Re: Ubuntu-quality Digest, Vol 67, Issue 34

2013-05-23 Thread chris hermansen
Hah! I bet I am oldest at 57 B-)
On May 23, 2013 8:10 AM, Asher Schwartz becauseas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi! Im 15

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 Hey Samuel,

 Welcome to the club! You're not the only young person around: I'm 17.

 John Kim

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 in fact you're not even the youngest


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  Hey Samuel,
 
  Welcome to the club! You're not the only young person around: I'm 17.
 
  John Kim
 
  On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Samuel Gabbay 
 samuelgabb...@hotmail.com
  wrote:
 
  hi im samuel gabbay im 15 years  old and i really want to test software
  and beta builds for the team. im currently learnign html but i would
 like
  to write bug reports and get involved in the team. :)
 
 
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Re: Ubuntu-quality Digest, Vol 67, Issue 34

2013-05-23 Thread Peter Pfeiffer
Not by a long shot!  I'm 68  - and maybe there are even older folks who 
prefer to stay anonymous;-) regarding their age.


IMHO age is not indicative of experience or willingness to achieve.

Before I retired I worked on an internet security team with folks much 
younger than me ( my 2 children were a decade older than the youngest ) 
We ALL benefited from both age and cultural diversity of the team in 
which we all were positive contributors!


Let's all encourage ALL our contributors and have fun while both 
learning and teaching!


Regards,
Pete

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Hah! I bet I am oldest at 57 B-)

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Hi! Im 15

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Hey Samuel,

Welcome to the club! You're not the only young person around:
I'm 17.

John Kim

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in fact you're not even the youngest


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:39 AM, John Kim
johnkim.ubu...@gmail.com mailto:johnkim.ubu...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hey Samuel,

 Welcome to the club! You're not the only young person
around: I'm 17.

 John Kim

 On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Samuel Gabbay
samuelgabb...@hotmail.com mailto:samuelgabb...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 hi im samuel gabbay im 15 years  old and i really want to
test software
 and beta builds for the team. im currently learnign html but
i would like
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Re: Ubuntu-quality Digest, Vol 67, Issue 34

2013-05-23 Thread Colin Law
On 23 May 2013 16:36, Peter Pfeiffer pfeif...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not by a long shot!  I'm 68  - and maybe there are even older folks who
 prefer to stay anonymous ;-)  regarding their age.

 IMHO age is not indicative of experience or willingness to achieve.

I hope that age is indicative of experience, otherwise there is not
much point to having lived until a good age.  What the young lack in
experience they can make up for in enthusiasm and, above all, energy.


 Before I retired I worked on an internet security team with folks much
 younger than me ( my 2 children were a decade older than the youngest ) We
 ALL benefited from both age and cultural diversity of the team in which we
 all were positive contributors!

As you say, a mix is what is required.

 Let's all encourage ALL our contributors and have fun while both learning
 and teaching!

Definitely.

Colin

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Re: Ubuntu-quality Digest, Vol 67, Issue 34

2013-05-23 Thread Asher Schwartz
Well, I know that it is easy to use it. I only used Ubuntu when my computer 
crapped out on me once and I needed to get my files off it. I use it to recover 
files that I can only get back with another operating system. I also know a lot 
about networking

Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On 23 May 2013 16:36, Peter Pfeiffer pfeif...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not by a long shot!  I'm 68  - and maybe there are even older folks who
 prefer to stay anonymous ;-)  regarding their age.
 
 IMHO age is not indicative of experience or willingness to achieve.
 
 I hope that age is indicative of experience, otherwise there is not
 much point to having lived until a good age.  What the young lack in
 experience they can make up for in enthusiasm and, above all, energy.
 
 
 Before I retired I worked on an internet security team with folks much
 younger than me ( my 2 children were a decade older than the youngest ) We
 ALL benefited from both age and cultural diversity of the team in which we
 all were positive contributors!
 
 As you say, a mix is what is required.
 
 Let's all encourage ALL our contributors and have fun while both learning
 and teaching!
 
 Definitely.
 
 Colin

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Re: Hackathons for Saucy

2013-05-23 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
To simplify scheduling for hackfests, classroom sessions, and Ubuntu open
week, can we have a wiki page that lists* ALL* *ubuntu QA* activities? We
have a fixed schedule for release schedule and cadence testing.

The email notifications are great, but It helps to stay ahead of upcoming
events and to prepare when necessary. Plus, it would be helpful to add
these new schedules to the *QATeam* wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam.
If this is possible?

Istimsak Abdulbasir

change is good


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 okies :)

 I've just checked, meetingbot is still in #ubuntu-quality-chat :)

 Regards,

 Phill.


 On 22 May 2013 16:43, Nicholas Skaggs nicholas.ska...@canonical.comwrote:

  I prefer to keep things like this in the channel -- I like activity.
 It's over a long period of time so it's not like 15 people will suddenly be
 swarming the channel, while others are attempting to do something else.
 Besides, if your hanging out with us, you can be hacking :-p

 That said, I'm happy to change it if it becomes an issue.

 Nicholas


 On 05/21/2013 07:05 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

 Hi Boss,

  Please check if the ubuntu-classroom area is available, it means that
 others can discuss other QA / testing things during the hackfests and we
 have set of logs for people to follow that are purely dedicated to those
 areas. If the area is not, then I strongly suggest using the secondary
 ubuntu-testing room and checking that the meetingology bot is present to
 take notes so that a full log is available.

  Regards,

  Phill.

 On 21 May 2013 19:58, Nicholas Skaggs nicholas.ska...@canonical.comwrote:

  Ok, it's time to schedule our hackathons for this cycle. (For those
 not familar with the idea of a hackfest, have a look here:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hackfest)

 I'd like to springboard the autopilot work ASAP, so let's plan one for
 this month. We had three last cycle, or about one hackathon every two
 months. I think we'll end up with a few more than that this cycle ;-) It's
 much easier to host and run them earlier in the cycle, so I would suggest
 the following date/times:

 May 23rd from 1200 UTC to 2000 UTC
 June 4th from 1200 UTC to 2000 UTC
 June 13th from 1200 UTC to 2000 UTC

 We can plan more fests after -- but let's start with this. Cadence
 testing should kick off sometime after the last session listed, so it would
 be good to get as much done in advance of that. Does the date and times
 work well for everyone? If not, we can change around one of the June dates
 listed, but I would really like to get the first one in this week. I know
 everyone is ready to dive in again (me too!)!

 With that in mind, is there a volunteer who would be willing to put
 together a wiki page for the May 23rd date, ala,
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hackfest/20130319? I think we can modify
 the table and drop the 'tester' column and instead instruct people to
 simply assign themselves the bug. The big things for the first hackfest is
 autopilot 1.3 stuff and doing manual testcase review and marking off some
 of the needed cases :-)

 Once the page is ready, and your feedback is in, we'll do an official
 annoucement for the first hackfest. Thanks everyone!

 Nicholas

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Re: Hackathons for Saucy

2013-05-23 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
Another thing what is fginther?


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir
saqman2...@gmail.comwrote:

 To simplify scheduling for hackfests, classroom sessions, and Ubuntu open
 week, can we have a wiki page that lists* ALL* *ubuntu QA* activities? We
 have a fixed schedule for release schedule and cadence testing.

 The email notifications are great, but It helps to stay ahead of upcoming
 events and to prepare when necessary. Plus, it would be helpful to add
 these new schedules to the *QATeam* wiki page
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam. If this is possible?

 Istimsak Abdulbasir

 change is good


 On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.comwrote:

 okies :)

 I've just checked, meetingbot is still in #ubuntu-quality-chat :)

 Regards,

 Phill.


 On 22 May 2013 16:43, Nicholas Skaggs nicholas.ska...@canonical.comwrote:

  I prefer to keep things like this in the channel -- I like activity.
 It's over a long period of time so it's not like 15 people will suddenly be
 swarming the channel, while others are attempting to do something else.
 Besides, if your hanging out with us, you can be hacking :-p

 That said, I'm happy to change it if it becomes an issue.

 Nicholas


 On 05/21/2013 07:05 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

 Hi Boss,

  Please check if the ubuntu-classroom area is available, it means that
 others can discuss other QA / testing things during the hackfests and we
 have set of logs for people to follow that are purely dedicated to those
 areas. If the area is not, then I strongly suggest using the secondary
 ubuntu-testing room and checking that the meetingology bot is present to
 take notes so that a full log is available.

  Regards,

  Phill.

 On 21 May 2013 19:58, Nicholas Skaggs nicholas.ska...@canonical.comwrote:

  Ok, it's time to schedule our hackathons for this cycle. (For those
 not familar with the idea of a hackfest, have a look here:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hackfest)

 I'd like to springboard the autopilot work ASAP, so let's plan one for
 this month. We had three last cycle, or about one hackathon every two
 months. I think we'll end up with a few more than that this cycle ;-) It's
 much easier to host and run them earlier in the cycle, so I would suggest
 the following date/times:

 May 23rd from 1200 UTC to 2000 UTC
 June 4th from 1200 UTC to 2000 UTC
 June 13th from 1200 UTC to 2000 UTC

 We can plan more fests after -- but let's start with this. Cadence
 testing should kick off sometime after the last session listed, so it would
 be good to get as much done in advance of that. Does the date and times
 work well for everyone? If not, we can change around one of the June dates
 listed, but I would really like to get the first one in this week. I know
 everyone is ready to dive in again (me too!)!

 With that in mind, is there a volunteer who would be willing to put
 together a wiki page for the May 23rd date, ala,
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hackfest/20130319? I think we can
 modify the table and drop the 'tester' column and instead instruct people
 to simply assign themselves the bug. The big things for the first hackfest
 is autopilot 1.3 stuff and doing manual testcase review and marking off
 some of the needed cases :-)

 Once the page is ready, and your feedback is in, we'll do an official
 annoucement for the first hackfest. Thanks everyone!

 Nicholas

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what is the channel for the event

2013-05-23 Thread Samuel Gabbay

what is the channel for the event 
From: nosk...@ubuntu.com
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 06:42:31 +1000
Subject: Re: Hi
To: samuelgabb...@hotmail.com

I'm 14, and so is howard

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Samuel Gabbay samuelgabb...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


Really?!

Envoyé de mon iPod
Le 2013-05-22 à 09:43 PM, Jackson Doak nosk...@ubuntu.com a écrit :



in fact you're not even the youngest

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:39 AM, John Kim johnkim.ubu...@gmail.com wrote:






Hey Samuel, 
Welcome to the club! You're not the only young person around: I'm 17. 
John Kim
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wrote:








hi im samuel gabbay im 15 years  old and i really want to test software and 
beta builds for the team. im currently learnign html but i would like to write 
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Re: what is the channel for the event

2013-05-23 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
#ubuntu-quality on freenode.net.

Istimsak Abdulbasir


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Samuel Gabbay samuelgabb...@hotmail.comwrote:


 what is the channel for the event
 --
 From: nosk...@ubuntu.com
 Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 06:42:31 +1000
 Subject: Re: Hi
 To: samuelgabb...@hotmail.com

 I'm 14, and so is howard


 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Samuel Gabbay 
 samuelgabb...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Really?!

 Envoyé de mon iPod

 Le 2013-05-22 à 09:43 PM, Jackson Doak nosk...@ubuntu.com a écrit :

 in fact you're not even the youngest


 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:39 AM, John Kim johnkim.ubu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Samuel,

 Welcome to the club! You're not the only young person around: I'm 17.

 John Kim

 On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Samuel Gabbay samuelgabb...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 hi im samuel gabbay im 15 years  old and i really want to test software
 and beta builds for the team. im currently learnign html but i would like
 to write bug reports and get involved in the team. :)


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Re: what is the channel for the event

2013-05-23 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
Head over to this link Ubuntu Hackfesthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hackfest


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir
saqman2...@gmail.comwrote:

 You can join easily with the GTK xchat client.

 Eat well :-)

 Istimsak Abdulbasir

 change is good


 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Samuel Gabbay 
 samuelgabb...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Il go when i come back from a dinner

 Envoyé de mon iPod

 Le 2013-05-23 à 08:20 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir saqman2...@gmail.com a
 écrit :

 #ubuntu-quality on freenode.net.

 Istimsak Abdulbasir


 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Samuel Gabbay samuelgabb...@hotmail.com
  wrote:


 what is the channel for the event
 --
 From: nosk...@ubuntu.com
 Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 06:42:31 +1000
 Subject: Re: Hi
 To: samuelgabb...@hotmail.com

 I'm 14, and so is howard


 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Samuel Gabbay 
 samuelgabb...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Really?!

 Envoyé de mon iPod

 Le 2013-05-22 à 09:43 PM, Jackson Doak nosk...@ubuntu.com a écrit :

 in fact you're not even the youngest


 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:39 AM, John Kim johnkim.ubu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Samuel,

 Welcome to the club! You're not the only young person around: I'm 17.

 John Kim

 On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Samuel Gabbay 
 samuelgabb...@hotmail.com wrote:

 hi im samuel gabbay im 15 years  old and i really want to test software
 and beta builds for the team. im currently learnign html but i would like
 to write bug reports and get involved in the team. :)


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Re: Hackathons for Saucy

2013-05-23 Thread John Kim
Istimsak, 

I personally don't object to having separate wiki categories for 
schedules. Rather not compact too much information at once.


fginther is the IRC name of a person who attended today's hackfest. :-)

John

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir 
saqman2...@gmail.com wrote:
Another thing what is 
fginther?



On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir 
saqman2...@gmail.com wrote:
To simplify scheduling for hackfests, classroom sessions, and Ubuntu 
open week, can we have a wiki page that lists ALL ubuntu QA 
activities? We have a fixed schedule for release schedule and 
cadence testing. 

The email notifications are great, but It helps to stay ahead of 
upcoming events and to prepare when necessary. Plus, it would be 
helpful to add these new schedules to the QATeam wiki page 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam. If this is possible?


Istimsak Abdulbasir

change is good


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Phill Whiteside 
phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

okies :)

I've just checked, meetingbot is still in #ubuntu-quality-chat :)

Regards,

Phill.


On 22 May 2013 16:43, Nicholas Skaggs 
nicholas.ska...@canonical.com wrote:
I prefer to keep things like this in the channel -- I like 
activity. It's over a long period of time so it's not like 15 
people will suddenly be swarming the channel, while others are 
attempting to do something else. Besides, if your hanging out with 
us, you can be hacking :-p


That said, I'm happy to change it if it becomes an issue.

Nicholas


On 05/21/2013 07:05 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

Hi Boss,

Please check if the ubuntu-classroom area is available, it means 
that others can discuss other QA / testing things during the 
hackfests and we have set of logs for people to follow that are 
purely dedicated to those areas. If the area is not, then I 
strongly suggest using the secondary ubuntu-testing room and 
checking that the meetingology bot is present to take notes so 
that a full log is available.


Regards,

Phill.

On 21 May 2013 19:58, Nicholas Skaggs 
nicholas.ska...@canonical.com wrote:
Ok, it's time to schedule our hackathons for this cycle. (For 
those not familar with the idea of a hackfest, have a look here: 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hackfest)


I'd like to springboard the autopilot work ASAP, so let's plan 
one for this month. We had three last cycle, or about one 
hackathon every two months. I think we'll end up with a few more 
than that this cycle ;-) It's much easier to host and run them 
earlier in the cycle, so I would suggest the following 
date/times:


May 23rd from 1200 UTC to 2000 UTC
June 4th from 1200 UTC to 2000 UTC
June 13th from 1200 UTC to 2000 UTC

We can plan more fests after -- but let's start with this. 
Cadence testing should kick off sometime after the last session 
listed, so it would be good to get as much done in advance of 
that. Does the date and times work well for everyone? If not, we 
can change around one of the June dates listed, but I would 
really like to get the first one in this week. I know everyone 
is ready to dive in again (me too!)!


With that in mind, is there a volunteer who would be willing to 
put together a wiki page for the May 23rd date, ala, 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hackfest/20130319? I think we can 
modify the table and drop the 'tester' column and instead 
instruct people to simply assign themselves the bug. The big 
things for the first hackfest is autopilot 1.3 stuff and doing 
manual testcase review and marking off some of the needed cases 
:-)


Once the page is ready, and your feedback is in, we'll do an 
official annoucement for the first hackfest. Thanks everyone!


Nicholas

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