Re: don't use bug tasks for transitions
Moins, sorry for the delay of replying to this thread, but the LinuxTag was not so good for reading and writing mails ;) On Sat, 31 May 2008 02:35:03 +0200 Stefan Potyra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Finally, one option to handle transitions via LP was also proposed: it's easier to file [separate] bugs and tag those [3]. Tags have their own problems (see recent discussions on ubuntu-devel). I'd say it's much harder. One mass bug is one email. One bug per package is one email per package. The problem afaict is that mass bugs generate email, for each package, even if this package is already fixed. And yes, tags have their own problems. That's why I wrote that it could be one option. I'd be eager to hear what other solutions exist for this problem. as long as LP doesn't offer a real task tracker...there is no solution (without introducing new tools which are not linked to LP). The discussion is always about workflow tasks...and not about real bug reports. So...what are the LP people thinking about adding workflow structures to LP? IMHO this could be also a good business case for customers... Regards, \sh -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu
Re: MOTU School presenter wanted
James Westby wrote: I'm looking for volunteers to present a session. There are a couple of requested sessions that have received a couple of votes, which would be good to have if someone feels confident in talking about them: ... * Effectively using and interpreting apport retraces I could do this one. My preference would be for somewhere 10:00 - 13:00 UTC on a weekday. -- Emmet HIKORY -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu
motu-sru extension
Dear MC, please set up polls for extending motu-sru/replacing retired members [1]. Daniel, maybe you'd also like to transfer team ownership to MC (see [2]). Candidates: Stephan Hermann [3] Scott Kitterman [4] Cody A.W. Somerville [5] looks, like we need two members (follow-ups to [1]), but that might be subject to discussion. Can I propose to extend the numbers of members in the motu-sru team to 6? Unless somebody objects we can have a full team up and running again in no time, with plenty of enthusiasts ready to process all our SRU to everybody's satisfaction. Cesare -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu
Re: motu-sru extension
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Cesare Tirabassi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear MC, please set up polls for extending motu-sru/replacing retired members [1]. Daniel, maybe you'd also like to transfer team ownership to MC (see [2]). Candidates: Stephan Hermann [3] Scott Kitterman [4] Cody A.W. Somerville [5] looks, like we need two members (follow-ups to [1]), but that might be subject to discussion. Can I propose to extend the numbers of members in the motu-sru team to 6? Unless somebody objects we can have a full team up and running again in no time, with plenty of enthusiasts ready to process all our SRU to everybody's satisfaction. As one of the people being replaced, I'd like to say that I think the number of people in the team not nearly as important as having people who are dedicated to being an active part of the MOTU SRU team. I personally don't think 6 people are necessary, but I don't see real problems with it and I'd hate to waste good candidates like these :-) +1 from me. -Jordan -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu
Re: motu-sru extension
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Cesare Tirabassi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear MC, please set up polls for extending motu-sru/replacing retired members [1]. Daniel, maybe you'd also like to transfer team ownership to MC (see [2]). Candidates: Stephan Hermann [3] Scott Kitterman [4] Cody A.W. Somerville [5] looks, like we need two members (follow-ups to [1]), but that might be subject to discussion. Can I propose to extend the numbers of members in the motu-sru team to 6? Unless somebody objects we can have a full team up and running again in no time, with plenty of enthusiasts ready to process all our SRU to everybody's satisfaction. Cesare -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu Hi, I would just like to make a suggestion if you wish to expand the team then it should cover different timezones since the motu-sru might not always be available. Regards chuck -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu
Re: motu-sru extension
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Chuck Short [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Hi, I would just like to make a suggestion if you wish to expand the team then it should cover different timezones since the motu-sru might not always be available. Why is that nessary? When is a member of the SRU team ever needed *immediately*? If that is the case, I don't mind giving out my phone number (if I'm placed on the team). Regards chuck -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu -- Cody A.W. Somerville Software Engineer Red Cow Marketing Technologies, Inc. Office: 506-458-1290 Toll Free: 1-877-733-2699 Fax: 506-453-9112 Cell: 506-449-5899 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.redcow.ca -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu
Re: motu-sru extension
Cody A.W. Somerville wrote: Chuck Short wrote: I would just like to make a suggestion if you wish to expand the team then it should cover different timezones since the motu-sru might not always be available. Why is that nessary? When is a member of the SRU team ever needed *immediately*? If that is the case, I don't mind giving out my phone number MOTU SRU isn't needed immediately, but it's nice to have someone available for discussion in #ubuntu-motu if one is considering working on something, and wants a second opinion to verify it's worth doing. -- Emmet HIKORY -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu
Re: motu-sru extension
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Cody A.W. Somerville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Chuck Short [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Hi, I would just like to make a suggestion if you wish to expand the team then it should cover different timezones since the motu-sru might not always be available. Why is that nessary? When is a member of the SRU team ever needed *immediately*? If that is the case, I don't mind giving out my phone number (if I'm placed on the team). Well, most SRUs don't need immediate attention (since security follows a different workflow) however it is good to spread timezones because people often do have question for MOTU SRU members or you want to chat with somebody working on an SRU. It's just generally not great to have the whole team in one general timezone. With Stephan and Luka on European timezones, Luke in AU, and John, Cody, and Scott in the Americas we'd have fairly good coverage. -Jordan -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu
Re: motu-sru extension
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 4:16 AM, Michael Bienia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-06-01 04:44:55 +0200, Stefan Potyra wrote: looks, like we need two members (follow-ups to [1]), but that might be subject to discussion. As I had to go out and look after one ~motu-sru member to get my SRUs ACKed, I'd like to hear from the remaining ~motu-sru members how many new members should be added to the team to get it operational again. Well, I think the minimum would probably be 3 because it's hard to keep a consistent and varied group otherwise and I probably wouldn't go more than 6 or 7 because communication becomes more difficult and productivity tends to go down due to anonymity. When it's a fairly small team you know you have to contribute to the team and there's more investment in the team. However, when a team gets large each member's part shrinks and they can tend to get disinterested. But again, this really is really a function of the dynamics of the team and there are ways to effectively use large teams too (having a team lead with subteam works on specific task, or expanding the team's scope). -Jordan -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu
