Re: [ubuntu-in] Trying to install Gutsy, Gparted says bad

2008-01-09 Thread 74yrs old
Try with the Seagate website for diagnostic tool. It will check if there is
any bad sector in HDD and also has tool to restore to factory settings of
the HDD

On Jan 10, 2008 1:32 AM, Dinbandhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 00:46 +0530, Vishal Gaurav wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Thanks,
> > You don't maintain here yet, Which brand make your hard disk.
> > Are you downloaded tools from hard disk maker website.
> > I don't figure out, why you having problems with g parted softwares.
> > I was tried it in many many machines, some of them are old and some
> > therm are new too.but i have never any problem with it before!.
> > Ubuntu also uses this software for inbuilt partition tool.
> >
> > Try another windows based software,Hope you get a chance.
>
> I downloaded the hardware diagnostics utility from Dell, and checked the
> hard drive at great length last night. The utility found two bad blocks
> on the drive: block # 5084681, and 5084682. The code of the error
> (0F00:1A44) is for uncorrectable data error. No one at Dell technical
> support could tell me how serious it is i.e. many people have such bad
> blocks on their HD and it goes for many years like that; or instead that
> it could be about to go bad altogether.
>
> I wrote about my problem on the Parted Magic support form, and the
> administrator replied:
>
> "Windows misses bad sectors if you don't do a deep scan. The best
> thing to do is to use the utility for the hard drive from the
> manufacturer. To be 100% sure. You should be able to find it on the dell
> web site.
>
> I have never seen GParted say there was a bad sector if there really
> wasn't.
>
> Resizing a partition from the cli (command line interface) is easy. Read
> the Parted Magic Doc while doing it."
>
> At this point I guess I have two options. Keep the computer as is, and
> try to shrink the partition using the gparted cli in Parted Magic. Or
> call the person who sold me the computer and tell them to give me a
> different one. I would unhesitatingly opt for the latter, but I don't
> know how easy it will be to arrange. And I'm going to India in four days
> and will be bringing the laptop to give it to someone. Anyhow, I'll call
> the seller today and ask them.
>
> But I guess I'd have two questions at this point:
> 1. Does the defect on the HD sound serious? Or instead, incidental and
> probably insignificant?
> 2. Are you familiar with using the cli (command line interface) in
> gparted? Any tips for how to access it or use it?
>
> Many thanks,
> Swarup
>
> P.S. The hard drive is listed in Device Manager as: "HTS548040M9AT00"
>
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Trying to install Gutsy, Gparted says bad

2008-01-09 Thread Dinbandhu
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 00:46 +0530, Vishal Gaurav wrote:
> Hello,
> Thanks,
> You don't maintain here yet, Which brand make your hard disk.
> Are you downloaded tools from hard disk maker website.
> I don't figure out, why you having problems with g parted softwares.
> I was tried it in many many machines, some of them are old and some
> therm are new too.but i have never any problem with it before!.
> Ubuntu also uses this software for inbuilt partition tool.
> 
> Try another windows based software,Hope you get a chance. 

I downloaded the hardware diagnostics utility from Dell, and checked the
hard drive at great length last night. The utility found two bad blocks
on the drive: block # 5084681, and 5084682. The code of the error
(0F00:1A44) is for uncorrectable data error. No one at Dell technical
support could tell me how serious it is i.e. many people have such bad
blocks on their HD and it goes for many years like that; or instead that
it could be about to go bad altogether.

I wrote about my problem on the Parted Magic support form, and the
administrator replied:

"Windows misses bad sectors if you don't do a deep scan. The best
thing to do is to use the utility for the hard drive from the
manufacturer. To be 100% sure. You should be able to find it on the dell
web site.

I have never seen GParted say there was a bad sector if there really
wasn't.

Resizing a partition from the cli (command line interface) is easy. Read
the Parted Magic Doc while doing it."

At this point I guess I have two options. Keep the computer as is, and
try to shrink the partition using the gparted cli in Parted Magic. Or
call the person who sold me the computer and tell them to give me a
different one. I would unhesitatingly opt for the latter, but I don't
know how easy it will be to arrange. And I'm going to India in four days
and will be bringing the laptop to give it to someone. Anyhow, I'll call
the seller today and ask them. 

But I guess I'd have two questions at this point:
1. Does the defect on the HD sound serious? Or instead, incidental and
probably insignificant?
2. Are you familiar with using the cli (command line interface) in
gparted? Any tips for how to access it or use it?

Many thanks,
Swarup

P.S. The hard drive is listed in Device Manager as: "HTS548040M9AT00"





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Re: [ubuntu-in] Trying to install Gutsy, Gparted says bad

2008-01-09 Thread Vishal Gaurav
Hello,
Thanks,
You don't maintain here yet, Which brand make your hard disk.
Are you downloaded tools from hard disk maker website.
I don't figure out, why you having problems with g parted softwares.
I was tried it in many many machines, some of them are old and some therm
are new too.but i have never any problem with it before!.
Ubuntu also uses this software for inbuilt partition tool.

Try another windows based software,Hope you get a chance.

Thanks,
Vishal
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Trying to install Gutsy, Gparted says bad

2008-01-08 Thread Dinbandhu
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 21:01 +0530, Vishal Gaurav wrote:
> Hello,
> Here in this list have less chance to get help about g parted . Try to
> ask question in g parted mailing list or in there forum.
> Anyway,
> Probably your hard disk have bad sector.
> Which company make your hard disk.? 
> Go to hard disk maker company website, You find tools about that.
> 
> If you want to check the drive within winxp gui mode.
> "Go to my computer,then right click on drive and then click on
> properties, and then tools, click there on error checking tab" 
> You found detailed information
> 
> Also www.acronis.com softwares have another good tool for partition or
> for resizing."But not free ware". 
> Now days hard disks are not too expensive, if have problem with old
> disk, then go for new.
> Hope this will help to you a little bit!

Thank you very much, Vishal. 
I've actually tried just about everything I know-- including most of
what you've stated above. I didn't get the acronis, as I'd like to be
able to do it without purchasing software. But anyhow, I'll keep trying
today. If I can't get it fixed, I'll have to return the computer.

Swarup



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Re: [ubuntu-in] Trying to install Gutsy, Gparted says bad

2008-01-08 Thread Vishal Gaurav
Hello,
Here in this list have less chance to get help about g parted . Try to ask
question in g parted mailing list or in there forum.
Anyway,
Probably your hard disk have bad sector.
Which company make your hard disk.?
Go to hard disk maker company website, You find tools about that.

If you want to check the drive within winxp gui mode.
"Go to my computer,then right click on drive and then click on properties,
and then tools, click there on error checking tab"
You found detailed information

Also www.*acronis*.com softwares have another good tool for partition or for
resizing."But not free ware".
Now days hard disks are not too expensive, if have problem with old disk,
then go for new.
Hope this will help to you a little bit!


Thanks,
Vishal
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Trying to install Gutsy, Gparted says bad sectors but XP CHKDSK says NO

2008-01-07 Thread Dinbandhu
On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 18:33 -0900, Tom M wrote:
> Ah sorry yes it is clear what you were saying upon rereading,
> 
> perhaps you should ask at the gnu parted bug list?
> 
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-parted

Thank you for the suggestion. I have joined the bug list just now, and
sent my question there. Let us see what they say.

In the mean time if anyone else on this Ubuntu list has a further
suggestion, I would be deeply grateful. I am leaving in a few days for
India and will be delivering this laptop to a friend there. So I would
like to have the dual boot set up for him before I leave.

Thanks,
Swarup


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Trying to install Gutsy, Gparted says bad sectors but XP CHKDSK says NO

2008-01-07 Thread Tom M
Ah sorry yes it is clear what you were saying upon rereading,

perhaps you should ask at the gnu parted bug list?

http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-parted

LetterRip

>Please kindly review the initial letter, and I
> think the whole situation will be clear.
> Thanks,
> Swarup
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Trying to install Gutsy, Gparted says bad sectors but XP CHKDSK says NO

2008-01-07 Thread Dinbandhu
On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 15:13 -0900, Tom M wrote:
> why are you using ntfsresize?  Just use gparted, it has ntfs support
> internally and can shrink the partition size.

In my initial letter I explained that gparted is refusing to shrink the
partition. This is the whole problem I am facing. Gparted says it has
found 1 or more bad sectors in the hard drive, due to which it refuses
to shrink the partition. Please kindly review the initial letter, and I
think the whole situation will be clear.
Thanks,
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Trying to install Gutsy, Gparted says bad sectors but XP CHKDSK says NO

2008-01-07 Thread Tom M
why are you using ntfsresize?  Just use gparted, it has ntfs support
internally and can shrink the partition size.

LetterRip

> (The "ntfsresize" utility is not so easy to use as gparted, because
> "ntfsresize" only shrinks the file system, not the partition. Then you
> have to use fdisk to shrink the partition and you have to match the size
> of the partition to the size of the file system, otherwise it won't
> work.)
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[ubuntu-in] Trying to install Gutsy, Gparted says bad sectors but XP CHKDSK says NO

2008-01-07 Thread Dinbandhu
I just purchased a 3 year-old laptop (Dell Latitude D400) which has XP
on it. I want to set up a dual boot with XP and Gutsy. I have a Parted
Magic live cd so I booted up with that to downsize the XP partition and
free up space for Gutsy. Once Parted Magic booted up, I opened Gparted
to downsize the XP partition. But Gparted refused to allow a resizing of
the partition because it said it found at least 1 bad sector on the
disk. It further said I should run 'chkdsk /f /r' in Windows and reboot
it twice. It said that after that, I could resize NTFS safely by
additionally using the "bad-sectors option" of ntfsresize.

So I booted into XP to run chkdsk in the command line. Although I had no
other programs running, the chkdsk utility told me it could not run
because there were other utilities running. But it did say if I replied
"y" (yes), then upon a reboot it would run chkdsk. So I replied 'y' and
rebooted the computer. Chkdsk ran, and said the disk was perfectly fine.
I rebooted the computer twice, then went back into Parted Magic, and
Gparted still said it found at least 1 bad sector on the disk and
refused to resize. I went back to XP and ran chkdsk again, and again it
found no bad sectors. Again I went into Gparted, and again it said it
found at least 1 bad sector. So I don't know whether there is really a
bad sector or not, and furthermore Gparted will not allow me to downsize
the XP partition.

(1) How can I be confirmed if there really is a bad sector or not? If
there is, then I'll return the computer. This is a major concern for me.

(2) If there is no bad sector and Gparted is incorrect, then how can I
get Gparted to downsize the ntfs partition? 

(The "ntfsresize" utility is not so easy to use as gparted, because
"ntfsresize" only shrinks the file system, not the partition. Then you
have to use fdisk to shrink the partition and you have to match the size
of the partition to the size of the file system, otherwise it won't
work.)


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