Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Getting Involved

2006-07-01 Thread Rich Johnson
On Saturday 01 July 2006 07:28, Robert McWilliam wrote:
> I have seen a few people asking what they can do to help the marketing
> team recently, so I made a wiki page with an answer:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/GetInvolved
Good idea on that one Robert, thanks for taking the initiative on that one.

> I have a link in it for making specs for new ideas in launchpad: at the
> moment this links to adding a new spec for the ubuntu distribution. Is
> there a better place for specs that are specific to the marketing team
> and if not should we make one?
I think that specs for us should go through the LP, however I don't know how 
the other teams who rely on specs feel about it. I would give it a +1 as I 
feel it keeps us organized and running in line with the other Ubuntu teams.

> Any other additions/changes welcome.
Oh there are so many!!!  Soon young Jedi ;)

> Could the project leaders possibly put up pages with lists of specific
> tasks they are looking for people to do (or mail me the list and I'll
> put it in the wiki) and check that what I've put up for general help
> you are looking for is sane.
I am currently working on redoing the entire MarketingTeam Wiki page(s). There 
will be a lot more information when this is complete. I should have a main 
page with information this week complete. This will hold for the team until 
we either get a main site up and running, or it will stay.
>   Robert
> 
> Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ormiret.com
>
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> Science  : "Why will this work?"
> Management   : "When will this work?"
> Liberal Arts : "Do you want fries with that?"
>  -- Jesse N. Schell
Thanks Robert for the help, the ideas, and the team spirit. Keep up the good 
work!!!
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Getting Involved

2006-07-01 Thread Corey Burger

On 7/1/06, Robert McWilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have seen a few people asking what they can do to help the marketing
team recently, so I made a wiki page with an answer:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/GetInvolved

I have a link in it for making specs for new ideas in launchpad: at the
moment this links to adding a new spec for the ubuntu distribution. Is
there a better place for specs that are specific to the marketing team
and if not should we make one?

Any other additions/changes welcome.

Could the project leaders possibly put up pages with lists of specific
tasks they are looking for people to do (or mail me the list and I'll
put it in the wiki) and check that what I've put up for general help
you are looking for is sane.

Robert


Robert,

I will do some work on this over the next week, once I am back in town.

Cheers,

Corey

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[ubuntu-marketing] Getting Involved

2006-07-01 Thread Robert McWilliam
I have seen a few people asking what they can do to help the marketing
team recently, so I made a wiki page with an answer:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/GetInvolved

I have a link in it for making specs for new ideas in launchpad: at the
moment this links to adding a new spec for the ubuntu distribution. Is
there a better place for specs that are specific to the marketing team
and if not should we make one?

Any other additions/changes welcome.

Could the project leaders possibly put up pages with lists of specific
tasks they are looking for people to do (or mail me the list and I'll
put it in the wiki) and check that what I've put up for general help
you are looking for is sane.

Robert

Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ormiret.com

Engineering  : "How will this work?"
Science  : "Why will this work?"
Management   : "When will this work?"
Liberal Arts : "Do you want fries with that?"
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Is ubuntupeople.com offline?

2006-07-01 Thread Paul O'Malley
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Vid Ayer wrote:
> Hi ,
> 
> Since the last few hours,  , has this
> message :
> 
> /quote:
> This forum has been temporarily closed, due to complaints lodged
> against Jenda Vancura.
> /unquote
> 
> They were active 2-3 days ago.  Though registered by Canonical,
> www.spreadubuntu.net is also inactive.  What's up ?
> 
ubuntupeople is gone since Monday evening.

spreadubuntu .com and .net domains have been pointed towards canonical
for some time now, the third one (.org) is being sat on.

I will refrain from commenting further, as I don't think it is fair to
Lloyd, or Jan/Jenda. They want something similar, however their views of
what the journey entails to get to that place is the point of disagreement.

Regards,

Paul O'Malley
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[ubuntu-marketing] Is ubuntupeople.com offline?

2006-07-01 Thread Vid Ayer

Hi ,

Since the last few hours,  , has this message :

/quote:
This forum has been temporarily closed, due to complaints lodged
against Jenda Vancura.
/unquote

They were active 2-3 days ago.  Though registered by Canonical,
www.spreadubuntu.net is also inactive.  What's up ?

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[ubuntu-marketing] deactivated..

2006-07-01 Thread stanz
Hi All...
Sorry- I've just had the chance, to check in and catch-up, and catch all
this "deactivated", stuff. I'm a new member, no big plans or rockin'
idea's from me.
But, if i may...
Boy, did I spend allot of time surfing around the wiki & such, trying to
catch up & pitch in here. As ya all have done= huh?
I've not heard of meetings, or had direction to, or the mention of, a
meetings page? This is like- a rude awakening.
Anyway, I think its my loss for not being "able" & "available", to sit
at my PC every day...or couple of times a week, to keep up to speed,
with everything.
It was tuff enough catching up on these mailing lists ~ never mind
spending time on the irc channel.
And then, not knowing how to 'ping' someone, or find a quick link, so as
to "get back on the team", is a good way to know if ya fit in somewhere
{"qualify", is my word!}.
I feel to ponder, my membership here, as 'simple' things, all turn
"very" complicated & drawn out, as to have a level of skilled knowledge.
This is not my schooling, or job description, but it is a desire. With
all this communication, ~ there's a lack of good communication.

It's good to trim 'inactive members, that haven't posted in a year, ~
but, I must be missing some obvious thing to, "that train of thought",
since- whoever has the control to "deactivate", ~ must also know, "who
has posted recently".
Jason Macklin, Sara Vasquez, & others- voiced well. 
This must have been a heavy issue, to act so quickly without a posting
of any kind, to present "active", members, for like ~ a 30 day notice?
Just part of my opinion, sorry for the lack of abbreviations or proper
etiquette.

Peace... stanz

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing strategy [WAS, Contact point for Ubuntu Marketing team]

2006-07-01 Thread Paul O'Malley
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Vid Ayer wrote:
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> 
> After reading Jane Silbers mail :
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-marketing/2006-June/000380.html
> , where she talks of Ubuntu deployments, which IMHO has potential
> scope in getting Corporate clients to actually pay for
> Canonical/Ubuntu customised software services or generate revenue
> based on long term-contracts, 24/7 support, etc
> 
> At this point, it would be interesting to know how the Marketing team
> hopes to achieve this goal.

Hi Vid,

It could be the case that if the job is too big for you to implement you
can look upstream and gather some help together.

Hand the lead to Canonical who can pass it to any local member of its
"business club" for want of a phrase, or even help with an
implementation plan for same. Their call.

At least you tried.

Regards,

Paul O'Malley
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[ubuntu-marketing] Marketing strategy [WAS, Contact point for Ubuntu Marketing team]

2006-07-01 Thread Vid Ayer

Hi,

Just sharing my thoughts here .

On 6/30/06, Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I agree, but I tend to think that [EMAIL PROTECTED] would
do the job well, certainly at the beginning.


+1. For corporates, it would be better to keep marketing at the
professional level.

While its all-encompassing to define "marketing" as anything from
handing out CD's to helping users with small problems, the dynamics
change drastically at a corporate level, where the environment is
definitely high pressure, very competitive (and almost aggressive).

After reading Jane Silbers mail :
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-marketing/2006-June/000380.html
, where she talks of Ubuntu deployments, which IMHO has potential
scope in getting Corporate clients to actually pay for
Canonical/Ubuntu customised software services or generate revenue
based on long term-contracts, 24/7 support, etc

At this point, it would be interesting to know how the Marketing team
hopes to achieve this goal.

Thanks.
-Vid

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