Re: Introduction

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Monika,

Make sure you do enjoy quality. You can do anything from manual testing to
writing automated tests to verifying bugs.

Just make sure that you ask when you don't know something.

Doing it wrongly is not a problem, as long as you know the solution:)

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
Ubuntu Member
On 2013/11/3 下午10:50, "Elfy"  wrote:

> On 03/11/13 14:31, Monika Schrenk wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I'm new to the Ubuntu Quality Team, so I want to introduce myself to all
>> of you.
>>
>> I'm Monika from Austria, 26 years old, student of computer science and
>> working at the service line of an Austrian telecommunication provider.
>>
>> I'm using Ubuntu and Arch since a few months. Before, I was using Mac
>> OSX. I want to help improving Ubuntu on Apple devices and to help to make
>> Ubuntu even better than it is already in general ;) I have no experience in
>> testing yet, but I'm willing to learn all about it and start from scratch.
>>
>> Hope to have a good cooperation with you!
>>
>> Yours, Monika
>>
>>
>>
>>  Hi Monika,
>
> Welcome to the team.
>
> Above all - when you start joining in - make sure to have fun ... if
> you're not you're doing it wrong :)
>
> Elfy
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Ubuntu Studio 13.10 Release Candidate Call for Testing

[Ho Wan Chan]

Dear Ubuntu Studio developers, testers and users,

We are about to release Ubuntu Studio 13.10 on the coming Thursday.
However, we are desperately in need for testing. Please help us test
the release candidate images!

Testcases for the amd64 images are in
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds/55592/testcases,
while i386 image testcases can be found in
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds/55593/testcases.
Please also do the upgrade testcases as well, linked in
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds/55391/testcases
(for amd64) and
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds/55392/testcases
(for i386).

The latest image is available at
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current. We recommend you
to use zsync to download the image, as the images will be updated
quite frequently in the coming few days.

The changes compared to Ubuntu Studio 13.04 can be found at
http://ubuntustudio.org/2013/09/ubuntu-studio-13-10-saucy-salamander-beta-2-released/
(except for one final feature: We added Ardour 3 to the images).

You can find a detailed testing walkthrough and videos at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough.

If you have any inquiries, feel free to ask in #ubuntustudio-devel on
Freenode or mail us at ubuntu-studio-de...@lists.ubuntu.com

We appreciate your testing efforts and let's make Ubuntu Studio 13.10
an amazing release!

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
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Ubuntu Studio 13.10 Beta 2 call for testing

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Ubuntu Studio Developers, contributors and users,

"Keep calm and test the images!" -- Ubuntu QA Team

We are now close to our second and final beta release of Ubuntu Studio
13.10 (Saucy Salamander), and we want YOU to test for us.

http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/303/builds is the place where
you follow the testcases and submit the results, simply choose "Ubuntu
Studio ", and follow the testcases. If you want a
walkthrough, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough.

There are not many changes from Beta 1 to Beta 2 (except that we fixed 4
bugs about upgrading). Changes in features can be found at
http://ubuntustudio.org/2013/09/ubuntu-studio-13-10-saucy-salamander-beta-1-released/.
So we want you to test the upgrades again, to see if there is any more
bugs. (Of course you can report bugs in images too:))

The images are always accessible at
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current.

For any inquiries, find us at ubuntu-studio-de...@lists.ubuntu.com or
contact zequence/OvenWerks/smartboyhw in #ubuntustudio-devel on Freenode.

Happy testing!

Regards,
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A bit of casual Studio testing.

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Ubuntu Studio contributors,

This is just a casual email, asking for some testing.

All of the Ubuntu Studio-specific bugs (at least of those found during Beta
1 testing) are fixed, and the wallpaper (along with icons) has been updated.

So, time to grab an image from
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current to do some testing!
Upgrade testing are especially welcomed.

Before Beta 2 testing officially starts I would rather want bugs reported
via Launchpad and through the mailing lists instead of using the ISO QA
Tracker (you can still use it, but I won't check it that often until the
official testing starts).

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
Ubuntu Studio Release Manager

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https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-Studio-devel.
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Re: Kickstarting growth for quality

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Ali,

I will send an e-mail to Kubuntu, Edubuntu and Ubuntu Studio, to tell them
about our plan to attract more testers, and see if they will join our
effort.

Technically, I *should* be responsible for attracting more testers for
Kubuntu too (since I'm a Kubuntu Member), but I'm afraid that three
flavours for me is too much a burden.

Nevertheless, Ubuntu Global Jam is coming, and it's time to write a blog
post to Planet Ubuntu to get everyone interested in helping Ubuntu (no
matter QA or other aspects).

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
Ubuntu Member


2013/9/9 Ali Linx (amjjawad) 

>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Nicholas Skaggs <
> nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:
>
>> This all sounds wonderful. I'd encourage you to not go too crazy with
>> setting up lots of infrastructure at first, and instead focus on the task
>> at hand :-) UbuntuGlobalJam is this upcoming weekend
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam, I think it's a good
>> opportunity, but you've not much time to organize.
>>
>> Nicholas
>>
>
> +1
>
> I totally agree with Nicholas :)
>
> Let's discuss our plans here on this list first and see how things will
> develop and then, setting a new area on launchpad is as easy as drinking
> water for me and won't take more than 1-2 min but let's first start
> recruiting more testers and discuss over here :)
>
> Yes, I know, I will do my best to pop up on IRC as well but give me some
> time, I am not feeling well these days and I am taking this chance to
> recharge my batteries :)
>
> At the beginning, here is my suggestion:
>
> To all those who showed a great interest of starting this project
> (recruiting more testers), please, start with your team members first to
> tell them about this plan. How? simply, send a nice informative email to
> your list regrading the plan of Ubuntu QA Team to start a project called
> "Recruiting More Testers". Why? because, most likely, you will find more
> people who might be interested to help you ;) + you need to raise awareness
> which is indeed the whole point of this project.
>
> After this email, you need to focus on the Social Networks. I have used
> this area a lot in the last two years and I have accomplished a lot. You
> can have many interested people :)
>
> Tip: in order to have successful and active Facebook/Google+ Page, you do
> need to interact with your users.
>
> That is the golden tip.
>
> How?
> Whenever someone posts, thank him/her for choosing and using the system
> and even if you don't know the answer of his/her Q, just direct them to the
> right channel where that Q belongs.
>
> Start like that and by time, you will understand what I mean :)
>
> Let me highlight something very important I have talked with Nicholas
> about at the vUDS.
> There will be so many interested people to test. However, there will be
> ONLY FEW who will actually test. More worse, those will be dedicated to
> testing regularly are even less. That is why, we have 3-5 active testers
> for some communities, such as Ubuntu Studio.
>
> Of course, there are so many reasons for that but I will avoid discussing
> that right now.
>
> As a beginning, let's communicate to each and every community about our
> need for testers and once my batteries are fully recharge, I will send you
> the "posts" or the "message" we need to use. It is important that we use
> the same message. We would be super lucky if we managed to get testers who
> can help not only with one project but more. Say, helping Xubuntu, Ubuntu
> Studio and Ubuntu GNOME.
>
> That is all for now. Let's get started and later, I will communicate more
> informations and plans :)
>
> Thank you!
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Re: Kickstarting growth for quality

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Nicholas,

If Ali would permit, I would like to co-lead the effort with Ali, since I
have the most experience of inadquate testers (I test mostly for flavours
that have a small testing team, e.g. Edubuntu and Ubuntu Studio, and these
flavours have under 3-5 active testers).

Ali doesn't have a blog of Planet Ubuntu (since he isn't a Ubuntu Member
yet), so I will help in promoting through Planet Ubuntu and through Google+.

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
Ubuntu Studio Release Manager, Ubuntu QA member
On 2013/9/7 上午4:20, "Nicholas Skaggs"  wrote:

>  As part of the last vUDS, we held a session on Quality efforts in the
> flavor world. The largest source of feedback was that more people are
> needed to help with testing. Armed with this feedback, we decided to put
> together a core group of folks who would be interested in promoting quality
> efforts across all flavors. Sound interesting?
>
> I'd like to request for volunteers who would be interested in meeting and
> brainstorming ideas to help increase our outreach as a community. This
> would be a small working group of people who are interested and can
> dedicate themselves to put some ideas into action over the last couple
> months of the cycle. An idea needs people behind it in order to succeed,
> and that's the goal of this group.
>
> That said, you don't have to join a special group to help grow our
> community! Ubuntu Global Jam is coming up and I would encourage everyone to
> participate locally or remotely with others, and to incorporate testing as
> part of there jamming. Social networks and other communities you
> participate in are also great sources to share about what's going on and
> invite others to join you in our quality efforts.
>
> Thanks everyone!
>
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Ubuntu flavours 13.10 Beta 1 upgrade testing

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Ubuntu Release Team, flavour's project leads and QA leads,

May I specifically remind you that the upgrade tests are NOT enabled for
Ubuntu 13.10 Beta 1. We at Ubuntu Studio decided to enable the upgrade
tests since we really need to try how it works for 13.04 -> 13.10. Flavours
do NOT necessarily have to enable the upgrade tests, but you might want to
enable these for good:)

Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: Ubuntu GNOME - QA Lead

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hi Jackson,

I know that. But it is ALWAYS that we tell different QA people of changes
of QA roles. For example, when Elfy became Xubuntu QA lead. I don't think
it is appropriate that testers don't know who to report to.

smartboyhe
On Jul 22, 2013 7:29 AM, "Jackson Doak"  wrote:

> Good work ali, congratulations.
>
> howard: He was trying to keep his swap secret from the lubuntu guys
> for some reason.
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Ho Wan Chan  wrote:
> > Hello Ubuntu and Lubuntu QA Teams,
> >
> > Ubuntu GNOME has finally got a QA lead. Please welcome Ali Linx
> (amjjawad)
> > as QA Lead of Ubuntu GNOME please!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
> > Ubuntu Member, Ubuntu QA Tester
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: "Tim" 
> > Date: Jul 22, 2013 5:54 AM
> > Subject: Ubuntu GNOME - QA Lead
> > To: "Ubuntu GNOME" 
> >
> > We are pleased to announce that Ali Linx (amjjawad) is joining the Ubuntu
> > GNOME team as QA Lead. Ali has been actively involved in the Lubuntu
> > team for the last 2 years, however he has now decided to move on and find
> > new challenges. Luckily for us this new direction involves helping our
> > project to progress forward.
> >
> > From here on in, Ali will be co-ordinating the testing for upcoming
> > alpha/beta releases, he will also be working to build a stronger
> community
> > around testing of ubuntu Gnome releases.
> >
> > On behalf of the Ubuntu GNOME Team,
> >
> > Tim
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Fwd: Ubuntu GNOME - QA Lead

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Ubuntu and Lubuntu QA Teams,

Ubuntu GNOME has finally got a QA lead. Please welcome Ali Linx (amjjawad)
as QA Lead of Ubuntu GNOME please!

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
Ubuntu Member, Ubuntu QA Tester
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From: "Tim" 
Date: Jul 22, 2013 5:54 AM
Subject: Ubuntu GNOME - QA Lead
To: "Ubuntu GNOME" 

We are pleased to announce that Ali Linx (amjjawad) is joining the Ubuntu
GNOME team as QA Lead. Ali has been actively involved in the Lubuntu
team for the last 2 years, however he has now decided to move on and find
new challenges. Luckily for us this new direction involves helping our
project to progress forward.

>From here on in, Ali will be co-ordinating the testing for upcoming
alpha/beta releases, he will also be working to build a stronger community
around testing of ubuntu Gnome releases.

On behalf of the Ubuntu GNOME Team,

Tim

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Re: WhoWeAre Page - Suggestion

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Ali, Phill (et. al),

Ali: Of course nothing is perfect (not prefect, BTW). I hope that the
website column won't affect you too much.

Phill: Thank you for your continuous effort of making our wiki pages better.

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
Ubuntu Member, Ubuntu QA Tester
On Jul 19, 2013 10:10 PM, "Ali Linx (amjjawad)"  wrote:

>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
>> The page has been updated to explain how to enter a WebSite.
>>
>> Here's to hoping it is enough for people to follow.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>
> Not as prefect as I expected but it seems you all insist to keep the
> website column. It is still stretch but better than before. Anything else
> can be done or that is it?
> Oh well, guess nothing is prefect :)
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Re: WhoWeAre Page - Suggestion

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hi Thomas (et. al),

Ah yeah, I know about this formatting. I think we can use it then.

smartboyhw
On Jul 19, 2013 7:11 PM, "Thomas Ward"  wrote:

> Hiya, QA team!
>
> I may not be a tester, but I watch the ubuntu-quality list almost as
> closely as I watch the bugsquad and bug control mailing lists.
>
> I noticed this email chain here, so if you don't mind, I'd like to give a
> suggestion as to a solution.
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Ho Wan Chan wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ali et. al,
>>>
>>> The first idea is great! We can get Phill on this since he is a wiki
>>> expert.
>>>
>> I think this is an issue with the way the wiki is formatted and the use
> of long links in the "Website" column.  Now, I'm not a wiki expert, but it
> looks like the whole long links, and especially the wordpress blog links,
> are causing the column to flow past the edges of the default page format.
>
> My suggestion would be to add those as [[http://webaddress.tld/|Link]]
> replacing only the webaddress.tld part, which in turn makes "Link" display
> instead of the web address, which may help to fix the
> overflow-past-the-side issue.
>
> In testing, I went in and used "Edit" / "Preview" to test this, and this
> will solve the too-wide-a-column issue, although it will not show the full
> link(s).
>
>>  For the second idea, I think we have a reason to include such things:
>>> For QA. If we included our blogs there, it means that we would use the site
>>> to promote Ubuntu QA. We can remove it of course, but these links can be
>>> great guides.
>>>
>> Regards,
>>>
>>  Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
>>> Ubuntu member, Ubuntu QA Tester
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If you check out my own Wiki Page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad
>>  You can find all my details like Blogs, etc.
>>
>> Anyway, it is just a thought from my side :)
>>
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Re: WhoWeAre Page - Suggestion

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hi Ali et. al,

The first idea is great! We can get Phill on this since he is a wiki expert.

For the second idea, I think we have a reason to include such things: For
QA. If we included our blogs there, it means that we would use the site to
promote Ubuntu QA. We can remove it of course, but these links can be great
guides.

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
Ubuntu member, Ubuntu QA Tester
On Jul 19, 2013 5:45 PM, "Ali Linx (amjjawad)"  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> May I suggest something, please?
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/WhoWeAre
>
> Can we adjust the table so that it won't stretch to the right?
>
> If I may, I would suggest to remove "Website" Column. After all, all these
> details should be on Testers' Wiki Page. I for one keep all my stuff on one
> place for easier access and more organized.
>
> Just a thought :)
>
> By the way, GREAT WORK on QA Wiki Area ;)
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Testdrive hackfest.

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello David,

Thank you for your translation!

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
On Jul 18, 2013 3:31 PM, "David Manuel Pires" 
wrote:

> Jackson and Howard,
>
> I've completed the translation of TestDrive to Portuguese -
> https://translations.launchpad.net/testdrive/trunk/+pots/testdrive
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Jackson Doak  wrote:
>
>> Great. I'll try and be on in some of howard's time, now we just need
>> someone for 1600-2000 and to work out putting this on the fridge and
>> ubuntu on air.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Ho Wan Chan 
>> wrote:
>> > Hello Jackson et. al,
>> >
>> > I can probably run it from 1200UTC to 1600UTC, but even I have to sleep
>> also
>> > by 1600UTC. Nicholas, I think you better continue...
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > smartboyhw
>> >
>> > On Jul 18, 2013 4:34 AM, "Jackson Doak"  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  It will definately be hangout and irc, maybe UbuntuOnAir as well, I
>> >> just need people to run it between 1200UTC and 2000UTC. (i need sleep)
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > Hey Jackson,
>> >> >
>> >> > Great you are having this test done in august. Allows enough time for
>> >> > everyone interested in attending to clear time from their busy
>> schedule.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am free on Sundays. Anytime will do. Hangouts or irc will do fine.
>> >> >
>> >> > Istimsak abdulbasir
>> >> >
>> >> > On Jul 17, 2013 6:00 PM, "Jackson Doak"  wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I've shortened the hackfest so it's 1100-2200UTC, but i'm only
>> >> >> available 1100-1200 and 2000-2200. Is someone going to be able to
>> >> >> adopt the remaining time?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Jackson Doak 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > ok.
>> >> >> > I'll try and finalise everything soon.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Ho Wan Chan <
>> smartbo...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> Hello Jackson et. al,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I don't think it is a good idea to wait until the Hackfest.
>> >> >> >> Translators
>> >> >> >> do
>> >> >> >> not normally subscribe to this list, and hacking on Testdrive may
>> >> >> >> not
>> >> >> >> seem
>> >> >> >> to be a good idea for them. I will send off an email tomorrow
>> >> >> >> evening
>> >> >> >> (UTC
>> >> >> >> time) to the Ubuntu and Launchpad's translation lists.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Anyways, if we are to run the Hackfest using Google+ Hangouts,
>> make
>> >> >> >> sure it
>> >> >> >> goes in the Ubuntu OnAir! course. Jackson, after you finalized
>> >> >> >> everything
>> >> >> >> please inform Jose Antonio Rey (JoseeAntonioR) so he can make
>> >> >> >> appropriate
>> >> >> >> arrangements on it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> And I am looking at Nicholas to do all the promotion for us:)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> >> Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Jul 17, 2013 8:17 AM, "Jackson Doak" 
>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> After the hackfest might be better, i want to see how much of a
>> >> >> >>> turnout we get.
>> >> >> >>> that said, i can't stop you.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Ho Wan Chan <
>> smartbo...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> > Hello Jackson et. al,
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > For the translations, should I send 

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Testdrive hackfest.

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Jackson et. al,

I can probably run it from 1200UTC to 1600UTC, but even I have to sleep
also by 1600UTC. Nicholas, I think you better continue...

Regards,
smartboyhw
On Jul 18, 2013 4:34 AM, "Jackson Doak"  wrote:

>  It will definately be hangout and irc, maybe UbuntuOnAir as well, I
> just need people to run it between 1200UTC and 2000UTC. (i need sleep)
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir
>  wrote:
> > Hey Jackson,
> >
> > Great you are having this test done in august. Allows enough time for
> > everyone interested in attending to clear time from their busy schedule.
> >
> > I am free on Sundays. Anytime will do. Hangouts or irc will do fine.
> >
> > Istimsak abdulbasir
> >
> > On Jul 17, 2013 6:00 PM, "Jackson Doak"  wrote:
> >>
> >> I've shortened the hackfest so it's 1100-2200UTC, but i'm only
> >> available 1100-1200 and 2000-2200. Is someone going to be able to
> >> adopt the remaining time?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Jackson Doak 
> wrote:
> >> > ok.
> >> > I'll try and finalise everything soon.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Ho Wan Chan 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> Hello Jackson et. al,
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't think it is a good idea to wait until the Hackfest.
> Translators
> >> >> do
> >> >> not normally subscribe to this list, and hacking on Testdrive may not
> >> >> seem
> >> >> to be a good idea for them. I will send off an email tomorrow evening
> >> >> (UTC
> >> >> time) to the Ubuntu and Launchpad's translation lists.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyways, if we are to run the Hackfest using Google+ Hangouts, make
> >> >> sure it
> >> >> goes in the Ubuntu OnAir! course. Jackson, after you finalized
> >> >> everything
> >> >> please inform Jose Antonio Rey (JoseeAntonioR) so he can make
> >> >> appropriate
> >> >> arrangements on it.
> >> >>
> >> >> And I am looking at Nicholas to do all the promotion for us:)
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
> >> >>
> >> >> On Jul 17, 2013 8:17 AM, "Jackson Doak"  wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> After the hackfest might be better, i want to see how much of a
> >> >>> turnout we get.
> >> >>> that said, i can't stop you.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Ho Wan Chan 
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > Hello Jackson et. al,
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > For the translations, should I send a call for translations in
> >> >>> > Launchpad
> >> >>> > and
> >> >>> > Ubuntu's translation list?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Regards,
> >> >>> > Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Jul 16, 2013 10:33 PM, "Jackson Doak" 
> wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> I'm thinking we do all day saturday the 9th (UTC).
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> I've made a wiki page for the event at
> >> >>> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Testdrive/Hackfest
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:30 AM, David Manuel Pires
> >> >>> >>  wrote:
> >> >>> >> > Hi guys,
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > You can count me on, except on the 24th and 25th From the 24th
> >> >>> >> > onward,
> >> >>> >> > it's
> >> >>> >> > vacation time for me.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Cheers,
> >> >>> >> > David Pires
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Jackson Doak
> >> >>> >> > 
> >> >>> >> > wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> G+ hangout's is a good idea. i'll make one that runs all day.
&

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Testdrive hackfest.

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Jackson et. al,

I don't think it is a good idea to wait until the Hackfest. Translators do
not normally subscribe to this list, and hacking on Testdrive may not seem
to be a good idea for them. I will send off an email tomorrow evening (UTC
time) to the Ubuntu and Launchpad's translation lists.

Anyways, if we are to run the Hackfest using Google+ Hangouts, make sure it
goes in the Ubuntu OnAir! course. Jackson, after you finalized everything
please inform Jose Antonio Rey (JoseeAntonioR) so he can make appropriate
arrangements on it.

And I am looking at Nicholas to do all the promotion for us:)

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
On Jul 17, 2013 8:17 AM, "Jackson Doak"  wrote:

> After the hackfest might be better, i want to see how much of a
> turnout we get.
> that said, i can't stop you.
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Ho Wan Chan  wrote:
> > Hello Jackson et. al,
> >
> > For the translations, should I send a call for translations in Launchpad
> and
> > Ubuntu's translation list?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
> >
> > On Jul 16, 2013 10:33 PM, "Jackson Doak"  wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm thinking we do all day saturday the 9th (UTC).
> >>
> >> I've made a wiki page for the event at
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Testdrive/Hackfest
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:30 AM, David Manuel Pires
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Hi guys,
> >> >
> >> > You can count me on, except on the 24th and 25th From the 24th onward,
> >> > it's
> >> > vacation time for me.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > David Pires
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Jackson Doak 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> G+ hangout's is a good idea. i'll make one that runs all day.
> >> >> I'm working on a wiki page for the hackfest, i'll link it soon.
> >> >>
> >> >> Which weekend in august does everyone want? I can get to any, with
> the
> >> >> possible exception of the 24th and 25th.
> >> >> Also, should it cross over friday night or saturday night?
> >> >>
> >> >> Howard: If you could leave the ubuntuGNOME fix for someone at the
> >> >> hackfest that would be great.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Ho Wan Chan 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Hello Ubuntu and Lubuntu QA Team,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It's great that Jackson will finally hold a Testdrive Hackfest for
> >> >> > us. I
> >> >> > got
> >> >> > my UbuntuKylin Testdrive code merged in just today, which is great.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > As for time, it will be difficult for me to join Jackson, since
> when
> >> >> > he
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > morning I am sleeping, and when we are both on IRC everyone else
> will
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > asleep!!! So probably I can't join it, sorry.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > As for the date, just pick any weekend. I don't think we should
> >> >> > actually
> >> >> > fit
> >> >> > it to Ubuntu Touch's final freeze. It will attract less
> contributors
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > don't think we can fit Ubuntu Touch images ibto Testdrive anyway.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So Jackson, just pick any date you want on August.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> > Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
> >> >> > (K)ubuntu member, Ubuntu QA Team member
> >> >> >
> >> >> > P.S. Jackson, maybe you should do the hackfest using Google+
> >> >> > Hangouts.
> >> >> > Also,
> >> >> > do you want me to do the Ubuntu GNOME flavour addition to Testdrive
> >> >> > when
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > come back or just do it yourself? Maybe you can do it yourself or
> let
> >> >> > new
> >> >> > interested contributors join in, it's just copying;) I will
> >> >> > investigate
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > adding the Netboot ISO when I come back from London on 31st July.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Jul 16, 2013 5:02 AM, "Jackson Doak" 
> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>  I will be running a hackfest for testdrive
> >> >> >> (launchpad.net/testdrive)
> >> >> >> sometime in august, ideally on a weekend. Are there any specific
> >> >> >> time
> >> >> >> people would like it to be?
> >> >> >>
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Testdrive hackfest.

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Jackson et. al,

For the translations, should I send a call for translations in Launchpad
and Ubuntu's translation list?

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
On Jul 16, 2013 10:33 PM, "Jackson Doak"  wrote:

> I'm thinking we do all day saturday the 9th (UTC).
>
> I've made a wiki page for the event at
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Testdrive/Hackfest
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:30 AM, David Manuel Pires
>  wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > You can count me on, except on the 24th and 25th From the 24th onward,
> it's
> > vacation time for me.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > David Pires
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Jackson Doak 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> G+ hangout's is a good idea. i'll make one that runs all day.
> >> I'm working on a wiki page for the hackfest, i'll link it soon.
> >>
> >> Which weekend in august does everyone want? I can get to any, with the
> >> possible exception of the 24th and 25th.
> >> Also, should it cross over friday night or saturday night?
> >>
> >> Howard: If you could leave the ubuntuGNOME fix for someone at the
> >> hackfest that would be great.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Ho Wan Chan 
> wrote:
> >> > Hello Ubuntu and Lubuntu QA Team,
> >> >
> >> > It's great that Jackson will finally hold a Testdrive Hackfest for
> us. I
> >> > got
> >> > my UbuntuKylin Testdrive code merged in just today, which is great.
> >> >
> >> > As for time, it will be difficult for me to join Jackson, since when
> he
> >> > is
> >> > morning I am sleeping, and when we are both on IRC everyone else will
> be
> >> > asleep!!! So probably I can't join it, sorry.
> >> >
> >> > As for the date, just pick any weekend. I don't think we should
> actually
> >> > fit
> >> > it to Ubuntu Touch's final freeze. It will attract less contributors
> and
> >> > I
> >> > don't think we can fit Ubuntu Touch images ibto Testdrive anyway.
> >> >
> >> > So Jackson, just pick any date you want on August.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
> >> > (K)ubuntu member, Ubuntu QA Team member
> >> >
> >> > P.S. Jackson, maybe you should do the hackfest using Google+ Hangouts.
> >> > Also,
> >> > do you want me to do the Ubuntu GNOME flavour addition to Testdrive
> when
> >> > I
> >> > come back or just do it yourself? Maybe you can do it yourself or let
> >> > new
> >> > interested contributors join in, it's just copying;) I will
> investigate
> >> > on
> >> > adding the Netboot ISO when I come back from London on 31st July.
> >> >
> >> > On Jul 16, 2013 5:02 AM, "Jackson Doak"  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>  I will be running a hackfest for testdrive (launchpad.net/testdrive
> )
> >> >> sometime in august, ideally on a weekend. Are there any specific time
> >> >> people would like it to be?
> >> >>
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Testdrive hackfest.

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Jackson et. al,

I don't think it is a good idea to have a Google+ Hangout all day long, we
don't have enough manpower to do a 24-hour marathon just on Testdrive
business (we aren't the Ubuntu Community Team, don't forget).

Regards,
smartboyhw
On Jul 16, 2013 9:47 PM, "Jackson Doak"  wrote:

> G+ hangout's is a good idea. i'll make one that runs all day.
> I'm working on a wiki page for the hackfest, i'll link it soon.
>
> Which weekend in august does everyone want? I can get to any, with the
> possible exception of the 24th and 25th.
> Also, should it cross over friday night or saturday night?
>
> Howard: If you could leave the ubuntuGNOME fix for someone at the
> hackfest that would be great.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Ho Wan Chan  wrote:
> > Hello Ubuntu and Lubuntu QA Team,
> >
> > It's great that Jackson will finally hold a Testdrive Hackfest for us. I
> got
> > my UbuntuKylin Testdrive code merged in just today, which is great.
> >
> > As for time, it will be difficult for me to join Jackson, since when he
> is
> > morning I am sleeping, and when we are both on IRC everyone else will be
> > asleep!!! So probably I can't join it, sorry.
> >
> > As for the date, just pick any weekend. I don't think we should actually
> fit
> > it to Ubuntu Touch's final freeze. It will attract less contributors and
> I
> > don't think we can fit Ubuntu Touch images ibto Testdrive anyway.
> >
> > So Jackson, just pick any date you want on August.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
> > (K)ubuntu member, Ubuntu QA Team member
> >
> > P.S. Jackson, maybe you should do the hackfest using Google+ Hangouts.
> Also,
> > do you want me to do the Ubuntu GNOME flavour addition to Testdrive when
> I
> > come back or just do it yourself? Maybe you can do it yourself or let new
> > interested contributors join in, it's just copying;) I will investigate
> on
> > adding the Netboot ISO when I come back from London on 31st July.
> >
> > On Jul 16, 2013 5:02 AM, "Jackson Doak"  wrote:
> >>
> >>  I will be running a hackfest for testdrive (launchpad.net/testdrive)
> >> sometime in august, ideally on a weekend. Are there any specific time
> >> people would like it to be?
> >>
> >> --
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Testdrive hackfest.

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Ubuntu and Lubuntu QA Team,

It's great that Jackson will finally hold a Testdrive Hackfest for us. I
got my UbuntuKylin Testdrive code merged in just today, which is great.

As for time, it will be difficult for me to join Jackson, since when he is
morning I am sleeping, and when we are both on IRC everyone else will be
asleep!!! So probably I can't join it, sorry.

As for the date, just pick any weekend. I don't think we should actually
fit it to Ubuntu Touch's final freeze. It will attract less contributors
and I don't think we can fit Ubuntu Touch images ibto Testdrive anyway.

So Jackson, just pick any date you want on August.

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
(K)ubuntu member, Ubuntu QA Team member

P.S. Jackson, maybe you should do the hackfest using Google+ Hangouts.
Also, do you want me to do the Ubuntu GNOME flavour addition to Testdrive
when I come back or just do it yourself? Maybe you can do it yourself or
let new interested contributors join in, it's just copying;) I will
investigate on adding the Netboot ISO when I come back from London on 31st
July.
On Jul 16, 2013 5:02 AM, "Jackson Doak"  wrote:

>  I will be running a hackfest for testdrive (launchpad.net/testdrive)
> sometime in august, ideally on a weekend. Are there any specific time
> people would like it to be?
>
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"Testcase pilots"

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Ubuntu Quality Team,

If you have been a member of the Ubuntu Development Team (or if you have
been subscribed to the ubuntu-devel mailing list) you will know that Ubuntu
Development has a system called "Patch pilots". Look at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/CodeReviews?action=show&redirect=PatchPilot#Patch_Pilotsfor
a better introduction.

Basically, one pilot (or two if possible) stands on guard at certain times,
and helps developers who doesn't have upload permissions to upload their
packages upon review.

This might be a good idea for our team to implement. We can have people to
get their testcases (no matter Autopliot or autopkgtest or manual) reviewed
and merged.

The "testcase pilots" should be people from the Ubuntu Testcase Admins Team
in Launchpad (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase), and maybe the
Canonical Platform QA Team members.

You might wonder how to update the topic of our IRC channel at
#ubuntu-quality and at #ubuntu-autopilot. Well, as I can see in
#ubuntu-devel, patch pilots do have a process to automatically check in
using a bot. I think if everyone agrees to this plan, we can ask the
development team on how do they implement it.

This is just a suggestion, and feedback is welcome from everyone.

Do have a think of it:)

Best wishes,
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Re: Mir instead of Xorg-server

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Istimsak,

the proprietary drivers. However Mir support should be available for them
by 14.04 LTS.

Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
(K)ubuntu member


2013/6/30 Istimsak Abdulbasir 

> Scott, when you say "there is no Mir support for non-free video drivers",
> are you referring to the drivers provided in the repos, or the proprietary
> drivers supplied by the manufacturers?
>
> Istimsak Abdulbasir
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>
>> Currently there's no Mir suport for non-free video drivers, so anyone with
>> nVidia/ATI will need to use Xorg.  Additionally, some of the other
>> flavors are
>> sticking with X for 13.10, and X from 13.10 is needed for 12.04 hardware
>> enablement updates, so it'll be maintained in any case.
>>
>> Scott K
>>
>> On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:49:29 PM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote:
>> > Thanks guys. So be default, if Mir is unsuccessful, ubunu will rollback
>> to
>> > xorg.
>> >
>> > On Jun 29, 2013 4:08 PM, "Adrian Goodyer" 
>> wrote:
>> > > A
>> > > s far as I know the graphics drivers will try and use Mir and if
>> > > unsuccessful will rollback to X.
>> > >
>> > > I would presume then, that a choice between the two would also be
>> > > available?
>> > >
>> > > Ade.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir <
>> saqman2...@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > >> Starting with 13.10, will the new xserver be Mir or will both Mir and
>> > >> xorg-server be available for saucy?
>> > >>
>> > >> Istimsak abdulbasir
>> > >>
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Re: Classroom Sessions begin today!

[Ho Wan Chan]

Add one hour atop of it, Nick got UTC confused with BST.

Howard Chan (smartboyhw)



2013/6/24 Nicholas Skaggs 

>  Just a quick reminder the first sessions kick off today, starting in 15
> mins! The full schedule can be seen here:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy
>
> Logs will be available after a session in case you miss it. Thanks
> everyone!
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Classroom Sessions,

[Ho Wan Chan]

My exam ends on 14th June, no worries;)
On 2013-6-4 下午12:50, "Phill Whiteside"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I will check, but as we are well in advance of the sessions being booked,
> I'm sure that it can be booked. As always with things, concentrate on your
> exams! you have the notes from your last session and also know of the
> changes made to testdrive which can now use either KVM (virt-manager) or
> Virtual Box. both of these sessions will have been held before you are
> asked to hold yours. If you are busy with Real Life and the time table is
> not good for your schooling, please do let us know. I REALLY mean this, we
> can find a replacement for this cycle of sessions and you return for the
> next.
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
> On 4 June 2013 05:35, Ho Wan Chan  wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Since I am in my examination period, I need someone to change the wiki
>> for me. I will probably hold it on 1st July, 2013 (HKSAR Establishment Day
>> Anniversary Holiday) 13:00 UTC -> 15:00 UTC.
>>
>> @Phill: Heh, I've done one Open Week session about QA and one Classroom
>> session about ISO testing, I know the procedures;) Will that "person" be
>> JoseeAntonioR or philipballew?
>>
>> smartboyhw
>> On 2013-6-4 上午8:50, "Phill Whiteside"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> there has been a slight restructuring of
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy
>>>
>>> @ Javier, could you move your section 5 ones later in the week? (I know,
>>> I'm a pain!) But keep your bug one at the same date? I'm trying to get a
>>> more logical flow of testing and being able to follow a manual test was
>>> asked to be done before we ask people to learn to write them.
>>>
>>> @ Jonathan, yes, there will be a 'classroom-backstage' person available
>>> for your session, and he is the guy who does not UTC times.
>>>
>>> @Smartyboyhw  He will also be available for you, given notice.
>>>
>>> @ Everyone else, please get the missing tutor and sessions filled in,
>>> else they will not be held.
>>>
>>> Please have a look through how the sessions are currently booked.
>>>
>>> Once again, thank you to all have volunteered to be tutors, keep and eye
>>> on the wiki page this week before it goes out for publishing to let the
>>> rest of people who are interested in *buntu know that we are holding the
>>> classroom sessions. I look forward to the sessions (nervous, as always when
>>> I do mine), but they are good 'fun' and allow people to ask questions which
>>> we can then update the various wiki pages for as per
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Instructors
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Phill.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 June 2013 21:21, Jackson Doak  wrote:
>>>
>>>> done, i don't have a date yet, only a time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Javier Lopez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Done, thanks for the ACK! =)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03/06/13 at 07:17pm, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>>>>> > Hi Javier, Jackson & Smartboyhw
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We have a planned schedule of the classrooms to run from Mon 24th
>>>>> June to
>>>>> > Sun 30th June. Can you update the wiki area[1] as to when you are
>>>>> available
>>>>> > to hold your classroom sessions so that we have time to get them
>>>>> > advertised. Pick a UTC that best suites you, holding some classroom
>>>>> > classroom sessions in different Time Zones.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Phill.
>>>>> > 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy
>>>>> >
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>>>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Classroom Sessions,

[Ho Wan Chan]

Dear all,

Since I am in my examination period, I need someone to change the wiki for
me. I will probably hold it on 1st July, 2013 (HKSAR Establishment Day
Anniversary Holiday) 13:00 UTC -> 15:00 UTC.

@Phill: Heh, I've done one Open Week session about QA and one Classroom
session about ISO testing, I know the procedures;) Will that "person" be
JoseeAntonioR or philipballew?

smartboyhw
On 2013-6-4 上午8:50, "Phill Whiteside"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> there has been a slight restructuring of
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy
>
> @ Javier, could you move your section 5 ones later in the week? (I know,
> I'm a pain!) But keep your bug one at the same date? I'm trying to get a
> more logical flow of testing and being able to follow a manual test was
> asked to be done before we ask people to learn to write them.
>
> @ Jonathan, yes, there will be a 'classroom-backstage' person available
> for your session, and he is the guy who does not UTC times.
>
> @Smartyboyhw  He will also be available for you, given notice.
>
> @ Everyone else, please get the missing tutor and sessions filled in, else
> they will not be held.
>
> Please have a look through how the sessions are currently booked.
>
> Once again, thank you to all have volunteered to be tutors, keep and eye
> on the wiki page this week before it goes out for publishing to let the
> rest of people who are interested in *buntu know that we are holding the
> classroom sessions. I look forward to the sessions (nervous, as always when
> I do mine), but they are good 'fun' and allow people to ask questions which
> we can then update the various wiki pages for as per
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Instructors
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
>
> On 3 June 2013 21:21, Jackson Doak  wrote:
>
>> done, i don't have a date yet, only a time.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Javier Lopez wrote:
>>
>>> Done, thanks for the ACK! =)
>>>
>>> On 03/06/13 at 07:17pm, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>>> > Hi Javier, Jackson & Smartboyhw
>>> >
>>> > We have a planned schedule of the classrooms to run from Mon 24th June
>>> to
>>> > Sun 30th June. Can you update the wiki area[1] as to when you are
>>> available
>>> > to hold your classroom sessions so that we have time to get them
>>> > advertised. Pick a UTC that best suites you, holding some classroom
>>> > classroom sessions in different Time Zones.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Phill.
>>> > 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy
>>> >
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>>>
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>>
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Re: New Xubuntu QA Lead and QA contacts

[Ho Wan Chan]

Welcome back to our QA community elfy:) Hope you and Noskcaj can bring
Xubuntu and Ubuntu QA to higher levels.

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
Ubuntu Member
On 2013-5-7 下午5:59, "Pasi Lallinaho"  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Just a quick note that Kev (elfy) [1] will be serving as the Xubuntu QA
> lead starting with the Saucy cycle. He will also mentor Jackson Doak
> (Noskcaj) [2] in his position in an effort to grow the QA team stronger.
>
> Elfy will also be serving as a Xubuntu QA contact along with me.
>
> Cheers,
> Pasi
>
> [1] https://launchpad.net/~elfy
> [2] https://launchpad.net/~noskcaj
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Re: Ubuntu Studio 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) Release Candidates needs testing!

[Ho Wan Chan]

Heads up guys, the Ubuntu developers just fixed a critical ubiquity bug, so
the image will be respined. Sorry for that and let's hope it's the last!

smartboyhw



2013/4/23 Ho Wan Chan 

> Hello Ubuntu Studio testers,
>
> We finally got the RC image listing in the ISO QA Tracker! The summary
> page of all flavours is available in
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds.
>
> For Ubuntu Studio we have three main testcases: Live session, where we
> test to see if our DVD image can actually run Ubuntu Studio in a live
> session; Install (entire disk), for us to test whether the installation is
> successful; and Post Installation (Ubuntu Studio), which is a specific
> testcase for Ubuntu Studio to check if the audio settings are working.
>
> The testcases are listed below:
>
> For amd64:
> Live session:
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42829/testcases/1303/results
> .
> Install (entire disk):
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42829/testcases/1300/results
> .
> Post-installation (Ubuntu Studio):
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42829/testcases/1455/results
> .
>
> For i386:
> Live session:
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42830/testcases/1303/results
> Install (entire disk):
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42830/testcases/1300/results
> Post-installation (Ubuntu Studio):
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42830/testcases/1455/results
>
> Download the image from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/currentand 
> follow the testcases in the above links. After you finished the
> testing, make sure you report the results in the links above. You should
> specify whether that's a pass (or fail) result, bugs reported and such.
>
> We also have upgrade testcases (WE NEED MORE HELP IN THAT BIT) where we
> test the upgrade process from 12.10 to 13.04. There are two methods: using
> an image to upgrade, and using the Software Updater to upgrade.
>
> For amd64:
> Upgrade (software updater):
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42847/testcases/1310/results
> Upgrade (image):
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42847/testcases/1498/results
>
> For i386:
> Upgrade (software updater):
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42848/testcases/1310/results
> Upgrade (image):
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42848/testcases/1498/results
>
> Again, follow the testcases and report your results in the above links.
>
> Thank you all for testing, and we hope you enjoy QA for Ubuntu Studio!
>
> Regards,
> Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
> Ubuntu Studio Release Manager
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/4/20 Ho Wan Chan 
>
>> Dear Ubuntu Studio developers, testers and fellow users:
>>
>> We are now near the final release of Ubuntu Studio 13.04 (Raring
>> Ringtail). We now need a full force of testers to help us do the testing of
>> the release candidate images!
>>
>> Sure, you may ask: What's the point of testing dailies, when the official
>> RC images hasn't landed in the ISO QA Tracker[1]?
>>
>> The following message is an answer from the Ubuntu Release Team to Phill
>> Whiteside (Lubuntu QA Lead) last evening (UTC time):
>> >
>> >> Pretty much everything from here forward (well, as of today's crons,
>> anyway) could be considered RC material.
>> >> Everything we're producing this week is an RC until we stop spinning
>> and declare a winner.
>> >> So, I'd rather you just encourage people to test early and often all
>> week, rather than fret over "the RC", of which there is none.
>> >> (Or there are many, depending on how you look at it)
>> >> All of them.
>> >> And lots.
>> >> Even when something *has* 100% test coverage, it STILL needs testing.
>> >> Because not all testers are created equal, and some do weird things to
>> find new and fun bugs.
>> >> So, really. Just ask people to beat the crap out of the ISOs over the
>> weekend and file bugs.
>>
>> Let me clarify: There is NO SINGLE RC. All the dailies produced now until
>> official release are RCs. So please, download a daily image of Ubuntu
>> Studio 13.04 (Raring Ringtail)  in [2] and start testing!
>>
>> You don't necesseraily have to report results in the ISO QA Tracker (for
>> now, since the RC milestone hasn't been created in there). However, you DO
>> have to report bugs for us:) When you target a bug, 

Re: Ubuntu Studio 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) Release Candidates needs testing!

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Ubuntu Studio testers,

We finally got the RC image listing in the ISO QA Tracker! The summary page
of all flavours is available in
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds.

For Ubuntu Studio we have three main testcases: Live session, where we test
to see if our DVD image can actually run Ubuntu Studio in a live session;
Install (entire disk), for us to test whether the installation is
successful; and Post Installation (Ubuntu Studio), which is a specific
testcase for Ubuntu Studio to check if the audio settings are working.

The testcases are listed below:

For amd64:
Live session:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42829/testcases/1303/results
.
Install (entire disk):
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42829/testcases/1300/results
.
Post-installation (Ubuntu Studio):
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42829/testcases/1455/results
.

For i386:
Live session:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42830/testcases/1303/results
Install (entire disk):
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42830/testcases/1300/results
Post-installation (Ubuntu Studio):
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42830/testcases/1455/results

Download the image from
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/currentand follow the
testcases in the above links. After you finished the
testing, make sure you report the results in the links above. You should
specify whether that's a pass (or fail) result, bugs reported and such.

We also have upgrade testcases (WE NEED MORE HELP IN THAT BIT) where we
test the upgrade process from 12.10 to 13.04. There are two methods: using
an image to upgrade, and using the Software Updater to upgrade.

For amd64:
Upgrade (software updater):
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42847/testcases/1310/results
Upgrade (image):
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42847/testcases/1498/results

For i386:
Upgrade (software updater):
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42848/testcases/1310/results
Upgrade (image):
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/269/builds/42848/testcases/1498/results

Again, follow the testcases and report your results in the above links.

Thank you all for testing, and we hope you enjoy QA for Ubuntu Studio!

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
Ubuntu Studio Release Manager








2013/4/20 Ho Wan Chan 

> Dear Ubuntu Studio developers, testers and fellow users:
>
> We are now near the final release of Ubuntu Studio 13.04 (Raring
> Ringtail). We now need a full force of testers to help us do the testing of
> the release candidate images!
>
> Sure, you may ask: What's the point of testing dailies, when the official
> RC images hasn't landed in the ISO QA Tracker[1]?
>
> The following message is an answer from the Ubuntu Release Team to Phill
> Whiteside (Lubuntu QA Lead) last evening (UTC time):
> >
> >> Pretty much everything from here forward (well, as of today's crons,
> anyway) could be considered RC material.
> >> Everything we're producing this week is an RC until we stop spinning
> and declare a winner.
> >> So, I'd rather you just encourage people to test early and often all
> week, rather than fret over "the RC", of which there is none.
> >> (Or there are many, depending on how you look at it)
> >> All of them.
> >> And lots.
> >> Even when something *has* 100% test coverage, it STILL needs testing.
> >> Because not all testers are created equal, and some do weird things to
> find new and fun bugs.
> >> So, really. Just ask people to beat the crap out of the ISOs over the
> weekend and file bugs.
>
> Let me clarify: There is NO SINGLE RC. All the dailies produced now until
> official release are RCs. So please, download a daily image of Ubuntu
> Studio 13.04 (Raring Ringtail)  in [2] and start testing!
>
> You don't necesseraily have to report results in the ISO QA Tracker (for
> now, since the RC milestone hasn't been created in there). However, you DO
> have to report bugs for us:) When you target a bug, try to identify the
> package that causes the bug and file a bug using "apport-bug
> ". Please, though, after the bug is filed please also report
> the bug against the "Ubuntu Studio" project (as long as that package is in
> Ubuntu Studio), by clicking "Also affect project" so that we can track the
> bug.
>
> I will send a e-mail again when we DO have the milestone in the ISO QA
> Tracker.
>
> Have fun testing!
>
> Regards,
>
> Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
>
> Ubuntu Studio Release Manager
>
> [1] iso.qa.ubuntu.com
>
> [2] cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current
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Ubuntu Studio 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) Release Candidates needs testing!

[Ho Wan Chan]

Dear Ubuntu Studio developers, testers and fellow users:

We are now near the final release of Ubuntu Studio 13.04 (Raring Ringtail).
We now need a full force of testers to help us do the testing of the
release candidate images!

Sure, you may ask: What's the point of testing dailies, when the official
RC images hasn't landed in the ISO QA Tracker[1]?

The following message is an answer from the Ubuntu Release Team to Phill
Whiteside (Lubuntu QA Lead) last evening (UTC time):
>
>> Pretty much everything from here forward (well, as of today's crons,
anyway) could be considered RC material.
>> Everything we're producing this week is an RC until we stop spinning and
declare a winner.
>> So, I'd rather you just encourage people to test early and often all
week, rather than fret over "the RC", of which there is none.
>> (Or there are many, depending on how you look at it)
>> All of them.
>> And lots.
>> Even when something *has* 100% test coverage, it STILL needs testing.
>> Because not all testers are created equal, and some do weird things to
find new and fun bugs.
>> So, really. Just ask people to beat the crap out of the ISOs over the
weekend and file bugs.

Let me clarify: There is NO SINGLE RC. All the dailies produced now until
official release are RCs. So please, download a daily image of Ubuntu
Studio 13.04 (Raring Ringtail)  in [2] and start testing!

You don't necesseraily have to report results in the ISO QA Tracker (for
now, since the RC milestone hasn't been created in there). However, you DO
have to report bugs for us:) When you target a bug, try to identify the
package that causes the bug and file a bug using "apport-bug
". Please, though, after the bug is filed please also report
the bug against the "Ubuntu Studio" project (as long as that package is in
Ubuntu Studio), by clicking "Also affect project" so that we can track the
bug.

I will send a e-mail again when we DO have the milestone in the ISO QA
Tracker.

Have fun testing!

Regards,

Howard Chan (smartboyhw)

Ubuntu Studio Release Manager

[1] iso.qa.ubuntu.com

[2] cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current
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Re: TestDrive maintenance

[Ho Wan Chan]

Dustin and the Testdrive team:

Would it be possible to merge
https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiomeneses/testdrive/FixingCdImage/+merge/159080now?
It is a proper bug fix by Sergio Meneses, and it fixes the issue where
there are two items per image.

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)


2013/4/16 Dustin Kirkland 

> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Ho Wan Chan 
> wrote:
> > Hello Dustin and Andres,
> >
> > I just submitted a merge proposal
> > (
> https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/testdrive/lp-1154563/+merge/158969)
> > to fix Launchpad Bug #1154563 (adding a Kubuntu active image).
> >
> > Help me to review and see if I did anything wrong!
>
> Got it, thanks.  Merged.
>
> > Regards,
> > Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
> > Ubuntu Community QA Team member, Ubuntu member, Kubuntu member
> >
> >
> > 2013/4/15 Dustin Kirkland 
> >>
> >> Hi Jackson,
> >>
> >> I saw this message in my IRC backlog this morning:
> >>
> >>  21:47:31> is it possible to transfer ownership of testdrive
> >> to the ubuntu QA team? it needs maintenance and so far whoever is in
> >> charge hasn't done much
> >>
> >> I'm quite happy that Ubuntu QA is as excited about TestDrive as I have
> >> been over the last few years!  I continue to use it almost every
> >> single day.  Andres Rodriguez (on CC) and I have maintained TestDrive
> >> together over that time, though neither of us have worked full-time on
> >> TestDrive in some time.
> >>
> >> We are, of course, always open to contribution and would welcome any
> >> help with bug triage and new feature development.
> >>
> >> Let's see a track record of contributions through bug management in
> >> bugs.launchpad.net/testdrive and merge proposals against lp:testdrive,
> >> and once we have that, Andres and I would be happy to extend
> >> maintenance and commit privileges through the launchpad.net/~testdrive
> >> team.
> >>
> >> Does that sound reasonable?  Anything to add, Andres?
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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> >> Ubuntu Core Developer
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Re: TestDrive maintenance

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello Dustin and Andres,

I just submitted a merge proposal (
https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/testdrive/lp-1154563/+merge/158969)
to fix Launchpad Bug #1154563 (adding a Kubuntu active image).

Help me to review and see if I did anything wrong!

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
Ubuntu Community QA Team member, Ubuntu member, Kubuntu member


2013/4/15 Dustin Kirkland 

> Hi Jackson,
>
> I saw this message in my IRC backlog this morning:
>
>  21:47:31> is it possible to transfer ownership of testdrive
> to the ubuntu QA team? it needs maintenance and so far whoever is in
> charge hasn't done much
>
> I'm quite happy that Ubuntu QA is as excited about TestDrive as I have
> been over the last few years!  I continue to use it almost every
> single day.  Andres Rodriguez (on CC) and I have maintained TestDrive
> together over that time, though neither of us have worked full-time on
> TestDrive in some time.
>
> We are, of course, always open to contribution and would welcome any
> help with bug triage and new feature development.
>
> Let's see a track record of contributions through bug management in
> bugs.launchpad.net/testdrive and merge proposals against lp:testdrive,
> and once we have that, Andres and I would be happy to extend
> maintenance and commit privileges through the launchpad.net/~testdrive
> team.
>
> Does that sound reasonable?  Anything to add, Andres?
>
> --
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>
> Dustin Kirkland
> Ubuntu Core Developer
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Re: Some clarifying questions

[Ho Wan Chan]

On 2013-4-14 上午9:43, "Jose I. Diaz Bardales" 
wrote:
>
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> Hello everyone!
>
> As I keep reading all the wiki pages about quality, some questions
> have emerged. If I read correctly I can test images, (which I have
> been doing lately) individual packages, and laptops. Is this correct?
>
> I also fond out that besides a usb I can also use a dvd or VM to test
> the image, right? and I can do Install, Live and Post-Install tests .
>
> Also the image can be either the development image(Raring) or the
> stable image(Precise)
>
> I read somewhere in the wiki that when it comes to laptops I can not
> use a VM so I have to use the usb or dvd to do a "Live" test of
> images, right? (I do not have an extra laptop) or do a "Install" and
> "Post-Install" in a VM of an image only and not a laptop test. Is this
> correct?

Um no. You can do "live", "install", "post-install" and laptop testing ON a
laptop.
>
> Thanks in advance!
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Ubuntu Studio 13.04 Beta 2 testing has started!

[Ho Wan Chan]

Dear developers, testers and users!

First of all, I am extremely sorry for the delay of this announcement. The
testing milestone for Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) has just been created
in the ISO QA Tracker yesterday afternoon (UTC time) and zequence, who was
supposed to send it for me this time, clearly forgotten to. Anyways

This time we would want testers to especially help out test the upgrade
process from Ubuntu Studio 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) to Ubuntu Studio 13.04
(Raring Ringtail) Beta 2. Try to install applications that aren't included
in the default ISO, and do some settings customization.

Then either download the image from
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/pending (NOT c
urrent) and boot into it to upgrade, or just use the Software Updater to do
so.

After upgrading, make sure all the packages are upgraded and that the
settings do remain. If they don't, file a bug against that package in the
Terminal using ``apport-bug (package name)``.

If you just wanted to test the images, use the previous link to download
the ISO. Make sure you run the post-installation tests too.

No matter you are doing the upgrade tests or the installation tests, make
sure you follow tightly the testcases written in
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/264/builds and report the
testing results. When reporting your results please include the bug number
(if any), a hardware profile and some remarks (e.g. whether you are using
VM).

The deadline for testing will be 4th April 14:00 UTC, so that leaves us not
much time for testing.

Fire up your machines and start testing!!

If you have any questions, e-mail ubuntu-studio-de...@lists.ubuntu.com or
go to #ubuntustudio-devel on Freenode and contact Howard Chan (smartboyhw),
Kaj Ailomma (zequence) or Len Ovenwerks (len-1304).

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
Ubuntu Studio Release Manager
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Fwd: Ubuntu Studio 13.04 Beta 1 testing is now on!

[Ho Wan Chan]

-- Forwarded message --
From: "Ho Wan Chan" 
Date: 2013-3-12 下午6:39
Subject: Ubuntu Studio 13.04 Beta 1 testing is now on!
To: "Ubuntu Studio Development & Technical Discussion" <
ubuntu-studio-de...@lists.ubuntu.com>

Dear fellow testers:

The testing period for Ubuntu Studio 13.04 Beta 1 has started!

Ubuntu Studio 13.04 Beta 1 is a release milestone to release Ubuntu Studio
13.04. This is a beta release, so only testers and enthusiatic users should
use this release.

The Ubuntu Studio team has implemented lots of new features, including new
apps (supercollider, faust, lmms, kdenlive, recordmydesktop, Krita, and
create-resources), new wallpapers from the community, new ubiquity, new
menu items, and much more!

Please test the images which can be downloaded from
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/raring/dvd/current/ . We especially
want testers with amd64 machines to test the amd64 ISOs since there was
normally a problem of not having enough testers. Just follow the testcases
for Ubuntu Studio in
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/261/builds.

After you have tested it report the result on the same page of the
testcases. If the ISO installs and boots and runs OK after installation,
submit a pass result. If it fails, please submit a failed result and also
leave the comment with the reported bug(s) and comment. It would also be
nice to give us the link of your hardware profile.

If you have any questions please contact Scott Lavender (scott-work), Kaj
Ailomaa (zequence)or Howard Chan (smartboyhw) in #ubuntustudio-devel on
irc.freenode.net.

Wish you a happy time testing!

Regards,
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Re: Up coming Jams.

[Ho Wan Chan]

Resend to Sergio's mailbox.

Also UWN Issue 305 was released today, featuring Nicholas and my post, and
also Sergio's post about Lubuntu alternate ISO testing.

I request that every Ubuntu member of Ubuntu QA fire up your Planet Ubuntu
blig and write about it!!!

smartboyhw
On 2013-2-26 下午5:55, "Ho Wan Chan"  wrote:

> 1. We do have Nicholas' blog post in the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter draft.
> It will also include a blog post from me about ISO testing (I do have
> another one about general testing in Ubuntu Global Jam, but it didn't meet
> the deadline).
>
> 2. Hold a 24-hour IRC + Classroom marathon, just like what the Canonical
> Community Team did?
>
> smartboyhw
> On 2013-2-26 上午8:28, "Phill Whiteside"  wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> as work has been put in for documenting up what quality / testing team
>> have [1]. It would be good to have Nicholas' blog [2] put onto the Ubuntu
>> Weekly News letter so that people setting up Jams are aware.
>>
>> More than that, as several of us are familiar with holding classroom
>> sessions and we are also scattered across lots of time zones, maybe include
>> that one of us would be available for remote participation (provided the
>> date and time is pre-agreed) to hold a remote session, answer any
>> questions, provide links etc.
>>
>> Anyone I have not directly emailed who is interested in being available,
>> please email back to ensure we have enough people around to encourage the
>> good people holding Jams to include a quality / testing session at their
>> Jams. This availability of people would be re-assuring to them if they do
>> not have some one fully 'up to speed' with what quality / testing is.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>> 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing
>> 2.
>> http://qa.ubuntu.com/2013/02/19/plan-a-ubuntu-global-jam-testing-event/
>>
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Re: Up coming Jams.

[Ho Wan Chan]

1. We do have Nicholas' blog post in the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter draft. It
will also include a blog post from me about ISO testing (I do have another
one about general testing in Ubuntu Global Jam, but it didn't meet the
deadline).

2. Hold a 24-hour IRC + Classroom marathon, just like what the Canonical
Community Team did?

smartboyhw
On 2013-2-26 上午8:28, "Phill Whiteside"  wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> as work has been put in for documenting up what quality / testing team
> have [1]. It would be good to have Nicholas' blog [2] put onto the Ubuntu
> Weekly News letter so that people setting up Jams are aware.
>
> More than that, as several of us are familiar with holding classroom
> sessions and we are also scattered across lots of time zones, maybe include
> that one of us would be available for remote participation (provided the
> date and time is pre-agreed) to hold a remote session, answer any
> questions, provide links etc.
>
> Anyone I have not directly emailed who is interested in being available,
> please email back to ensure we have enough people around to encourage the
> good people holding Jams to include a quality / testing session at their
> Jams. This availability of people would be re-assuring to them if they do
> not have some one fully 'up to speed' with what quality / testing is.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
> 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing
> 2. http://qa.ubuntu.com/2013/02/19/plan-a-ubuntu-global-jam-testing-event/
>
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Re: Ubuntu Phone OS

[Ho Wan Chan]

Well along with the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4 Canonical would also release
the source codes for Ubuntu on phone, which means you can port it to your
device.

smartboyhw
On 2013-2-17 上午1:13, "Goddard"  wrote:

> So what happened to all android phones being able to run Ubuntu Phone is
> that still coming down the pipe?
>
> Sorry kind of jumped in last minute.
>
> Ryein C. Goddard
> ryein.godd...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Feb 16, 2013, at 6:42 AM, Ho Wan Chan  wrote:
>
> Sadly only the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4 will have images, as described
> in
> http://www.canonical.com/content/touch-developer-preview-ubuntu-be-published-21-february-2013
>
> smartboyhw
>
> P.S. why this discussion doesn't happen in ubuntu-phone mailing
> list!!?!?!?!?!
>
>
> 2013/2/16 Carla Sella 
>
>> On 02/16/2013 03:36 PM, Ho Wan Chan wrote:
>>
>>> Yes you will have the image for this also on the 21st so no worries
>>>
>>> smartboyhw
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Is there a way to know on what phones the image will work on ?
>> For instance I have a Samsung Galaxy S III and would like to try it :D.
>>
>>
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Re: Ubuntu Phone OS

[Ho Wan Chan]

Sadly only the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4 will have images, as described
in
http://www.canonical.com/content/touch-developer-preview-ubuntu-be-published-21-february-2013

smartboyhw

P.S. why this discussion doesn't happen in ubuntu-phone mailing
list!!?!?!?!?!


2013/2/16 Carla Sella 

> On 02/16/2013 03:36 PM, Ho Wan Chan wrote:
>
>> Yes you will have the image for this also on the 21st so no worries
>>
>> smartboyhw
>>
>>
>>
> Is there a way to know on what phones the image will work on ?
> For instance I have a Samsung Galaxy S III and would like to try it :D.
>
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Re: Ubuntu Phone OS

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Yes you will have the image for this also on the 21st so no worries

smartboyhw



2013/2/16 hector kilembe 

> I Have this phone Samsung Galaxy Nexus I9250 AKA Samsung Google Nexus 3
>
> http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_nexus_i9250-4219.php
>
> On 2/16/13, Ho Wan Chan  wrote:
> > Is there anything like the Nexus 3?
> >
> > Canonical will provide images for Nexus 4 though (if it is what you mean)
> > on the 21st of February, 2013 (just 5 days later) so wait for a bit.
> >
> > Regards,
> > smartboyhw
> >
> >
> > 2013/2/16 hector kilembe 
> >
> >> Guys
> >>
> >> How do i get a copy of Ubuntu Mobile on my Nexus 3 Phone? Please
> >> help.. :)
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Re: Ubuntu Phone OS

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Is there anything like the Nexus 3?

Canonical will provide images for Nexus 4 though (if it is what you mean)
on the 21st of February, 2013 (just 5 days later) so wait for a bit.

Regards,
smartboyhw


2013/2/16 hector kilembe 

> Guys
>
> How do i get a copy of Ubuntu Mobile on my Nexus 3 Phone? Please
> help.. :)
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Re: Classroom Sessions Complete!

[Ho Wan Chan]

Thank you everyone for participating and special thanks to pleia2 and
JoseeAntonioR!

smartboyhw
On 2013-2-15 上午12:38, "Nicholas Skaggs" 
wrote:

> The classroom sessions held over the last 2 months are now all complete
> (apart from the on on virtualbox which will happen later; perhaps next
> cycle). You can find logs for all of the sessions at the link below. Click
> on the event you wish to view, and you'll get the log :-)
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**Testing/Activities/Classroom
>
> I would also like to thank all of the instructors for putting this
> material together for everyone:
>
> phillw, gema, noskcaj, smartboyhw, primes2h, letozaf, sergiomeneses
>
> Thank you!
>
> Thank you as well to pleia2, JoseeAntonioR and the other classroom team
> members who helped us schedule and run the sessions.
>
> And finally, thank you for those who attended the sessions. I trust they
> were helpful to you and helped you to get started in ubuntu quality. If you
> have a need or idea for a session, tutorial, etc, as always just mention it
> on the list.
>
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Fwd: Ubuntu Studio 12.04.2 LTS Testing has started!

[Ho Wan Chan]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Ho Wan Chan 
Date: 2013/2/8
Subject: Ubuntu Studio 12.04.2 LTS Testing has started!
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Dear fellow testers:

The testing period for Ubuntu Studio 12.04.2 LTS has started!

Ubuntu Studio 12.04.2 LTS is a point release of Ubuntu Studio 12.04 LTS,
incorporating the latest changes in the Ubuntu archive after the release of
Ubuntu Studio 12.04.1 LTS.

There hadn't been much big changes, except with the linux-lowlatency
kernel, which was now updated to 3.2.0-37.37, based on the Linux v.3.2.37
kernel.

Please test the images which can be downloaded from
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/precise/dvd/current/ . We especially
want testers with amd64 machines to test the amd64 ISOs since there was
normally a problem of not having enough testers. Just follow the testcases
for Ubuntu Studio in
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/254/builds.

After you have tested it report the result on the same page of the
testcases. If the ISO installs and boots and runs OK after installation,
submit a pass result. If it fails, please submit a failed result and also
leave the comment with the reported bug(s) and comment. It would also be
nice to give us the link of your hardware profile.

If you have any questions please contact Scott Lavender (scott-work) or
Howard Chan (smartboyhw) in #ubuntustudio-devel on irc.freenode.net.

Wish you a happy time testing, a happy Chinese New Year of the Snake and a
happy Ubuntu 12.04.2 release day on Valentine's Day!

Regards,
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Re: Can I move my session a bit FORWARD?

[Ho Wan Chan]

Anyway Phill approved it.

So Nicholas: 13th Feb 2013, 13:00 - 15:00 UTC. @balloons, @phillw try to be
there:)

Regards,
smartboyhw



2013/2/9 Ho Wan Chan 

> balloons,
>
> I want to move my session about the ISO tests FORWARD. I will move it to
> 13th, so people can help with 12.04.2 testing and Alpha 2 testing.
>
> Same time slot.
>
> Can you give me the approval to change it and tell @lyz or @JoseeAntonioR?
>
> Thanks,
> smartboyhw
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Can I move my session a bit FORWARD?

[Ho Wan Chan]

balloons,

I want to move my session about the ISO tests FORWARD. I will move it to
13th, so people can help with 12.04.2 testing and Alpha 2 testing.

Same time slot.

Can you give me the approval to change it and tell @lyz or @JoseeAntonioR?

Thanks,
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Re: Cadence Week 6 -- Now with more of yours truly!

[Ho Wan Chan]

Presumably I will be here on Valentine's day, 14:00-15:00 to answer
questions and also helping any flavours (Ubuntu Studio, Kubuntu, Xubuntu
and Ubuntu desktop would be my priority) to be able to finish their tests
on 12.04.2.

To testers:
This week I advise you to do more ISO testing, since 12.04.2 will clash
with Kubuntu/Edubuntu 13.04 Alpha 2. So if you think that you had done all
the ISOs in 12.04.2 section in ISO tracker, try Alpha 2.

(Good that it is Chinese New Year holiday for me, so I will be spending my
whole holiday helping testing 12.04.2 ISOs and Alpha 2 ISOs.)

Wish everyone a happy testing week, a happy Chinese New Year of the Snake,
and happy 12.04.2 and 13.04 Alpha 2 release day on Valentine's day!

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
On 2013-2-9 上午1:55, "Nicholas Skaggs"  wrote:

>  The next cadence week is upon, starting Saturday Feb 9th. If the term
> seems new or unfamiliar to you, I'd encourage you to read this link for a
> background on what we're doing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cadence.
> In short, as a community we're testing different things every 2 weeks in
> ubuntu, and sharing results to flesh out bugs and problem areas.
>
> For each cadence week, new tests are selected. This week we have several
> tests selected. There is a new alsa stack landing in raring; we'd like to
> help test this before it lands. In addition, our empathy and nautilus
> testcases have been updated to match the new versions of these pieces of
> software (big thank you to chilicuil for these!). We'd like to take a run
> through each one and make sure things are up to snuff. Finally, our daily
> images will be tested this week. So we've got a full testing plate with new
> feature testing, some application regression testing, and some iso testing
> to round it out :-)
>
> This page will link you to all of the testcases mentioned. Click the links
> to be taken to the appropriate testcases and submission form.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Cadence/Raring/Week6
>
> If you need help submitting results, have a look at this page,
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker, and the walkthroughs listed.
> In addition, I'll be hosting 2 events next week where you can join in and
> participate live with others in executing the testcases. For those of you
> who are visual, the first event will be streamed and placed on youtube for
> later viewing. I'll include the links for the event dates and times below,
> but don't worry, I'll send reminders out as well on G+ and twitter
> (@ubuntutesting).
>
> Monday Feb 11th, 1800-1900 UTC in #ubuntu-quality. I'll also be streaming
> live (fingers crossed!) my participation in executing the tests (I'll push
> it to youtube after)
>
> Thursday Feb 14th, 1400-1500 UTC in #ubuntu-quality. No stream, but we'll
> be hanging out answering questions, and working on submitting test results.
>
> I hope one of those times works out for you; if not, please do plan your
> own testing time block and submit your results.
>
> Happy weekend, and happy testing everyone,
>
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Ubuntu QA Classroom session -- "Your first ISO test"

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hi guys.

As mentioned in [1], I will be holding a session for people to try and
do their first ISO test.

I originally decided that the date shall be 5th February, 13:30 GMT.
(I did tell Nicholas yesterday). However, seeing that it won't be a
good idea to leave out such a big space in between Section 2+3
sessions (in 23rd January) and my session, I decided to move it
forward to 29th January, 13:30 GMT.

Hopefully than the Ubuntu Laptop Testing Team can finish it before
10th February (aka Chinese New Year).

Thanks,
smartboyhw (Howard Chan)

[1]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom

P.S. I hate getting things not finished after Chinese New Year, a
tradition problem:P

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Re: This week in QA

[Ho Wan Chan]

And all of mine came from lp branches:-P

Finally my exam finished and now I can join in the fun!!
On 2013-1-15 上午5:12, "Jackson Doak"  wrote:

> i thought my launchpad karma was all from bugs. just remembered i merged
> one of carla's tests if thats all
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Nicholas Skaggs <
> nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:
>
>>  Launchpad says you've got karma buddy :-) And lp never lies!
>>
>> Nicholas
>>
>> On 01/14/2013 04:05 PM, Jackson Doak wrote:
>>
>> i helped with the auto testcases? all i've done is say xubuntu and
>> lubuntu need them too.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Nicholas Skaggs <
>> nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Here's what's happening in QA this week :-)
>>>
>>> We have our week 4 cadence testing under way. The new stuff on the table
>>> is pulseaudio testing from the audio dev ppa. There's a new version to land
>>> and a set of smoke tests. In addition, I'm busy packaging up some of our
>>> first autopilot testcase conversions. Thanks to all the current
>>> contributors (dkessel, letzoaf, noskcaj) as well as the wonderful autopilot
>>> team who has been helpful in giving us tips and suggestions. And of course,
>>> everyone who helped write the original tests as well as those will now run
>>> and give feedback (that's you!) :-)
>>>
>>> Full details can be found here:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Cadence/Raring/Week4
>>>
>>> Note, I'm working on packaging the autopilot tests (hopefully making it
>>> easy to run for everyone) so stay tuned for those :-)
>>>
>>> In addition, please remember the first classroom sessions will be
>>> tomorrow, held by me and phillw. I'll be doing an introduction to QA, and
>>> phillw is taking it a bit further by taking about testcase writing. Plan to
>>> come out and attend if you can! You can see the full schedule here:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom
>>>
>>> Nicholas
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Re: Classroom sessions

[Ho Wan Chan]

To be able to participate in the Classroom sessions, you will need to join
the #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat channels when the session
is running. You listen to the session in #ubuntu-classroom and you ask
questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat. Live webinars we could possibly
run some sessions using Ubuntu On Air! Nicholas, Phill, Gema, Jackson: Any
ideas?

Also has anyone contacted the laptop testing team on the laptop testing
sessions!?

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)


2012/12/5 Dipan Patel 

> How to participate in Classroom Session. Are you going to organize any
> live webniar? Please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Dipan
>
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Gema Gomez <
> gema.gomez-sol...@canonical.com> wrote:
>
>> On 24/11/12 00:44, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > further moving on from the email listing of suggestions, I've put up a
>> > wiki area[1]. Please do discuss on the mailing list as to what areas we
>> > are going to cover. I know I will have forgotten some important area!
>> > I've sent an email to the laptop testing team asking them if they want
>> > to take part for the session listed. I've not contacted the bug-team yet
>> > as I do dimly recall them having held sessions in the past which could
>> > be referenced to in a 'talk' about bug-hunting.
>> >
>> > @ Nicholas, some way, some how... We are going to need people to
>> > actually grab an iso early on, else when we cover updating iso's / using
>> > them in test environments we would start the session and come back next
>> > day when some of them have actually managed to pull one in. Maybe using
>> > xubuntu or lubuntu as they are still CD sized would be better for the
>> > 'classroom' session, else anyone without DVD Writer / USB drive would
>> > not be able to follow?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Phill.
>> > 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Hey, I'd like to offer a session on how to raise good bugs. I haven't
>> been following this thread very closely due to other commitments. I am
>> dealing with escalating bugs and training people to raise bugs that get
>> fixed with minimum hassle day over day, so I think this may be
>> interesting to others outside our team too. And could make our whole bug
>> reporting/fixing process smoother.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gema
>>
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Re: Classroom sessions

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To Nicholas, Phill:
I certainly can't do it before 17th January. I am going to have my exam
starting from the 3rd.

Best date for me should be around 22nd.

Thanks,
smartboyhw
On 2012-12-5 上午4:09, "Nicholas Skaggs" 
wrote:

> @Liz, what would you recommend we do in order to prepare people for the
> sessions? In this case, we would like people to pre-download an iso (for a
> specific session) so they will have it available, without worrying about
> having a super fast connection to grab it during the session -- is this
> something that can be announced easily?
>
> I've spoken with Phil, and Jackson, both are ok with January. @Howard, how
> about you?
>
> If so, let's pick some dates. My session will start first, so I'll go in
> the first week, say Jan 4th at 1800 UTC with the 'Intro to QA' session. I
> don't think we need to go back to back or anything. Maybe a session or two
> each week for the month. I think the rest can pick dates / times that are
> suitable for them from there.
>
> Phillw has a nice page here detailing more things.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**Testing/Activities/Classroom
>
> Nicholas
>
> On 11/23/2012 07:44 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> further moving on from the email listing of suggestions, I've put up a
>> wiki area[1]. Please do discuss on the mailing list as to what areas we are
>> going to cover. I know I will have forgotten some important area! I've sent
>> an email to the laptop testing team asking them if they want to take part
>> for the session listed. I've not contacted the bug-team yet as I do dimly
>> recall them having held sessions in the past which could be referenced to
>> in a 'talk' about bug-hunting.
>>
>> @ Nicholas, some way, some how... We are going to need people to actually
>> grab an iso early on, else when we cover updating iso's / using them in
>> test environments we would start the session and come back next day when
>> some of them have actually managed to pull one in. Maybe using xubuntu or
>> lubuntu as they are still CD sized would be better for the 'classroom'
>> session, else anyone without DVD Writer / USB drive would not be able to
>> follow?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>> 1. 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**Testing/Activities/Classroom
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Re: Autopilot xubuntu

[Ho Wan Chan]

Probably no. Jackson, you should probably work with knome and elfy on these
autopilot testcases.

Also to everyone: Try to remove the ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com from your
email's contact lists (except if you are a Qatar LoCo team member). Clearly
both I and Jackson made the mistake of sending the mails (aka the no Alpha
1 and this one) to the wrong mailing lists.

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)


2012/12/3 Jackson Doak 

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No Alpha 1 for you (except if you want to play with Kubuntu)

[Ho Wan Chan]

Hello to all!

So, Canonical has decided to remove the Alpha and Beta 1 Milestones for
Ubuntu Desktop/Netboot/Nexus7 etc.

However, community flavors can still decide to whether they want Alpha and
Beta milestones. Now it is coming up to the time where we test community
Alpha 1 ISOs.

However, in an e-mail thread concerning about the release of Alpha 1
milestones, only Kubuntu is going to do it. Even Edubuntu, which as I
recall would like to do Alpha milestones, decided to dump Alpha 1.

So unless you want to help test Kubuntu Alpha 1 images, then sorry no Alpha
1 for you!

I know this isn't a cadence week, so try to play with autopilot more or
help test some daily images!!!

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
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