RE: moblin applets status update
On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 09:57 -0800, Brandt, Todd E wrote: > I tend to favor having as much control as possible, but was overruled > since having both the PCM and Front controls confuses the “average” > user. Thanks for the note though, I’ll keep an eye on the media app > to be sure there are no conflicts. How does this confuse the average user? Windows has the same control on most sound cards, it's just labeled "wave". Also, each system has it's own configuration in the hda driver, so what you see on Samsung Q1 Ultra is different than on the CrownBeach, or any other platform for that matter. As an alsa developer, I'm trying to make the mixer controls as intuitive as possible for the given system, but the PCM control is a soft volume control handled in userspace. -- Tobin Davis I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it. -- Groucho Marx -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
RE: moblin applets status update
I tend to favor having as much control as possible, but was overruled since having both the PCM and Front controls confuses the "average" user. Thanks for the note though, I'll keep an eye on the media app to be sure there are no conflicts. From: Tobin Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:45 AM To: Brandt, Todd E Cc: ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: moblin applets status update On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 08:52 -0800, Brandt, Todd E wrote: * Mixer Applet - Fixed the Volume applet to incorporate the UDS and Bob Spencer's suggestions * Removed the PCM tab. The PCM volume is now set behind the scenes to 98% high so as to prevent distortion, and the user can now only control the speakers, microphone, and headphones. A word of caution on this. Some apps use the default PCM device to play audio, and they control their volume settings via the PCM control, which is a softvol plugin in alsa. Hardcoding it in the mixer and removing the controls may allow a program to leave audio in an unusable state. -- Tobin Davis It is all right to hold a conversation, but you should let go of it now and then. -- Richard Armour -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: moblin applets status update
On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 08:52 -0800, Brandt, Todd E wrote: > * Mixer Applet - Fixed the Volume applet to incorporate the UDS > and Bob Spencer's suggestions > * Removed the PCM tab. The PCM volume is now set behind the >scenes to 98% high so as to prevent distortion, and the >user can now only control the speakers, microphone, and > headphones. A word of caution on this. Some apps use the default PCM device to play audio, and they control their volume settings via the PCM control, which is a softvol plugin in alsa. Hardcoding it in the mixer and removing the controls may allow a program to leave audio in an unusable state. -- Tobin Davis It is all right to hold a conversation, but you should let go of it now and then. -- Richard Armour -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
moblin applets status update
Pushed version 0.21 Gaston to the apt repo, the changes are as follows: * Added Danny Varner's additions to the touchscreen applet * About Me Applet - Completey tore down the about-me dialog to just include a single pane with the following information Username - the nickname or username for login purposes First Name - Given Name Last Name - Family Name Home Phone Mobile Phone Address Street Address P.O. Box Country State City Zip Code Email - the primary email account These all still transmit to the evolution data server and so stil function as before, just with less of them. * Help Buttons - Removed all the Help buttons from the applets since there is no globale help insfrastructure in place. * Network Proxy - Changed the port entry boxes in the network proxy dialog from spinbuggon widgets to standard text entry widgets. * Applet Names - Renamed all the remaining applets to Keyboard - formerly Keyboard Properties Sound - formerly Sound Mixer Buttons - formerly Keybindings Proxy - formerly Network Proxy Background - formerly Backgroun Properties About Me - stayed the same * Mixer Applet - Fixed the Volume applet to incorporate the UDS and Bob Spencer's suggestions * Removed the PCM tab. The PCM volume is now set behind the scenes to 98% high so as to prevent distortion, and the user can now only control the speakers, microphone, and headphones. * Removed all the Volume buttons and replaced the them with just the two sliders, set apart widely for easy scrolling of left and right. * Removed the left and right channel mute buttons and replaced them with a single mute button per tab * BUGS FIXED * BUG: "re-launch control panel applets (Background Properties) will cause control panel exist unexpectedly." BUGLINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/moblin-applets/+bug/155679 FIX: I tried this using the latest target image on a samsung using moblin-applets 0.20 and was able to successfully open, select, close over and over again more than 10 times without fail. I believe I fixed this when I removed all the superflous background settings like "for all users or just this one" and "stretch, tiles, center, etc". * BUG: "change network configuration applet settings cause application launch issue" BUGLINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/moblin-applets/+bug/156545 FIX: For beta2 we have removed the network configuration applet since it was more powerful than your average user will ever need. Also it was apparantly more trouble than it was worth. * BUG: "the dialog display is not correct" BUGLINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/moblin-applets/+bug/156528 FIX: In the latest build, the control panel has been removed and all the control panel apps are actually called by hildon-desktop from the desktop. So none of the control panel menu functions exist anymore - Restore original Settings, Clear user data, and Mobile Operator Setup Wizard. Since these functions don't exist, this bug is no longer reproducable and is tacitly fixed. * BUG: "Cannot open Control Panel->Tools->Moblile operator setup wizard submenu" BUGLINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/moblin-ui-framework/+bug/164246 FIX: In the latest build, the control panel has been removed and all the control panel apps are actually called by hildon-desktop from the desktop. So none of the control panel menu functions exist anymore - Restore original Settings, Clear user data, and Mobile Operator Setup Wizard. Since these functions don't exist, this bug is no longer reproducable and is tacitly fixed. * BUG: "Control Panel->Tools->Restore original settings doesn't take effect" BUGLINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/moblin-ui-framework/+bug/164251 FIX: In the latest build, the control panel has been removed and all the control panel apps are actually called by hildon-desktop from the desktop. So none of the control panel menu functions exist anymore - Restore original Settings, Clear user data, and Mobile Operator Setup Wizard. Since these functions don't exist, this bug is no longer reproducable and is tacitly fixed. * BUG: "Control Panel->Tools->Clear user data doesn't take effect" BUGLINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/moblin-ui-framework/+bug/164255 FIX: In the latest build, the control panel has been removed and all the control panel apps are actually called by hildon-desktop from the desktop. So none of the control panel menu functions exist anymore - Restore original Settings, Clear user data, and Mobile Operator Setup Wizard. Since these
moblin-applets status update
Volume status bar applet: Added a volume status bar icon and slider based on the mixer applet from the gnome-applets package. Removed the bonobo and PanelApplet interfaces and replaced them with the Hildon status bar API. Also removed all dependencies on gstreamer and replaced it with direct calls to the /dev/mixer device. Screen Brightness status bar applet: Added a screen brightness status bar icon and slider based on the brightness applet from the gnome-power-manager package. Removed the bonobo and PanelApplet interfaces and replaced them with the Hildon status bar API. Also removed any dependencies on the gnome power manager and replaced the low level brightness calls with DBUS calls directly to HAL. Touchscreen configuration control panel applet: Danny Varner has been working on adding a touchscreen configuration utility to moblin-applets. He has identified the evtouch calibration utility as the best source base and has adapted it for use on moblin. The utility will make changes to xorg-samsungq1ultra.conf and control the /dev/touchscreen driver. Soft Keyboard support in the keyboard control panel applet: Jian Han has added a new tab to the keyboard configuration applet which allows for configuration of the soft keyboard. The user can select whether or not to autolaunch the soft keyboard and can select its layout. - | Todd Brandt - Intel Oregon | |Linux for Mobile Internet Devices (MID)| | 2111 W NE 25th Ave| |Hillsboro, OR 97124 JF1-235| |---| | "Of all the things I've lost, I miss | |my mind the most" - Mark Twain | - -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Moblin Applets Status Update
[General] Removed all conflicts between moblin-applets and any of the existing packages it draws code from: gnome-control-center, gnome-system-tools, and gnome-system-monitor. It can now be installed along side any of these packages. Also removed the gnome-settings-daemon build as this is not changed in moblin-applets and was conflicting with gnome-control-center install. Am in the process of completely removing any dependencies on gnome-settings-daemon within any of our applets. [New Applets] System Monitor applet: * Added in the code from gnome-system-monitor into moblin applets. * Made the necessary changes to hildonize the code and enable multiple dialog calls within a single process call. * Altered the dialog images to display the moblin logo instead of gnome. * Updated the debian package info with the gnome-system-monitor author, license, and copyright information. [Existing Applet Updates] Network Proxy: About Me: * bugs 151 and 152 verified, they have to do with the g_module_symbol call in libglade failing to see the "creation_function" symbol defined in about-me.glade. Background: * bug 159 filed, not yet verified Font * bug 155 verified, this has existed for a while and is caused by mismatched gconf keys between the font applet and the hildon environment. Screen Resolution: Sound Properties: * sound devices not yet detected, still root causing Keybindings: * bug 160 verified, this has to do with the gconf settings, still root causing. Keyboard Properties: * bug 157 filed, not yet verified. Menu & Toolbars: Network Admin: Date and Time: * fixed issues with crash, dialog can now be run multiple times without fail * fixed Mercator projection image in time zones * appears to function well now but needs QA verification. [Anticipated Applets] Volume Control status bar applet This code doesn't yet conform to the hildon status bar applet format, and so is not yet being displayed. Waiting for an update from Tariq. Screen Brightness control panel applet: Not yet received from Tariq - | Todd Brandt - Intel Oregon | |Linux for Mobile Internet Devices (MID)| | 2111 W NE 25th Ave| |Hillsboro, OR 97124 JF1-235| |---| | "Of all the things I've lost, I miss | |my mind the most" - Mark Twain | - -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Moblin Applets Status Update
Gconf settings enablement: I'm in the process of creating a spreadsheet which lists all of the gconf keys; their paths, values, and descriptions; that moblin uses. This will serve as a starting point for decisions on what keys need to be added or changed, and will also enable application owners to tie into what the control panel configures. I will have this out by tomorrow. Network Manager bug fix: The network manager's inclusion into the ubuntu-mobile meta package has caused a failure during fset installation. This was root caused to a fault in the lsb-base-logging.sh function log_daemon_msg, which wasn't handling border cases properly and was crashing. I sent a patch to the Ubuntu mailing list and Tollef has agreed to have it pushed upstream into lsb-base. John V has also provided a patch which allows for inhibiting whether the network services are restarted after the package is installed. Existing Applets Updates * Network Proxy * About Me * Background * Font * Screen Resolution * Sound Properties * Keybindings * Keyboard Properties * Menu & Toolbars * Network Admin * Date and Time 1. Still buggy, can only run the dialog a few times before crash, and the mercator projection for time zones doesn't draw correctly. Anticipated Applets * Volume Control status bar applet 1. This code doesn't yet conform to the hildon status bar applet format, and so is not yet being displayed. Waiting for an update from Tariq. * Screen Brightness control panel applet: 1. Not yet received from Tariq Todd Brandt - Intel Oregon Linux for Mobile Internet Devices (MID) 2111 W NE 25th Ave Hillsboro, OR 97124 MS: JF1-235 Tel: (503) 264-4035 <><>-- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
RE: Moblin Applets Status Update
The possible values I have seen are: 800x480 800x600 1024x600 I think that 800x480 is a good low-end to support. Smaller devices will have to fend for themselves. I don't know about the right font size to use at that resolution. Something your g-ma can read w/o her 3" thick glasses... or maybe with. Bob From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brandt, Todd E Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:04 PM To: Len Kawell Cc: ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: RE: Moblin Applets Status Update Actually this brings up a great point, we should define a minimum screen resolution and font size that the moblin UI should function within. Is 800x480 as small as we'll ever go? From: Len Kawell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:57 PM To: Brandt, Todd E Cc: ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Moblin Applets Status Update Todd, I noticed you said that you modifed the About Me GUI to fit on a 1024x600 screen. We are working with some device makers who are building devices with 800x480 screens. Can the applet GUIs be made to fit on those smaller screens? Len On Aug 30, 2007, at 2:51 PM, Brandt, Todd E wrote: Hi all, sorry I missed the weekly meeting this morning, here's my status update: Existing Applets * Network Proxy - online and functional * About Me - online and functional, modified the GUI to fit more easily on 1024x600 screen ... snip ... -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
RE: Moblin Applets Status Update
Actually this brings up a great point, we should define a minimum screen resolution and font size that the moblin UI should function within. Is 800x480 as small as we'll ever go? From: Len Kawell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:57 PM To: Brandt, Todd E Cc: ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Moblin Applets Status Update Todd, I noticed you said that you modifed the About Me GUI to fit on a 1024x600 screen. We are working with some device makers who are building devices with 800x480 screens. Can the applet GUIs be made to fit on those smaller screens? Len On Aug 30, 2007, at 2:51 PM, Brandt, Todd E wrote: Hi all, sorry I missed the weekly meeting this morning, here's my status update: Existing Applets * Network Proxy - online and functional * About Me - online and functional, modified the GUI to fit more easily on 1024x600 screen ... snip ... -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Moblin Applets Status Update
Todd, I noticed you said that you modifed the About Me GUI to fit on a 1024x600 screen. We are working with some device makers who are building devices with 800x480 screens. Can the applet GUIs be made to fit on those smaller screens? Len On Aug 30, 2007, at 2:51 PM, Brandt, Todd E wrote: Hi all, sorry I missed the weekly meeting this morning, here’s my status update: Existing Applets Network Proxy – online and functional About Me – online and functional, modified the GUI to fit more easily on 1024x600 screen ... snip ... -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Moblin Applets Status Update
Hi all, sorry I missed the weekly meeting this morning, here's my status update: Existing Applets * Network Proxy - online and functional * About Me - online and functional, modified the GUI to fit more easily on 1024x600 screen * Background Properties - online and functional * Font - online and functional * Screen Resolution - online and functional * Sound Properties - online and functional, however hasn't been tested for ALSA driver compliance * Keybindings - online, but currently can't see all the keys, this is being root caused Applets Added Since Last Week * Keyboard Properties - Taken from gnome control center, Jian Han is the new owner of this applet and will be adding in soft keyboard support * Menu & Toolbars - online, but currently the settings don't take, this is being root caused * Network Admin - online but not yet functional, this is the GUI front end for the NetworkManager daemon and hasn't yet been tested on real hardware. Raji Bommaraju is the new owner of network management on moblin and is in the process of testing these tools. * Date and Time - online but not yet functional, both this and the Network Admin applet come from the gnome-system-tools package which, like gnome-control-center, was designed to support applets as separate processes. The Gnome-system-tools code has taken the extra step of consolidating all the process instantiation code into a common library, making it harder to convert to the hildon-contol-panel framework, but I'm making good progress. Applets Expected For Next Week * Volume Control status bar applet: This is Tariq Shureih's code which will be added in to a new directory alongside capplets in the moblin-applets tree: sapplets. * Screen Brightness control panel applet: This is also Tariq's code and will be merged into moblin applets. Todd Brandt - Intel Oregon Linux for Mobile Internet Devices (MID) 2111 W NE 25th Ave Hillsboro, OR 97124 MS: JF1-235 Tel: (503) 264-4035 <><>-- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
