Re: [ubuntu-in] Is Shipping Ubuntu To INDIA Illegal????
Top post Forwarded the post to india-gii, list. I will post the summary of discussion from india-gii list here. /top post regards VK On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Sunil Ravikumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all I am a B.Tech Final year student in Computer science and Engg.I am from cochin,Kerala,INDIA. Our college supports open source softwares and activities of the free software foundation.To promote Linux based OS's we have been using OS like ubuntu over the years. And as Ubuntu is a free software we are used to distribute the Ubuntu CD's to school children as a part of our annual Linux Familiarization Workshop I have requested ubuntu CD's at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu many times as and when the new releases were announced and got it shipped to my address for free I made my latest request on first week of Feb 2008 as the 7.10 version was released.But last week i was shocked to receive a showcase notice from the customs that i have violated the import rules by importing the ubuntu CD's for free with out any import licenses(The notice says that according to the rules you can receive gifts worth 2000 or less from abroad without import license, but i am wondering how they can estimate the cost of something that is free!!!) Anyways i am directed to meet the Asst commissioner of local customs department within 10 days of the receipt of the notice,the notice says if i cant convince them then case will be registered Have anyone ever heard of any such issues???please help me out...I really fear that i will be the very first martyr for the free software in INDIA -- Regards , Sunil Ravikumar Dept. Of Computer Science And Engg. Govt. Model Engg. College Cochin-21 Mob No # +919995405594 tr[dot]sunil[at]gmail[dot]com -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!! -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Is Shipping Ubuntu To INDIA Illegal????
Hello Sir I requested for the Ubuntu 7.10 ,20 numbers of CDs on the first week of Feb 2008 at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu . As i can know from the site , my request for 20 CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company on 2008-02-05. And i received the show cause notice issued under sec 134 of the C.A.62 from OFFICE OF THE ASST. COMMISSIONER OF CUSTOMS,POSTAL APPRAISING DEPARTMENT,COCHIN -682035.And the offense is written as IMPORT OF GOODS BY POST WITHOUT THE COVERAGE OF VALID IMPORT LICENSE CONTRAVENTION OF SEC.3 TO THE FOREIGN TRADE(DEVELOPMENT AND REGULATION)ACT 92 - PROPOSED ACTION UNDER THE CUSTOMS ACT.62 ISSUE OF SCN-REG.Hope Now you have enough details you require.Please help me out sir...i am scared On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Vivek Khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Sunil Ravikumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyways i am directed to meet the Asst commissioner of local customs department within 10 days of the receipt of the notice,the notice says if i cant convince them then case will be registered Have anyone ever heard of any such issues???please help me out...I really fear that i will be the very first martyr for the free software in INDIA I dont think there is any restrictions on importing legal software in India. As a point in your favor you can show to the custom commissioner that lot of people in India have imported these cds and no where anyone in customs have raised an objection.Also, point them to the website which says that ubuntu is a legal free software and the cds are shipped by canonical for free distribution. You might have to pay some charges though. Btw, what is the quantity of cds you have asked for ? regards VK -- The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!! -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Regards , Sunil Ravikumar Dept. Of Computer Science And Engg. Govt. Model Engg. College Cochin-21 Mob No # +919995405594 tr[dot]sunil[at]gmail[dot]com -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Is Shipping Ubuntu To INDIA Illegal????
Sunil Ravikumar wrote: *Hello all I am a B.Tech Final year student in Computer science and Engg.I am from cochin,Kerala,INDIA.* *Our college supports open source softwares and activities of the free software foundation.To promote Linux based OS's we have been using OS like ubuntu over the years.* I've been to your college, and yes, it truly did amaze me. :) *And as Ubuntu is a free software we are used to distribute the Ubuntu CD's to school children as a part of our annual Linux Familiarization Workshop * *I have requested ubuntu CD's at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu many times as and when the new releases were announced and got it shipped to my address for free * *I made my latest request on first week of Feb 2008 as the 7.10 version was released.But last week i was shocked to receive a showcase notice from the customs that i have violated the import rules by importing the ubuntu CD's for free with out any import licenses(The notice says that according to the rules you can receive gifts worth 2000 or less from abroad without import license, but i am wondering how they can estimate the cost of something that is free!!!) * I think they have the value of the package written over it, (0.88 Euros for a 2-3 CD pack)... definitely less than 2000... though i'm still puzzled. *Anyways i am directed to meet the Asst commissioner of local customs department within 10 days of the receipt of the notice,the notice says if i cant convince them then case will be registered * *Have anyone ever heard of any such issues???please help me out...I really fear that i will be the very first martyr for the free software in INDIA * Anyone else had issues like this before? Venkatesh -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Is Shipping Ubuntu To INDIA Illegal????
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sunil Ravikumar wrote: Hello Sir I requested for the Ubuntu 7.10 ,20 numbers of CDs on the first week of Feb 2008 at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu . As i can know from the site , my request for 20 CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company on 2008-02-05. And i received the show cause notice issued under sec 134 of the C.A.62 from OFFICE OF THE ASST. COMMISSIONER OF CUSTOMS,POSTAL APPRAISING DEPARTMENT,COCHIN -682035.And the offense is written as IMPORT OF GOODS BY POST WITHOUT THE COVERAGE OF VALID IMPORT LICENSE CONTRAVENTION OF SEC.3 TO THE FOREIGN TRADE(DEVELOPMENT AND REGULATION)ACT 92 - PROPOSED ACTION UNDER THE CUSTOMS ACT.62 ISSUE OF SCN-REG.Hope Now you have enough details you require.Please help me out sir...i am scared Thanks for the information. I will forward this to appropriate people and have them look at this issue. Do not be afraid. Every ship-it comes with an official declaration from Canonical/Ubuntu which states that this is Free Software and the receiver is legally allowed to distribute or make copies of the CDs. It also states that Canonical has already paid the customs charges and the receiver need not pay anything, still customs charge are asked because the Courier guy is made to pay during the transaction. Can you clarify whether you got the ship-it or its held up in the customs office? If so, ask the customs officer to check the letter which is attached to the shipit. We got around 600 CDs during foss.in and we paid a customs of around 1500 INR. I hope I have the copy of the letter from Canonical at home. - -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak [GPG] 0x2FF01026 [web] http://blog.technofreak.in | http://photos.technofreak.in [irc] techno_freak @ irc.freenode.net (##linux-india) [mobile] +919845446647 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH6HQsk4vYYS/wECYRAnSsAJ0YNT3Z5gvv4vuft2ZS0jJQZFsEGwCglIGK 3Cww1I6gveFrsY9qRzla1To= =It1I -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Is Shipping Ubuntu To INDIA Illegal????
Hi Sunil, On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Sunil Ravikumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Sir I requested for the Ubuntu 7.10 ,20 numbers of CDs on the first week of Feb 2008 at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu . As i can know from the site , my request for 20 CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company on 2008-02-05. And i received the show cause notice issued under sec 134 of the C.A.62 from OFFICE OF THE ASST. COMMISSIONER OF CUSTOMS,POSTAL APPRAISING DEPARTMENT,COCHIN -682035.And the offense is written as IMPORT OF GOODS BY POST WITHOUT THE COVERAGE OF VALID IMPORT LICENSE CONTRAVENTION OF SEC.3 TO THE FOREIGN TRADE(DEVELOPMENT AND REGULATION)ACT 92 - PROPOSED ACTION UNDER THE CUSTOMS ACT.62 ISSUE OF SCN-REG.Hope Now you have enough details you require.Please help me out sir...i am scared I'm sure this is nothing serious. Just let them know that the CDs are distributed free world-wide. Point them out to Ubuntu's shipit site and I think you will be good. Now I know you are dealing with software for educational purposes and hence you may have a tight budget, but here's a advise. There are a lot of Open source vendors in the country ( http://www.opensourcedeal.com) . It might cost you to actually buy the CDs, but apart from intelligent rationing (as against random distribution), you will get the CDs/DVDs earlier , have a wider choice and will not run into such petty conflicts. Thanks, Raseel http://www.raseel.in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
