Re: [ubuntu-in] Plans for an installfest at college in New Bombay

2009-02-07 Thread Roshan
--- On Thu, 5/2/09, Easwar Hariharan wrote:

[snip]

 Demonstration:
 
 On 27th,I plan to set up 4-5 machines with Ubuntu 8.04[LTS]

Since 28, is a Saturday, I can possibly be out there to help you, but I won't 
commit, since, it may not be one of my lucky days :)

 Explain the features vis-a-vis Windows,career possibilities
 and use of
 GNU/Linux in universities and companies abroad.

That's a very good idea in the 90% Windows-dominated world ;) 
My humble REQUEST: (Announce this ;) )
Please inform that REDHAT LINUX 9.0 is equivalent to Windows 98 in today's 
world. (in terms of timeline, performance, applications etc.) (not technically 
same -- for sure). Most Universities / Colleges / Professors / MCSE 
Professionals as AMC guys Lab instructors believe REDHAT LINUX 9.0 as the 
only Official sort-of Linux. (Darn! Ubuntu is OFFICIAL :P)

Also it is very important to tell them that LINUX != WINDOWS ... seriously. 
MP3s and AVIs are hot media formats, and VLC is the best player on any distro 
to run them! (Mplayer, Xine guys, I don't use them, so they might be good too!) 

They should not expect everything to work the way it used to do in Windows. If 
you fail to tell them this, they'll want to go back to Windows. Also offer them 
the opportunity to take the trouble to go through the source code and change 
it, (sounds scary! :-o ) and make it work they want it to work. 

 If people can't
 bring their
 machines,ask them to check out the installation
 procedure,and hand out
 CDs.

This is one tough job to be done. Why? You need to tell them how they'll get 
SUPPORT when they run into TROUBLES while installing / configuring / 
maintaining. 

Support options such as Mailing Lists / IRC / Search engines (oh and not just 
Google!, perhaps www.blackle.com for power consuming CRTs)

Apart from them, which would at first sound like alien ways to get support with 
rule or language (syntax - No SMS slang) barriers in international channels, 
tell them about local contacts. 
Again this is tough, because, a PERSONALIZED support is VERY difficult. 
Nevertheless, not impossible, if the person is willing to spend some time to 
try out.

 Where I need help in this plan is to arrange for the
 machines for the
 first day.Ideally,I plan to have a range of specifications
 from low
 power to highly powered rigs.

This is really important. A major parameter in the success of the fest. Check 
the hardware which will be used while installing Ubuntu. You may want to ensure 
that most of them are Intel ones (M-boards, and other on-board hardware, plus 
none have some exotic hardware) and don't have any stupid LAN cards like Intex 
cards which might require additional configs / drivers. (This might be ruled 
out since distros do support a variety of hardware, but you really don't want 
to be Eh? Why isn't that working ? )

 And,last but
 not least,I
 need to be pointed out holes in the plan,and help with
 patching them.

Possible failure points - any one failing badly might cause problems
(In the order of more points / value) 

a. Hardware (college hardware as well as those who try at home) - the hardware 
should work without any additional work done.
b. SUPPORT (HOW DO I do this FOOBAR?)
c. Application Mapping to existing Windows apps (Refer the Wiki) 
d. Explaining GNU, FOSS, Linux as not just something NEW - but the most 
Current ongoing technology that help computers do things in a much better way 
- You'll need better speakers from GLUG-BOM / Ubuntu-IN 
e. Attendance-Compulsory AUDIENCE .. A big NO NO - Voluntarily ATTEND! 
f. Lack of Do-IT-Yourself attitude (not much to do with the fest, but with the 
impact of it) (I have almost started to let go these days :( )

I haven't conducted a installfest ever in my college and I really APPRECIATE 
your effort towards conducting it at your college. 

My opinions are mostly based on my attempts to install Redhat Linux 9.0 back in 
2004/05 for few of my friends (which I assume, you too have - a different 
distro though) 

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Plans for an installfest at college in New Bombay

2009-02-06 Thread Easwar Hariharan
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Nitesh Mistry mistrynit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Easwar!
 It is a great idea to show demo so that people see for themselves the
 usability of the software. But, how have you planned to publicize the event,
 so the people know that this demo is being conducted. In case your target
 audience is the resident students, you can put some posters on the campus,
 or request the professors to announce about the event in the classrooms.
 Hope the event turns out to be a success so that we can replicate the same
 at other campuses also. Wish I could have been in Mumbai to lend you a
 helping hand.
 All the best!

Since this install fest is in concert with a technical fest conducted
in co-ordination with 5 other engineering colleges and my college in
Mumbai,publicity is being conducted along with the publicity for other
events of the technical fest.Both the above methods mentioned above
are already on radar,thank you anyway. :)

Apologies for the double post which may have taken place
inadvertently.The points where I can see my plan failing is when
1]People spoken to are spoken to in such a manner that doesn't raise
interest in them to allocate 10GB of their HDD to Ubuntu.
2]People install,but end up never booting Ubuntu.This would also be a
failing of the Reasons to Migrate speech given by the organisers to
the willing people doesn't convince them that the effort to learn the
new system is worth the peace of mind they get in return.

Regards,
Easwar
Registered Linux user #442065

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Plans for an installfest at college in New Bombay

2009-02-05 Thread Nitesh Mistry
Hey Easwar!
It is a great idea to show demo so that people see for themselves the
usability of the software. But, how have you planned to publicize the event,
so the people know that this demo is being conducted. In case your target
audience is the resident students, you can put some posters on the campus,
or request the professors to announce about the event in the classrooms.
Hope the event turns out to be a success so that we can replicate the same
at other campuses also. Wish I could have been in Mumbai to lend you a
helping hand.
All the best!


On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Easwar Hariharan meindian...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello all,

 I'm a student of the Ramrao Adik Institute of Technology[RAIT] located
 in the DY Patil University Campus at Nerul in Navi Mumbai.I intend to
 hold a demonstration and installfest of Ubuntu on 27th and 28th
 respectively.

 Demonstration:

 On 27th,I plan to set up 4-5 machines with Ubuntu 8.04[LTS] installed
 with eye candy and requisite non-free codecs and to attract people
 with compiz effects [as bait to get them looking at the machines] and
 natural curiosity.Allow them to play with  the machines and explain to
 them the various replacements for applications they use on
 Windows.Planning to
 spout philosophy for the really curious. :)

 Explain the features vis-a-vis Windows,career possibilities and use of
 GNU/Linux in universities and companies abroad.I plan organize an
 install fest next day for those interested who will sign up in a
 registration book of sorts.

 Installfest:

 I have 28 odd Ubuntu 8.04 32 bit CDs.I plan to install for those who
 bring their boxes and hand them a CD.If people can't bring their
 machines,ask them to check out the installation procedure,and hand out
 CDs.

 If I run out of CDs(which would be known by the number of people who
 sign up for the installfest the previous day),I ask them to bring
 their flash stick and create a bootable image on them,provided their
 boxes have USB boot capabilities.Also planning to keep a CD Writer
 handy.

 Where I need help in this plan is to arrange for the machines for the
 first day.Ideally,I plan to have a range of specifications from low
 power to highly powered rigs.

 I also need experienced people to lend their expertise in framing how
 to speak to people who drop in to check out the machines on the first
 day and points to be covered while speaking.And,last but not least,I
 need to be pointed out holes in the plan,and help with patching them.


 Regards,
 Easwar
 Registered Linux user #442065

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