Re: Using a Gutsy Install CD directly on Menlow-Crown Beach system
Sorry, just noticed that you said it doesn't happen with the other kernel. So perhaps they're both kernel issues, but I think they're probably unrelated (the installer hang is while loading storage drivers). On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 11:00:02AM +0100, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > The alternate CD doesn't use usplash, no. This looks like a kernel issue > and usplash is probably an unrelated issue. > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 03:39:52PM -0700, Lynch, Rusty wrote: > > BTW, Matin Xu (in our PRC team) is seeing a hang if he attempts to enable > > usplash on Menlow using the UME kernel, but the problem doesn't show up on > > the moblin kernel. Is the install using usplash? > > > > Either way a bug report is coming. Just thought that maybe this was the > > same bug. > > > > --rusty > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Matt Zimmerman > > Sent: Thu 8/16/2007 2:01 PM > > To: ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: Re: Using a Gutsy Install CD directly on Menlow-Crown Beach system > > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 01:35:58PM -0700, Rhoads, Rob wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > If the -generic kernel will work on Crown Beach, then it ought to > > > > work OK. If it got as far as the middle of the install, then the > > > > problems are likely minor (or hardware-related?). > > > > > > > > > > Below is the info I have on where it broke during the install: > > > > Ah, OK. That's very near the beginning of the install. :-) > > > > It's failing to load enough drivers to even find the CD. > > > > > > > > Rose, James wrote: > > > > Using the Tribe 4 alternate install CD and selecting Install in text > > > > mode,after keyboard detection, I get to the screen > > > > > > > > Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives > > > > 5% > > > > Loading module 'ide-core' for 'Linux IDE support'... > > > > > > > > The install never returns out of this. > > > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > -RobR > > > > -- > > - mdz > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-mobile mailing list > > Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile > > -- > - mdz -- - mdz -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Using a Gutsy Install CD directly on Menlow-Crown Beach system
The alternate CD doesn't use usplash, no. This looks like a kernel issue and usplash is probably an unrelated issue. On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 03:39:52PM -0700, Lynch, Rusty wrote: > BTW, Matin Xu (in our PRC team) is seeing a hang if he attempts to enable > usplash on Menlow using the UME kernel, but the problem doesn't show up on > the moblin kernel. Is the install using usplash? > > Either way a bug report is coming. Just thought that maybe this was the same > bug. > > --rusty > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Matt Zimmerman > Sent: Thu 8/16/2007 2:01 PM > To: ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Using a Gutsy Install CD directly on Menlow-Crown Beach system > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 01:35:58PM -0700, Rhoads, Rob wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > If the -generic kernel will work on Crown Beach, then it ought to > > > work OK. If it got as far as the middle of the install, then the > > > problems are likely minor (or hardware-related?). > > > > > > > Below is the info I have on where it broke during the install: > > Ah, OK. That's very near the beginning of the install. :-) > > It's failing to load enough drivers to even find the CD. > > > > > Rose, James wrote: > > > Using the Tribe 4 alternate install CD and selecting Install in text > > > mode,after keyboard detection, I get to the screen > > > > > > Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives > > > 5% > > > Loading module 'ide-core' for 'Linux IDE support'... > > > > > > The install never returns out of this. > > > > > > James > > > > > > > -RobR > > -- > - mdz > > -- > Ubuntu-mobile mailing list > Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile -- - mdz -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Using a Gutsy Install CD directly on Menlow-Crown Beach system
* "Lynch, Rusty" | BTW, Matin Xu (in our PRC team) is seeing a hang if he attempts to | enable usplash on Menlow using the UME kernel, but the problem | doesn't show up on the moblin kernel. Is the install using usplash? I don't believe the alternate install CD is using usplash, no. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
RE: Using a Gutsy Install CD directly on Menlow-Crown Beach system
BTW, Matin Xu (in our PRC team) is seeing a hang if he attempts to enable usplash on Menlow using the UME kernel, but the problem doesn't show up on the moblin kernel. Is the install using usplash? Either way a bug report is coming. Just thought that maybe this was the same bug. --rusty -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Matt Zimmerman Sent: Thu 8/16/2007 2:01 PM To: ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Using a Gutsy Install CD directly on Menlow-Crown Beach system On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 01:35:58PM -0700, Rhoads, Rob wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > If the -generic kernel will work on Crown Beach, then it ought to > > work OK. If it got as far as the middle of the install, then the > > problems are likely minor (or hardware-related?). > > > > Below is the info I have on where it broke during the install: Ah, OK. That's very near the beginning of the install. :-) It's failing to load enough drivers to even find the CD. > > Rose, James wrote: > > Using the Tribe 4 alternate install CD and selecting Install in text > > mode,after keyboard detection, I get to the screen > > > > Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives > > 5% > > Loading module 'ide-core' for 'Linux IDE support'... > > > > The install never returns out of this. > > > > James > > > > -RobR -- - mdz -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Using a Gutsy Install CD directly on Menlow-Crown Beach system
On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 01:35:58PM -0700, Rhoads, Rob wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > If the -generic kernel will work on Crown Beach, then it ought to > > work OK. If it got as far as the middle of the install, then the > > problems are likely minor (or hardware-related?). > > > > Below is the info I have on where it broke during the install: Ah, OK. That's very near the beginning of the install. :-) It's failing to load enough drivers to even find the CD. > > Rose, James wrote: > > Using the Tribe 4 alternate install CD and selecting Install in text > > mode,after keyboard detection, I get to the screen > > > > Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives > > 5% > > Loading module 'ide-core' for 'Linux IDE support'... > > > > The install never returns out of this. > > > > James > > > > -RobR -- - mdz -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
RE: Using a Gutsy Install CD directly on Menlow-Crown Beach system
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If the -generic kernel will work on Crown Beach, then it ought to > work OK. If it got as far as the middle of the install, then the > problems are likely minor (or hardware-related?). > Below is the info I have on where it broke during the install: Rose, James wrote: > Using the Tribe 4 alternate install CD and selecting Install in text > mode,after keyboard detection, I get to the screen > > Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives > 5% > Loading module 'ide-core' for 'Linux IDE support'... > > The install never returns out of this. > > James > -RobR -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Using a Gutsy Install CD directly on Menlow-Crown Beach system
On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 01:53:08PM -0700, Rhoads, Rob wrote: > Will it ever be possible to take the Gutsy Install CD and use it to > install the full Gutsy directly on a Menlow (e.g. Crown Beach) > platform's hard disk drive? This is a different usage scenario from > using a Menlow image created with moblin image-creator. > > The reason I ask is that I've got an engineer who tried this usage > scenario using the Tribe 4 CD and the install crashed in the middle. > (I'd guess it was because the install CD may not be using the UME kernel > which would cause problem on a Crown Beach.) I think we can accommodate > his needs for installing full Gutsy on a Menlow system with > image-creator, by either providing him with custom FSets (or showing him > how to create them) for creating menlow images which will suite his > needs. But I wanted to pick the collective brain on this type of usage > scenario. If the -generic kernel will work on Crown Beach, then it ought to work OK. If it got as far as the middle of the install, then the problems are likely minor (or hardware-related?). -- - mdz -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
RE: Using a Gutsy Install CD directly on Menlow-Crown Beach system
Bryce Harrington wrote: > If this is considered an important use case, this might be > something to > work towards for Gutsy+1, but I think it may be too late in the cycle > for Gutsy. > That's what I'm wondering, is there a real demand for this usage scenario? I'm not sure there is enough demand to merit the effort, thus one of the reasons I threw it out on the mailing list. In this particular case, as I mentioned in my previous email, I think we can accommodate the request by creating a custom image using image-creator which uses custom, or additional FSets for the particular need. -RobR -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Using a Gutsy Install CD directly on Menlow-Crown Beach system
On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 01:53:08PM -0700, Rhoads, Rob wrote: > Will it ever be possible to take the Gutsy Install CD and use it to > install the full Gutsy directly on a Menlow (e.g. Crown Beach) > platform's hard disk drive? This is a different usage scenario from > using a Menlow image created with moblin image-creator. > > The reason I ask is that I've got an engineer who tried this usage > scenario using the Tribe 4 CD and the install crashed in the middle. > (I'd guess it was because the install CD may not be using the UME kernel > which would cause problem on a Crown Beach.) I think we can accommodate > his needs for installing full Gutsy on a Menlow system with > image-creator, by either providing him with custom FSets (or showing him > how to create them) for creating menlow images which will suite his > needs. But I wanted to pick the collective brain on this type of usage > scenario. Aside from the kernel, there would also be the issue of having the installer detect and set up the -psb X driver. (This is why I was asking about how the xorg.conf is generated when we met last week.) Possibly it would load up the vesa driver, which the installer usually does when it doesn't know what else to do. If this is considered an important use case, this might be something to work towards for Gutsy+1, but I think it may be too late in the cycle for Gutsy. Bryce -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Using a Gutsy Install CD directly on Menlow-Crown Beach system
Will it ever be possible to take the Gutsy Install CD and use it to install the full Gutsy directly on a Menlow (e.g. Crown Beach) platform's hard disk drive? This is a different usage scenario from using a Menlow image created with moblin image-creator. The reason I ask is that I've got an engineer who tried this usage scenario using the Tribe 4 CD and the install crashed in the middle. (I'd guess it was because the install CD may not be using the UME kernel which would cause problem on a Crown Beach.) I think we can accommodate his needs for installing full Gutsy on a Menlow system with image-creator, by either providing him with custom FSets (or showing him how to create them) for creating menlow images which will suite his needs. But I wanted to pick the collective brain on this type of usage scenario. +=+=+ Rob Rhoads mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Architect Open Source Technology CenterOffice: 503-712-6675 Software Solutions Group mobile: 971-533-2451 Intel Corporation Hillsboro, Oregon USA -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
