Re: review tool for new packages

2007-08-20 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 11:45 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: 
  Personally, I only see as a solution that of changing the
  ubuntu-universe-contributors team participation from an open to a
  restricted one.  Only contributors that can show a minimum level of
  competence as well as a continued interested in Ubuntu and packaging
  should be allowed to join this team, and therefore contribute new
  packages to universe.
 
 I tend to agree with changing the joining policy of
 ubuntu-universe-contributors. This leads to the question who adds people
 to the team? The administrators of that team would need to decide who is
 able to submit packages for review and who is not. Given that the group
 we are talking about is expected to still learn about packaging, we
 cannot use that as criterium.
 

I think the difficult bit would be to agree on a policy; how to
implement that policy should just be a technical matter that (I think)
can be easily solved. For instance, a couple of ideas:

- to join some teams it is required to show having done a certain amount
of work as well as a continuity in doing so. For contributors, this
would mean to keep a public log of their contributions with links to
relevant LP bug reports.

- we have a running mentoring program, where mentors should be able to
assess the readiness of their pupils to produce a certain basic (and I
stress the word basic) standard of packaging, as well as the required
continuity or interest shown.

- we can set up a trial period, at the end of which new contributors can
be confirmed as full participants of the team or rejected (or perhaps be
granted an extension in case of personal problems, other real-life (tm)
commitments etc.).

In any case, kudos to you guys for REVU being up again!

Cesare

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Re: review tool for new packages

2007-08-19 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Cesare Tirabassi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 how can we keep a useful review tool (it being REVU or LP or whatever)
 and at the same time ensure that the quality of the packages being
 reviewed is above a certain basic standard and that only packagers that
 have a real interest to submit and follow up are allowed to do so?

Thanks for rising this very interesting topic! This has been on my mind
since quite some time now

 Personally, I only see as a solution that of changing the
 ubuntu-universe-contributors team participation from an open to a
 restricted one.  Only contributors that can show a minimum level of
 competence as well as a continued interested in Ubuntu and packaging
 should be allowed to join this team, and therefore contribute new
 packages to universe.

I tend to agree with changing the joining policy of
ubuntu-universe-contributors. This leads to the question who adds people
to the team? The administrators of that team would need to decide who is
able to submit packages for review and who is not. Given that the group
we are talking about is expected to still learn about packaging, we
cannot use that as criterium.

 Note that these contributors will effectively also become filters,
 through which, under their responsability, everybody would still be able
 to upload new packages for review.

Right, the ppl could sponsor anyone.

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