall back on 32 bit.

Also there are many programs just not available in 64 bit.

-  brian

On Aug 18, 2010 10:39 AM, Jkhatri khatri.ja...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday 17 August 2010 10:34 PM, Narendra Diwate wrote:



 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:21, S
You have to install 32bit library


If you have 64bit supported hardware then you should ( again should ) go
with 64bit OSs


I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and Fedora 13 dual-boot ( both 64bit ) and runs
fine on my Dell Inspiron 1564 core i5 processor, 4Gb DDR RAM , 1GB ATI
Graphics cared

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Re: [ubuntu-in] 64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage, (and problems in i5 processor)

2010-08-17 Thread Jkhatri

On Wednesday 18 August 2010 10:43 AM, Brian D'Souza wrote:


The problem is some programs just dont run with 64bit system. I could 
not the 32bit internet connecting binary from my 64bit lucid install. 
Hence had to fall back on 32 bit.


Also there are many programs just not available in 64 bit.

-  brian



Will you mention some of that programs ???  If you don't mind please

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On Aug 18, 2010 10:39 AM, Jkhatri khatri.ja...@gmail.com 
mailto:khatri.ja...@gmail.com wrote:


On Tuesday 17 August 2010 10:34 PM, Narendra Diwate wrote:



 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:21, S

You have to install 32bit library


If you have 64bit supported hardware then you should ( again 
should ) go with 64bit OSs



I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and Fedora 13 dual-boot ( both 64bit ) and 
runs fine on my Dell Inspiron 1564 core i5 processor, 4Gb DDR RAM , 
1GB ATI Graphics cared


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www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jatin 
http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jatin


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Re: [ubuntu-in] 64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage, (and problems in i5 processor)

2010-08-17 Thread Jkhatri

On Wednesday 18 August 2010 10:43 AM, Brian D'Souza wrote:


The problem is some programs just dont run with 64bit system. I could 
not the 32bit internet connecting binary from my 64bit lucid install. 
Hence had to fall back on 32 bit.


Also there are many programs just not available in 64 bit.

-  brian



will you tell me what problem do you face on i5 processor ???

Warm Regards

Jatin Khatri

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www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jatin http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jatin

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Re: [ubuntu-in] 64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage, (and problems in i5 processor)

2010-08-17 Thread Brian D'Souza
Oh I didn't see the convo was for i5 processor.

I use an amd64 processor

-  brian
sent from my android phone

On Aug 18, 2010 11:00 AM, Jkhatri khatri.ja...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday 18 August 2010 10:43 AM, Brian D'Souza wrote:



 The problem is some programs just dont run with 64bit system. I could not
the 32bit internet co...
will you tell me what problem do you face on i5 processor ???

Warm Regards


Jatin Khatri

Web www.khatrijatin.co.nr

www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jatin

Phone (+91) 98250 20393
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Re: [ubuntu-in] 64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage (and problems in i5 processor)

2010-08-16 Thread Narendra Diwate
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 02:25, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 was starting to download 64 bit at
 http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download

 then saw this message along side the button to check for which version to
 download 64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage. so why is 64
 bit not recommended for daily usage ??
 **
 An aquaintance recently installed 64 bit on an i  5 processor machine with
 the following kernel 2.6.32-24-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 28 05:14:15
 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux and is  experiencing strange system freezes - the
 system just locks up - nothing works not even Ctrl+alt+backspace and has to
 power off to get the machine back to boot and then it gets stuck in checking
 disk and after a long long while it gets to login screen
 **
 look forward to advise



Well I have been using 64 bit Ubuntu ever since i migrated from Opensuse 64
bit and i have not faced any of those nagging issues. Its as stable as any
OS can be, 32 bit or 64 bit.

As for the msg on Ubuntu site there is a whole lot of discussion going on on
Ubuntu forums. I personally believe, the msg is extremely misleading and
does not clarify what or why.

As for your friends issues, is it a dual boot - does he have similar issues
with the other OS. If not is the harddisk good, i.e bad sectors, old age
etc. I had similar issue with my system very recently and even posted a
query on this list, but no one responded. However i diagnosed the problem to
a loosened RAM card and now the system is as good as ever. Ask him also to
rum memtest on his RAM after checking for proper fit in the slot.

If its a laptop then, theres a lot more to consider.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] 64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage (and problems in i5 processor)

2010-08-16 Thread Abhinav Modi
Hi Ram,

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 was starting to download 64 bit at
 http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download

 then saw this message along side the button to check for which version to
 download
 64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage

 so why is 64 bit not recommended for daily usage ??


I think there are some open issues related to specific apps, java,
flash etc. This is the reason for the warning.

Having said that, I have 64 bit Ubuntu installed on 1 Desktop and 1
Laptop, both new, and haven't faced any blocking issues.. Java, Flash
etc work fine (probably needed to do some install of non-default
packages - for example, Java version shipped with Ubuntu is currently
the icedtea package, which has issues with some web sites). Workaround
is to remove this and install Sun java.


 **
 An aquaintance recently installed 64 bit on an i  5 processor machine with
 the following kernel

 2.6.32-24-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 28 05:14:15 UTC 2010 x86_64
 GNU/Linux

 and is  experiencing strange system freezes - the system just locks up -
 nothing works not even Ctrl+alt+backspace and has to power off to get the
 machine back to boot and then it gets stuck in checking disk and after a
 long long while it gets to login screen


I do see some random freezes once in a while on the laptop which is an
i7. Not sure of the reason, probably compiz. But it is not frequent
enough to be frustating, like BSOD :)

Let me know if you need any further specifics

Thanks !
Abhinav

http://indimark.blogspot.com
http://www.employees.org/~abhinav/blog

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