Re: Server Support

2010-05-25 Thread Nigel Jones
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Scott Kitterman  wrote:
> One of the work items listed in:
>
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-maverick-community
>
> is now:
>
> + ubuntu-server IRC channel: both support and devel. Change the topic to
> + remove Support.
>
>
> If we are going to drop support from the topic of #ubuntu-server, what is the
> plan to support the server community on IRC?  In my experience server people
> require a different kind of support than desktop users and so I don't think
> tossing server support into #ubuntu is the right answer.
>
Surely it should be the other way round, drop Devel from
#ubuntu-server and create #ubuntu-server-devel.

My 2c.

- Nigel

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Re: Server Support

2010-05-25 Thread Jim Tarvid
Some disaggregation of the IRC channels is in order. #ubuntu is bad for your
mental health. As one with the Gerald Ford syndrome (I can't walk and chew
gum at the same time), I simply can't keep the threads sorted out.

#ubuntu-server at 1/6th the size of #ubuntu is more intelligible but even
then, some threads are beyond my cognitive ability. I presume the authors
have some purpose in posting but the posts themselves defy comprehension.

How about #ubuntu-server-panic for those times when a formerly working
server is broken; #ubuntu-server-support for help in adding new features;
#ubuntu-server-lounge for general bs.

I read
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-maverick-communitythree
times before it started to make some sense. Maybe I am getting old and
the bloom is off the rose. The most fun I have had lately is playing with
the Google App Engine (python). "Development" of neo-plastic embolisms is
not healthy for an organism.

Jim



On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:

> One of the work items listed in:
>
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-maverick-community
>
> is now:
>
> + ubuntu-server IRC channel: both support and devel. Change the topic to
> + remove Support.
>
>
> If we are going to drop support from the topic of #ubuntu-server, what is
> the
> plan to support the server community on IRC?  In my experience server
> people
> require a different kind of support than desktop users and so I don't think
> tossing server support into #ubuntu is the right answer.
>
> Scott K
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Re: Server Support

2010-05-25 Thread dxiri343
I second to that 
--Mensaje original--
De: Scott Kitterman
Remitente:ubuntu-server-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com
Para:ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com
Asunto: Server Support
Enviado: 25 May, 2010 20:54

One of the work items listed in:

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-maverick-community

is now:

+ ubuntu-server IRC channel: both support and devel. Change the topic to
+ remove Support.


If we are going to drop support from the topic of #ubuntu-server, what is the 
plan to support the server community on IRC?  In my experience server people 
require a different kind of support than desktop users and so I don't think 
tossing server support into #ubuntu is the right answer.

Scott K

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Server Support

2010-05-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
One of the work items listed in:

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-maverick-community

is now:

+ ubuntu-server IRC channel: both support and devel. Change the topic to
+ remove Support.


If we are going to drop support from the topic of #ubuntu-server, what is the 
plan to support the server community on IRC?  In my experience server people 
require a different kind of support than desktop users and so I don't think 
tossing server support into #ubuntu is the right answer.

Scott K

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Re: some services don't bind to socket during boot

2010-05-25 Thread Ante Karamatić
On 21.05.2010 10:17, Leander Janssen wrote:

> Another detail is that I'm using multiple ip addresses on the same
> network interface. And that I'm using a bridge configuration to host
> some kvm guests. I've attached a copy of my /etc/network/interfaces.

I have a feeling this is related to upstart, and not apparmor. bridged 
interfaces are up after the service is started. So if service is started 
before designated IP is up, it will fail to start. That would explain 
why those same services work after manual restart.

We have this same problem with corosync :/

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Re: some services don't bind to socket during boot

2010-05-25 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 12:21 -0500, Alejandro Leyva wrote:
> And also
> we have serious issues with VM's under KVM, the main problem seems to
> be something about AppArmor.

If you could review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApparmor and, if
appropriate, file a bug in
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+filebug this will
allow developers to take a look at your problem.

Thanks

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