Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical only to send free cd's to developers
On 12/05/2009 09:04 PM, Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan wrote: http://www.workswithu.com/2009/11/18/who-deserves-free-ubuntu-cds-more/ This will make it harder for many people to get ubuntu. I have seen so many people who wouldn't download anything more than a 100MB because of money or speed. But from the beginning I did think that giving free CDs was outrageous! What could be the alternatives? Could we make ubuntu CDs together with printed CD covers (we could make a custom Ubuntu india CD cover)? The cost would vary accourding to the resources we could use: a CD is for Rs12 approx, and printing can be done from a shop or with a printer. These CDs could be distributed to local bookstores and shop. We could divide the management of this distrubution according to the area we live in. I think I remember reading that we could definitely sell custom Ubuntu CDs ( I don't think I remember correctly, please confirm). But if we could, we could use it wisely. I vote for non-profit. The difficult part would be making the shops agree. The other project we could undertake is either ( somehow ) getting a shipit like program within India itself. I don't know how will that be made possible. I am still to even get my own bank account. But just suggesting. PS: It was my small time dream that I would earn a lot, and help in advertising Ubuntu. -- Ashutosh Rishi Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish Can we arrange something like Free Media programs like fedora does ( I'm distributing Fedora and ubuntu at no charges, just one need to carry blank CD/DVD and exchange with Fedora/Ubuntu ) just like barter system. -- Jatin Khatri Web www.khatrijatin.co.nr http://www.khatrijatin.co.nr/ www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jatin http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jatin Phone (+91) 98250 20393 Hü Save Paper, Save Environment. P /*(Plant at least one tree in your life and nurture it !!!)*/ -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical only to send free cd's to developers
very good idea. whether exchange can be done by ordinary Post? -sriranga(77yrsold) On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Jkhatri khatri.ja...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/05/2009 09:04 PM, Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan wrote: http://www.workswithu.com/2009/11/18/who-deserves-free-ubuntu-cds-more/ This will make it harder for many people to get ubuntu. I have seen so many people who wouldn't download anything more than a 100MB because of money or speed. But from the beginning I did think that giving free CDs was outrageous! What could be the alternatives? Could we make ubuntu CDs together with printed CD covers (we could make a custom Ubuntu india CD cover)? The cost would vary accourding to the resources we could use: a CD is for Rs12 approx, and printing can be done from a shop or with a printer. These CDs could be distributed to local bookstores and shop. We could divide the management of this distrubution according to the area we live in. I think I remember reading that we could definitely sell custom Ubuntu CDs ( I don't think I remember correctly, please confirm). But if we could, we could use it wisely. I vote for non-profit. The difficult part would be making the shops agree. The other project we could undertake is either ( somehow ) getting a shipit like program within India itself. I don't know how will that be made possible. I am still to even get my own bank account. But just suggesting. PS: It was my small time dream that I would earn a lot, and help in advertising Ubuntu. -- Ashutosh Rishi Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish Can we arrange something like Free Media programs like fedora does ( I'm distributing Fedora and ubuntu at no charges, just one need to carry blank CD/DVD and exchange with Fedora/Ubuntu ) just like barter system. -- Jatin Khatri Web www.khatrijatin.co.nr www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jatin Phone (+91) 98250 20393 Hü Save Paper, Save Environment. P *(Plant at least one tree in your life and nurture it !!!)* -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical only to send free cd's to developers
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:40 PM, 74yrs old withblessi...@gmail.com wrote: very good idea. whether exchange can be done by ordinary Post? I think Sameep does a really great job with http://tuxdvds.com and I think there are some other services like this out there. I find it worth paying Rs. 50 for a CD / Rs. 100 for a DVD (approx, in most cases a bit less) and get them home delivered. I think more people should support these business models so that they can sustain themselves and flourish, especially here where downloading is definitely a big problem in a lot of cases. Take care, Sanjay -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical only to send free cd's to developers
I think Sameep does a really great job with http://tuxdvds.com and I think there are some other services like this out there. I find it worth paying Rs. 50 for a CD / Rs. 100 for a DVD (approx, in most cases a bit less) and get them home delivered. I think more people should support these business models so that they can sustain themselves and flourish, especially here where downloading is definitely a big problem in a lot of cases. http://www.zyxware.com/requestcd zyxware.com also doing a great job. http://ubuntu-tam.org/vaasal/request-ubuntu-cd This is from ubuntu tamil team. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My experiences with Linux are here http://goinggnu.wordpress.com For Free and Open Source Jobs http://fossjobs.wordpress.com -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical only to send free cd's to developers
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan ashutoshrish...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.workswithu.com/2009/11/18/who-deserves-free-ubuntu-cds-more/ reading the original blog reveals some interesting facets see: http://blog.canonical.com/?p=264 Points from there are: We will continue to supply CDs to LoCo teams and Ubuntu members. And we hope to make CDs available to everyone who is just discovering Ubuntu. * becoming an Ubuntu member by contributing to Ubuntu, and thereby becoming eligible for more CDs So all is not lost - the shiptit may not reach individual users but Loco Teams and Ubuntu members can get them and pass them around. ** But i think thats not the most important issue. What is important is what is the Ubuntu Trend - i think we are beginning to see the change in their priorities First the CD's themselves ((as they are now)) are pretty much useless unless there are a few hundred 100 mb worth of additional software installed. (this is for the slightly experienced user) the newbies take time to catch up and a newbie with a fat broadband connection probably does not even realise. . Added to this is the fact that Ubuntu is now quite bloated. Do any of you remember the early ubuntu which packed the OS plus software and over and above that also had opencd that ran from windows (it had a selection of 8 or 9 software) which popped up when Ubuntu was inserted into a windows session. Second the cd's are no longer as useful as they were when Ubuntu needed the fillip to enter into a battling linux desktop market. This they have achieved and now they have enough of a fan following who they are sure will continue to download, use and promote Ubuntu. Third : Business : why, I am wondering maybe there is enough business for Canonical that new users are not so important (as in the second point) and they can now focus on providing services - to the likes of Google et al. *** Some positives though are 1. Its been know that a whole of CD's have got wasted by been given out as freebies and jst lying around because they are free - making them harder to get will mean some effort and more appreciation for the CD 2. Reduced CD wastage will surely do its bit for the environment - apart from the cost of the paper required to pack it and the printing. This is a comment from the posted from the workwithu website # Andrew Oakley Says: November 20th, 2009 at 7:10 am The idea that a ShipIt CD will solve the problems of someone on reduced bandwidth is rather silly; within a month or two after launch, each distro needs 100MB+ of updates anyway. Most Linux distros, including Ubuntu, are designed with the assumption that they will be connected to broadband. And in the vast majority of cases, they’re right. So in effect the default CD is no longer worth passing around. Its better we talk about how we can make sure people get their hands on a fully featured / software loaded distro - a deriviative or a customized cd. ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical only to send free cd's to developers
The idea that a ShipIt CD will solve the problems of someone on reduced bandwidth is rather silly; within a month or two after launch, each distro needs 100MB+ of updates anyway. Most Linux distros, including Ubuntu, are designed with the assumption that they will be connected to broadband. And in the vast majority of cases, they’re right. In a way he is absolutely right. This point slipped out of my mind. I have the jaunty cd still with me which was made almost at the time it was released. Every time I install it, I need to keep my computer switched on for a hour and a half to finish updating. So in effect the default CD is no longer worth passing around. Its better we talk about how we can make sure people get their hands on a fully featured / software loaded distro - a deriviative or a customized cd. The central idea into distributing CDs was not just to help the people who cannot download it. It was for 'promotion of Ubuntu here' (Or simply awareness). For that, customized CDs play a great role. Correct me if I am wrong, majority of 'regular computer users' don't know about existence of other operating systems, leave alone Ubuntu or even linux. Distrubuting just normal Ubuntu CDs written on a blank CD won't be any good because people don't know about it. And therefore why would they in their right minds be buying something so crucial to their systems without clarification or a presentation. So finally, we need something like a 'awareness drive' (This might not be the right word for it, but I hope I am clear) to promote Ubuntu and the Ubuntu India Community. Ashutosh Rishi *Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish* -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] Canonical only to send free cd's to developers
http://www.workswithu.com/2009/11/18/who-deserves-free-ubuntu-cds-more/ This will make it harder for many people to get ubuntu. I have seen so many people who wouldn't download anything more than a 100MB because of money or speed. But from the beginning I did think that giving free CDs was outrageous! What could be the alternatives? Could we make ubuntu CDs together with printed CD covers (we could make a custom Ubuntu india CD cover)? The cost would vary accourding to the resources we could use: a CD is for Rs12 approx, and printing can be done from a shop or with a printer. These CDs could be distributed to local bookstores and shop. We could divide the management of this distrubution according to the area we live in. I think I remember reading that we could definitely sell custom Ubuntu CDs ( I don't think I remember correctly, please confirm). But if we could, we could use it wisely. I vote for non-profit. The difficult part would be making the shops agree. The other project we could undertake is either ( somehow ) getting a shipit like program within India itself. I don't know how will that be made possible. I am still to even get my own bank account. But just suggesting. PS: It was my small time dream that I would earn a lot, and help in advertising Ubuntu. -- Ashutosh Rishi Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical only to send free cd's to developers
Why not contact editor of Linux For You - he may show the way. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan ashutoshrish...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.workswithu.com/2009/11/18/who-deserves-free-ubuntu-cds-more/ This will make it harder for many people to get ubuntu. I have seen so many people who wouldn't download anything more than a 100MB because of money or speed. But from the beginning I did think that giving free CDs was outrageous! What could be the alternatives? Could we make ubuntu CDs together with printed CD covers (we could make a custom Ubuntu india CD cover)? The cost would vary accourding to the resources we could use: a CD is for Rs12 approx, and printing can be done from a shop or with a printer. These CDs could be distributed to local bookstores and shop. We could divide the management of this distrubution according to the area we live in. I think I remember reading that we could definitely sell custom Ubuntu CDs ( I don't think I remember correctly, please confirm). But if we could, we could use it wisely. I vote for non-profit. The difficult part would be making the shops agree. The other project we could undertake is either ( somehow ) getting a shipit like program within India itself. I don't know how will that be made possible. I am still to even get my own bank account. But just suggesting. PS: It was my small time dream that I would earn a lot, and help in advertising Ubuntu. -- Ashutosh Rishi Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Canonical only to send free cd's to developers
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan ashutoshrish...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.workswithu.com/2009/11/18/who-deserves-free-ubuntu-cds-more/ This will make it harder for many people to get ubuntu. I have seen so many people who wouldn't download anything more than a 100MB because of money or speed. But from the beginning I did think that giving free CDs was outrageous! What could be the alternatives? Could we make ubuntu CDs together with printed CD covers (we could make a custom Ubuntu india CD cover)? The cost would vary accourding to the resources we could use: a CD is for Rs12 approx, and printing can be done from a shop or with a printer. These CDs could be distributed to local bookstores and shop. We could divide the management of this distrubution according to the area we live in. 10 bucks a MoserBaer CD. I think I remember reading that we could definitely sell custom Ubuntu CDs ( I don't think I remember correctly, please confirm). But if we could, we could use it wisely. I vote for non-profit. GPL allows, dunno 'bout Ubuntu. The difficult part would be making the shops agree. The other project we could undertake is either ( somehow ) getting a shipit like program within India itself. I don't know how will that be made possible. I am still to even get my own bank account. But just suggesting. PS: It was my small time dream that I would earn a lot, and help in advertising Ubuntu. -- Ashutosh Rishi Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Regards, Easwar Registered Linux user #442065 -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
