Re: Question

[Jackson Doak]

I'm not 100% sure, since i've never done much autopilot (i don't know
any C and barely any python)

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:05 PM, mss-devel  wrote:
> To run an autopilot test, zeitgeist must be installed on my computer? Thanks

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Re: Hello everybody!

[Jackson Doak]

Welcome.

We release next week, so ISO testing is the big thing to do now.
Since you use virtualbox, you might want to install the package
testdrive-gtk, since it acts as a "hub" for virtualbox and downloading
ISOs.
A full list of what we do is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities
It would be great if you could help with ubuntu touch autopilot tests
since you know C

Jackson

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 4:43 PM, mss-devel  wrote:
> Hi! I'm a new member of the ubuntu-quality list. I am from Argentina. I'm
> really excited for contributing with the ubuntu community. I usually like to
> test new distribution using Virtualbox. Currently, I have Xubuntu 12.04
> installed on my desktop computer.
> The Ubuntu Touch is a really important project which will mark Ubuntu's
> future. And Ubuntu desktop has had an impressive development, but there are
> some technical issues that the community hast to solve (for example, some
> Unity instability).
> I know C programming language, and I'm learning Perl.
> Well, that's all I can say. I can not wait to get involved in my first job.
> Nice to meet you!
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Hello everybody!

[mss-devel]

Hi! I'm a new member of the ubuntu-quality list. I am from Argentina. 
I'm really excited for contributing with the ubuntu community. I usually 
like to test new distribution using Virtualbox. Currently, I have 
Xubuntu 12.04 installed on my desktop computer.
The Ubuntu Touch is a really important project which will mark Ubuntu's 
future. And Ubuntu desktop has had an impressive development, but there 
are some technical issues that the community hast to solve (for example, 
some Unity instability).

I know C programming language, and I'm learning Perl.
Well, that's all I can say. I can not wait to get involved in my first job.
Nice to meet you!

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Today's Topics:

1. Oh my god (matteo sisti sette)
2. Re: Oh my god (Jackson Doak)
3. Fwd: Re: Oh my god (Matteo Sisti Sette)
4. Fwd: Re: Oh my god (Matteo Sisti Sette)
5. Re: Oh my god (Matteo Sisti Sette)


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Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 22:40:01 +0200
From: matteo sisti sette 
To: ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Oh my god
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Hi,

The Ubuntu QA team's website invites visitors to join the list and
introduce themselves, so here I am introducing myself to the list.

I am an Ubuntu user and I have been more and more frustrated by the
exponentially growing unusability and unstability of Ubuntu throughout the
last years. But I will focus on unstability here.

Now I am astonished to see the point it has reached.
I have installed a fresh new Ubuntu 13.04 on a brand new computer.
First, the Firefox browser stopped working after updating it (simply via
apt-get) and it turned out to be because ~/.cache/mozilla somehow got the
wrong owner (root) rendering it unaccessible and preventing Firefox from
reading the user profofiles and hence to work at all.

But now, after a reboot, I find myself with an empty desktop with no Unity
launcher nor system bar. None of the workarounds described at
http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears/
  or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1212987 work.

So after delirious usability killers (I won't mention them here as I want
to focus on UNSTABILITY), after the impossibility to hibernate, after the
impossibility to suspend on low battery, after random x.org crashes started
to appear which would just suddenly log you out destroying all unsaved data
at the blinking of an eye, now we have reached the point where you may just
reboot and find yourself with a completely unusable system, roughly
equivalent to one that won't even boot. Which means you are forced to
either waste a couple of days googling for a fix, or reinstall the whole
system just until this happens again.

End of rant.
Matteo

This is all very strange.  I am running an od HP Compaq, that has had 
every issue of Ubuntu on it from 9.04 up to 13.04, and waiting for 
13.10.  I have had very few problems with my system, with the exception 
of the ones that I caused.  Could it be that you have got something 
wrong inside the machine?


Apache

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Re: Oh my god

[Matteo Sisti Sette]

Ok, so I got it fixed, and it turns out that:
- what broke everything was installing nvidia-current.
- uninstalling nvidia* didn't fix the issue (this is huge: uninstalling 
the package does not completely reverse the installation)
- I got it completely fixed by manually removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf 
(after apt-get-purging nvidia*) and rebooting. A pretty easy fix, but 
complicated as hell to figure out.



On 13/10/13 23:39, matteo sisti sette wrote:

If I understand correctly, many people in this list are developers
working in ensuring Ubuntu quality, right? So, since this issue has been
reported a lot of times and there are a few bug reports about it in
Launchpad and a few questions in askubuntu (none of the answers to
which, is working for me), and since this is a huge issue that
completely breaks an ubuntu installation to an apparently unrecoverable
point, making it a tremendous threat tu Ubuntu quality, I must deduce
that a lot of people here must either have observed and thoroughly
investigated this issue, or be doing so. So, I think there must be
somebody here who has found out some workaround for this. I supplicate
some of people to please, please share any working workaround with me.


2013/10/13 matteo sisti sette mailto:matteosistise...@gmail.com>>

Oh, given how 13.04 got screwed up in two days, which was a
supposed-to-be stable release, I don't dare to imagine how a "pretty
much ready" version will work


2013/10/13 Jackson Doak mailto:nosk...@ubuntu.com>>

That was a bit strange, but welcome to the team.
Maybe you could try installing 13.10 since it's pretty much ready.

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:40 AM, matteo sisti sette
mailto:matteosistise...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
 > Hi,
 >
 > The Ubuntu QA team's website invites visitors to join the
list and introduce
 > themselves, so here I am introducing myself to the list.
 >
 > I am an Ubuntu user and I have been more and more frustrated
by the
 > exponentially growing unusability and unstability of Ubuntu
throughout the
 > last years. But I will focus on unstability here.
 >
 > Now I am astonished to see the point it has reached.
 > I have installed a fresh new Ubuntu 13.04 on a brand new
computer.
 > First, the Firefox browser stopped working after updating it
(simply via
 > apt-get) and it turned out to be because ~/.cache/mozilla
somehow got the
 > wrong owner (root) rendering it unaccessible and preventing
Firefox from
 > reading the user profofiles and hence to work at all.
 >
 > But now, after a reboot, I find myself with an empty desktop
with no Unity
 > launcher nor system bar. None of the workarounds described at
 >

http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears/
 > or
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1212987 work.
 >
 > So after delirious usability killers (I won't mention them
here as I want to
 > focus on UNSTABILITY), after the impossibility to hibernate,
after the
 > impossibility to suspend on low battery, after random x.org
 crashes started
 > to appear which would just suddenly log you out destroying
all unsaved data
 > at the blinking of an eye, now we have reached the point
where you may just
 > reboot and find yourself with a completely unusable system,
roughly
 > equivalent to one that won't even boot. Which means you are
forced to either
 > waste a couple of days googling for a fix, or reinstall the
whole system
 > just until this happens again.
 >
 > End of rant.
 > Matteo
 >
 > --
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 > http://www.matteosistisette.com
 >
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Fwd: Re: Oh my god

[Matteo Sisti Sette]

This was intended for the list. But never mind, in the meanwhile I got 
it fixed.



 Original Message 
Subject:Re: Oh my god
Date:   Sun, 13 Oct 2013 23:39:52 +0200
From:   matteo sisti sette 
To: Jackson Doak 



If I understand correctly, many people in this list are developers
working in ensuring Ubuntu quality, right? So, since this issue has been
reported a lot of times and there are a few bug reports about it in
Launchpad and a few questions in askubuntu (none of the answers to
which, is working for me), and since this is a huge issue that
completely breaks an ubuntu installation to an apparently unrecoverable
point, making it a tremendous threat tu Ubuntu quality, I must deduce
that a lot of people here must either have observed and thoroughly
investigated this issue, or be doing so. So, I think there must be
somebody here who has found out some workaround for this. I supplicate
some of people to please, please share any working workaround with me.


2013/10/13 matteo sisti sette mailto:matteosistise...@gmail.com>>

Oh, given how 13.04 got screwed up in two days, which was a
supposed-to-be stable release, I don't dare to imagine how a "pretty
much ready" version will work


2013/10/13 Jackson Doak >


That was a bit strange, but welcome to the team.
Maybe you could try installing 13.10 since it's pretty much ready.

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:40 AM, matteo sisti sette
mailto:matteosistise...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
 > Hi,
 >
 > The Ubuntu QA team's website invites visitors to join the
list and introduce
 > themselves, so here I am introducing myself to the list.
 >
 > I am an Ubuntu user and I have been more and more frustrated
by the
 > exponentially growing unusability and unstability of Ubuntu
throughout the
 > last years. But I will focus on unstability here.
 >
 > Now I am astonished to see the point it has reached.
 > I have installed a fresh new Ubuntu 13.04 on a brand new
computer.
 > First, the Firefox browser stopped working after updating it
(simply via
 > apt-get) and it turned out to be because ~/.cache/mozilla
somehow got the
 > wrong owner (root) rendering it unaccessible and preventing
Firefox from
 > reading the user profofiles and hence to work at all.
 >
 > But now, after a reboot, I find myself with an empty desktop
with no Unity
 > launcher nor system bar. None of the workarounds described at
 >

http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears/
 > or
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1212987 work.
 >
 > So after delirious usability killers (I won't mention them
here as I want to
 > focus on UNSTABILITY), after the impossibility to hibernate,
after the
 > impossibility to suspend on low battery, after random x.org
 crashes started
 > to appear which would just suddenly log you out destroying
all unsaved data
 > at the blinking of an eye, now we have reached the point
where you may just
 > reboot and find yourself with a completely unusable system,
roughly
 > equivalent to one that won't even boot. Which means you are
forced to either
 > waste a couple of days googling for a fix, or reinstall the
whole system
 > just until this happens again.
 >
 > End of rant.
 > Matteo
 >
 > --
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 > matteosistise...@gmail.com 
 > http://www.matteosistisette.com
 >
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Fwd: Re: Oh my god

[Matteo Sisti Sette]

Ops, I intended to reply to the list


 Original Message 
Subject:Re: Oh my god
Date:   Sun, 13 Oct 2013 23:33:56 +0200
From:   matteo sisti sette 
To: Jackson Doak 



Oh, given how 13.04 got screwed up in two days, which was a
supposed-to-be stable release, I don't dare to imagine how a "pretty
much ready" version will work


2013/10/13 Jackson Doak mailto:nosk...@ubuntu.com>>

That was a bit strange, but welcome to the team.
Maybe you could try installing 13.10 since it's pretty much ready.

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:40 AM, matteo sisti sette
mailto:matteosistise...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 > Hi,
 >
 > The Ubuntu QA team's website invites visitors to join the list
and introduce
 > themselves, so here I am introducing myself to the list.
 >
 > I am an Ubuntu user and I have been more and more frustrated by the
 > exponentially growing unusability and unstability of Ubuntu
throughout the
 > last years. But I will focus on unstability here.
 >
 > Now I am astonished to see the point it has reached.
 > I have installed a fresh new Ubuntu 13.04 on a brand new computer.
 > First, the Firefox browser stopped working after updating it
(simply via
 > apt-get) and it turned out to be because ~/.cache/mozilla somehow
got the
 > wrong owner (root) rendering it unaccessible and preventing
Firefox from
 > reading the user profofiles and hence to work at all.
 >
 > But now, after a reboot, I find myself with an empty desktop with
no Unity
 > launcher nor system bar. None of the workarounds described at
 >

http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears/
 > or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1212987 
work.

 >
 > So after delirious usability killers (I won't mention them here
as I want to
 > focus on UNSTABILITY), after the impossibility to hibernate,
after the
 > impossibility to suspend on low battery, after random x.org
 crashes started
 > to appear which would just suddenly log you out destroying all
unsaved data
 > at the blinking of an eye, now we have reached the point where
you may just
 > reboot and find yourself with a completely unusable system, roughly
 > equivalent to one that won't even boot. Which means you are
forced to either
 > waste a couple of days googling for a fix, or reinstall the whole
system
 > just until this happens again.
 >
 > End of rant.
 > Matteo
 >
 > --
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 > http://www.matteosistisette.com
 >
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Re: Oh my god

[Jackson Doak]

That was a bit strange, but welcome to the team.
Maybe you could try installing 13.10 since it's pretty much ready.

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:40 AM, matteo sisti sette
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The Ubuntu QA team's website invites visitors to join the list and introduce
> themselves, so here I am introducing myself to the list.
>
> I am an Ubuntu user and I have been more and more frustrated by the
> exponentially growing unusability and unstability of Ubuntu throughout the
> last years. But I will focus on unstability here.
>
> Now I am astonished to see the point it has reached.
> I have installed a fresh new Ubuntu 13.04 on a brand new computer.
> First, the Firefox browser stopped working after updating it (simply via
> apt-get) and it turned out to be because ~/.cache/mozilla somehow got the
> wrong owner (root) rendering it unaccessible and preventing Firefox from
> reading the user profofiles and hence to work at all.
>
> But now, after a reboot, I find myself with an empty desktop with no Unity
> launcher nor system bar. None of the workarounds described at
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears/
> or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1212987 work.
>
> So after delirious usability killers (I won't mention them here as I want to
> focus on UNSTABILITY), after the impossibility to hibernate, after the
> impossibility to suspend on low battery, after random x.org crashes started
> to appear which would just suddenly log you out destroying all unsaved data
> at the blinking of an eye, now we have reached the point where you may just
> reboot and find yourself with a completely unusable system, roughly
> equivalent to one that won't even boot. Which means you are forced to either
> waste a couple of days googling for a fix, or reinstall the whole system
> just until this happens again.
>
> End of rant.
> Matteo
>
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Oh my god

[matteo sisti sette]

Hi,

The Ubuntu QA team's website invites visitors to join the list and
introduce themselves, so here I am introducing myself to the list.

I am an Ubuntu user and I have been more and more frustrated by the
exponentially growing unusability and unstability of Ubuntu throughout the
last years. But I will focus on unstability here.

Now I am astonished to see the point it has reached.
I have installed a fresh new Ubuntu 13.04 on a brand new computer.
First, the Firefox browser stopped working after updating it (simply via
apt-get) and it turned out to be because ~/.cache/mozilla somehow got the
wrong owner (root) rendering it unaccessible and preventing Firefox from
reading the user profofiles and hence to work at all.

But now, after a reboot, I find myself with an empty desktop with no Unity
launcher nor system bar. None of the workarounds described at
http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears/
 or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1212987 work.

So after delirious usability killers (I won't mention them here as I want
to focus on UNSTABILITY), after the impossibility to hibernate, after the
impossibility to suspend on low battery, after random x.org crashes started
to appear which would just suddenly log you out destroying all unsaved data
at the blinking of an eye, now we have reached the point where you may just
reboot and find yourself with a completely unusable system, roughly
equivalent to one that won't even boot. Which means you are forced to
either waste a couple of days googling for a fix, or reinstall the whole
system just until this happens again.

End of rant.
Matteo

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Ubuntu Studio 13.10 Release Candidate Call for Testing

[Ho Wan Chan]

Dear Ubuntu Studio developers, testers and users,

We are about to release Ubuntu Studio 13.10 on the coming Thursday.
However, we are desperately in need for testing. Please help us test
the release candidate images!

Testcases for the amd64 images are in
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds/55592/testcases,
while i386 image testcases can be found in
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds/55593/testcases.
Please also do the upgrade testcases as well, linked in
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds/55391/testcases
(for amd64) and
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds/55392/testcases
(for i386).

The latest image is available at
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current. We recommend you
to use zsync to download the image, as the images will be updated
quite frequently in the coming few days.

The changes compared to Ubuntu Studio 13.04 can be found at
http://ubuntustudio.org/2013/09/ubuntu-studio-13-10-saucy-salamander-beta-2-released/
(except for one final feature: We added Ardour 3 to the images).

You can find a detailed testing walkthrough and videos at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough.

If you have any inquiries, feel free to ask in #ubuntustudio-devel on
Freenode or mail us at ubuntu-studio-de...@lists.ubuntu.com

We appreciate your testing efforts and let's make Ubuntu Studio 13.10
an amazing release!

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
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