[ubuntu-marketing] ubuntu cd

2009-10-24 Thread Sakun Liyanage
I am in Marketing list in you do not approved my request. i want pass these cd 
in my country.



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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Reviving the Marketing Team (yet again!) with a focus on simple activism

2009-10-24 Thread Jake Bradbury
My two cents:

I think a meeting to discuss the direction of the Ubuntu Marketing team
would be a great first step. I would be excited to participate. I can make
time on Monday the 2nd as suggested by Martin. We do need a leader(s) to
provide a coherent goal/strategy and to prioritize activities supporting
that strategy. My opinion is that marketing should focus on getting the
Ubuntu message out. Ubuntu is "Linux for human beings" but a lot of less
tech savvy users either don't know about Ubuntu or are intimidated by
anything "Linux" (they think "oh I don't know enough about computers to use
Linux - that's for programmers.")

I would suggest:

   - The main *goal *of the Ubuntu Marketing team should be to increase the
   OS marketshare for Ubuntu.
   - The *strategy *would be to raise awareness and understanding of the
   benefits of Ubuntu vs. other OSs
   - The *activities *would be activities (blogging, setting up labs at
   universities, hosting Windows 7-style "launch parties" [kidding on that last
   one] etc.) that the community and Locos would carry out. We could decide on
   specifics of those at the meeting.

These are my suggestions for a starting point and I hope that you all can
improve on them. And while I don't think that we need financial support from
Canonical, it would be nice to have an "official" representative from
Canonical at the meeting. A little direction from Canonical could go a long
way in helping the community decide where to focus and then supporting the
community in its activities.

 Mozilla has done a great job of this. Check out (
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/.) By contrast, the efforts of the Ubuntu
marketing group have been (or at least seemed to me) very ad hoc and
targeted at the existing Ubuntu community. E.g. I love the magazine and the
volunteers do a great job on it. However, the magazine isn't an initiative
to evangelize people outside of the existing Ubuntu community - it is
something that engages the existing user base.

Perhaps some Locos are doing things to get the word out about Ubuntu, but it
would be great to do some coordination and share what works.

Jake

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Martin Owens  wrote:

> Hey John,
>
> First, please don't post giant text. Or if you do, make all of your text
> giant. :-)
>
> On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 10:36 -0500, John Vilsack wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the offer.  I'm not looking to throw anyone under the bus
> > about what occurred.  It was just all standard fare if you are used to
> > those sort of politics.  The people who held up the greatest amount of
> > resistance know who they were an no amount of reconciliation seemed to
> > matter.  If you keep prodding enough, they will make their presence
> > known :)
>
> If you feel there is such a problem and it can't be reconciled, then
> we'll call a meeting. How does Monday 2nd November 2009, 23:00 UTC (6pm
> EST) sound, we'll have it in #ubuntu-meeting and make sure that the
> community knows it's going on.
>
> First and only agenda item, to elect a leader, or if enough people can
> not agree, to elect a board. 5 is usually a good number, but it depends
> on how many people are interested in marketing.
>
> Those who were burned last time only need to come to this one meeting,
> if it turns sour then you need not invest any more time than that. But
> it's worth not giving up just yet. Assuming we can get a gracious leader
> with a bit of vision, then the politics will largely fall away.
>
> Regards, Martin
> >
>
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[ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Team

2009-10-24 Thread Mike Feravolo
Hello:

We noticed this list has been very active the last few days, with a lot 
of talk about "advocacy,  activism and other words that have nothing to 
do with marketing.

For the Ubuntu marketing team to be effective there needs to be finance 
support from the Canonical, we have been a member of this team and other 
Ubuntu loco for a couple of years and haven't seen anything that would 
efficiently sell Ubuntu to Windows users.

Realistically, a marketing campaign needs to be directed to  people 
that  don't  even know Ubuntu exists and  in a clear and concise manner 
shows them why they want to ditch Windows. Expecting to go up against a 
mind set that there is no other choice then windows and a multi-billion 
dollar ad spend by Microsoft with no money is ridiculous.

Obviously you are never going to out spend them on the delivery, but you 
could out do them in the area of production and then make use of what 
ever medium you can afford to get the word out.

I run a Linux page on facebook that has about 4300 people and would be 
happy to let people join post anything about ubuntu there, I have found 
there is a solid ubuntu user base in addition to other types of linux.

http://facebook.com/LinuxHelp

Still there has to be a way of rasing money for the purpose of selling 
ubuntu,  because selling is what marketing is all about. In order to 
sell anyone anything you have to let people know what is is it for them.

Peace
Mike F.
Cocoa Beach, FL




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