Re: Performance Benchmarking

2006-07-10 Thread Ivan Krstic
David Abrahams wrote:
> some package I can use to measure disk, cpu, fpu, etc. performance?

stress(1) for I/O, CPU, VM, disk; iperf(1) for network.

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Re: Ubuntu a poor choice for servers

2006-07-09 Thread Ivan Krstic
David Abrahams wrote:
> Dapper (and Breezy for that matter) installation doesn't support LVM
> well; it's almost as though it was untested.  Try to set up a system
> with LVM from any of the different installation discs, and you'll see
> what I mean.

I've done so many times with the various Flights, and never had trouble.
 I haven't tried the final CD, but would be surprised if such a severe
regression was present.

> Dapper installation doesn't support LVM over software raid *at all*,
> even though it purports to. 

Likewise with this.

> Dapper installation supports LVM over FakeRaid *even less*.

It's not supposed to. Edgy should have dm-fakeraid and dm-crypt support
in the installer, if all goes well.

I have some servers to install tomorrow night, so I'll test this again.
In the (surprising and reasonably unlikely) event that RAID and LVM
support is actually broken in d-i, we'll certainly try to provide fixes
in the next point release.

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Re: vt8251 support

2006-06-26 Thread Ivan Krstic
Chris Jones wrote:
> See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperPointReleaseProcess

I should have been more specific. I was there for the PointRelease BoF,
but was addressing the OP's request for immediately updated ISOs that
resolve his bug, which won't happen.

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Re: [OT] Reply address

2006-06-25 Thread Ivan Krstic
Mike Noordermeer wrote:
> Why exactly isn't a Reply-To header pointing to the list? 

Because not munging Reply-To is the default mailman setting, and we
haven't bothered changing it, since there's usually no reason to.

 http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

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Re: vt8251 support

2006-06-25 Thread Ivan Krstic
Jacobo Arvelo "UNIX4ALL" wrote:
> Sorry, the reply field points to you, not to the list.

It's common understanding that list discussions are to be kept on-list,
unless when there's pressing reason to do otherwise.

> Where I can get a beta ISO of dapper?

A ten-second google: http://ubuntu.hugi.is/releases/6.06/

> Great Support ...

We provide great security support. You, however, are making an
unreasonable request and being immature about it. The release has been
made. All developer effort is focused on the next one, except for
security updates. This has always been the case.

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Re: vt8251 support

2006-06-25 Thread Ivan Krstic
For the second time, I'm asking people NOT to send me personal replies
to list mail!

Jacobo Arvelo "UNIX4ALL" wrote:
> Ok and the solution is ? this isn't a special circumstance ?

No, it's not. You have three options: run one of the older kernels
without upgrading (security risk), roll your own vanilla kernel, or wait
until Edgy is released.

> Im not the only with this problem, look at ubuntuforums for example,

That doesn't change anything, unfortunately.

> Fixing the patch in the kernel and updating it isnt a hardwork ( at
> least for the ubuntu kernel hackers)

The release is frozen. No further work is, or will be, done on Dapper
except fixing security bugs.

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Re: vt8251 support

2006-06-25 Thread Ivan Krstic
Jacobo Arvelo "UNIX4ALL" wrote:
> please deliver patched isos

The Dapper ISO images are frozen; they will not be updated unless
required by special circumstances.

> ( maybe in the daily dapper drake server isos ? )

These are equally frozen.

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[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: What's the min spec for Dapper server?]]

2006-06-23 Thread Ivan Krstic
This is the second message that was sent to me personally as a reply to
list mail. Like the one a few hours ago, I'm forwarding it to the list.

Please don't send personal replies to list mail.


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: What's the min spec for Dapper server?]
From: Francesco Lodolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Ivan Krstic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Liam Proven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [2] Thanks for the tip, but it is just a tip, rather than actual
> guidance. How do I actually go about changing the kernel of a
> not-yet-fully installed system? Presumably I must pass some option to
> the setup program, but pressing the options function key on the boot
> screen merely shows me the command line that will be executed by GRUB.
> I see no mention of how to change the kernel to be installed.

https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/48266
Try with the third comment

Francesco.

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[Fwd: Re: What's the min spec for Dapper server?]

2006-06-22 Thread Ivan Krstic
 Original Message 
Subject: Re: What's the min spec for Dapper server?
From: Liam Proven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Ivan Krstic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On 6/15/06, Ivan Krstic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The server kernel is i686 only. There's a non-server i386 kernel that
> you can use; if it works, you can then roll your own server kernel
> package that's built for i386.

All right. Thanks.

A couple of things:

[1] Do you not think it might have been wise to actually /mention/
this, in the setup program at the very least? This is a major change
in hardware requirements since 5.10 which works fine on the same
hardware.

[2] Thanks for the tip, but it is just a tip, rather than actual
guidance. How do I actually go about changing the kernel of a
not-yet-fully installed system? Presumably I must pass some option to
the setup program, but pressing the options function key on the boot
screen merely shows me the command line that will be executed by GRUB.
I see no mention of how to change the kernel to be installed.

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Re: What's the min spec for Dapper server?

2006-06-14 Thread Ivan Krstic
Liam Proven wrote:
> Does 6.06 make assumptions about a minimum hardware platform? Is there
> a choice of kernels, e.g. one for 586-level hardware?

The server kernel is i686 only. There's a non-server i386 kernel that
you can use; if it works, you can then roll your own server kernel
package that's built for i386.

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Re: what kernel package?

2006-05-18 Thread Ivan Krstic
Carl Karsten wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
> Linux tsp2 2.6.15-21-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Apr 21 16:43:33 UTC 2006 i686

That's the desktop kernel. The default installed by the u-s CD should
have been set to the server kernel a while back. I'll see what's going
on; you should be using linux-image-server and linux-headers-server.

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Re: Fleshing out in the etc-in-svn spec

2006-05-18 Thread Ivan Krstic
Andrew Beresford wrote:
> I've been looking at the etc-in-svn spec in launchpad (although I've
> rather taken in the etc-in-bzr approach) 

When we considered this for Dapper, it was certainly with bzr in mind;
SVN wasn't on the table, so etc-in-svn is a misnomer. This was
originally a part of the Dapper server-candy spec.

> So far I have drafted some stuff our on the wiki at
> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VersionControlledEtc 

Good start, thanks for writing it up. I think there have been several
proposals to implement this through the Summer of Code program, but if
it doesn't get done that way, it'll likely be high up on the Server
Team's list for Edgy.

People with other server-related ideas should post about them on the
ubuntu-server list or approach me on IRC, so Adam and I can discuss them
at UFK. Specifications are strongly encouraged, but not strictly necessary.

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Re: SMFication Project registered + proposal

2006-04-14 Thread Ivan Krstic

Erast Benson wrote:

SMF adoption by Ubuntu could be in benefit for both distributions.
I'm looking for people who would be interested in such a work, i.e.
Ubuntu port of SMF service manager and SMFication of existing Ubuntu
packages. 


As I've said several times on this list, SMF seems to me like the best 
solution to system service management out there at the moment, and one 
that Ubuntu should have. This would make a great project for hackers 
looking for their claim to Ubuntu fame. So, want to get involved? Get in 
touch with Erast, and let's get the ball rolling.


(Cross-posting to ubuntu-server, where there might also be interest.)

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Re: lynx on server install cd

2006-04-08 Thread Ivan Krstic

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

anyway long story short. please, please please with sugar on top
include lynx on the server install cd.


Will be done.

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Re: Is ubuntu Operating System free for server?

2006-04-08 Thread Ivan Krstic

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I want to know is ubuntu Operating System free for enterprise server also?


Yes, it is. There is no non-free version of Ubuntu, both in the freedom 
and the cost sense; this is part of the Ubuntu commitment.


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