Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-04-03 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Otto,

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 08:33:53PM +0300, Otto Kekäläinen wrote:
> I might look into uploading mariadb-10.3 if I have energy to debug all
> epoch fallout issues in the control file, but it seems unlikely it
> would make into Ubuntu 18.04 since freeze and release is upon us.

mariadb-10.1 is an unseeded universe package; certainly if there are no
library ABI changes this should be straightforward to include for 18.04, and
if there are library ABI changes I would still consider it.

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Re: Request to reset src:mariadb-10.1 to previous known working state in Ubuntu archives

2018-03-15 Thread Steve Langasek
ing against:

> 6. Going backwards in version numbers. AIUI, Launchpad will not permit
> this anyway and nor will Debian ftpmasters.

> 7. Directly fixing mariadb-10.2 without reverting mariadb-10.1 first by
> bumping it. Since Bionic is past feature freeze and mariadb-10.2 has
> always been broken, I think it's prudent to get the archive into a
> releaseable state first, and only then looking at bumping major
> versions. IMHO (but this is the release team's decision and not mine),
> we should consider 10.2 to have missed feature freeze since it has
> always been broken. Making 10.2 or 10.3 work in the archive for Bionic
> now should be breaking feature freeze so should follow the usual
> exception process. In any case, re-publishing mariadb-10.1 as I suggest
> should be comparatively trivial and will not impact any move to 10.2 or
> 10.3 whether in this cycle or in the future.

> Does this plan (steps 1 to 3 above) seem reasonable to everyone?

+1 from me.

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Re: Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-29 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Michał,

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:33:00AM +0100, Michał Sawicz wrote:
 On 26.11.2013 02:44, Ursula Junque wrote:
 If upstreams don't oppose to that, bugs should only be filed against
 Ubuntu packages, discouraging the direct upstream reporting. Once we
 have an agreement, we need to document this to prevent all the confusion
 to happen again, and then discuss what to do with the previously
 reported bugs. Oliver (ogra) said there was an email some time ago to
 direct people to file bugs only against Ubuntu packages but no one seems
 to find it, feel free to point that out if you think that's relevant.

 I just tried to file a bug against Ubuntu (unity8)¹, unfortunately I
 can't set the status to 'Triaged', or decide the importance. So,
 well... I can't triage Ubuntu (unity8) bugs.

 AFAICT, we also don't get notified about new Ubuntu (unity8) bugs,
 even though I added a subscription for my team².

 Not exactly sure why that is, but the project has Maintainer: Ubuntu
 Developers³, which actually doesn't exist...⁴

 All in all, if all of us need to get added to some global Ubuntu
 team to be able to triage Ubuntu (*) bugs for their projects, that's
 not ideal... Current state doesn't work for us either...

Well, you say it's not ideal; but we are all working together toward a
common goal of producing a coherent OS, and there are benefits to having
consistent policies for bug tracking across the various components of that
OS.  I think the members of your team (and other upstream teams) should
easily be able to meet the requirements for the bugsquad team, and
participate in bug triage for your packages on an equal footing with the
rest of the community.

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Re: raring iso beta2 - incomplete language support

2013-04-22 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Nick,

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 06:03:38PM -0400, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:
 Excellent, thanks Vasudevan.

 So open question to the release team -- should these two packages be
 on the iso?
 hyphen-en-us
 thunderbird-locale-en

 (I reckon for all default languages they are missing as well).

 I checked the filesystem manifest for the latest raring iso and
 indeed these are missing. And we prompt then upon login to install
 them if you do a non-network english install. My guess is for our
 supported languages we should include these packages. Thoughts?

It's expected/intended that these packages are not included on the ISO.
The first time the machine is connected to the network, you're offered the
option to install them; but they're optional packages, and including them on
the CD would mean a trade-off between never prompting to install extra
packages for language support, and fitting more languages on the image.  I
think making the image useful to users of more languages when no network is
available at all is worthwhile.

BTW, when you say prompt upon login if you do a non-network install, you
mean that you're prompted if you did a non-network install and then
connected to the network post-install, correct?  Obviously if you have no
network, we shouldn't prompt you to install packages you'll be unable to
download.

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 On 04/18/2013 05:02 PM, Vasudevan Kottilil wrote:
 Hi Nicholas,
 This is the info that I have:
 Some translations or writing aids available for your chosen
 languages are not installed yet -
 Details
 hyphen-en-us
 thunderbird-locale-en
 
 contents for one of the preseed files from 1304 iso
 
 cat /mnt/preseed/cli.seed
 # Only install the standard system and language packs.
 taskseltasksel/firstmultiselect
 d-ipkgsel/language-pack-patternsstring
 # No language support packages.
 d-ipkgsel/install-language-supportboolean false
 
 Vasudevan
 On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Vasudevan Kottilil
 vasudeva...@gmail.com mailto:vasudeva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes - installed it with out internet access.
 After installation, ran apt-get update and still got it.
 Will try to see what all language packs got installed.
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Nicholas Skaggs
 nicholas.ska...@canonical.com
 mailto:nicholas.ska...@canonical.com wrote:
 
 Take a look at what it is wanting to install -- what packages?
 Odds are the following happened:
 
 You installed without internet access
 The language packs it wants to install for US English aren't
 on the cd
 
 Now, if you figure out what language packs didn't install, we
 can narrow if they are on the image or not. If they are, it's
 most certainly a bug. If they aren't we'll have to confer with
 the release team about whether or not they should be included.
 I hope that makes sense! Let us know!
 
 Nicholas
 
 
 On 04/15/2013 11:20 AM, Vasudevan Kottilil wrote:
 
 After installation, this window pops up.
 The language support for your selected language seems to
 be incomplete ... etc.
 Installation options were default - language - US English
 Not sure if this is expected behavior or not.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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