Re: [ubuntu-in] anti-virus

2007-05-15 Thread Ravi Shanker
On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 00:22 +0530, mehul wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/15/07, Ravi Shanker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Go for Avast, 
> 
> 
> On linux? I have seen a few times that avast detects localisation
> files on linux as virus, which scares the new users to delete them.
> I doubt if such an anti-virus could be called good, since that false 
> positive seems to have not been cleared since a couple of years.

I was talking about Avast on Windows Machines. I said we don't need any
antivirus on a Desktop Linux (Ubuntu) Machine.
Avast got better with its new release. Since the opensource package
clamav is not a realtime antivirus which runs always, so the better and
free would be Avast.



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Re: [ubuntu-in] anti-virus

2007-05-15 Thread mehul

On 5/15/07, Ravi Shanker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Go for Avast,



On linux? I have seen a few times that avast detects localisation
files on linux as virus, which scares the new users to delete them.
I doubt if such an anti-virus could be called good, since that false
positive seems to have not been cleared since a couple of years.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] anti-virus

2007-05-15 Thread subhanil CHOWDHURY
THANKS A LOT RAVI FOR A WONDERFUL SET OF INFORMATION
ON VIRUS AND ANTI-VIRUS ON LINUX!!
--- Ravi Shanker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 01:31 -0700, subhanil
> CHOWDHURY wrote:
> > do i need any anti-virus or firewall if i have
> ubuntu
> > on my computer??
> > 
> > 
> >  
> >
>

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> On Linux for Desktop users, you never need
> Anti-virus. If you install
> it, you are seriously wasting the machine resources.
> There have been no
> serious virus attack claims on Linux, though some
> were made
> experimental, but that too won;t effect the system
> due to variants in
> Linux systems.
> So why there is no virus threat in Linux?
> The file permission in filesystem and self(memory)
> protected Kernel.
> ALso, all the applications you use is OpenSource,
> there can be bugs, but
> cann't be viruses and backdoor, else it will get
> attention and
> maintainer or developers will remove that portion.
> Everything is more
> managed. 
> Other thing is, since you execute users programs
> with your limited user
> capabilities, not root, the code if malicious will
> not do any harm.
> There are lot many factors. Linux has never been an
> easy and successful
> platform for Virus propagation and attack.
> 
> Linux doesnt have something like Buffer Overflow
> bugged Abstract Syntax
> Notation (ASN), Scripting Layers, heavily bugged RPC
> etc.  
> 
> Neither assembly and shell code exploit could do
> anything on
> Linux(secure implementation), nor did the malicious
> scripting work. Any
> virus from Emails can also do nothing on your system
> and also can't
> execute itself to replicate.
> So you have the secure system dear friend. There is
> really no need for
> antivirus. They are used on Linux servers, like mail
> server and also on
> system which is information gateway to mixed type
> environment, cuz they
> have to remove the virus and malicious attachments
> before it goes to
> Windows systems.
> 
> SO ultimately, what you learn, no virus if you use
> LInux, so no
> antivirus.
> But if you have Windows too in other partition, you
> must install
> antivirus. Go for Avast, the free and my personal
> like. Its better than
> AVG (I have used both of them, for a long). Never
> install Norton, it is
> not free, and is the heavy system resource eating
> package,.Also ,
> removing Norton much times give you a pain in ass,
> and surely after than
> you need to reinstall WIndows. 
> 
> Firewall is necessary, on Ubuntu Feisty, every port
> is shielded. So as a
> default, you have maximum security. If you need to
> open some ports, you
> can guard them with firewall.
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> Ravi
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> Homepage : http://ra21vi.googlepages.com
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Re: [ubuntu-in] anti-virus

2007-05-15 Thread Gaurav Mishra
On 5/15/07, Onkar Shinde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/15/07, subhanil CHOWDHURY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > do i need any anti-virus or firewall if i have ubuntu
> > on my computer??
> >
>
> It depends on how you use the machine. If the machine has dual boot
> with Windows and you are using some common partition to transfer data
> between both OS or if the machine is on a Windows network then
> probably it is good idea to have antivirus installed.
>
hmm, not readily agree on that i am a 5 year old Dual boot person and
4 year on Local Netowrk in my college . never faced such a problem


> Firewall is inbuilt in the Linux kernel. All you need is a way to
> manager it. You can install package firestarter for a GUI to manage
> it.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-in] anti-virus

2007-05-15 Thread 杨晓峰
subhanil CHOWDHURY 写道:
> do i need any anti-virus or firewall if i have ubuntu
> on my computer??
>
>
>  
> 
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I don't think you need one, except you are not a personal user.
Nearly all the viruses can only run in MS Windows but can't run in ubuntu.
And, nearly all the attacks can take effect in MS Windows but can't in 
ubuntu.

Anyway, if you want an anti-virus software in ubuntu, try AntiVir.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] anti-virus

2007-05-15 Thread Ravi Shanker
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 01:31 -0700, subhanil CHOWDHURY wrote:
> do i need any anti-virus or firewall if i have ubuntu
> on my computer??
> 
> 
>  
> 
> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go 
> with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.
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> 

On Linux for Desktop users, you never need Anti-virus. If you install
it, you are seriously wasting the machine resources. There have been no
serious virus attack claims on Linux, though some were made
experimental, but that too won;t effect the system due to variants in
Linux systems.
So why there is no virus threat in Linux?
The file permission in filesystem and self(memory) protected Kernel.
ALso, all the applications you use is OpenSource, there can be bugs, but
cann't be viruses and backdoor, else it will get attention and
maintainer or developers will remove that portion. Everything is more
managed. 
Other thing is, since you execute users programs with your limited user
capabilities, not root, the code if malicious will not do any harm.
There are lot many factors. Linux has never been an easy and successful
platform for Virus propagation and attack.

Linux doesnt have something like Buffer Overflow bugged Abstract Syntax
Notation (ASN), Scripting Layers, heavily bugged RPC etc.  

Neither assembly and shell code exploit could do anything on
Linux(secure implementation), nor did the malicious scripting work. Any
virus from Emails can also do nothing on your system and also can't
execute itself to replicate.
So you have the secure system dear friend. There is really no need for
antivirus. They are used on Linux servers, like mail server and also on
system which is information gateway to mixed type environment, cuz they
have to remove the virus and malicious attachments before it goes to
Windows systems.

SO ultimately, what you learn, no virus if you use LInux, so no
antivirus.
But if you have Windows too in other partition, you must install
antivirus. Go for Avast, the free and my personal like. Its better than
AVG (I have used both of them, for a long). Never install Norton, it is
not free, and is the heavy system resource eating package,.Also ,
removing Norton much times give you a pain in ass, and surely after than
you need to reinstall WIndows. 

Firewall is necessary, on Ubuntu Feisty, every port is shielded. So as a
default, you have maximum security. If you need to open some ports, you
can guard them with firewall.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] anti-virus

2007-05-15 Thread shavinder singh
I have been using ubuntu for a year now. i never felt the need for an anti 
virus. infact that is why i like linux. evrything is under control.

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Subject: [ubuntu-in] anti-virus

do i need any anti-virus or firewall if i have ubuntu
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Re: [ubuntu-in] anti-virus

2007-05-15 Thread Sachin Gopal

On 5/15/07, Onkar Shinde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 5/15/07, subhanil CHOWDHURY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> do i need any anti-virus or firewall if i have ubuntu
> on my computer??



A firewall is needed whatever the operating system. try firestarter.
An anti virus is not necessary but desirable ...


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Re: [ubuntu-in] anti-virus

2007-05-15 Thread Onkar Shinde
On 5/15/07, subhanil CHOWDHURY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> do i need any anti-virus or firewall if i have ubuntu
> on my computer??
>

It depends on how you use the machine. If the machine has dual boot
with Windows and you are using some common partition to transfer data
between both OS or if the machine is on a Windows network then
probably it is good idea to have antivirus installed.

Firewall is inbuilt in the Linux kernel. All you need is a way to
manager it. You can install package firestarter for a GUI to manage
it.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] anti-virus

2007-05-15 Thread Arun Ganesan

pl try AVG anti-virus  in linux version.

--- subhanil CHOWDHURY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> do i need any anti-virus or firewall if i have
> ubuntu
> on my computer??
> 
> 
>  
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[ubuntu-in] anti-virus

2007-05-15 Thread subhanil CHOWDHURY
do i need any anti-virus or firewall if i have ubuntu
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