Re: Karmic for Sparc
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:18 AM, katre50 wrote: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:11 PM, John Cater wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:29 AM, John Cater wrote: >>> >>> $ sudo do-release-upgrade -d >>> >>> Unfortunately, the release upgrade to karmic failed, after not being able >>> to find a lot of packages. I've attached the full log from >>> do-release-upgrade and the VM's sources.list if that helps debugging. >>> >> >> And once I added in universe and multiverse the upgrade is proceeding. >> I'll report on how SILO behaves shortly. I'm not sure what missing >> dependency caused this, but is it a bug worth tracking down? >> > > And to reply to myself yet again, the upgrade failed out. Not sure what's > going on, I might need to wait for a more stable milestone before I can try > this again. > > katre > Bug on upstart filed: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/436758. Feel free to confirm the bug if you can reproduce (which based off your comments you can). > > -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Karmic for Sparc
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:42 AM, John Cater wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Michael Casadevall > wrote: >> >> I can reproduce on my Sunfire. I think SILO broke when it was migrated >> to GCC 4.4. Unfortunately, this freaking antique can't netboot, which >> means its a PITA to spin a new image with a different SILO to config. >> > > I have netboot and am happy to test builds. Unfortunately I have no idea how > to make a new build myself (but I'd be happy to learn if it'll help). > > katre > > Well, as a further data point, I can get recent SILOs to start my machine (they panic in upstart), so it seems only netboot and/or cdrom based boots are hosed. John: on an installed system, does the latest karmic render your machine unbootable on SPARC? Michael > -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Karmic for Sparc
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:05 PM, John Cater wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Michael Casadevall
> wrote:
>>
>> Netboot:
>> http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/karmic/main/installer-sparc/current/images/netboot/
>>
>
> I just attempted to boot the netboot image on a VM on my SunFire T1000 (with
> four CPUs and 1GB of memory).
>
> I get this error:
>
> {0} ok boot net:dhcp,192.168.0.12,ubuntu-karmic-boot-sparc.img
> debconf/priority=low
> preseed/url=http://www.henchmonkey.org/ubuntu-server.seed
> Boot device:
> /virtual-devi...@100/channel-devi...@200/netw...@0:dhcp,192.168.0.12,ubuntu-karmic-boot-sparc.img
> File and args: debconf/priority=low
> preseed/url=http://www.henchmonkey.org/ubuntu-server.seed
> ERROR: /packages/obp-tftp: Last Trap: Fast Data Access MMU Miss
>
> I'm not entirely sure what this means. Is there any further debugging I can
> do to find the source of the problem?
>
I can reproduce on my Sunfire. I think SILO broke when it was migrated
to GCC 4.4. Unfortunately, this freaking antique can't netboot, which
means its a PITA to spin a new image with a different SILO to config.
> Thanks,
> katre
>
>
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Re: Karmic for Sparc
Just a followup to previous emails, d-i netboot and server CDs are building again (my patch to silo was uploaded yesterday): Netboot: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/karmic/main/installer-sparc/current/images/netboot/ CD: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/ports/daily/current/ I haven't tested these at all yet. As it stands, I've seen issues booting the latest karmic upstart on sparc. If anyone else can reproduce (it causes a panic at start with init exploding), I'd be glad to assist with debugging, but I don't have too much time to run this down on my own. Michael On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Michael Casadevall wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:17 PM, John Cater wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Scott Kitterman >> wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:35:58 -0400 John Cater wrote: >>> ... >>> >feisty, gutsy - I still have the netboot images but with no archive, they >>> >can't be installed >>> ... >>> >>> These archives can still be found at old-releases.ubuntu.com. No idea how >>> or if you can point your netboot there. >>> >> >> Thanks, with a bit of work I found the "enter information manually" for >> setting up the repository. >> >> Gutsy installs properly (it starts, it can see and use the virtual disks, >> and the system then starts). Thanks for helping me get something on my >> system (even if I then have to upgrade through three more releases). >> >> katre >> > > I assume you need relatively modern SPARC hardware for this > configuration, no? (my main sparc is a sunfire v120), so I don't think > I can test. > > On an related sidenote, I cooked up > https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/silo/+bug/431106 which > should fix karmic d-i, and the d-i hangs while trying to install silo > bug (I haven't been able to test if this actually fixes d-i, but it > should). > Michael > > PS: Its nice to see there is a pretty lively Ubuntu SPARC userbase :-) > -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Karmic for Sparc
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:17 PM, John Cater wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Scott Kitterman > wrote: >> >> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:35:58 -0400 John Cater wrote: >> ... >> >feisty, gutsy - I still have the netboot images but with no archive, they >> >can't be installed >> ... >> >> These archives can still be found at old-releases.ubuntu.com. No idea how >> or if you can point your netboot there. >> > > Thanks, with a bit of work I found the "enter information manually" for > setting up the repository. > > Gutsy installs properly (it starts, it can see and use the virtual disks, > and the system then starts). Thanks for helping me get something on my > system (even if I then have to upgrade through three more releases). > > katre > I assume you need relatively modern SPARC hardware for this configuration, no? (my main sparc is a sunfire v120), so I don't think I can test. On an related sidenote, I cooked up https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/silo/+bug/431106 which should fix karmic d-i, and the d-i hangs while trying to install silo bug (I haven't been able to test if this actually fixes d-i, but it should). Michael PS: Its nice to see there is a pretty lively Ubuntu SPARC userbase :-) -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Karmic for Sparc
Well, my goal for Karmic is to have working netboot, server cd, and alternate cds, although SPARC desktop has a big unsupported on it :-). (I'm also looking at the same for ia64, which needs kernel tweaking to get that working). I have some kernel tweaks I wanted to make (for instance, make the SMP kernel the default kernel and such), but I am going to have to do it for karmic+1. Michael On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:08 PM, John Cater wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Michael Casadevall > wrote: >> >> SPARC has had some kernel issues recently which should be resolved as >> of writing, but it is still a community-supported architecture. silo >> at the moment is broken though causing d-i to FTBFS, and the >> installation to bomb out, its been on my TODO list to look at this for >> awhile, but I have no ETA on when that might be. >> > > Thanks. If you need any help testing I'd be happy to make a new VM to try > something in. > >> >> At the moment, the best way to install is to use a Dapper or Hardy >> (depending on your machine, I had to use Dapper's installer to get my >> SunFire to install, but Hardy's installer should work), then upgrade >> to the desired release. Jaunty's netboot installer may also work, but >> I haven't personally tested it. > > This is what I have been doing. I just tried the Jaunty netboot image, which > erfuses to start (with a fast trap MMC error I didn't copy). I also tried > Intrepid, and it will start, but the sunvdc module that comes with it > appears not to handle the virtual disks in the VM. > > Thanks very much, > katre > > > -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Karmic for Sparc
SPARC has had some kernel issues recently which should be resolved as of writing, but it is still a community-supported architecture. silo at the moment is broken though causing d-i to FTBFS, and the installation to bomb out, its been on my TODO list to look at this for awhile, but I have no ETA on when that might be. At the moment, the best way to install is to use a Dapper or Hardy (depending on your machine, I had to use Dapper's installer to get my SunFire to install, but Hardy's installer should work), then upgrade to the desired release. Jaunty's netboot installer may also work, but I haven't personally tested it. Michael On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:45 AM, John Cater wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Matt Darcy > wrote: >> >> I trust you're not using a Cool thread cpu in that T1000 box >> > > I am, why? > > The base server is the Coolthread 32-core CPU, running OpenSolaris. I have > several VMs running Intrepid currently, and wanted to check how well Karmic > will run in a VM, except there's no installer available. > > katre > > > -- > ubuntu-server mailing list > ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server > More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam > -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: Creating a encrypted directory during the server installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've did some work implementing /dev/random in GNU Hurd (yes, yes, I know :-P). Static bootups are fairly constant, i.e., poor source of entropy, so that is a major problem. However, it might be possible to have the user provide or generate entropy (maybe a friendly message such as "Ubuntu needs to generate entropy to encrypt your files, please bang on the keyboard like a monkey"), or the ability to provide a private key from another source like a USB key or something. Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://getfiregpg.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjbB1wACgkQpblTBJ2i2psm4ACfcjq/0QyAV3PARKIgWmfNpdTy WKQAni0DPfLwUwW39PVklGZ32wCaS0do =TGV+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Kienan Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I was looking at the wikipedia article on /dev/random and /dev/urandom, > having previously not used them. The article linked to a paper that analyzed > the cryptographic procedures of the /dev/random and /dev/urandom in linux. > The main thing that I took out of paper and the wikipedia article was that > there was a small concern about the lack of entropy available in /dev/random > during installs and on livecds. If the key is generated right after a > reboot, they may not be sufficiently random. I'm not sure, but this could be > a thing to consider if keys are going to be generated early in the install > procedure. Would anyone else consider this a concern? > > P.S. Sorry if I sent this to someone twice, gmail only replies to the last > writer and not the list. My apologies. >> >> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Onno Benschop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> On 24/09/08 01:43, Dustin Kirkland wrote: >>> > That said, let me throw out another perhaps more controversial >>> > option... What if we didn't ask, and we just provided ~/Private >>> > encrypted by default? If unspecified, the mount passphrase is >>> > randomly generated from 128 bits of /dev/urandom. We can do that >>> > completely entirely and reliably without adding a screen to the >>> > installer, and provide the system administrator user a secure, >>> > encrypted location to drop critical data by default on any Ubuntu >>> > Server >>> When I saw the previous posts come past I wondered if this wasn't a >>> better option. Leading by example. >>> >>> I'm not familiar with how it's created, but could it be "built-in" as >>> you suggest and be created when an account is made as part of the >>> adduser process? >>> >>> Could the (initial) pass-phrase be the user's login password? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Onno Benschop >>> >>> Connected via Optus B3 at S31°54'06" - E115°50'39" (Yokine, WA) >>> -- >>> ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. >>> |>>?..EBCDIC for Onno.. >>> --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. >>> >>> ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ubuntu-server mailing list >>> ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server >>> More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam >> > > > -- > ubuntu-server mailing list > ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server > More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam > -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: SSLv2 - do we really need it?
Well, if a user has both Universe and Main enabled, if we have a openssl-sslv2, which is the same package expect with SSLv2 compiled in, all it needs is a Replaces/Conflicts/Provides which removes the sslv3-only package. That way, any users who need it (and those who need likely already know) are simply an aptitiude command away from having the necessary support. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Ante Karamatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:22:13 -0500 > "Dustin Kirkland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And as soon as we get to the point where no packages depend on that, > > we remove it? > > Our packages shouldn't be the problem (I doubt we have sslv2-only > clients or servers). If there are problematic packages, then by > definition those problems are bugs. > > Problems are third party packages, like XYZ IMAP client from ABCD > company which supports only SSLv2 (I'm not aware of any program like > that, but you get my point). For sysadmins of servers which have > clients like that, openssl with SSLv2 is must have. > > I like the idea of additional package in universe. But how much > problems could that produce? > > -- > ubuntu-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel > -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
