Re: [ubuntu-in] Dual Booting K/Ubuntu's

2009-05-04 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Hi

Finally some sucess

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Onkar Shinde  wrote:
> You don't need to put the second grub on separate partition. You can
> safely overwrite the first grub installation.
>
Tried this but then the second Linux OS disappears (rather its boot details)

> If you still want to put second grub on separate partition then put it
> on partition that contains '/' of second installation.

So this is what it did
First installed 8.10 which has a separate /boot /root and /home
Then installed 7.10 in which there is only one partition /root - which
includes its /boot however during the *installation* 7.10 asked me
install bootloader - to which i said yes. However instead of allowing
the default hd0 as the boot loader address i installed to hd0,7 which
was the 7.10 /root partition (more on this later)

So i rebooted and ofcourse 7.10 did not appear - but my 8.10 was
alright - logged it and found the /boot/grub/menu.lst of 7.10 and
picked up its main booting lines and inserted them as they were into
the grub of 8.10. *Voila* now i can see all my 3 boot option (8.10,
7.10 and wince xp) , it also means i can choose to install many more
distros , as long as i have enough space on my HD.

 **
The biggest problem i had was trying to figure out how my partition were mapped
mean my hd appears as sda but the boot loader identifies my hd as hd0
. Further each partition has a different hd0 x number
like
sda1 = hd0, 0
sda2 = hd0, 1
etc

once this got figure out it was easy to redirect installation of
bootloader to the appropriate hd0
 I used the following help site
http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#A_Quick_Guide_to_Grubs_Numbering_System

hope more people find this useful, since it makes multibooting Linux
OS's quite quite easy

ram

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Dual Booting K/Ubuntu's

2009-05-03 Thread Onkar Shinde
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Ramnarayan.K  wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Hardeep Singh
>  wrote:
>> --- Original message ---
>> From: Ramnarayan.K 
>> To: ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Sent: 27.4.'09,  23:06
>>
>>> what you mean is i should not specify a new /boot and let the new
>>> linux os install its boot stuff in the / itself and then this section
>>> would call the older grub (or the older installed linux ) as a
>>> chainloader.
>>
>> Well not exactly, everything is correct except that the older grub would 
>> call the '/' grub as a chainloader, you'd need to reconfigure the older grub 
>> to add the entry. I'm still a Terminal phobic newbie so don't know how to 
>> add it, so i used easybcd on my windows install to add grub as a chainloader 
>> in Vista bootloader.
>
> Ok
> The problem is - that when i install the second linux os (8.10) at one
> stage in the installation it has where to install the grub , by
> default it shows hdo(0), this is the same place where 7.10 (the older
> existing linux has its boot) so i need to select the some other hdo
> partition - the one where the new os will put its boot. Later i need
> to edit the original grub (which should also be on the MBR) - the only
> problem i have is how do i know which hdo(x) partition i need to put
> the second grub on.

You don't need to put the second grub on separate partition. You can
safely overwrite the first grub installation.

If you still want to put second grub on separate partition then put it
on partition that contains '/' of second installation.


Onkar

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Dual Booting K/Ubuntu's

2009-05-02 Thread Ramnarayan.K
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Hardeep Singh
 wrote:
> --- Original message ---
> From: Ramnarayan.K 
> To: ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com
> Sent: 27.4.'09,  23:06
>
>> what you mean is i should not specify a new /boot and let the new
>> linux os install its boot stuff in the / itself and then this section
>> would call the older grub (or the older installed linux ) as a
>> chainloader.
>
> Well not exactly, everything is correct except that the older grub would call 
> the '/' grub as a chainloader, you'd need to reconfigure the older grub to 
> add the entry. I'm still a Terminal phobic newbie so don't know how to add 
> it, so i used easybcd on my windows install to add grub as a chainloader in 
> Vista bootloader.

Ok
The problem is - that when i install the second linux os (8.10) at one
stage in the installation it has where to install the grub , by
default it shows hdo(0), this is the same place where 7.10 (the older
existing linux has its boot) so i need to select the some other hdo
partition - the one where the new os will put its boot. Later i need
to edit the original grub (which should also be on the MBR) - the only
problem i have is how do i know which hdo(x) partition i need to put
the second grub on.

ram

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Dual Booting K/Ubuntu's

2009-04-27 Thread Hardeep Singh
--- Original message ---
From: Ramnarayan.K 
To: ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: 27.4.'09,  23:06

> what you mean is i should not specify a new /boot and let the new
> linux os install its boot stuff in the / itself and then this section
> would call the older grub (or the older installed linux ) as a
> chainloader.

Well not exactly, everything is correct except that the older grub would call 
the '/' grub as a chainloader, you'd need to reconfigure the older grub to add 
the entry. I'm still a Terminal phobic newbie so don't know how to add it, so i 
used easybcd on my windows install to add grub as a chainloader in Vista 
bootloader.
 

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Dual Booting K/Ubuntu's

2009-04-27 Thread Ramnarayan.K
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Hardeep Singh
 wrote:
>
>
>> Ok earlier i have dual booted two Linux OS' and what i remember is
>> that the later Linux automatically picked up the earlier os and
>> replaced the grub loader incorporating the old, the winced and the new
>> in the same boot loader, which i am assuming is in /boot.
>
> Not sure about what you did earlier but you can install grub in the boot 
> sector of your / partition and then call it via your regular grub or vista 
> bootloader that sits in your mbr. while installing Ubuntu, after entering all 
> configuration, the last page has an advanced tab, there you can specify where 
> to install the bootloader, just choose your install partition instead of your 
> mbr.
>
what you mean is i should not specify a new /boot and let the new
linux os install its boot stuff in the / itself and then this section
would call the older grub (or the older installed linux ) as a
chainloader.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Dual Booting K/Ubuntu's

2009-04-27 Thread Hardeep Singh


> Ok earlier i have dual booted two Linux OS' and what i remember is
> that the later Linux automatically picked up the earlier os and
> replaced the grub loader incorporating the old, the winced and the new
> in the same boot loader, which i am assuming is in /boot.

Not sure about what you did earlier but you can install grub in the boot sector 
of your / partition and then call it via your regular grub or vista bootloader 
that sits in your mbr. while installing Ubuntu, after entering all 
configuration, the last page has an advanced tab, there you can specify where 
to install the bootloader, just choose your install partition instead of your 
mbr. 

There's also another way to do it via terminal on an already installed OS, 
maybe experts here can explain how to do it.





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Re: [ubuntu-in] Dual Booting K/Ubuntu's

2009-04-27 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Hi

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Onkar Shinde  wrote:
> I don't think you can share /boot partition. But I have never done
> such type of installation so I will wait for someone else to provide
> insights.

Ok earlier i have dual booted two Linux OS' and what i remember is
that the later Linux automatically picked up the earlier os and
replaced the grub loader incorporating the old, the winced and the new
in the same boot loader, which i am assuming is in /boot.

Can't find my earlier notes

However, assuming that it requires a separate /boot would that mean i
need to create a further /boot partition ??

ram

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Dual Booting K/Ubuntu's

2009-04-27 Thread Onkar Shinde
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Ramnarayan.K  wrote:
> Hi
>
> In desperation to access the internet via my BSNL / CDMA WLL phone i
> reinstalled Ubuntu 7.10. I have left space for another Linux OS
> (probably Kubuntu 8.10 - since i have that CD)
>
> The following is my HD partitioning
> /dev/sda8             6.5G  2.0G  4.2G  33% /  (ubuntu 7.10 root and home
> /dev/sda6              92M   23M   64M  27% /boot
> /dev/sda1              13G   12G  844M  94% /media/sda1 (Wince XP)
> /dev/sda2             2.8G  759M  2.1G  27% /media/sda2 (VFAT Shared drive)
> /dev/sda7              43G   30G   12G  73% /media/sda7 (/Home from my
> previous install which i want to keep as my default home)
> /dev/sda9             6.7G  2.2G  4.2G  35% /media/sda9 (space for new Linux 
> OS)
>
> Ok the main question is i tried to install a second Ubuntu with sda9
> as /root and sda7 as /home and the sda6 was the /boot however Ubuntu
> 8.10 did not pick up the previously installed version of 7.10 and i
> was left without my 7.10.
>
> When the option came to partition i selected manual and did not select
> the option for the 8.10 installtion to format the /boot (which i
> assume needs to be the same as my older boot partition)

I don't think you can share /boot partition. But I have never done
such type of installation so I will wait for someone else to provide
insights.


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[ubuntu-in] Dual Booting K/Ubuntu's

2009-04-27 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Hi

In desperation to access the internet via my BSNL / CDMA WLL phone i
reinstalled Ubuntu 7.10. I have left space for another Linux OS
(probably Kubuntu 8.10 - since i have that CD)

The following is my HD partitioning
/dev/sda8 6.5G  2.0G  4.2G  33% /  (ubuntu 7.10 root and home
/dev/sda6  92M   23M   64M  27% /boot
/dev/sda1  13G   12G  844M  94% /media/sda1 (Wince XP)
/dev/sda2 2.8G  759M  2.1G  27% /media/sda2 (VFAT Shared drive)
/dev/sda7  43G   30G   12G  73% /media/sda7 (/Home from my
previous install which i want to keep as my default home)
/dev/sda9 6.7G  2.2G  4.2G  35% /media/sda9 (space for new Linux OS)

Ok the main question is i tried to install a second Ubuntu with sda9
as /root and sda7 as /home and the sda6 was the /boot however Ubuntu
8.10 did not pick up the previously installed version of 7.10 and i
was left without my 7.10.

When the option came to partition i selected manual and did not select
the option for the 8.10 installtion to format the /boot (which i
assume needs to be the same as my older boot partition)

So what could be going wrong.

regards
ram

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