Re: Ubuntu Server hardware requirements...

2011-03-31 Thread Alejandro Leyva
My 2 cents:

We have some VM's that use only 128MB, they are in production and are
part of a large deployment.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Ken Hansen  wrote:
> Just my $0.02 worth (in line comments):
>
> On Mar 31, 2011, at 3:43 AM, Clint Byrum  wrote:
>
>> * 128MB of system memory (RAM)
>
> While 128 Meg of RAM is tight for a standard install, I can easily imagine a 
> VM running in that small amount of RAM (what is it called now, a 'minimal' 
> install of Ubuntu Server could probably run fine with 128 Meg).
>

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Re: Ubuntu Server hardware requirements...

2011-03-31 Thread Dustin Kirkland
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Clint Byrum  wrote:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
>
> This states the following requirements for running Ubuntu Server:
>
>  * 300 MHz x86 processor
>  * 128MB of system memory (RAM)
>  * 1GB of disk space
>  * Graphics card and monitor capable of 640x480
>  * CD-ROM drive
>
> The first one is somewhat funny, as I think there were only a few early
> Pentium II's and PentiumPro's that ran at 300Mhz. Since we dropped i586
> support in Maverick, might we also think about raising this to say,
> 450Mhz ?
>
> Also while there are things one can do w/ 128MB of RAM on Ubuntu
> Server.. is it a realistic minimum?
>
> Do we actually require a graphics card? If you are clever you can get
> the alternative installer to install via serial console IIRC.

Correct.  For reference I was able to install Natty just now in a KVM
with no VGA with the following:

kvm -cdrom natty-server-amd64.iso -kernel vmlinuz -initrd initrd.gz
--append "console=ttyS0 priority=critical locale=en_US
url=http://bit.ly/uquick"; -vga none -serial stdio

Note that I loop mounted the iso to extract vmlinuz and initrd.gz,
which are required if you use kvm's --append.  If you haven't done
this before, running the Ubuntu Installer in a virtual machine on a
command line over SSH is kind of fun :-)

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Re: Ubuntu Server hardware requirements...

2011-03-31 Thread Ken Hansen
Just my $0.02 worth (in line comments):

On Mar 31, 2011, at 3:43 AM, Clint Byrum  wrote:

> This states the following requirements for running Ubuntu Server:
> 
> * 300 MHz x86 processor

The requirement of 300 MHz has more to do with providing a backhand way of 
indicating a generation of processor - it may be prudent to reword this to say 
"Pentium II processor or compatible"

> * 128MB of system memory (RAM)

While 128 Meg of RAM is tight for a standard install, I can easily imagine a VM 
running in that small amount of RAM (what is it called now, a 'minimal' install 
of Ubuntu Server could probably run fine with 128 Meg). 

> * 1GB of disk space

The install media fits on a CD-R, so a 1 gig footprint for the OS seems right 
(user requirements would certainly add to that, but the 'requirement' is for 
the OS only)

> * Graphics card and monitor capable of 640x480

Serial consoles may be an option, but they are far from mainstream, maybe it 
would make sense to add ", or a previously configured serial console"

Also, as a question, is the 640x480 a hard coded requirement, or can the 
installer handle lower resolutions?

> * CD-ROM drive

As others have noted, a CD-ROM is not a requirement, maybe add words to the 
effect " or other compatible way to load the OS, USB key, PXE NetBoot, etc."

A hardware requirement means something is "required to function", not makes for 
a 'comfortable user experience' - that is why many OS vendors describe both a 
set of system requirements and a recommended system configuration.

Anyway, that's my two cents worth...

Ken
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Re: Ubuntu Server hardware requirements...

2011-03-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
Clint Byrum  wrote:

>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
>
>This states the following requirements for running Ubuntu Server:
>
> * 300 MHz x86 processor
> * 128MB of system memory (RAM)
> * 1GB of disk space
> * Graphics card and monitor capable of 640x480
> * CD-ROM drive
>
>The first one is somewhat funny, as I think there were only a few early
>Pentium II's and PentiumPro's that ran at 300Mhz. Since we dropped i586
>support in Maverick, might we also think about raising this to say,
>450Mhz ?
>
>Also while there are things one can do w/ 128MB of RAM on Ubuntu
>Server.. is it a realistic minimum?
>
>Do we actually require a graphics card? If you are clever you can get
>the alternative installer to install via serial console IIRC.
>
CDROM is definitely not required.

Scott K


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Re: Ubuntu Server hardware requirements...

2011-03-31 Thread Carsten Aulbert
Hi

I'm just an (ex-) user of ubuntu-server, but

On Thursday 31 March 2011 09:43:33 Clint Byrum wrote:
> Also while there are things one can do w/ 128MB of RAM on Ubuntu
> Server.. is it a realistic minimum?
> 
Think about running ubuntu server in a VM along with many others, if it fits 
into 128MB it's great!

> Do we actually require a graphics card? If you are clever you can get
> the alternative installer to install via serial console IIRC.

Also CD-ROM drive required? PXE and USB are certainly possible when you don't 
have a drive, right?

Cheers

Carsten

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Ubuntu Server hardware requirements...

2011-03-31 Thread Clint Byrum
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements

This states the following requirements for running Ubuntu Server:

 * 300 MHz x86 processor
 * 128MB of system memory (RAM)
 * 1GB of disk space
 * Graphics card and monitor capable of 640x480
 * CD-ROM drive

The first one is somewhat funny, as I think there were only a few early
Pentium II's and PentiumPro's that ran at 300Mhz. Since we dropped i586
support in Maverick, might we also think about raising this to say,
450Mhz ?

Also while there are things one can do w/ 128MB of RAM on Ubuntu
Server.. is it a realistic minimum?

Do we actually require a graphics card? If you are clever you can get
the alternative installer to install via serial console IIRC.

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