Re: Reporting bugs for packages in the ubuntu-manual-test

2015-01-22 Thread Nicholas Skaggs

On 01/22/2015 01:38 PM, Elfy wrote:

On 22/01/15 18:22, Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote:

You have a point. I picked Vino and Remmina, because

1) I like VNC networking, and did not want to cower away from learning
something new
2) I started with these packages as an attempt to began contributing
manual testcases
3) these packages are not currently being tested

Of course I could have, and should have, tested packages that I am
familiar with. My idea, as a tester, is to test everything, not just
what you like. If this kind of thinking is not logical, I am happy to
change. Personally, I prefer doing things that come naturally to me ;-)


Obviously you can write whichever ones you want :)

You asked for opinions - I gave you mine.


We are happy to review anything you put forward, but I would also 
suggest starting with something you are familar with since you are 
trying to learn the process. One thing at a time :-)


Nicholas

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Re: Reporting bugs for packages in the ubuntu-manual-test

2015-01-22 Thread Elfy
On 22/01/15 18:22, Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote:
> You have a point. I picked Vino and Remmina, because
>
> 1) I like VNC networking, and did not want to cower away from learning
> something new
> 2) I started with these packages as an attempt to began contributing
> manual testcases
> 3) these packages are not currently being tested
>
> Of course I could have, and should have, tested packages that I am
> familiar with. My idea, as a tester, is to test everything, not just
> what you like. If this kind of thinking is not logical, I am happy to
> change. Personally, I prefer doing things that come naturally to me ;-)
>
Obviously you can write whichever ones you want :)

You asked for opinions - I gave you mine.


> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Elfy  > wrote:
>
> On 22/01/15 14:24, istimsak wrote:
> > Hello everyone. It has been awhile since my last contribution to
> > ubuntu QA. Trying to get back into testing feels like stepping
> into a
> > whole new world again. Questions I will ask and things I will do
> might
> > seem a bit newbish to you. This happens when I lack effort.
> >
> > I was in the process of testing vino and remmina as these two
> packages
> > are in need of testcases. Since I have never used these packages, I
> > needed to test them to get a feel for how they worked at the
> basic level.
> >
> > Vino turned out to be a bit confusing. I learned this is the default
> > VNC server for ubuntu-gnome. I an not using ubuntu gnome, don't have
> > the hardware for it. I was testing it on my lubuntu laptop 14.04.
> > The setup was not easy to configure or understand. It seems to be a
> > server that must be executed from the command line. There was no man
> > page for it. Online documentations were too brief and there are no
> > other forms of configuration other than how a user connects to the
> > server but not every attribute of the server, if this makes sense.
> > During testing, I became more confused with this package. I filed a
> > bug, not because it did not work, but because configuration
> > documentation was limited. I wasn't sure what to do. Plus, I would
> > think something installed by default should be simple for anyone to
> > configure and use.
> > What approach should I have taken?
> >
> > Istimsak Abdulbasir
> Hi - whilst I applaud the effort to create manual testcases -
> would you
> not have felt more comfortable choosing something that you were more
> familiar with?
>
> There are currently 15 tagged as Lubuntu - would you not be better
> served doing those to start with, of course you do really need to
> do so
> from the current dev release to ensure you're writing the test against
> what is going to be tested.
>
> regards
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Reporting bugs for packages in the ubuntu-manual-test

2015-01-22 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
You have a point. I picked Vino and Remmina, because

1) I like VNC networking, and did not want to cower away from learning
something new
2) I started with these packages as an attempt to began contributing manual
testcases
3) these packages are not currently being tested

Of course I could have, and should have, tested packages that I am familiar
with. My idea, as a tester, is to test everything, not just what you like.
If this kind of thinking is not logical, I am happy to change. Personally,
I prefer doing things that come naturally to me ;-)

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Elfy  wrote:

> On 22/01/15 14:24, istimsak wrote:
> > Hello everyone. It has been awhile since my last contribution to
> > ubuntu QA. Trying to get back into testing feels like stepping into a
> > whole new world again. Questions I will ask and things I will do might
> > seem a bit newbish to you. This happens when I lack effort.
> >
> > I was in the process of testing vino and remmina as these two packages
> > are in need of testcases. Since I have never used these packages, I
> > needed to test them to get a feel for how they worked at the basic level.
> >
> > Vino turned out to be a bit confusing. I learned this is the default
> > VNC server for ubuntu-gnome. I an not using ubuntu gnome, don't have
> > the hardware for it. I was testing it on my lubuntu laptop 14.04.
> > The setup was not easy to configure or understand. It seems to be a
> > server that must be executed from the command line. There was no man
> > page for it. Online documentations were too brief and there are no
> > other forms of configuration other than how a user connects to the
> > server but not every attribute of the server, if this makes sense.
> > During testing, I became more confused with this package. I filed a
> > bug, not because it did not work, but because configuration
> > documentation was limited. I wasn't sure what to do. Plus, I would
> > think something installed by default should be simple for anyone to
> > configure and use.
> > What approach should I have taken?
> >
> > Istimsak Abdulbasir
> Hi - whilst I applaud the effort to create manual testcases - would you
> not have felt more comfortable choosing something that you were more
> familiar with?
>
> There are currently 15 tagged as Lubuntu - would you not be better
> served doing those to start with, of course you do really need to do so
> from the current dev release to ensure you're writing the test against
> what is going to be tested.
>
> regards
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Reporting bugs for packages in the ubuntu-manual-test

2015-01-22 Thread Elfy
On 22/01/15 14:24, istimsak wrote:
> Hello everyone. It has been awhile since my last contribution to
> ubuntu QA. Trying to get back into testing feels like stepping into a
> whole new world again. Questions I will ask and things I will do might
> seem a bit newbish to you. This happens when I lack effort.
>
> I was in the process of testing vino and remmina as these two packages
> are in need of testcases. Since I have never used these packages, I
> needed to test them to get a feel for how they worked at the basic level.
>
> Vino turned out to be a bit confusing. I learned this is the default
> VNC server for ubuntu-gnome. I an not using ubuntu gnome, don't have
> the hardware for it. I was testing it on my lubuntu laptop 14.04.
> The setup was not easy to configure or understand. It seems to be a
> server that must be executed from the command line. There was no man
> page for it. Online documentations were too brief and there are no
> other forms of configuration other than how a user connects to the
> server but not every attribute of the server, if this makes sense.
> During testing, I became more confused with this package. I filed a
> bug, not because it did not work, but because configuration
> documentation was limited. I wasn't sure what to do. Plus, I would
> think something installed by default should be simple for anyone to
> configure and use.
> What approach should I have taken?
>
> Istimsak Abdulbasir
Hi - whilst I applaud the effort to create manual testcases - would you
not have felt more comfortable choosing something that you were more
familiar with?

There are currently 15 tagged as Lubuntu - would you not be better
served doing those to start with, of course you do really need to do so
from the current dev release to ensure you're writing the test against
what is going to be tested.

regards






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Reporting bugs for packages in the ubuntu-manual-test

2015-01-22 Thread istimsak
Hello everyone. It has been awhile since my last contribution to ubuntu 
QA. Trying to get back into testing feels like stepping into a whole 
new world again. Questions I will ask and things I will do might seem a 
bit newbish to you. This happens when I lack effort.


I was in the process of testing vino and remmina as these two packages 
are in need of testcases. Since I have never used these packages, I 
needed to test them to get a feel for how they worked at the basic 
level.


Vino turned out to be a bit confusing. I learned this is the default 
VNC server for ubuntu-gnome. I an not using ubuntu gnome, don't have 
the hardware for it. I was testing it on my lubuntu laptop 14.04. 

The setup was not easy to configure or understand. It seems to be a 
server that must be executed from the command line. There was no man 
page for it. Online documentations were too brief and there are no 
other forms of configuration other than how a user connects to the 
server but not every attribute of the server, if this makes sense. 

During testing, I became more confused with this package. I filed a 
bug, not because it did not work, but because configuration 
documentation was limited. I wasn't sure what to do. Plus, I would 
think something installed by default should be simple for anyone to 
configure and use. 


What approach should I have taken?

Istimsak Abdulbasir
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