Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A week using both Android and Ubuntu on BQ

[Gareth France]

On 22/06/16 21:10, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:



W dniu środa, 22 czerwca 2016 > napisał(a):
 > On 22/06/16 20:24, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
 >>
 >> Unfortunately, osmscout isn't maintained anymore. It sad, because it
 >> could be much better than univ (offline maps and routing, streets name
 >> rotating with map). Maybe someone want to fix GUI and random crashes it
 >> this app?
 >
 > Really? How come it's been abandoned so soon??
 >
You can look at https://github.com/fransschreuder/OSMScout-ubuntu
Last changes half year ago...


Very sad. I wish I had the skills to be able to take over. However it 
all baffles me right now.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] UT BQ Aquaris E5 to Japan

[Marius Gripsgård]

Hi,

I checked on http://willmyphonework.net and it says only some 3g networks
will work in Japan. (900MHz, 2100MHz)

Best regards,
Marius
On Jun 22, 2016 10:07 PM, "Marcos Alonso"  wrote:

> Hi guys.
>
> In a couple of weeks I will go to Japan.
>
> Does any of you know if the bq Aquaris E5 (ubuntu edition, of course) will
> be usable in both, phone calls and data?
>
> I worry to conclude based on Google that I can use it and, for my lack of
> knowledge, to be wrong and get incommunicated! Then I prefer to ask to the
> experts!
>
> Sorry if is not the rigth place to ask...
>
> Thanks
> Marcos.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A week using both Android and Ubuntu on BQ

[Krzysztof Tataradziński]

W dniu środa, 22 czerwca 2016  napisał(a):
> On 22/06/16 20:24, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately, osmscout isn't maintained anymore. It sad, because it
>> could be much better than univ (offline maps and routing, streets name
>> rotating with map). Maybe someone want to fix GUI and random crashes it
>> this app?
>
> Really? How come it's been abandoned so soon??
>
You can look at https://github.com/fransschreuder/OSMScout-ubuntu
Last changes half year ago...
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[Ubuntu-phone] UT BQ Aquaris E5 to Japan

[Marcos Alonso]

Hi guys.

In a couple of weeks I will go to Japan.

Does any of you know if the bq Aquaris E5 (ubuntu edition, of course) will
be usable in both, phone calls and data?

I worry to conclude based on Google that I can use it and, for my lack of
knowledge, to be wrong and get incommunicated! Then I prefer to ask to the
experts!

Sorry if is not the rigth place to ask...

Thanks
Marcos.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A week using both Android and Ubuntu on BQ

[gareth . france]

On 22/06/16 20:24, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:

Unfortunately, osmscout isn't maintained anymore. It sad, because it
could be much better than univ (offline maps and routing, streets name
rotating with map). Maybe someone want to fix GUI and random crashes it
this app?


Really? How come it's been abandoned so soon??

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Reinstall ubuntu on Meizu pro 5 ubuntu edition

[Rodney Dawes]

Hi,


You need to follow the process described on the wiki[1] and use the
recovery image provided there as well, for your device. Something like:

ubuntu-device-flash touch --recovery-image recovery-turbo.img

If you have to flash from the bootloader, you will need --bootstrap as
well, which will erase all user data on the phone (pictures, settings,
etc…).

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Working_with_ubuntu-device-flash


On Wed, 2016-06-22 at 11:20 +0200, Alexandre Payet wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is there a step by step documentation to resinstall ubuntu on Meizu
> Pro5 Ubuntu edition in case of breaking os ? 
> 
> I can't find this on wiki.ubuntu.com (only the procedure for device
> coming from android like nexus 4)
> 
> I would like to test some things on the device but after knowing if
> it's easy to reinstall the os (like on nexus 4 for example).
> 
> These are some incertitudes points : 
> Is the bootloader unlocked ? 
> If no, is it possible to flash UT from the original recovery using --
> recovery option + recovery-custom.img ?
> Is it necessary to flash a flym-os version and then flash ubuntu back
> ? (like I can see on this google+ post)
> 
> Alexandre,
> 
> 
> 
> Bien cordialement,
> Alexandre Payet
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Music app refuses to start

[Sigvard Lyth]

Hi Alexander.

Are you using a file manager app to look for them? Because files beginning
with a . are hidden. So you need to turn that on to see them. I can't find
a way to do that right now. :-(

But use the Go to function in the right upper menu, and go to
'/home/phablet/.config/' and maneuver regularly from there.

Good luck!

Den ons. 22. jun. 2016, 15.47 skrev Alexander :

> The directories you mentioned do not exist on my phone?!? I uninstalled
> the app and installed it again. Same issue and the directories still don't
> exist. Perhaps somehow they went away and the app does not check on first
> run because it comes installed as default?
>
> How can I manually create those directories and put into them what the app
> expects to be starting? Can somebody with a Aquaris 5 just send me the
> contents of those two directories from his phone so i can see what happens?
> Seems the way forward or are there other ideas?
>
> Cheers Alexander
>
>
> On 22.06.2016 14:06, Andrew Hayzen wrote:
>
> Hi Alexander,
>
> Firstly I'm sorry to hear that you are having this bad experience and hope
> we can resolve the issue.
>
> The locations that the music app stores configuration files are as follows:
> ~/.config/com.ubuntu.music/  (for general settings)
> ~/.local/share/com.ubuntu.music/   (for databases of your playlists)
>
> This issue could be due to a stale lock file bug [0], I would be
> interested to know if there are any files ending .lock in those directories
> (if there are try deleting just the .lock files and relaunching the app).
>
> Otherwise try deleting all the files in the directories to see if the app
> launches correctly (in this case it might be useful to take a copy of the
> files so we can debug later).
>
> Let me know if you need additional help removing the relevant files.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew
>
> 0 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1576989
>
> On 22 June 2016 at 12:26, Alexander  wrote:
>
>> Hello folks!
>>
>> The Music App refuses to start past the load screen and just shuts down.
>> Aquaris E5, OTA 11.
>>
>> I would like to try and delete all its settings and files and have it
>> re-initialise to see if it helps, but I can't seem to find all the files.
>>
>> Can somebody please point me in the right direction?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alexander
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A week using both Android and Ubuntu on BQ

[Krzysztof Tataradziński]

W dniu środa, 22 czerwca 2016  napisał(a):
> I have now had the time to spend a little time using both my E4.5 and my
girlfriend's new Android equivalent. I thought I would bring up a couple of
differences that spring to mind.
>
> Mainly mobile internet. It crawls, it is patchy, it is virtually unusable
on my e4.5. I put this down to my network and never thought anything of it
until I realized the android version doesn't suffer like this. Is there
anything currently affecting 3g/2g access in touch?
>
> Also satnav, possibly because of the previous issue I'm finding the
default satnav refuses to accept a route, it sits there for a while and
then says it can't plot the route. Try it a few times and it will work. It
will track you on the map but it will never get as far as giving you
directions. Currently using the satnav is a frustrating dance of load, set
route, close, open, set route, reboot, repeat until it works.
>
> OsmScout simply crashes at random. Of course on android I can simply
download Waze. It seems that either there is something wrong with my sim
card, my replacement phone or with touch.
Unfortunately, osmscout isn't maintained anymore. It sad, because it could
be much better than univ (offline maps and routing, streets name rotating
with map). Maybe someone want to fix GUI and random crashes it this app?

>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Music app refuses to start

[Alexander]

The directories you mentioned do not exist on my phone?!? I uninstalled 
the app and installed it again. Same issue and the directories still 
don't exist. Perhaps somehow they went away and the app does not check 
on first run because it comes installed as default?


How can I manually create those directories and put into them what the 
app expects to be starting? Can somebody with a Aquaris 5 just send me 
the contents of those two directories from his phone so i can see what 
happens? Seems the way forward or are there other ideas?


Cheers Alexander

On 22.06.2016 14:06, Andrew Hayzen wrote:

Hi Alexander,

Firstly I'm sorry to hear that you are having this bad experience and 
hope we can resolve the issue.


The locations that the music app stores configuration files are as 
follows:

~/.config/com.ubuntu.music/  (for general settings)
~/.local/share/com.ubuntu.music/   (for databases of your playlists)

This issue could be due to a stale lock file bug [0], I would be 
interested to know if there are any files ending .lock in those 
directories (if there are try deleting just the .lock files and 
relaunching the app).


Otherwise try deleting all the files in the directories to see if the 
app launches correctly (in this case it might be useful to take a copy 
of the files so we can debug later).


Let me know if you need additional help removing the relevant files.

Thanks,

Andrew

0 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1576989

On 22 June 2016 at 12:26, Alexander > wrote:


Hello folks!

The Music App refuses to start past the load screen and just shuts
down. Aquaris E5, OTA 11.

I would like to try and delete all its settings and files and have
it re-initialise to see if it helps, but I can't seem to find all
the files.

Can somebody please point me in the right direction?

Cheers,

Alexander

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Music app refuses to start

[Wayne Ward]

Try open store 
Then tweak geek 
Lets you clear all cache or settings on any app! Very handy ;)

Amongst other things...

Wayne 
On Wednesday, 22 June 2016 12:26:40 BST,lexander  
wrote:

Hello folks!

The Music App refuses to start past the load screen and just shuts down. 
Aquaris E5, OTA 11.


I would like to try and delete all its settings and files and have it 
re-initialise to see if it helps, but I can't seem to find all the files.


Can somebody please point me in the right direction?

Cheers,

Alexander





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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Music app refuses to start

[Andrew Hayzen]

Hi Alexander,

Firstly I'm sorry to hear that you are having this bad experience and hope
we can resolve the issue.

The locations that the music app stores configuration files are as follows:
~/.config/com.ubuntu.music/  (for general settings)
~/.local/share/com.ubuntu.music/   (for databases of your playlists)

This issue could be due to a stale lock file bug [0], I would be interested
to know if there are any files ending .lock in those directories (if there
are try deleting just the .lock files and relaunching the app).

Otherwise try deleting all the files in the directories to see if the app
launches correctly (in this case it might be useful to take a copy of the
files so we can debug later).

Let me know if you need additional help removing the relevant files.

Thanks,

Andrew

0 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1576989

On 22 June 2016 at 12:26, Alexander  wrote:

> Hello folks!
>
> The Music App refuses to start past the load screen and just shuts down.
> Aquaris E5, OTA 11.
>
> I would like to try and delete all its settings and files and have it
> re-initialise to see if it helps, but I can't seem to find all the files.
>
> Can somebody please point me in the right direction?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alexander
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[Ubuntu-phone] Music app refuses to start

[Alexander]

Hello folks!

The Music App refuses to start past the load screen and just shuts down. 
Aquaris E5, OTA 11.


I would like to try and delete all its settings and files and have it 
re-initialise to see if it helps, but I can't seem to find all the files.


Can somebody please point me in the right direction?

Cheers,

Alexander

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Terminal sickness ....

[linuxgehtned]

Have you tried to remove your terminal app configuration? Worked for me 
when my special key panel was away:


mv /home/phablet/.config/com.ubuntu.terminal/com.ubuntu.terminal.conf 
/home/phablet/.config/com.ubuntu.terminal/com.ubuntu.terminal.conf-backup






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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] General performance

[Krzysztof Tataradziński]

2016-06-22 11:53 GMT+02:00 Sam Bull :
> On Wed, 2016-06-22 at 11:27 +0200, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
>> Thanks Michael for your answer. As far as I know, Android is some
>> kind of open source project, yes? So is it not that simple to take
>> their piece of code responsible for optimization, adjust it to UT and
>> done?
>
> Android and Ubuntu Touch are not the same code, there is little
> relation between the code on Android and Ubuntu, so there is no chance
> you can simply take the 'piece of code responsible for optimization'.
>
> Furthermore, optimisation is not a 'piece of code' but a process of
> profiling your code to find out what parts are performing poorly
> (called bottlenecks) and then trying to rework that code to perform
> faster. It is a gradual process that is highly specific to each
> project. Definitely not some kind of component that can simply be
> copied from another project.
>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/159509
>
> Oliver just posted a link for an existing bug for this one, so I've
> marked as duplicate. Unless you think they are different?

No, seems to be the same. Thanks!

Best regards,
Krzysztof Tataradziński

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ridiculous system ubuntu touch

[miguel pires]

I really don't understand way are you complaining. You can use Android,
IOS, Windows phone, etc. So WTF?! What have you done? Have you step in and
help the developers?


2016-06-22 10:29 GMT+01:00 francisco mulas caracuel :

> Nexus 4 camera takes forever to open.
> What are you doing ? Nothing .
> Aethercast ? The same.
> And you intend ubuntu for all? That makes me laugh .
> It seems that the development of this so depends on what 4 guys they please
> And because of these , the system does not advance.
> And You wanted crowfunding for a phone ?
> Luckily , that did not go ahead !!
> In this step , you need a mobile designed by NASA , so this shit you work
> that is not up to it.
> We have taken the hair for years
>
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] General performance

[Krzysztof Tataradziński]

Thanks Michael for your answer. As far as I know, Android is some kind
of open source project, yes? So is it not that simple to take their
piece of code responsible for optimization, adjust it to UT and done?
;)

I've reported two bugs:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1595099
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1595102

if there is a need, I can record some wideo to show how it (not) works.

Best regards,
Krzysztof Tataradziński

2016-06-22 11:06 GMT+02:00 Michael Zanetti :
> Most of them are really happening because android is some 10 years ahead
> in optimizing things. If you compare Ubuntu now and 3 years ago, you'll
> notice a considerable difference already. And we keep on improving
> things. But especially when it comes to performance tuning, it's not
> like you change one line of code and suddenly everything will be fast.
> It takes time.
>
> That said, some if the issues you are reporting are new to me. For
> instance I can't confirm a few seconds freeze when switching apps. You
> probably should report bugs on Launchpad for those issue with *very*
> detailed steps how to reproduce them.
>
> Br,
> Michael
>
> On 22.06.2016 10:42, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I don't want to start any Android vs Ubuntu war, just to ask
>> something. I spent some time with the first one (flashed from UT) in
>> my MX4. Comparing few things:
>> - starting apps are faster, usually immediately (comparing to UT, when
>> even simple calculator starts few seconds);
>> - killing apps open in background also instant (while in UT, in
>> example when I 'kill' unav, I'm getting 1-2 sec freeze);
>> - switching between apps in A. is like previous - can't notice any
>> lag/freeze. In UT try to switch between unav and Cut the rope - few
>> seconds freeze.
>> - in UT there are many frame per seconds drops while
>> scrolling/changing scopes/etc.: is there a problem with phone GPU (bad
>> drivers)?
>>
>> I understand that Android and UT are different systems, but is there
>> any simple answer for below:
>> Why with that high specs, UT phone is really slow?
>> Is there because of some other memory management or processor usage?
>> Or in Android there are some exclusive adjustments/fixes for each
>> devices separately?
>> Or UT don't use 100% capabilities of the device (no drivers)?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> http://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>
>
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[Ubuntu-phone] Reinstall ubuntu on Meizu pro 5 ubuntu edition

[Alexandre Payet]

Hi,

Is there a step by step documentation to resinstall ubuntu on Meizu Pro5
Ubuntu edition in case of breaking os ?

I can't find this on wiki.ubuntu.com (only the procedure for device coming
from android like nexus 4)

I would like to test some things on the device but after knowing if it's
easy to reinstall the os (like on nexus 4 for example).

These are some incertitudes points :
Is the bootloader unlocked ?
If no, is it possible to flash UT from the original recovery using
--recovery option + recovery-custom.img ?
Is it necessary to flash a flym-os version and then flash ubuntu back ?
(like I can see on this google+ post
)

Alexandre,




*Bien cordialement,*

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] General performance

[Oliver Grawert]

hi,
Am Mittwoch, den 22.06.2016, 11:06 +0200 schrieb Michael Zanetti:
> That said, some if the issues you are reporting are new to me. For
> instance I can't confirm a few seconds freeze when switching apps. You
> probably should report bugs on Launchpad for those issue with *very*
> detailed steps how to reproduce them.
> 
well ...
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1480654

ciao
oli


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] General performance

[Michael Zanetti]

Most of them are really happening because android is some 10 years ahead
in optimizing things. If you compare Ubuntu now and 3 years ago, you'll
notice a considerable difference already. And we keep on improving
things. But especially when it comes to performance tuning, it's not
like you change one line of code and suddenly everything will be fast.
It takes time.

That said, some if the issues you are reporting are new to me. For
instance I can't confirm a few seconds freeze when switching apps. You
probably should report bugs on Launchpad for those issue with *very*
detailed steps how to reproduce them.

Br,
Michael

On 22.06.2016 10:42, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I don't want to start any Android vs Ubuntu war, just to ask
> something. I spent some time with the first one (flashed from UT) in
> my MX4. Comparing few things:
> - starting apps are faster, usually immediately (comparing to UT, when
> even simple calculator starts few seconds);
> - killing apps open in background also instant (while in UT, in
> example when I 'kill' unav, I'm getting 1-2 sec freeze);
> - switching between apps in A. is like previous - can't notice any
> lag/freeze. In UT try to switch between unav and Cut the rope - few
> seconds freeze.
> - in UT there are many frame per seconds drops while
> scrolling/changing scopes/etc.: is there a problem with phone GPU (bad
> drivers)?
> 
> I understand that Android and UT are different systems, but is there
> any simple answer for below:
> Why with that high specs, UT phone is really slow?
> Is there because of some other memory management or processor usage?
> Or in Android there are some exclusive adjustments/fixes for each
> devices separately?
> Or UT don't use 100% capabilities of the device (no drivers)?
> 
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof Tataradziński
> http://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
> 



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