[Bug 1762287] Re: Offer Ubuntu customizations in new user mode too

2018-08-15 Thread Jeremy Soller
You can use this in initial-setup.json:

"stylesheetName": "gdm3.css"

This is what we use in Pop, in order to use the same theme as gdm3. That
theme may be changed by alternatives, and is already a link to
ubuntu.css on Ubuntu.

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[Bug 1762287] Re: Offer Ubuntu customizations in new user mode too

2018-04-10 Thread Jeremy Bicha
I was just assuming that XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP wasn't being set there at
all (it's not really a desktop) but I didn't test it.

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[Bug 1762287] Re: Offer Ubuntu customizations in new user mode too

2018-04-10 Thread Robert Ancell
I applied the part of the patch that shows the account/password screens
in new user mode. For the XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP check - should we make GDM
set this to ubuntu:GNOME? I think that makes more sense. Not sure where
this is set though.

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[Bug 1762287] Re: Offer Ubuntu customizations in new user mode too

2018-04-10 Thread Robert Ancell
** Changed in: gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Triaged

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[Bug 1762287] Re: Offer Ubuntu customizations in new user mode too

2018-04-08 Thread Ubuntu Foundations Team Bug Bot
** Tags added: patch

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[Bug 1762287] Re: Offer Ubuntu customizations in new user mode too

2018-04-08 Thread Jeremy Bicha
** Description changed:

  GNOME Initial Setup offers two modes, existing user and new user mode.
  Pop!_OS and Fedora (new in next months' Fedora 28 release) use the new
  user mode. The new user mode runs full screen in GDM when there are no
  non-system users on the computer. It adds two additional pages: a user
  name page and a password page.
  
  In my testing at the end of the wizard, it logged me in (without needing
  to pick my name and enter my password yet again) and loaded the GNOME
  Getting Started help.
  
  I am attaching a small patch to apply against gnome-initial-setup
  3.28.0-2ubuntu1 that uses the new Ubuntu version of gnome-initial-setup
  instead of the GNOME version in the new user mode.
  
  I am not proposing that Ubuntu switch to new user mode by default in
  18.04. It's an interesting option that could be useful to some OEMs as
  an alternative to ubiquity's OEM mode.
  
  I am attaching screenshots so you can get an idea of how this works
  without needing to go through the effort of trying it out.
  
  Try It Out
  ==
  (on a virtual machine or where you have backed up all your home directories!)
  - Start Ubuntu 18.04 into recovery mode. (Hold Shift when starting and select 
the option in grub).
  - Select clean. (This will run apt autoremove, but more importantly, it will 
mount / read-write).
  - Select root. Press enter to reach the command prompt
  - Run. (Replace 'jeremy' with your username. Repeat for every user that would 
show up in gdm's login window).
  sudo deluser --remove-home jeremy
  exit
  - Select resume.
  
  This should now start the New User mode.
  
  Issues
  ==
  1. The theme is using Adwaita instead of Ambiance
+ The home directory for the gnome-initial-setup system user is set to 
/run/gnome-initial-setup.
  
  2. My patch feels a bit of a hack since it also forces other flavors to
  use the Ubuntu version for gnome-initial-setup and wouldn't be
  acceptable as is upstream. But "vanilla GNOME" doesn't make an ISO and
  Pop!_OS uses a custom pop-gnome-initial-setup anyway.
+ 
+ Perhaps we could have gnome-initial-setup in new user mode set
+ XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Ubuntu. That would fix the theme problem. Or we
+ could maybe have it call the gsettings command to set the themes and
+ fonts before it runs the main binary.
  
  3. The Privacy link doesn't work. We should switch it to using a webkit-
  powered popup like upstream does for their privacy link.
  
  4. We need to hide the "Open Software now" link in new user mode. It
  actually does work and opens the Software app which is not a good idea
  here.
+ 
+ 5. The Livepatch dialog doesn't open.
+ 
+ 6. I guess we should add "stylesheetName": "ubuntu.css", to /usr/share
+ /gnome-shell/modes/initial-setup.json

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[Bug 1762287] Re: Offer Ubuntu customizations in new user mode too

2018-04-08 Thread Jeremy Bicha
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[Bug 1762287] Re: Offer Ubuntu customizations in new user mode too

2018-04-08 Thread Jeremy Bicha
** Attachment added: "gnome-initial-setup-password-ok.png"
   
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[Bug 1762287] Re: Offer Ubuntu customizations in new user mode too

2018-04-08 Thread Jeremy Bicha
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[Bug 1762287] Re: Offer Ubuntu customizations in new user mode too

2018-04-08 Thread Jeremy Bicha
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[Bug 1762287] [NEW] Offer Ubuntu customizations in new user mode too

2018-04-08 Thread Jeremy Bicha
Public bug reported:

GNOME Initial Setup offers two modes, existing user and new user mode.
Pop!_OS and Fedora (new in next months' Fedora 28 release) use the new
user mode. The new user mode runs full screen in GDM when there are no
non-system users on the computer. It adds two additional pages: a user
name page and a password page.

In my testing at the end of the wizard, it logged me in (without needing
to pick my name and enter my password yet again) and loaded the GNOME
Getting Started help.

I am attaching a small patch to apply against gnome-initial-setup
3.28.0-2ubuntu1 that uses the new Ubuntu version of gnome-initial-setup
instead of the GNOME version in the new user mode.

I am not proposing that Ubuntu switch to new user mode by default in
18.04. It's an interesting option that could be useful to some OEMs as
an alternative to ubiquity's OEM mode.

I am attaching screenshots so you can get an idea of how this works
without needing to go through the effort of trying it out.

Try It Out
==
(on a virtual machine or where you have backed up all your home directories!)
- Start Ubuntu 18.04 into recovery mode. (Hold Shift when starting and select 
the option in grub).
- Select clean. (This will run apt autoremove, but more importantly, it will 
mount / read-write).
- Select root. Press enter to reach the command prompt
- Run. (Replace 'jeremy' with your username. Repeat for every user that would 
show up in gdm's login window).
sudo deluser --remove-home jeremy
exit
- Select resume.

This should now start the New User mode.

Issues
==
1. The theme is using Adwaita instead of Ambiance

2. My patch feels a bit of a hack since it also forces other flavors to
use the Ubuntu version for gnome-initial-setup and wouldn't be
acceptable as is upstream. But "vanilla GNOME" doesn't make an ISO and
Pop!_OS uses a custom pop-gnome-initial-setup anyway.

3. The Privacy link doesn't work. We should switch it to using a webkit-
powered popup like upstream does for their privacy link.

4. We need to hide the "Open Software now" link in new user mode. It
actually does work and opens the Software app which is not a good idea
here.

** Affects: gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Wishlist
 Status: New


** Tags: bionic

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[Bug 1762287] Re: Offer Ubuntu customizations in new user mode too

2018-04-08 Thread Jeremy Bicha
** Patch added: "ubuntu-welcome-new-user.patch"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+bug/1762287/+attachment/5107407/+files/ubuntu-welcome-new-user.patch

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] New User Documentation

2015-10-22 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015, at 01:28 PM, C. F. Howlett wrote:
> I have had a project in mind for some time.
> 
> Ubuntu used to include GIMP.  On the desktop, there was a tutorial to 
> introduce very basic GIMP functions in the form of a user-built Ubuntu 
> logo image.  Cool stuff.  Sadly, removed in later releases. Likewise the 
> old Ubuntu sample media folder.
> 
> So, to my project;
> 
> Target audience: "I just installed ubuntustudio.  Now what?" people
> 
> Format: a series of easy peasy, introductory tutorials using the major 
> apps in the focus areas.  For instance:
> 
> SOUND > AUDACITY > Record your voice.  Sample and remove background 
> noise.  Edit sound for  Darth Vader voice.  Save and export.
> 
> Upon completion of the project, supply at least one tutorial. 
> Fortunately, the major apps already have basic tutorials.  We just need 
> to highlight them.
> 
> Obviously, this is not the in-depth documentation currently under 
> discussion in another channel, but I believe it fills a need and would 
> give useful and welcome advice.
> 
> I'm not qualified to do all the tutorials, but I am willing to edit and 
> standardize the writing.  Any interest???
> 


This sounds a bit like the idea we had for the youtube videos. Practical
tutorials sort of thing. I wouldn't mind having both videos and text,
though as you say, there are existing tutorials for most major
applications. Doesn't mean we can't make our own.

I'm thinking about how documentation should be organized. Tutorials
would deserve their own section. If we have a main "Documentation" page
on our website, it could have several subpages, and one of them could be
something equivalent to "Tutorials", where you can find all sorts of
resources, either our own made material, or links to existing stuff.

So, I'm all for it.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] New User Documentation

2015-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 13:33:02 +0100, floccul...@gmx.co.uk wrote:
>On 21/10/15 12:55, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 19:28:38 +0800, C. F. Howlett wrote:  
>>> I'm not qualified to do all the tutorials, but I am willing to edit
>>> and standardize the writing.  Any interest???  
>> A proofreader [translator for Phantom English to English English]
>> would be useful for the Ubuntu (Studio) help and Wiki pages ;).
>>  
>perhaps host it on LP like xubuntu-docs
>
>then even when it's dealt with now - fixes can be followed from bug to
>fix
>
>it can also then (I assume) be translated as well
>
>just a thought

I just wanted to point out that users like me probably have knowledge
about a software domain, but will write help pages and Wikis in broken
English. Since everybody can create an Ubuntu One account, everybody
can edit the help pages and Wikis. Any changes made are stored by the
page histories, so nothing gets lost, if somebody edits it, even if
somebody by accident should remove the entire text.

We shouldn't invent concepts of rocket science to provide help
pages/Wikis. The concept of a Wiki is very simple and already worked for
a long time. Let's stay with the KISS principle,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle.

If you find any errors or if you even could provide useful links go and
edit

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UserGuide/Graphics/draftpage
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UserGuide/Video
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/TroubleShooting
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryUbuntuStudio

and other pages.

Some contributed much, e.g. Set and Kaj, others contributed close to
nothing, e.g. me. Many a little makes a mickle. The German
equivalent saying: "Small domestic animals poo too." (Kleinvieh macht
auch Mist.)

Regards,
Ralf

PS: Unfortunately the login is a PITA. It takes very long and often
fails.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] New User Documentation

2015-10-21 Thread flocculant

On 21/10/15 12:55, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 19:28:38 +0800, C. F. Howlett wrote:

I'm not qualified to do all the tutorials, but I am willing to edit
and standardize the writing.  Any interest???

A proofreader [translator for Phantom English to English English]
would be useful for the Ubuntu (Studio) help and Wiki pages ;).


perhaps host it on LP like xubuntu-docs

then even when it's dealt with now - fixes can be followed from bug to fix

it can also then (I assume) be translated as well

just a thought


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[ubuntu-studio-devel] New User Documentation

2015-10-21 Thread C. F. Howlett

I have had a project in mind for some time.

Ubuntu used to include GIMP.  On the desktop, there was a tutorial to 
introduce very basic GIMP functions in the form of a user-built Ubuntu 
logo image.  Cool stuff.  Sadly, removed in later releases. Likewise the 
old Ubuntu sample media folder.


So, to my project;

Target audience: "I just installed ubuntustudio.  Now what?" people

Format: a series of easy peasy, introductory tutorials using the major 
apps in the focus areas.  For instance:


SOUND > AUDACITY > Record your voice.  Sample and remove background 
noise.  Edit sound for  Darth Vader voice.  Save and export.


Upon completion of the project, supply at least one tutorial. 
Fortunately, the major apps already have basic tutorials.  We just need 
to highlight them.


Obviously, this is not the in-depth documentation currently under 
discussion in another channel, but I believe it fills a need and would 
give useful and welcome advice.


I'm not qualified to do all the tutorials, but I am willing to edit and 
standardize the writing.  Any interest???


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] New User Documentation

2015-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 19:28:38 +0800, C. F. Howlett wrote:
>I'm not qualified to do all the tutorials, but I am willing to edit
>and standardize the writing.  Any interest???

A proofreader [translator for Phantom English to English English]
would be useful for the Ubuntu (Studio) help and Wiki pages ;).

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Re: [ubuntu-in] A new user!

2007-10-15 Thread Yang Xiaofeng
Mohan Dasaratha Rao 写道:
 Hi everybody!
 I am new Linux and Ubuntu. I have been using MS windows for nearly 27 
 years and was yearning to change to open source software. Ubuntu has 
 given me an opportunity to try now. My PC has a dual boot arrangement 
 with Windows XP and Ubuntu 7.04. I am writing this e-mail after 
 booting my PC with Ubuntu OS. I am a retired mechanical engineer and 
 looking to explore the new technologies and frontiers. I am pleased to 
 join the mailing list to know more about Ubuntu, tweak it and 
 experiment with it. Though I am not a coder, I am preparing myself to 
 become one. Greetings to everyone.

 -- 
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 Even at 58, learning never ceases!
 கற்றது கை மண்ணளவு
 स्त्य मेव जयते
 my blog site: http://mohand71.blogspot.com/ 
Greetings! Welcome to the world of Ubuntu! ;-)

p.s. you've been using windows for 27 years ??? windows comes from 1985  
and now is 2007...


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Re: [ubuntu-in] A new user!

2007-10-15 Thread Yang Xiaofeng
nan budh 写道:
 welcome Dr Mohan,
 I would extend all possible help you require. I am new to linux 
 /ubuntu too.
 27 years? whoa! I remember IBM came to chandigarh in early 80 and DOS 
 was introduced in our school. But GUI windows came in 95, no?I do 
 understand that mac's gui is earlier than windows.
 anyway welcome sir. since you want to experiment why dont you start 
 learning python? its quite fun. i have just started on python and django.
 And lookout for ubuntu 7.10. I have been on 6.06 since release and am 
 eagerly waiting for 7.10.
 regards nanbudh

 */Mohan Dasaratha Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

 Hi everybody!
 I am new Linux and Ubuntu. I have been using MS windows for nearly
 27 years and was yearning to change to open source software.
 Ubuntu has given me an opportunity to try now. My PC has a dual
 boot arrangement with Windows XP and Ubuntu 7.04. I am writing
 this e-mail after booting my PC with Ubuntu OS. I am a retired
 mechanical engineer and looking to explore the new technologies
 and frontiers. I am pleased to join the mailing list to know more
 about Ubuntu, tweak it and experiment with it. Though I am not a
 coder, I am preparing myself to become one. Greetings to everyone.

 -- 
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[ubuntu-in] A new user!

2007-10-14 Thread Mohan Dasaratha Rao
Hi everybody!
I am new Linux and Ubuntu. I have been using MS windows for nearly 27 years
and was yearning to change to open source software. Ubuntu has given me an
opportunity to try now. My PC has a dual boot arrangement with Windows XP
and Ubuntu 7.04. I am writing this e-mail after booting my PC with Ubuntu
OS. I am a retired mechanical engineer and looking to explore the new
technologies and frontiers. I am pleased to join the mailing list to know
more about Ubuntu, tweak it and experiment with it. Though I am not a coder,
I am preparing myself to become one. Greetings to everyone.

-- 
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Re: [ubuntu-in] A new user!

2007-10-14 Thread nan budh
welcome Dr Mohan,
I would extend all possible help you require. I am new to linux /ubuntu too. 
27 years? whoa! I remember IBM came to chandigarh in early 80 and DOS was 
introduced in our school. But GUI windows came in 95, no?I do understand that 
mac's gui is earlier than windows.
anyway welcome sir. since you want to experiment why dont you start learning 
python? its quite fun. i have just started on python and django.
And lookout for ubuntu 7.10. I have been on 6.06 since release and am eagerly 
waiting for 7.10. 
regards nanbudh

Mohan Dasaratha Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody!
I am new Linux and Ubuntu. I have been using MS windows for nearly 27 years and 
was yearning to change to open source software. Ubuntu has given me an 
opportunity to try now. My PC has a dual boot arrangement with Windows XP and 
Ubuntu  7.04. I am writing this e-mail after booting my PC with Ubuntu OS. I am 
a retired mechanical engineer and looking to explore the new technologies and 
frontiers. I am pleased to join the mailing list to know more about Ubuntu, 
tweak it and experiment with it. Though I am not a coder, I am preparing myself 
to become one. Greetings to everyone. 

-- 
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Re: [ubuntu-in] A new user!

2007-10-14 Thread innercircle
Dear Mr. Mohan,

It is industry veterans like you who can independently provide an insight to
Indian SMEs about the benefits of robust systems like Linux and specifically
Ubuntu.

Welcome to the world of Linux in general and Ubuntu in particular!

Wishing the best for your experiments to be fruitful.

Regards,

Rajesh
http://www.p2paccounts.com


Quoting Mohan Dasaratha Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi everybody!
 I am new Linux and Ubuntu. I have been using MS windows for nearly 27 years
 and was yearning to change to open source software. Ubuntu has given me an
 opportunity to try now. My PC has a dual boot arrangement with Windows XP
 and Ubuntu 7.04. I am writing this e-mail after booting my PC with Ubuntu
 OS. I am a retired mechanical engineer and looking to explore the new
 technologies and frontiers. I am pleased to join the mailing list to know
 more about Ubuntu, tweak it and experiment with it. Though I am not a coder,
 I am preparing myself to become one. Greetings to everyone.

 --
 D. Mohan
 Even at 58, learning never ceases!
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Re: [ubuntu-in] A new user!

2007-10-14 Thread innercircle
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Dear Mr. Mohan,

 It is industry veterans like you who can independently provide an insight to
 Indian SMEs about the benefits of robust systems like Linux and specifically
 Ubuntu.

 Welcome to the world of Linux in general and Ubuntu in particular!

 Wishing the best for your experiments to be fruitful.

 Regards,

 Rajesh
 http://www.p2paccounts.com


 Quoting Mohan Dasaratha Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi everybody!
 I am new Linux and Ubuntu. I have been using MS windows for nearly 27 years
 and was yearning to change to open source software. Ubuntu has given me an
 opportunity to try now. My PC has a dual boot arrangement with Windows XP
 and Ubuntu 7.04. I am writing this e-mail after booting my PC with Ubuntu
 OS. I am a retired mechanical engineer and looking to explore the new
 technologies and frontiers. I am pleased to join the mailing list to know
 more about Ubuntu, tweak it and experiment with it. Though I am not a coder,
 I am preparing myself to become one. Greetings to everyone.

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 D. Mohan
 Even at 58, learning never ceases!
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 my blog site: http://mohand71.blogspot.com/





Being extremely excited to see someone embracing Ubuntu after being 
with M$ for
27 years, I totally forgot that I was top posting to Mr Rao's opening post as
New User earlier!

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Regards,

Rajesh


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