CIM/WBEM packages (SBLIM) - call to advocate

2009-11-27 Thread Guillaume Bottex
Ancoron, are you aware of the existence of other CIM providers in Karmic
called OpenDRIM ?

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Re: CIM/WBEM packages (SBLIM) - call to advocate

2009-11-27 Thread Ancoron Luciferis
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Hi Guillaume,

I didn't realize that they made it into Karmic, but I just saw them
right after I wrote my mail. Sorry that I forgot them. But the problem
remains the same that there are just too few providers.

Just providing a very basic set isn't enough to compete with the other
distributions and as the OpenDRIM providers also depend on SFCB it
shouldn't matter which provider set we provide as long as the enterprise
users get what they need/want.

Also I could additionally start to package the other OpenDRIM providers
if that is officially preferred but I stuck to the SBLIM implementation
until now because SFCB is available since Intrepid and their providers
are confirmed to work and at least bug reports are available and bugs
get fixed by upstream devs rather quickly.

In addition it is nice that there's an alternative. Alternatives are
always a good thing. However as OpenDRIM is a rather new project
(compared to SBLIM) I think SBLIM providers should be preferred for now
in terms of security and stability.

I also miss some upstream documentation about the matching management
profiles of the providers and the providers doesn't even have a
ChangeLog file to track upstream changes automatically.

This is true for some of the newer providers from SBLIM too but at least
they made it into a variety of distributions including RedHat and Suse
for years so I would consider them rather stable.

What do you think?

The work I have done until now and the time I spent shouldn't be wasted.
In my PPA I have the following additional providers:

sblim-cmpi-service
sblim-cmpi-smbios
sblim-cmpi-sysfs

Others are coming soon. As I have a lot of spare time in the next weeks
I would really like to concentrate on packaging to get the last bits in
the right place.

I will take a closer look at the OpenDRIM providers and see how they work.

If we focus on OpenDRIM we should also take another CIM broker as it
doesn't make sense to provide nice GPL'ed providers when there is no
GPL'ed broker available.


Best regards,

Ancoron


Guillaume Bottex wrote:
 Ancoron, are you aware of the existence of other CIM providers in Karmic
 called OpenDRIM ?
 
 Regards
 
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Re: CIM/WBEM packages (SBLIM) - call to advocate

2009-11-27 Thread Mathias Gug
Hi,

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Ancoron Luciferis
anco...@chaoslayer.de wrote:
 Hi Guillaume,

 I didn't realize that they made it into Karmic, but I just saw them
 right after I wrote my mail. Sorry that I forgot them. But the problem
 remains the same that there are just too few providers.

 Just providing a very basic set isn't enough to compete with the other
 distributions and as the OpenDRIM providers also depend on SFCB it
 shouldn't matter which provider set we provide as long as the enterprise
 users get what they need/want.

If a list of the schemas and profiles supported by existing management
tools could be created, it would be very helpful in choosing which
providers to include (or start developing) in Ubuntu.

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Re: CIM/WBEM packages (SBLIM) - call to advocate

2009-11-27 Thread Ahn, Chang-Won
Hi,

 I didn't realize that they made it into Karmic, but I just saw them
 right after I wrote my mail. Sorry that I forgot them. But the problem
 remains the same that there are just too few providers.

 Just providing a very basic set isn't enough to compete with the other
 distributions and as the OpenDRIM providers also depend on SFCB it
 shouldn't matter which provider set we provide as long as the enterprise
 users get what they need/want.

For Karmic version, OpenDRIM project provided 6 provider modules and
common library as a initial step.

We are going to finish to develop the following provider modules
until the end of this year, and they should be open to other communities.

OS
CPU
Simple Identity Management
DNS
DHCP
Software Inventory
Bios
Boot Control
PCI Information
Power State Management
Sensor
Software Update
Power Supply
Battery
SSH

Next year, we hope to cover almost all the management profiles
developed by DMTF.

- Ahn, Chang-Won (OpenDRIM Project Leader)
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Re: CIM/WBEM packages (SBLIM) - call to advocate

2009-11-27 Thread Ancoron Luciferis
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Mathias Gug wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Ancoron Luciferis
 anco...@chaoslayer.de wrote:
 Hi Guillaume,

 I didn't realize that they made it into Karmic, but I just saw them
 right after I wrote my mail. Sorry that I forgot them. But the problem
 remains the same that there are just too few providers.

 Just providing a very basic set isn't enough to compete with the other
 distributions and as the OpenDRIM providers also depend on SFCB it
 shouldn't matter which provider set we provide as long as the enterprise
 users get what they need/want.
 
 If a list of the schemas and profiles supported by existing management
 tools could be created, it would be very helpful in choosing which
 providers to include (or start developing) in Ubuntu.
 

Well, I did some research to find out what those management tools but
couldn't find any specific documentation about that but on the other
hand I found some docs describing the profiles that are provided from
the various implementations:


Sun ILOM
- 

- - DSP1004 - Base Server Profile
- - DSP1009 - Sensors Profile
- - DSP1010 - Record Log Profile
- - DSP1011 - Physical Asset Profile
- - DSP1018 - Service Processor Profile
- - DSP1022 - CPU Profile
- - DSP1026 - System Memory Profile
- - DSP1033 - Profile Registration
- - DSP1074 - Indicator LED Profile

Reference:
http://docs.sun.com/source/820-6413-11/WS_MAN_CIM.html#50647112_53720


IBM System z Hardware Management Console
- 

- - DSP1004 - Base Server Profile
- - DSP1011 - Physical Asset Profile
- - DSP1012 - Boot Control Profile
- - DSP1018 - Service Processor Profile
- - DSP1023 - Software Inventory Profile
- - DSP1042 - System Virtualization Profile
- - DSP1057 - Virtual System Profile

Reference:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2633d0c87855f6a2d852573f700527ecb


HP Insight Management
- -

- - DSP1004 - Base Server Profile (specialized)
- - DSP1009 - Sensors Profile
- - DSP1010 - Record Log Profile
- - DSP1011 - Physical Asset Profile
- - DSP1013 - Fan Profile
- - DSP1014 - Ethernet Port Profile (specialized)
- - DSP1015 - Power Supply Profile
- - DSP1022 - CPU Profile
- - DSP1023 - Software Inventory Profile
- - DSP1026 - System Memory Profile
- - DSP1027 - Power State Management Profile
- - DSP1029 - OS Status Profile 1.0
- - DSP1033 - Profile Registration
- - DSP1035 - Host LAN Network Port Profile
- - DSP1036 - IP Interface Profile
- - DSP1040 - Platform Watchdog Profile
- - DSP1052 - Computer System Profile
- - DSP1075 - PCI Device Profile

Reference:
http://h2.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01382288/c01382288.pdf

Although this is regarding Windows servers there are separate docs about
the Linux providers HP offers:
http://docs.hp.com/en/linuxredhat.html#HP%20Integrity%20Essentials%20Foundation%20Pack%20for%20Linux


According to this document:

http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/sblim/index.php?title=SFCB,_How_low_can_you_go#Components.2C_versions_and_test_environment

And according to the most common providers (I think the most common ones
must be the ones most needed/wanted) I suggest a list of profiles for
required implementation:

- - DSP1004 - Base Server Profile
- - DSP1009 - Sensors Profile
- - DSP1010 - Record Log Profile
- - DSP1011 - Physical Asset Profile
- - DSP1013 - Fan Profile
- - DSP1015 - Power Supply Profile
- - DSP1022 - CPU Profile
- - DSP1023 - Software Inventory Profile
- - DSP1026 - System Memory Profile
- - DSP1033 - Profile Registration
- - DSP1052 - Computer System Profile


When I take that and compare it to our choices of implementations so far
(SBLIM, OpenDRIM) we have the following situation:

None of the SBLIM providers comply completely to any management profile
as far as I can see in the code. However, at least parts of the
following profiles are implemented (either released or unreleased
provider code):

- - DSP1002 - Diagnostics Profile
- - DSP1004 - Base Server Profile
- - DSP1010 - Record Log Profile
- - DSP1011 - Physical Asset Profile
- - DSP1012 - Boot Control Profile
- - DSP1014 - Ethernet Port Profile
- - DSP1016 - Telnet Service Profile
- - DSP1017 - SSH Service Profile
- - DSP1022 - CPU Profile
- - DSP1023 - Software Inventory Profile
- - DSP1026 - System Memory Profile
- - DSP1033 - Profile Registration
- - DSP1035 - Host LAN Network Port Profile
- - DSP1036 - IP Interface Profile
- - DSP1039 - Role Based Authorization Profile
- - DSP1052 - Computer System Profile
- - DSP1053 - Base Metrics Profile
- - DSP1054 - Indications Profile
- - DSP1061 - BIOS Management Profile
- - DSP1075 - PCI Device Profile
- - DSP1080 - Enabled Logical Element Profile



The OpenDRIM providers seem to be a lot better here. They seem well
designed in terms of profile compliance. The following profiles seem
completely implemented:

- - DSP1002 - Diagnostics Profile
- - DSP1004 - Base Server Profile
- - DSP1010 - 

Re: CIM/WBEM packages (SBLIM) - call to advocate

2009-11-27 Thread Ancoron Luciferis
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Hi again,

Ahn, Chang-Won wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I didn't realize that they made it into Karmic, but I just saw them
 right after I wrote my mail. Sorry that I forgot them. But the problem
 remains the same that there are just too few providers.

 Just providing a very basic set isn't enough to compete with the other
 distributions and as the OpenDRIM providers also depend on SFCB it
 shouldn't matter which provider set we provide as long as the enterprise
 users get what they need/want.
 
 For Karmic version, OpenDRIM project provided 6 provider modules and
 common library as a initial step.
 
 We are going to finish to develop the following provider modules
 until the end of this year, and they should be open to other communities.
 
 OS
 CPU
 Simple Identity Management
 DNS
 DHCP
 Software Inventory
 Bios
 Boot Control
 PCI Information
 Power State Management
 Sensor
 Software Update
 Power Supply
 Battery
 SSH
 
 Next year, we hope to cover almost all the management profiles
 developed by DMTF.
 

That's very good news!

If you need any help or just a hand please don't hesitate.

Can't wait to see Ubuntu get 'enterprised'...

Best regards,

Ancoron

P.S.: Are there any official test suites one can run against a deployed
CIMOM to verify profile compliance? I never saw any on the DMTF site.
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2009-11-27 Thread R.A. van Hagen



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