Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Zoltán Balogh]

Hi,

I usually `adb shell` into the device and go to the /userdata to make a 
`tar cvf userdata.tar.gz ./*`


After that I exit the adb and simple `adb pull /userdata/userdata.tar.gz 
./` the big file. I think that is the most brutal :) and lowest level 
way to back up all the user data you have on the device.


It backs up all your application and all data you have under the 
/home/phablet space


cheers,

bzoltan

On 22/03/16 20:43, Gareth France wrote:
I'm about to  try reflashing my phone and in another thread was advise 
of what to back up. However now I've come to do it I've realised 
connecting my phone to my laptop gives me Documents, Downloads, Music 
etc with no way to get to the root directory. Accessing via SSH does 
but I have no idea how to copy off the device with this.


So how exactly do I connect via cable to the root directory and say 
copy x off phone into y on laptop?


Cheers




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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No contacts after flash

[Renato Filho]

Hey Natham,

Which channel did you flash? We recommend to use rc-proposal for
developers that want to work in the edge.
The devel proposed is very unstable and you should avoid that for now.



On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:00 PM, Eric Holmi  wrote:
> The devel channel has an issue like that occasionally. The other thing that
> fails is Google contact sync. It downloads and then instantly deletes all
> contacts. My solution was to flash rtm then upgrade via computer flashing
> (without wipe).
>
> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016, Nathan Haines  wrote:
>>
>> On 03/22/2016 04:06 PM, Gareth France wrote:
>>>
>>> So my phone was wiped and restored as planned. After placing my backed
>>> up files where they belong the calls history is working however the
>>> contacts are missing. I tried adding a contact into the blank contacts
>>> app and now have a contact called 'Test' but this has not affected the
>>> data in the addressbook directory. Deleting the addressbook directory
>>> entirely doesn't have any affect and I don't seem to be able to add any
>>> new contacts any more either.
>>>
>>> So where is it getting this data from and how do I change it back to
>>> where it should be?
>>>
>>
>> First question: did you reboot immediately after restoring your files?
>> (And if not, you might want to re-restore your contacts database and
>> reboot.)
>>
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[Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 22.03.16

[Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak]

Hello everyone,

A quick and late update e-mail today. Only a few landings actually
landing in the overlay, multiple others in flight: a new pulseaudio
bugfix for audio not transfering back to the headset after
re-connecting, new address-book-app theme fix (for the new palette), pot
file updates for ubuntu-settings-components (for VPN parts) and a new
thumbnailer + mediascanner2. We also had another arale/turbo custom
tarball released with further fixes related to the new colour palette.
The big Unity8 silo is still in-flight, with a target date of this week
still, as it's required for OTA-10.

While testing, QA also noticed a worrying issue in our rc-proposed
images that seems to get worse after installing the new OOBE Unity8 silo
- an unity8 hang [1] that might be our first promotion blocker bug for
OTA-10. Developers are looking into it as a priority, so we should have
a fix this week still.

Cheers!


* What landed in our images:
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch

#289 rc-proposed/krillin
-
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en/krillin/289.commitlog

#283 rc-proposed/vegetahd
-
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en/vegetahd/283.commitlog

#278 rc-proposed/arale
-
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/meizu.en/arale/278.commitlog


* Some useful documentation:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/RTMLandingApproaches
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/LandingProcess
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam/Smoketesting
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam/ReleaseSchedule
http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/

https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/
https://trello.com/b/AE3swczu/silo-testing
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/issues/
https://lists.launchpad.net/landing-team-changes/


* Blocking issues (stable):

** [1] unity8 hang w/ CPU pegged (needs more detail)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1560188


* Blocking issues (devel):

** devel-proposed - android lxc container fails to start
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1551150


* Issues in need of attention:

** Install the calendar app by default
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1418986

** Install the Dekko email app by default
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1477210

** Manually installed apps removed by new system image
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1558032


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No contacts after flash

[Eric Holmi]

The devel channel has an issue like that occasionally. The other thing that
fails is Google contact sync. It downloads and then instantly deletes all
contacts. My solution was to flash rtm then upgrade via computer flashing
(without wipe).
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016, Nathan Haines  wrote:

> On 03/22/2016 04:06 PM, Gareth France wrote:
>
>> So my phone was wiped and restored as planned. After placing my backed
>> up files where they belong the calls history is working however the
>> contacts are missing. I tried adding a contact into the blank contacts
>> app and now have a contact called 'Test' but this has not affected the
>> data in the addressbook directory. Deleting the addressbook directory
>> entirely doesn't have any affect and I don't seem to be able to add any
>> new contacts any more either.
>>
>> So where is it getting this data from and how do I change it back to
>> where it should be?
>>
>>
> First question: did you reboot immediately after restoring your files?
> (And if not, you might want to re-restore your contacts database and
> reboot.)
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No contacts after flash

[Gareth France]

On 22/03/16 23:28, Nathan Haines wrote:

On 03/22/2016 04:06 PM, Gareth France wrote:

So my phone was wiped and restored as planned. After placing my backed
up files where they belong the calls history is working however the
contacts are missing. I tried adding a contact into the blank contacts
app and now have a contact called 'Test' but this has not affected the
data in the addressbook directory. Deleting the addressbook directory
entirely doesn't have any affect and I don't seem to be able to add any
new contacts any more either.

So where is it getting this data from and how do I change it back to
where it should be?



First question: did you reboot immediately after restoring your files? 
(And if not, you might want to re-restore your contacts database and 
reboot.)



No I don't think I did but I have tried that several times.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No contacts after flash

[Nathan Haines]

On 03/22/2016 04:06 PM, Gareth France wrote:

So my phone was wiped and restored as planned. After placing my backed
up files where they belong the calls history is working however the
contacts are missing. I tried adding a contact into the blank contacts
app and now have a contact called 'Test' but this has not affected the
data in the addressbook directory. Deleting the addressbook directory
entirely doesn't have any affect and I don't seem to be able to add any
new contacts any more either.

So where is it getting this data from and how do I change it back to
where it should be?



First question: did you reboot immediately after restoring your files? 
(And if not, you might want to re-restore your contacts database and 
reboot.)


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[Ubuntu-phone] No contacts after flash

[Gareth France]

So my phone was wiped and restored as planned. After placing my backed 
up files where they belong the calls history is working however the 
contacts are missing. I tried adding a contact into the blank contacts 
app and now have a contact called 'Test' but this has not affected the 
data in the addressbook directory. Deleting the addressbook directory 
entirely doesn't have any affect and I don't seem to be able to add any 
new contacts any more either.


So where is it getting this data from and how do I change it back to 
where it should be?


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WG: WG: Installing Dekko fails always

[cewe2005-newsletter]

Btw: Do you have any additional SD card inserted? If you do, remove it
and check the space again.--> I did too yesterday, but it was still 3 GB...
Thanks, I will try it, but it would take some time... I'll do my best


  Von: Matthias Apitz 
 An: cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de 
CC: "ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net" 
 Gesendet: 19:44 Dienstag, 22.März 2016
 Betreff: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WG: WG: Installing Dekko fails always
   
El día Tuesday, March 22, 2016 a las 06:08:05PM +, 
cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de escribió:

> To the OP: Where do you see exactly this information about 3.0 GB of
> free space?
> --> I looked in the smartphone itself under 'system settings' and 'about this 
> phone' and 'space', like you described down here...
> 

Btw: Do you have any additional SD card inserted? If you do, remove it
and check the space again.

> Are you able to look into your phone with SSH or ADB and provide the exact 
> details?

is SSH or ADB a program to install? Do I need the mode for advanced users? Or 
is it it enough to connect the ubuntuphone to the computer via USB (I can't 
find sth)? If it has sth to do with 'terminal' -> I can't install it too.

You need a Linux or any other UNIX PC (both bring SSH clients) or a
Windows PC and the free software PuTTY; the rest is described in my booklet:

https://gurucubano.gitbooks.io/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/content/en//chapter1.html

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] uNav is killed by the system when it asks for geolocation (rc-proposed)

[Thomas Voß]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 7:43 PM, Costales  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Testers in rc-proposed are reporting this issue (this is not happen in the
> current stable):
>
> - Open uNav.
> - Center position.
> - uNav is killed (sometimes).
>
> Usually when uNav has a dump, uNav stops the rutine and I can read the issue
> in its log.
> But with this kill, I can't read anything in the app log or in the system
> log either:
> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15409376/
>
> In the PC (desktop 16.04 updated) I saw a weird behavior too. Previously
> uNav gets the position because of the IP. Now I'm getting 2 types of dump
> without any position (but never killed):
>
> qml: [JS] (file:///home/costales/Desktop/unav/index.html:258) Starting
> GPS...
> [0322/100022:ERROR:oxide_access_token_store.cc(30)] Not implemented reached
> in virtual void oxide::AccessTokenStore::LoadAccessTokens(const
> LoadAccessTokensCallbackType&)
>
> or this:
>
> qml: [JS] (file:///home/costales/Desktop/unav/index.html:258) Starting
> GPS...
> *** Error in `/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlscene': corrupted
> double-linked list: 0x09d1ba58 ***
>
>
> I think this is happening when the GPS is not ready and uNav ask for it,
> then the system kills uNav (?).
>

Certainly not :) The straightforward way to debug this is to run uNav
(or its qmlscene invocation) under gdb,
and get a backtrace with symbols. That should give you an immediate
idea whether the app segfaulted or aborted.
In addition, it should give you a very good idea of where in the code
it crashes.

Cheers,

  Thomas

> A few users tried the older version 0.50 in rc-proposed and it is happening
> too.
>
> I filled this bug:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1559428
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Gareth France]

The flash is now completed and my files restored, however contacts are 
still empty and my call history worked. I wonder what's happened there?


I can confirm that at first glance my system is a lot snappier than it 
has been recently. Though there is still a massive lag while attempting 
to load contacts or calling up the dialler. Sometimes touch seems to 
fail, as in the lock screen won't swipe or I can't type in my pin or 
call up the launcher. I have to use the power button to suspend the 
phone before it will respond.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] SDK planning

[Benjamin Zeller]

Hi Omer,

if you are implementing your network handling code in C++ anyway then 
threads
are very rarely needed as long as you implement it asynchonously. You 
should

never block the main thread, ever.

However when you decide you want to do that inside a thread, checkout 
the QRunnable[1] and
QThreadPool[2] classes. Using NetworkManger in another thread should be 
straightforward.


When you need to transfer something between threads use signals and 
slots as they

are threadsafe by default [3].

[1] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qrunnable.html
[2] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qthreadpool.html
[3] 
http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/threads-qobject.html#signals-and-slots-across-threads


On 03/22/2016 09:42 PM, Omer Akram wrote:

Hi Zsombor,

While implementing network operations I went with the 
QNetworkAccessManager as I was doing other stuff in c++ as well, but 
will take a note about WorkerScripts.


Thanks

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Zsombor Egri 
mailto:zsombor.e...@canonical.com>> wrote:


On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Omer Akram mailto:om2...@ubuntu.com>> wrote:

Android provides AsyncTask[1] to do exactly that. So basically
it provides a few override methods

You have the WorkerScripts [1] doing multithreading in your QML.
See an example [2] how it works.

[1] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-workerscript.html
[2] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtquick-threading-example.html






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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, March 22, 2016 a las 09:06:33PM +0100, Hannes Schnaitter 
escribió:

> Hi,
> if you have adb installed (comes with phablet-tools) then you can do
> something like
> 
> $ adb pull /home/phablet/.config config

Looks like

$ scp -rp phablet@ip-addr:.config config

Both systems, the phone and your PC, are normal Linux systems... for
what we need a tool AndroidDebugBridge if we have SSH?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] SDK planning

[Omer Akram]

Hi Zsombor,

While implementing network operations I went with the QNetworkAccessManager
as I was doing other stuff in c++ as well, but will take a note about
WorkerScripts.

Thanks

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Zsombor Egri 
wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Omer Akram  wrote:
>
>> Android provides AsyncTask[1] to do exactly that. So basically it
>> provides a few override methods
>>
>> You have the WorkerScripts [1] doing multithreading in your QML. See an
> example [2] how it works.
>
> [1] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-workerscript.html
> [2] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtquick-threading-example.html
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] SDK planning

[Omer Akram]

Thanks Mike,

QNetworkAccessManager did the trick and it really is convenient.

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Michael Terry 
wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 6:25 AM, Omer Akram  wrote:
>
>> Perhaps we could provide some sophisticated API for the developers so
>> that they don't really have to handle threading directly, atleast for
>> simpler operations. (If there already is please enlighten me).
>>
>
> For network access, there is QNetworkAccessManager [1], which makes async
> requests on its own internal thread and signals the main thread when it's
> done.
>
> [1] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qnetworkaccessmanager.html
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Hannes Schnaitter]

Hi,
if you have adb installed (comes with phablet-tools) then you can do
something like

$ adb pull /home/phablet/.config config

and all files will be copied into the new 'config' folder.
At least that works for me.


hannes


Am 22.03.2016 um 20:48 schrieb Gareth France:
> It is now working, however this seems a lot of faff to me for doing
> something so simple. Let's hope it improves with time. I'm now more or
> less ready to flash. Fingers crossed.
>


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] uNav is killed by the system when it asks for geolocation (rc-proposed)

[Marco Graziotti]

Same problem for me on Meizu MX4, OTA 9.1.
When i'm asking for geolocation uNav is killed. I have to open again 
uNav and it works.


I will subscribe bug 1559428 



Thank you



Il 22/03/2016 20:21, Mitchell Reese ha scritto:

Getting this with stable ota 9.

M

On 23 March 2016 5:43:35 AM LHDT, Costales  wrote:

Hi!

Testers in rc-proposed are reporting this issue (this is not
happen in the current stable):

- Open uNav.
- Center position.
- uNav is killed (sometimes).

Usually when uNav has a dump, uNav stops the rutine and I can read
the issue in its log.
But with this kill, I can't read anything in the app log or in the
system log either:
http://paste.ubuntu.com/15409376/

In the PC (desktop 16.04 updated) I saw a weird behavior too.
Previously uNav gets the position because of the IP. Now I'm
getting 2 types of dump without any position (but never killed):

qml: [JS] (file:///home/costales/Desktop/unav/index.html:258)
Starting GPS...
[0322/100022:ERROR:oxide_access_token_store.cc
(30)] Not implemented reached in virtual void
oxide::AccessTokenStore::LoadAccessTokens(const
LoadAccessTokensCallbackType&)

or this:

qml: [JS] (file:///home/costales/Desktop/unav/index.html:258)
Starting GPS...
*** Error in `/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlscene': corrupted
double-linked list: 0x09d1ba58 ***


I think this is happening when the GPS is not ready and uNav ask
for it, then the system kills uNav (?).

A few users tried the older version 0.50 in rc-proposed and it is
happening too.

I filled this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1559428

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Gareth France]

On 22/03/16 19:40, Nathan Haines wrote:

On 03/22/2016 12:35 PM, Gareth France wrote:

On 22/03/16 19:29, Neil McPhail wrote:

You had mentioned you could access you phone by SSH. I didn't realise
you could do that over USB, beyond running phablet-shell. Have a look
at
https://gurucubano.gitbooks.io/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/content/en/chapter1.html 


for how to enable for wifi. But if you have found a way to access over
USB, you could use that, I'm sure.

NMP

I'm still stuck trying to get this key onto my phone. I've tried
emailing it to myself but neither gmail nor Dekko seem to have an option
to save an attachment.



Your best bet, really, is to use the terminal to move your backup 
files to ~/Documents, and then just drag and drop them out from there.


I've got the file on there now but the damn phone won't let me move it! 
I'll figure it.



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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Gareth France]

On 22/03/16 19:46, Matthias Apitz wrote:

Dekko can save attachments to ~phablet/Documents; just say you want it
to open with doc viewer and it will save it there with some name like

~phablet/Documents/dekko-attachment-gi5011-..

make somehow sure, that neither the transport nor Dekko is mangling the
key and move/rename it to the correct place as described in the above
mentioned booklet;
It is now working, however this seems a lot of faff to me for doing 
something so simple. Let's hope it improves with time. I'm now more or 
less ready to flash. Fingers crossed.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, March 22, 2016 a las 07:35:50PM +, Gareth France escribió:

> On 22/03/16 19:29, Neil McPhail wrote:
> > You had mentioned you could access you phone by SSH. I didn't realise 
> > you could do that over USB, beyond running phablet-shell. Have a look 
> > at 
> > https://gurucubano.gitbooks.io/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/content/en/chapter1.html
> >  
> > for how to enable for wifi. But if you have found a way to access over 
> > USB, you could use that, I'm sure.
> >
> > NMP 
> I'm still stuck trying to get this key onto my phone. I've tried 
> emailing it to myself but neither gmail nor Dekko seem to have an option 
> to save an attachment.

Dekko can save attachments to ~phablet/Documents; just say you want it
to open with doc viewer and it will save it there with some name like

~phablet/Documents/dekko-attachment-gi5011-..

make somehow sure, that neither the transport nor Dekko is mangling the
key and move/rename it to the correct place as described in the above
mentioned booklet;

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Nathan Haines]

On 03/22/2016 12:35 PM, Gareth France wrote:

On 22/03/16 19:29, Neil McPhail wrote:

You had mentioned you could access you phone by SSH. I didn't realise
you could do that over USB, beyond running phablet-shell. Have a look
at
https://gurucubano.gitbooks.io/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/content/en/chapter1.html
for how to enable for wifi. But if you have found a way to access over
USB, you could use that, I'm sure.

NMP

I'm still stuck trying to get this key onto my phone. I've tried
emailing it to myself but neither gmail nor Dekko seem to have an option
to save an attachment.



Your best bet, really, is to use the terminal to move your backup files 
to ~/Documents, and then just drag and drop them out from there.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Gareth France]

On 22/03/16 19:29, Neil McPhail wrote:
You had mentioned you could access you phone by SSH. I didn't realise 
you could do that over USB, beyond running phablet-shell. Have a look 
at 
https://gurucubano.gitbooks.io/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/content/en/chapter1.html 
for how to enable for wifi. But if you have found a way to access over 
USB, you could use that, I'm sure.


NMP 
I'm still stuck trying to get this key onto my phone. I've tried 
emailing it to myself but neither gmail nor Dekko seem to have an option 
to save an attachment.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Gareth France]

On 22/03/16 19:29, Neil McPhail wrote:

On 22/03/16 19:23, Gareth France wrote:

On 22/03/16 19:20, Neil McPhail wrote:
If you go in to your system settings, click "wifi" then press the 
little arrow next to your access point name, it will show your IP 
address.


BTW, you'll also need to make sure you log in as your phone user, so 
the correct syntax for my device just now would be 
"ssh://phablet@192.168.0.4"
You didn't mention I needed wifi on to do it. I was trying to use 
usb. It now says I do not have permission to access.


You had mentioned you could access you phone by SSH. I didn't realise 
you could do that over USB, beyond running phablet-shell. Have a look 
at 
https://gurucubano.gitbooks.io/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/content/en/chapter1.html 
for how to enable for wifi. But if you have found a way to access over 
USB, you could use that, I'm sure.


NMP

The SDK allows you to access through a terminal window, but not the root 
directory.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Neil McPhail]

On 22/03/16 19:23, Gareth France wrote:

On 22/03/16 19:20, Neil McPhail wrote:
If you go in to your system settings, click "wifi" then press the 
little arrow next to your access point name, it will show your IP 
address.


BTW, you'll also need to make sure you log in as your phone user, so 
the correct syntax for my device just now would be 
"ssh://phablet@192.168.0.4"
You didn't mention I needed wifi on to do it. I was trying to use usb. 
It now says I do not have permission to access.


You had mentioned you could access you phone by SSH. I didn't realise 
you could do that over USB, beyond running phablet-shell. Have a look at 
https://gurucubano.gitbooks.io/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/content/en/chapter1.html 
for how to enable for wifi. But if you have found a way to access over 
USB, you could use that, I'm sure.


NMP

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Gareth France]

On 22/03/16 19:20, Neil McPhail wrote:
If you go in to your system settings, click "wifi" then press the 
little arrow next to your access point name, it will show your IP 
address.


BTW, you'll also need to make sure you log in as your phone user, so 
the correct syntax for my device just now would be 
"ssh://phablet@192.168.0.4"
You didn't mention I needed wifi on to do it. I was trying to use usb. 
It now says I do not have permission to access.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] uNav is killed by the system when it asks for geolocation (rc-proposed)

[Mitchell Reese]

Getting this with stable ota 9.

M

On 23 March 2016 5:43:35 AM LHDT, Costales  wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Testers in rc-proposed are reporting this issue (this is not happen in
>the
>current stable):
>
>- Open uNav.
>- Center position.
>- uNav is killed (sometimes).
>
>Usually when uNav has a dump, uNav stops the rutine and I can read the
>issue in its log.
>But with this kill, I can't read anything in the app log or in the
>system
>log either:
>http://paste.ubuntu.com/15409376/
>
>In the PC (desktop 16.04 updated) I saw a weird behavior too.
>Previously
>uNav gets the position because of the IP. Now I'm getting 2 types of
>dump
>without any position (but never killed):
>
>qml: [JS] (file:///home/costales/Desktop/unav/index.html:258) Starting
>GPS...
>[0322/100022:ERROR:oxide_access_token_store.cc(30)] Not implemented
>reached
>in virtual void oxide::AccessTokenStore::LoadAccessTokens(const
>LoadAccessTokensCallbackType&)
>
>or this:
>
>qml: [JS] (file:///home/costales/Desktop/unav/index.html:258) Starting
>GPS...
>*** Error in `/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlscene': corrupted
>double-linked list: 0x09d1ba58 ***
>
>
>I think this is happening when the GPS is not ready and uNav ask for
>it,
>then the system kills uNav (?).
>
>A few users tried the older version 0.50 in rc-proposed and it is
>happening
>too.
>
>I filled this bug:
>https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1559428
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Neil McPhail]

On 22/03/16 18:50, Gareth France wrote:

On 22/03/16 18:47, Neil McPhail wrote:


On 22/03/16 18:43, Gareth France wrote:
I'm about to  try reflashing my phone and in another thread was 
advise of what to back up. However now I've come to do it I've 
realised connecting my phone to my laptop gives me Documents, 
Downloads, Music etc with no way to get to the root directory. 
Accessing via SSH does but I have no idea how to copy off the device 
with this.


So how exactly do I connect via cable to the root directory and say 
copy x off phone into y on laptop?


Cheers

Open Nautilus, press "Ctrl-L", type "ssh://your.phone.ip.address" 
into the box. Drag and drop. Should work OK.


NMP


Great, but how do I know the phone's IP?

If you go in to your system settings, click "wifi" then press the little 
arrow next to your access point name, it will show your IP address.


BTW, you'll also need to make sure you log in as your phone user, so the 
correct syntax for my device just now would be "ssh://phablet@192.168.0.4"


NMP

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Royden Yates]

On Tuesday, 22 March 2016 19:50:36 CET, Gareth France 
 wrote:

On 22/03/16 18:47, Neil McPhail wrote:


On 22/03/16 18:43, Gareth France wrote:
I'm about to  try reflashing my phone and in another thread was 
advise of what to back up. However now I've come to do it I've 
realised connecting my phone to my laptop gives me Documents, 
Downloads, Music etc with no way to get to the root directory. 
Accessing via SSH does but I have no idea how to copy off the device 
with this.


So how exactly do I connect via cable to the root directory and say 
copy x off phone into y on laptop?


Cheers

Open Nautilus, press "Ctrl-L", type "ssh://your.phone.ip.address" into 
the box. Drag and drop. Should work OK.


NMP


Great, but how do I know the phone's IP?


Hi,

Install net-info. Or in terminal 'ifconfig.

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[Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Gareth France]

I'm about to  try reflashing my phone and in another thread was advise 
of what to back up. However now I've come to do it I've realised 
connecting my phone to my laptop gives me Documents, Downloads, Music 
etc with no way to get to the root directory. Accessing via SSH does but 
I have no idea how to copy off the device with this.


So how exactly do I connect via cable to the root directory and say copy 
x off phone into y on laptop?


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Neil McPhail]

On 22/03/16 18:43, Gareth France wrote:
I'm about to  try reflashing my phone and in another thread was advise 
of what to back up. However now I've come to do it I've realised 
connecting my phone to my laptop gives me Documents, Downloads, Music 
etc with no way to get to the root directory. Accessing via SSH does 
but I have no idea how to copy off the device with this.


So how exactly do I connect via cable to the root directory and say 
copy x off phone into y on laptop?


Cheers

Open Nautilus, press "Ctrl-L", type "ssh://your.phone.ip.address" into 
the box. Drag and drop. Should work OK.


NMP

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to backup

[Gareth France]

On 22/03/16 18:47, Neil McPhail wrote:


On 22/03/16 18:43, Gareth France wrote:
I'm about to  try reflashing my phone and in another thread was 
advise of what to back up. However now I've come to do it I've 
realised connecting my phone to my laptop gives me Documents, 
Downloads, Music etc with no way to get to the root directory. 
Accessing via SSH does but I have no idea how to copy off the device 
with this.


So how exactly do I connect via cable to the root directory and say 
copy x off phone into y on laptop?


Cheers

Open Nautilus, press "Ctrl-L", type "ssh://your.phone.ip.address" into 
the box. Drag and drop. Should work OK.


NMP


Great, but how do I know the phone's IP?

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[Ubuntu-phone] uNav is killed by the system when it asks for geolocation (rc-proposed)

[Costales]

Hi!

Testers in rc-proposed are reporting this issue (this is not happen in the
current stable):

- Open uNav.
- Center position.
- uNav is killed (sometimes).

Usually when uNav has a dump, uNav stops the rutine and I can read the
issue in its log.
But with this kill, I can't read anything in the app log or in the system
log either:
http://paste.ubuntu.com/15409376/

In the PC (desktop 16.04 updated) I saw a weird behavior too. Previously
uNav gets the position because of the IP. Now I'm getting 2 types of dump
without any position (but never killed):

qml: [JS] (file:///home/costales/Desktop/unav/index.html:258) Starting
GPS...
[0322/100022:ERROR:oxide_access_token_store.cc(30)] Not implemented reached
in virtual void oxide::AccessTokenStore::LoadAccessTokens(const
LoadAccessTokensCallbackType&)

or this:

qml: [JS] (file:///home/costales/Desktop/unav/index.html:258) Starting
GPS...
*** Error in `/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlscene': corrupted
double-linked list: 0x09d1ba58 ***


I think this is happening when the GPS is not ready and uNav ask for it,
then the system kills uNav (?).

A few users tried the older version 0.50 in rc-proposed and it is happening
too.

I filled this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1559428

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WG: WG: Installing Dekko fails always

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, March 22, 2016 a las 06:08:05PM +, 
cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de escribió:

> To the OP: Where do you see exactly this information about 3.0 GB of
> free space?
> --> I looked in the smartphone itself under 'system settings' and 'about this 
> phone' and 'space', like you described down here...
> 

Btw: Do you have any additional SD card inserted? If you do, remove it
and check the space again.

> Are you able to look into your phone with SSH or ADB and provide the exact 
> details?

is SSH or ADB a program to install? Do I need the mode for advanced users? Or 
is it it enough to connect the ubuntuphone to the computer via USB (I can't 
find sth)? If it has sth to do with 'terminal' -> I can't install it too.

You need a Linux or any other UNIX PC (both bring SSH clients) or a
Windows PC and the free software PuTTY; the rest is described in my booklet:

https://gurucubano.gitbooks.io/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/content/en//chapter1.html

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WG: WG: Installing Dekko fails always

[cewe2005-newsletter]

  Von: Matthias Apitz 
 An: Michael Zanetti  
CC: cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de; "ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net" 

 Gesendet: 9:22 Dienstag, 22.März 2016
 Betreff: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WG: WG: Installing Dekko fails always
   
El día Tuesday, March 22, 2016 a las 09:09:13AM +0100, Michael Zanetti escribió:

> 
> 
> On 21.03.2016 20:36, cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de wrote:

> > My system setting says that there is 3,0 GB of free space...  Dekko
> > needs 25,4 MiB... So that is enough, or not?
> 
> Hmm, 3 GB should be enough indeed. Then I'm not sure what the issue
> might be. I usually am running out of space when installations fail in
> such a way so I thought that's worth checking.

To the OP: Where do you see exactly this information about 3.0 GB of
free space?
--> I looked in the smartphone itself under 'system settings' and 'about this 
phone' and 'space', like you described down here...

When I look in my BQ E4.5 (OTA 9.1) into "About this phone", it says at
the moment "952,4 MB free"; but this seems to be some wild
guessing/calculating all free spaces, because the concrete situation is
other:

phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ df -kh
Filesystem                                  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev                                        479M  4.0K  479M  1% /dev
tmpfs                                        97M  360K  96M  1% /run
/dev/mmcblk0p7                              4.4G  3.6G  680M  85% /userdata
/dev/mmcblk0p6                              2.0G  1.6G  369M  81% /
/dev/loop0                                  141M  139M  1.8M  99% 
/android/system
none                                        4.0K    0  4.0K  0% /android
tmpfs                                        481M  4.0K  481M  1% /etc/fstab
/dev/disk/by-path/platform-mtk-msdc.0-part5  689M  17M  638M  3% /android/cache
none                                        4.0K    0  4.0K  0% /sys/fs/cgroup
tmpfs                                        481M  44K  481M  1% /tmp
none                                        5.0M    0  5.0M  0% /run/lock
none                                        481M  132K  481M  1% /run/shm
cgmfs                                        100K    0  100K  0% 
/run/cgmanager/fs
none                                        100M    0  100M  0% /run/user
tmpfs                                        481M    0  481M  0% /media
tmpfs                                        481M  8.0K  481M  1% /var/lib/sudo
tmpfs                                        97M  48K  97M  1% /run/user/32011
tmpfs                                        97M    0  97M  0% /run/user/0

i.e. I only have below /userdata (and this is what matters) only 680 MB free.

Are you able to look into your phone with SSH or ADB and provide the exact 
details?
-->is SSH or ADB a program to install? Do I need the mode for advanced users? 
Or is it it enough to connect the ubuntuphone to the computer via USB (I can't 
find sth)? If it has sth to do with 'terminal' -> I can't install it too.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WG: WG: Installing Dekko fails always

[cewe2005-newsletter]

Hello Michael,thanks for your answers, i thought i had done some stupid 
things... 

So because of the 3GB of free space: Yesterday I did some uninstalling of apps, 
because I thought it could be true... and i did cancel a lot of fotos... BUT 
the 3 GB of free space didn`t change... Do you think this is normal? 
Also there were listed a lot of apps and programs, and I am sure in this list 
occure some, which I uninstalled yesterday or some time ago, because I don't 
need them... Is this how it should be?


  Von: Michael Zanetti 
 An: cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de; "ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net" 
 
 Gesendet: 9:09 Dienstag, 22.März 2016
 Betreff: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WG: WG: Installing Dekko fails always
   


On 21.03.2016 20:36, cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de wrote:
> Hello Micheal,
> I think I don't understand, what you mean, sorry...
> As you can see, if you scroll down, I send a question, somebody answered
> me (Rodney), I answered again, and then a person (simplehuman) wrote me,
> that my last answer was delivered in spam folder. And that I should
> please resend the message. That I did.
> 
> So what did I do wrong?

I just tried to say that if a message ends up in a spam folder for
someone, resending the same mail again is not likely to help. It will
most likely end up in the spam folder again for that user, while all the
others get the mail twice. Anyways... no big problem.

> 
> And what did you mean with '/I reported a bug that the error message is
> not good enough but I can't
> find it any more right now.'/? I did not get that message...

At some point I reported a bug that the error messages on scope
installations are not good enough. I wanted to check the status of it,
but I can't find that bug report any more.

> 
> My system setting says that there is 3,0 GB of free space...  Dekko
> needs 25,4 MiB... So that is enough, or not?

Hmm, 3 GB should be enough indeed. Then I'm not sure what the issue
might be. I usually am running out of space when installations fail in
such a way so I thought that's worth checking.

> 
> Thanks for your reply!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *Von:* Michael Zanetti 
> *An:* ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
> *Gesendet:* 16:31 Montag, 21.März 2016
> *Betreff:* Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WG: WG: Installing Dekko fails always
> 
> FWIW, I did get your previous mail. But even if it would end up in some
> people's spam folder, resending the same mail will probably not help.
> Also you did get a reply to your previous mail, didn't you?
> 
> In any case, my guess would be that you are running out of space. I
> reported a bug that the error message is not good enough but I can't
> find it any more right now.
> 
> Please check in system-settings how much free space you have left.
> 
> On 21.03.2016 16:14, cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de
>  wrote:
>> ... next try...
>>
>>
>>
>> - Weitergeleitete Message -
>> *Von:* Simplehuman  >
>> *An:* cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de 
>> *Gesendet:* 9:53 Montag, 21.März 2016
>> *Betreff:* Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WG: Installing Dekko fails always
>>
>> Your mail has got in to Gmail spam folder. So probably most people in
>> the list will not get it. Maybe you want to resend it. Or use another
>> mailbox
>>
>> 20.03.2016 22:53, cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de
> 
>>  > пишет:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> it happens after reaching the 100% and a little time of progressing...
>>> Sorry, but I can't answer the other questions because I don't know how
>>> to make that. I'm just a 'normal' user, who likes the 'open source
>>> thing' and don't know how to check
>>> '$HOME/.cache/ubuntu-download-manager/ director for an error log'...
>>> sorry :-(
>>>
>>> Maybe you can guide me through these things?
>>>
>>> Thanks anyway for your answer!
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> *Von:* Rodney Dawes  >
>>> >
>>> *An:* cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de 
>>>  >;
>>> "ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
> "
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>> *Gesendet:* 23:48 Samstag, 19.März 2016
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Installing Dekko fails always
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Does the error happen after the progress bar reaches 100%, or does it
>>> happen immediately when starting the download? Can you check in the
>>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Clear webapp cache

[Ted Gould]

On Tue, 2016-03-22 at 09:53 -0400, Alexandre Abreu wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ferdinand Holzner 
> gmail.com> wrote:
> > is it possible to clear the webapp cache, if something goes wrong?
> > 
> > Sometimes i have trouble with the twitter webapp. It crashes and i
> > think the only way to resolve this, is to clear the cache.
> As Olivier said it is not possible and not in the works at the moment
> to have
> an option to clear those,
> 
> On an other level, webapps at an individual level can be setup to
> erase their own cache
> upon reinstall or uninstall but it is not the case for twitter,
> 
> One thing though is that it could be beneficial to indeed have per
> webapp settings (a la webbrowser-app),
> that allow this, I'll make sure to talk to design about this and
> follow up on that,
I think that it probably makes more sense to have this at the system
settings level than being webapp specific. All apps have caches that
perhaps, in trying to fix the app, one would want to clear. They also
have data/config that we should probably also expose a way to clear.
I'd go further and say that if an app crashes, we might even suggest
those things to a user as a way to get it working again. For sure, no
app should crash, but that doesn't mean we can't try and be as helpful
as possible when it does happen.
Ted

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Clear webapp cache

[Alexandre Abreu]

Hi,

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Ferdinand Holzner <
ferdinandholz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> is it possible to clear the webapp cache, if something goes wrong?
>
> Sometimes i have trouble with the twitter webapp. It crashes and i think
> the only way to resolve this, is to clear the cache.
>
>
As Olivier said it is not possible and not in the works at the moment to
have
an option to clear those,

On an other level, webapps at an individual level can be setup to erase
their own cache
upon reinstall or uninstall but it is not the case for twitter,

One thing though is that it could be beneficial to indeed have per webapp
settings (a la webbrowser-app),
that allow this, I'll make sure to talk to design about this and follow up
on that,

Cheers
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] E5 OOB exerience

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

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Michi Henning wrote on 21/03/16 05:49:
> ...
> 
> On my first attempt to set up Wifi access, I selected my network, 
> tapped “Show password”. Then, every time I hit a key on the OSK, I
>  ended up with three or four random characters. It was impossible 
> to enter the password. I put the phone down for a while. Returned 
> to it (screen had locked itself in the mean time), and tried
> again, this time without “Show password”. On this second attempt,
> the keyboard worked as it should.

“single tap causes many letters sometimes”


> After setup (I allowed location data), the phone correctly got my 
> location (well, within 10 km or so—there is no SIM in the phone). 
> However, it still set my time zone to UTC+0, even though it should 
> be UTC+10.

“time & date menu should have option to probe for location via GPS”


> The today scope showed me the weather in Brisbane (well, near 
> there), using Fahrenheit units. Here in Australia, we use Celsius 
> but neither Today scope nor Weather scope allow me to change
> units. After changing the language to English (Australia), I get
> Celsius. However, I prefer to use US English for spelling and the
> like. Mashing language and units together in this way is fine for
> setting defaults, but not if there is no way to change one without
> also changing the other.
> 
> ...

“Can't change locale settings (e.g. language, 12/24-hour time, date
format) independently” 

Michi Henning wrote on 21/03/16 07:46:
> ...
> 
> Now the settings up shows me “Previous Networks” and “Connect to 
> hidden network…”. (My network is not hidden.) When I tap on
> “Previous networks”, I get a completely blank page. (Why does it
> invite my to look at previous networks when there aren’t any?)

I have a checklist for designing things, which includes this:

For every list:

6.  What should happen if it has zero items? (Should there be
placeholder text or imagery?)


This “Previous networks” problem, while minor, was a case of me
failing to follow my own checklist. I did not consider the case where
there are no previous networks. Reported.


> No wifi networks are shown at all now, even though there are
> several around.
> 
> Pulling down on the network indicator has the same problems. It 
> doesn’t offer me any networks I could connect to.

This suggests a problem with Network Manager.

Michi Henning wrote on 21/03/16 07:28:
> 
> To the customer, it doesn’t matter how hard people are working, or 
> how many people Canonical employs for this. To the customer, only
> one thing matters: whether the thing works adequately or not.

Exactly right. It doesn’t matter how many people are working on it.
And it doesn’t matter how quickly it’s improving. What matters is
whether, right now, it works.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Clear webapp cache

[Olivier Tilloy]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Ferdinand Holzner
 wrote:
> I guess due to security reasons it's not possible to create an app for this
> purpose? Would have been a nice practice project for me. :D

Indeed not, Ubuntu Touch’s security model means that an app cannot
access other apps’ data (including cache).

You might want to look into the OpenStore though, it allows publishing
apps with special permissions, for advanced users (see
http://notyetthere.org/openstore-tweakgeek-and-more/).

Alternatively, it might be a good idea to expose a way to do that from
the system settings app (under About>Storage I guess), I don’t know if
such a feature is planned or in the works, but if it is I’m sure your
help would be very appreciated. Take a look at
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings if you’re interested in
contributing to the system settings app.

Cheers,

 Olivier


> Am 21.03.2016 um 15:11 schrieb Olivier Tilloy:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Ferdinand Holzner
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> is it possible to clear the webapp cache, if something goes wrong?
>>>
>>> Sometimes i have trouble with the twitter webapp. It crashes and i think
>>> the
>>> only way to resolve this, is to clear the cache.
>>
>> Not from the UI directly (that I know of), but you apps store their
>> cache data under /home/phablet/.cache/, so removing the
>> corresponding directory should do the trick.
>>
>> For twitter, the directory is:
>> /home/phablet/.cache/com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-twitter
>>
>> You can e.g. install the terminal app and run the following command:
>>
>>rm -r /home/phablet/.cache/com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-twitter
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>   Olivier
>
>

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] backup apps [was] Re: Is it time to flash my phone?

[Phil]

I knocked up a couple of very quick and dirty scripts - they are in a 
subdirectory of the home path:

fullback.sh
sudo tar cvpjf backupfull.tar.bz2 --exclude=/proc --exclude=/run 
--exclude=/var/run --exclude=/cache --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys / 
--exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/tmp --exclude=backup*.tar.bz2 
--exclude=/SWAP.swap --exclude=/data/media/*

homeback.sh
sudo tar cvpjf backuphome.tar.bz2 /home/phablet 
--exclude=/home/phablet/backup/* --exclude=Videos --exclude=Pictures

The first one does a full system backup, excluding anything you wouldn't want 
to backup.  The second backs up all the user data and app prefs, excluding the 
potentail large files in pics and vids.

It's not pretty, but it can at least give you a rough backup.


On Mon, 21/3/16, Lorn Potter  wrote:

 Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] backup apps [was] Re: Is it time to flash my phone?
 To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
 Date: Monday, 21 March, 2016, 20:33
 
 On Monday, March 21, 2016
 03:03:59 PM Olivier Tilloy wrote:
 > >
 What you want to backup:
 > > 
 > > * contacts:
 > >
 copy the folder
 /home/phablet/.local/share/evlution/addressbook/
 > > 
 > > * SMS/call
 history:
 > > you'll find that in
 /home/phablet/history-service/history.sqlite
 > > 
 > > * You want
 to check your other apps. e.g. if you are using
 Authenticator
 > > for
 two-factor-authentication you will want to copy it's
 configuration
 > > too in order to not
 lock yourself out from your accounts. App's configs
 > > are in
 /home/phablet/.config/ or
 >
 > /home/phablet/.local/share/.
 > 
 > If you want to keep
 your web browsing history, bookmarks, downloads
 > history and cookies, you’ll want to back
 up
 >
 /home/phablet/.local/share/webbrowser-app
 
 Sorry for the thread hijack,
 but there seems to be a very obvious lack of any 
 backup apps, or any way to easily backup
 data.
 
 Is anyone working on
 one or any plans for one?
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] E5 OOB exerience

[John McAleely]

On 21 March 2016 at 22:01, Michi Henning 
wrote:

> > I believe it is the expected behaviour for mobile phone OEMs to make
> phones in batches, and for those batches to be sold with the software that
> was current at the time of production. It's particularly expensive to
> re-visit a phone already made, so I believe no-one routinely updates the
> software between manufacture and the customer getting it.
> >
> > We certainly need to consider how long the OOBE lives in such a batch
> manufacturing world, and I believe you will see bugs which impact the
> experience between first boot and first OTA are given release-blocking
> status as a consequence.
>
> The first few minutes after the phone comes out of the box the most
> important minutes in the life of that phone (at least for Canonical).
>
> I realize that it’s impossible to ensure that phones have a recent image.
> But the problems I experienced apparently are unrelated to the age of the
> image. After I updated to 9.1, all the issues I saw persisted. (The one
> issue that might related to the old image was the stuck first reboot after
> the upgrade.)
>
> All this is about looking at the world from the perspective of a
> non-technical person who buys the phone and living through their
> experience. If a customer goes through the same experience as me, that’s a
> lost customer for sure. We need to evaluate and test our software from the
> perspective of a non-technical user. If we don’t, we completely miss our
> audience.
>
> If I can’t reliably connect to my wifi network OOB, that’s a killer bug.
> If I can’t transfer my music collection, that’s another killer bug.
>

I entirely agree with all of that. My agenda was to make it clear that
'fixing it in a recent OTA' doesn't help as much as some members of this
list might wish, due to the nature of the manufacturing process.

J
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WG: WG: Installing Dekko fails always

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, March 22, 2016 a las 09:09:13AM +0100, Michael Zanetti escribió:

> 
> 
> On 21.03.2016 20:36, cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de wrote:

> > My system setting says that there is 3,0 GB of free space...  Dekko
> > needs 25,4 MiB... So that is enough, or not?
> 
> Hmm, 3 GB should be enough indeed. Then I'm not sure what the issue
> might be. I usually am running out of space when installations fail in
> such a way so I thought that's worth checking.

To the OP: Where do you see exactly this information about 3.0 GB of
free space?

When I look in my BQ E4.5 (OTA 9.1) into "About this phone", it says at
the moment "952,4 MB free"; but this seems to be some wild
guessing/calculating all free spaces, because the concrete situation is
other:

phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ df -kh
Filesystem   Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev 479M  4.0K  479M   1% /dev
tmpfs 97M  360K   96M   1% /run
/dev/mmcblk0p7   4.4G  3.6G  680M  85% /userdata
/dev/mmcblk0p6   2.0G  1.6G  369M  81% /
/dev/loop0   141M  139M  1.8M  99% 
/android/system
none 4.0K 0  4.0K   0% /android
tmpfs481M  4.0K  481M   1% /etc/fstab
/dev/disk/by-path/platform-mtk-msdc.0-part5  689M   17M  638M   3% 
/android/cache
none 4.0K 0  4.0K   0% 
/sys/fs/cgroup
tmpfs481M   44K  481M   1% /tmp
none 5.0M 0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
none 481M  132K  481M   1% /run/shm
cgmfs100K 0  100K   0% 
/run/cgmanager/fs
none 100M 0  100M   0% /run/user
tmpfs481M 0  481M   0% /media
tmpfs481M  8.0K  481M   1% /var/lib/sudo
tmpfs 97M   48K   97M   1% 
/run/user/32011
tmpfs 97M 0   97M   0% /run/user/0

i.e. I only have below /userdata (and this is what matters) only 680 MB free.

Are you able to look into your phone with SSH or ADB and provide the exact 
details?

matthias



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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WG: WG: Installing Dekko fails always

[Simplehuman]

22.03.2016 10:09, Michael Zanetti пишет:
I just tried to say that if a message ends up in a spam folder for 
someone, resending the same mail again is not likely to help. It will 
most likely end up in the spam folder again for that user, while all 
the others get the mail twice. Anyways... no big problem.
Nope, I was the person who notified about spam folder. After old message 
was resent it didn't got to my spam folder again.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WG: WG: Installing Dekko fails always

[Michael Zanetti]

On 21.03.2016 20:36, cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de wrote:
> Hello Micheal,
> I think I don't understand, what you mean, sorry...
> As you can see, if you scroll down, I send a question, somebody answered
> me (Rodney), I answered again, and then a person (simplehuman) wrote me,
> that my last answer was delivered in spam folder. And that I should
> please resend the message. That I did.
> 
> So what did I do wrong?

I just tried to say that if a message ends up in a spam folder for
someone, resending the same mail again is not likely to help. It will
most likely end up in the spam folder again for that user, while all the
others get the mail twice. Anyways... no big problem.

> 
> And what did you mean with '/I reported a bug that the error message is
> not good enough but I can't
> find it any more right now.'/? I did not get that message...

At some point I reported a bug that the error messages on scope
installations are not good enough. I wanted to check the status of it,
but I can't find that bug report any more.

> 
> My system setting says that there is 3,0 GB of free space...  Dekko
> needs 25,4 MiB... So that is enough, or not?

Hmm, 3 GB should be enough indeed. Then I'm not sure what the issue
might be. I usually am running out of space when installations fail in
such a way so I thought that's worth checking.

> 
> Thanks for your reply!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *Von:* Michael Zanetti 
> *An:* ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
> *Gesendet:* 16:31 Montag, 21.März 2016
> *Betreff:* Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WG: WG: Installing Dekko fails always
> 
> FWIW, I did get your previous mail. But even if it would end up in some
> people's spam folder, resending the same mail will probably not help.
> Also you did get a reply to your previous mail, didn't you?
> 
> In any case, my guess would be that you are running out of space. I
> reported a bug that the error message is not good enough but I can't
> find it any more right now.
> 
> Please check in system-settings how much free space you have left.
> 
> On 21.03.2016 16:14, cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de
>  wrote:
>> ... next try...
>>
>>
>>
>> - Weitergeleitete Message -
>> *Von:* Simplehuman  >
>> *An:* cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de 
>> *Gesendet:* 9:53 Montag, 21.März 2016
>> *Betreff:* Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WG: Installing Dekko fails always
>>
>> Your mail has got in to Gmail spam folder. So probably most people in
>> the list will not get it. Maybe you want to resend it. Or use another
>> mailbox
>>
>> 20.03.2016 22:53, cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de
> 
>>  > пишет:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> it happens after reaching the 100% and a little time of progressing...
>>> Sorry, but I can't answer the other questions because I don't know how
>>> to make that. I'm just a 'normal' user, who likes the 'open source
>>> thing' and don't know how to check
>>> '$HOME/.cache/ubuntu-download-manager/ director for an error log'...
>>> sorry :-(
>>>
>>> Maybe you can guide me through these things?
>>>
>>> Thanks anyway for your answer!
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> *Von:* Rodney Dawes  >
>>> >
>>> *An:* cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de 
>>>  >;
>>> "ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
> "
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>> *Gesendet:* 23:48 Samstag, 19.März 2016
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Installing Dekko fails always
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Does the error happen after the progress bar reaches 100%, or does it
>>> happen immediately when starting the download? Can you check in the
>>> $HOME/.cache/ubuntu-download-manager/ director for an error log, and
>>> find the error in that log?
>>>
>>> Also, can you include the output of "system-image-cli -i" if you can
>>> run it from under adb if you can't use the Terminal app?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 2016-03-19 at 20:49 +,
>>>  >cewe2005-newslet...@yahoo.de
> 
>>>  > wrote:
>>> > Hello there,
>>> > after updating a few apps of my ubuntu phone aquaris 4.5 (ubuntu
>>> > version 15.04) Dekko didn't work anymore, it only showed an white
>>> > screen.