Re: KVM on a Cluster?

2010-02-10 Thread Sander van Vugt
Hi,

Yes, this is perfectly possible. I'm just finalizing a book on how to do
that trick with Xen machines. But from cluster perspective, it
absolutely doesn't matter which machine type to use. Look for the
following:

openais + pacemaker HA clustering
shared storage on a SAN, based on OCFS2 so that it is accessible by
multiple nodes simultaneously
enough RAM in all the host machines

HTH,
Sander

On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 11:09 -0800, Mat wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> The cluster stack found in the wiki[1] looks very promising and I'm 
> looking forward to testing it out. One thing I've been thinking about 
> lately and looking for online is the possibility of running a virtual 
> machine with KVM on top of a cluster.
> 
> Is it possible, or even practical to run an application like KVM on a 
> cluster? The reason driving me to think about this would be hardware 
> redundancy, and the ability to make "live" backups of a virtual machine 
> by isolating it from the others (a script that temporarily disables the 
> network?) and shutting it down for a snapshot.
> 
> Unfortunately, I have very little practical knowledge and experience 
> when it comes to clusters, so please feel free to enlighten me if I'm 
> proposing something crazy.
> 
> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClusterStack/LucidTesting
> 
> Thanks.
> matoc
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KVM on a Cluster?

2010-02-10 Thread Mat
Hello,

The cluster stack found in the wiki[1] looks very promising and I'm 
looking forward to testing it out. One thing I've been thinking about 
lately and looking for online is the possibility of running a virtual 
machine with KVM on top of a cluster.

Is it possible, or even practical to run an application like KVM on a 
cluster? The reason driving me to think about this would be hardware 
redundancy, and the ability to make "live" backups of a virtual machine 
by isolating it from the others (a script that temporarily disables the 
network?) and shutting it down for a snapshot.

Unfortunately, I have very little practical knowledge and experience 
when it comes to clusters, so please feel free to enlighten me if I'm 
proposing something crazy.

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClusterStack/LucidTesting

Thanks.
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Re: RFC: redhat-cluster-suite demotion to universe

2010-02-10 Thread Mathias Gug
Hi Ante,

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 06:03:10PM +0100, Ante Karamatić wrote:
> On 10.02.2010 17:26, Mathias Gug wrote:
> 
> >If I understand correctly the following rhcs binary packages (GFS +
> >DLM) should be kept in main for the new cluster stack:
> 
> This looks OK, but please wait till I create new rhcs packages with
> different package deps. gfs-tools is removed upstream, so I removed
> it from packages too.
>

Please make sure that only the bits relevant to main are in binary packages so
that most of the other packages can be demoted to universe.

Also note that main promotion can be done *after* Feature Freeze. It seems that
the critical point here is to have all the new packages in universe by Feature
Freeze.

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Re: dmidecode

2010-02-10 Thread Wes Hardin
On 02/10/2010 10:02 AM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> I was interested in "How much Max Memory my san Box running Ubuntu
> Server 8.04 supports" using dmidecode ? is that possible to find out
> without consulting the manufacturer ?

I use a tool called memconf which gives this information.

You can get memconf from

http://www.4schmidts.com/unix.html

It gives output like this:

hostname: manhack
Hewlett-Packard HP Z600 Workstation (2 X Intel(R) Xeon(R) E5520 @ 2.27GHz)
Memory Error Correction: Multi-bit ECC
Maximum Memory: 24576MB (24GB)
CPU0 DIMM1: 2048MB 1333MHz (0.8ns) Synchronous DIMM, Hynix Semiconductor 
(Hyundai Electronics) HMT125U7AFP8C-H9
CPU0 DIMM2: 2048MB 1333MHz (0.8ns) Synchronous DIMM, Hynix Semiconductor 
(Hyundai Electronics) HMT125U7AFP8C-H9
CPU0 DIMM3: 2048MB 1333MHz (0.8ns) Synchronous DIMM, Hynix Semiconductor 
(Hyundai Electronics) HMT125U7AFP8C-H9
CPU1 DIMM1: 2048MB 1333MHz (0.8ns) Synchronous DIMM, Hynix Semiconductor 
(Hyundai Electronics) HMT125U7AFP8C-H9
CPU1 DIMM2: 2048MB 1333MHz (0.8ns) Synchronous DIMM, Hynix Semiconductor 
(Hyundai Electronics) HMT125U7AFP8C-H9
CPU1 DIMM3: 2048MB 1333MHz (0.8ns) Synchronous DIMM, Hynix Semiconductor 
(Hyundai Electronics) HMT125U7AFP8C-H9
empty memory sockets: None
total memory = 12288MB (12GB)

It also has a verbose mode which gives basic OS info (distro, arch, kernel).  
It 
puts all relevant information I typically need in one easily human digestable 
format, so I hardly use other utilities anymore.

I've used it on Solaris and Linux for a long time.  Not entirely sure how it 
gets this information, but it's written in perl, so you should be able to dig 
out it's methodology.  It appears to be using dmidecode though, so if you still 
wanted just plain dmidecode, it appears you probably can do that.

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Re: RFC: redhat-cluster-suite demotion to universe

2010-02-10 Thread Mathias Gug
Hi Ante,

2010/2/7 Ante Karamatić :
> On 07.02.2010 19:01, Mathias Gug wrote:
>
>> I had a discussion with Fabio, the upstream redhat-cluster-suite
>> maintainer, and it seems that the stack corosync+openais+pacemaker is
>> not feature equivalent with the current redhat-cluster-suite.
>
> Btw, pacemaker supports GFS2 and with RHCS 3.0.7 one can create and
> mount GFS2 file systems.

If I understand correctly the following rhcs binary packages (GFS +
DLM) should be kept in main for the new cluster stack:

gfs-tools
global file system tools
gfs2-tools
global file system 2 tools (EXPERIMENTAL)

libdlm-dev
distributed lock manager - development files
libdlm3
distributed lock manager - library
libdlmcontrol-dev
distributed lock manager - development files
libdlmcontrol3
distributed lock manager - library

All the other ones can be dropped to universe:

cman
cluster manager
libccs-dev
cluster manager - development files
libccs-perl
Perl module for using the libccs2 library
libccs3
cluster configuration - libraries
libcman-dev
cluster manager - development files
libcman3
cluster manager - libraries
libfence-dev
fenced - development files
libfence4
fence client - library
liblogthread-dev
cluster logging - development files
liblogthread3
cluster logging - libraries
redhat-cluster-source
Red Hat cluster suite - kernel module source
redhat-cluster-suite
Red Hat cluster suite (metapackage)
rgmanager
clustered resource group manager

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Re: dmidecode

2010-02-10 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Kaushal Shriyan
 wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Aurélien Naldi
>  wrote:
 Hi,

 depending on the ubuntu version, it may be called -server or -pae
 BTW, if you are running a 64bit install, it should just work with the
 default kernel (AFAIK).

 I'm not familiar with dmidecode output, but it is supposed to be about
 hardware capabilities, not software ones. Are you sure this is the
 global limit of the system and not the capacity of a single memory
 slot ?

>>>
>>> free -m
>>>             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
>>> Mem:          8001       7955         45          0          0       7812
>>> -/+ buffers/cache:        143       7857
>>> Swap:         4761         42       4719
>>>
>>> Please suggest.
>>
>> Not much to add, you have 8GB of memory in the system, just as you should :)
>>
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>>
> Hi,
>
> I was interested in "How much Max Memory my san Box supports" using
> dmidecode ? is that possible to find out.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kaushal
>
Hi Again

Any updates for my query to this mailing list ?

I was interested in "How much Max Memory my san Box running Ubuntu
Server 8.04 supports" using dmidecode ? is that possible to find out
without consulting the manufacturer ?

Thanks and Regards

Kaushal

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Re: PHP 5.3 for Lucid

2010-02-10 Thread Eric Peters
The only thing that resembles a release schedule that I have ever
found is on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP#Release_history
from that info 5.2.0 and bellow are no longer supported and upstream
has not yet set a date for PHP 6.0

Cheers,
E

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Adam Conrad  wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 04:58:35PM -0500, Mathias Gug wrote:
>>
>> Do you have reference/link to where upstream states the support
>> lifetime of 5.3?
>
> Unless thing have changed since I was working on it, upstream never
> makes formal lifecycle commitments, but my experience from years of
> working on PHP in Debian, Ubuntu, and upstream is that significantly
> less effort goes into backporting and maintaining old branches after
> the current one is considered mature and widely-deployed.
>
> One can't say for sure how long 5.3.x will survive upstream before they
> release a 5.4 (or 6.0), but given the focus on 6.x, I would expect 5.3
> to survive a few years, at least.  Either way, it's going to live on
> with upstream support much longer than 5.2 will.
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-ha] Call for testing: cluster solutions for Ubuntu 10.04

2010-02-10 Thread Boris Devouge
Ante Karamatić wrote:
> Pacemaker in ubuntu-ha PPA for Lucid now support both OCFS2 and GFS2. 
> Give it a try:
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClusterStack/LucidTesting
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  Thank you very much for all that work. I am currently deploying 2 
lucid nodes and intend to test. Hopefully will report before end of week.

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Re: PHP 5.3 for Lucid

2010-02-10 Thread Emmet Hikory
Kees Cook wrote:
> Mathias Gug wrote:
>> Right. There are a couple of php packages (drupal, joomla, etc...)
>> currently in Lucid that are not working with 5.3. These would have to
>> be ported to 5.3 before we release.
>
> Joomla isn't in Ubuntu, and drupal (universe) should not block php (main).

I thought the fridge used drupal.  While I generally agree that we
shouldn't block a transitoin based on one stubborn package, I'd hope
we'd be able to upgrade our shared infrastructure to the next LTS
without needing to deploy an entirely new platform.  I agree entirely
about joomla, but someone ought port drupal prior to release if the
transition goes ahead.

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Re: PHP 5.3 for Lucid

2010-02-10 Thread Adam Conrad
On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 04:58:35PM -0500, Mathias Gug wrote:
> 
> Do you have reference/link to where upstream states the support
> lifetime of 5.3?

Unless thing have changed since I was working on it, upstream never
makes formal lifecycle commitments, but my experience from years of
working on PHP in Debian, Ubuntu, and upstream is that significantly
less effort goes into backporting and maintaining old branches after
the current one is considered mature and widely-deployed.

One can't say for sure how long 5.3.x will survive upstream before they
release a 5.4 (or 6.0), but given the focus on 6.x, I would expect 5.3
to survive a few years, at least.  Either way, it's going to live on
with upstream support much longer than 5.2 will.

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Re: Call for testing: cluster solutions for Ubuntu 10.04

2010-02-10 Thread Ante Karamatić
Pacemaker in ubuntu-ha PPA for Lucid now support both OCFS2 and GFS2. 
Give it a try:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClusterStack/LucidTesting

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Re: dmidecode

2010-02-10 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Aurélien Naldi
 wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> depending on the ubuntu version, it may be called -server or -pae
>>> BTW, if you are running a 64bit install, it should just work with the
>>> default kernel (AFAIK).
>>>
>>> I'm not familiar with dmidecode output, but it is supposed to be about
>>> hardware capabilities, not software ones. Are you sure this is the
>>> global limit of the system and not the capacity of a single memory
>>> slot ?
>>>
>>
>> free -m
>>             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
>> Mem:          8001       7955         45          0          0       7812
>> -/+ buffers/cache:        143       7857
>> Swap:         4761         42       4719
>>
>> Please suggest.
>
> Not much to add, you have 8GB of memory in the system, just as you should :)
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Hi,

I was interested in "How much Max Memory my san Box supports" using
dmidecode ? is that possible to find out.

Thanks,

Kaushal

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Re: dmidecode

2010-02-10 Thread Aurélien Naldi
>> Hi,
>>
>> depending on the ubuntu version, it may be called -server or -pae
>> BTW, if you are running a 64bit install, it should just work with the
>> default kernel (AFAIK).
>>
>> I'm not familiar with dmidecode output, but it is supposed to be about
>> hardware capabilities, not software ones. Are you sure this is the
>> global limit of the system and not the capacity of a single memory
>> slot ?
>>
>
> free -m
>             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
> Mem:          8001       7955         45          0          0       7812
> -/+ buffers/cache:        143       7857
> Swap:         4761         42       4719
>
> Please suggest.

Not much to add, you have 8GB of memory in the system, just as you should :)

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Re: dmidecode

2010-02-10 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Aurélien Naldi
 wrote:
>> r...@hostii3:~:~# apt-get install linux-image-bigmem
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> E: Couldn't find package linux-image-bigmem
>> r...@hostii3:~:~# apt-cache search bigmem
>> r...@hostii3:~:~#
>>
>> Please suggest.
>
>
> Hi,
>
> depending on the ubuntu version, it may be called -server or -pae
> BTW, if you are running a 64bit install, it should just work with the
> default kernel (AFAIK).
>
> I'm not familiar with dmidecode output, but it is supposed to be about
> hardware capabilities, not software ones. Are you sure this is the
> global limit of the system and not the capacity of a single memory
> slot ?
>

free -m
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:  8001   7955 45  0  0   7812
-/+ buffers/cache:143   7857
Swap: 4761 42   4719

Please suggest.

Thanks,

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Re: dmidecode

2010-02-10 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Tim Slot  wrote:
> Hi Kaushal,
>
> try;
>
> apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r`-bigmem
> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`-bigmem
>
> and reboot from this kernel.
>
Hi Tom,

I did the below suggestion.

r...@hostii3:~# apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r`-bigmem
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6.24-16-generic-bigmem
r...@hostii3:~:~# uname -r
2.6.24-16-generic
r...@hostii3:~:~# getconf LONG_BIT
64
r...@hostii3:~:~# apt-get install linux-image-bigmem
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package linux-image-bigmem
r...@hostii3:~:~# apt-cache search bigmem
r...@hostii3:~:~#

Please suggest.

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dmidecode

2010-02-10 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
Hi,

i have a issue about Maximum Capacity: 4 GB while running
dmidecode,but the actual memory is 8GB on san box.

Thanks and Regards,

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Opennebula in lucid ?

2010-02-10 Thread Nikolai K. Bochev
I see that open nebula is still version 1.2 in lucid, are there plans to 
include their 1.4 release ? 
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