[Bug 1247803] Re: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time
hello maybe this will will serve http://www.lampnode.com/linux/howto-setup-nameserver-on-ubuntu-1404-by-resolvconf/ regards -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dnsmasq in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1247803 Title: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/1247803/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1247803] Re: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time
This likely needs to go into an SRU for Precise and get fixed in Trusty and Utopic. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dnsmasq in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1247803 Title: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/1247803/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1247803] Re: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time
** Branch linked: lp:~philip-g-potter/dnsmasq/conditionally-update- resolvconf -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dnsmasq in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1247803 Title: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/1247803/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1247803] Re: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time
Thanks for your reply, Thomas. I now agree that it is the maintainer's choice as to which of the proposed implementations should be used. I've made a separate branch with the more complex conditional and attached it to this ticket. What's the next step? I'm new to the whole ubuntu package maintenance process. I see Simon Kelley is listed as the maintainer -- is it up to him to choose one of the proposed solutions? Also, I've based my patches off of the precise branch, because that's the distro I use most frequently. Is that sensible? Should I have based it off of trusty instead and backported later? Should I attach a patch file instead? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dnsmasq in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1247803 Title: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/1247803/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1247803] Re: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time
We certainly don't want to run resolvconf -u too few times. That is the bug. It causes no logical malfunction to run resolvconf -u too many times, but doing so is not efficient. When a resolvconf update occurs then all the scripts in /etc/resolvconf/update.d/ get run. If a heavy update script is present (one that copies files, reconfigures things and/or restarts services, etc.) then the update can take a significant amount of time. In that case it's bad to do an extra, unnecessary update. And I think it's ugly to do two updates in a row if one is sufficient. The proposed conditional only suppresses running resolvconf -u if ENABLED=1 and resolvconf is not being used (ie IGNORE_RESOLVCONF=yes). Is this really such a common case that adding complexity to get the minor optimization of not running resolvconf -u is worth it? You have a point there. Perhaps it is, perhaps it is not worth the added code complexity in the postinst. The maintainer will be the judge. Also, doesn't your argument about ENABLED=0 later being changed to ENABLED=1 also apply to IGNORE_RESOLVCONF=yes later being changed to IGNORE_RESOLVCONF=no? No, I don't think it applies. In the ENABLED=0 case, resolvconf doesn't get run by the dnsmasq initscript. So unless the postinst does resolvconf -u there is nothing to ensure that if dnsmasq is later restarted with ENABLED=1 and IGNORE_RESOLVCONF=no then /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf will have been written. In the ENABLED=1 IGNORE_RESOLVCONF=yes case resolvconf does get run in the dnsmasq initscript and /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf gets written (even though it won't be used). So if dnsmasq is later restarted with ENABLED=1 and IGNORE_RESOLVCONF=no then /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf is ready. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dnsmasq in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1247803 Title: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/1247803/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1247803] Re: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time
I don't really understand why we need to add a conditional at all. It's always safe to run resolvconf -u one time too many; but running it one time too few will introduce subtle bugs (like this one). The proposed conditional only suppresses running resolvconf -u if ENABLED=1 and resolvconf is not being used (ie IGNORE_RESOLVCONF=yes). Is this really such a common case that adding complexity to get the minor optimization of not running resolvconf -u is worth it? Also, doesn't your argument about ENABLED=0 later being changed to ENABLED=1 also apply to IGNORE_RESOLVCONF=yes later being changed to IGNORE_RESOLVCONF=no? I'm still in favour of just unconditionally running resolvconf -u, as my branch does. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dnsmasq in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1247803 Title: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/1247803/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 1247803] Re: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time
On 09/11/13 19:07, Philip Potter wrote: I agree that the postinst is a better place than the init script to run resolvconf -u. I'm not sure that it should be conditional on IGNORE_RESOLVCONF though - given that the update script will be run next time anything touches resolvconf, what's to be gained by not running it in the postinst? And why stop there? Why not also make it conditional on ENABLED=0? I've created a branch with an unconditional resolvconf -u in the postinst. I'm new to launchpad and bazaar so I'm not sure what the next step is -- do I propose a merge? Do I attach a patch to this ticket? Once this has gone though Ubunutu processes, please send my a diff and I'll propogate it to the Debian package. Cheers, Simon. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dnsmasq in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1247803 Title: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/1247803/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1247803] Re: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time
Hmm, good questions . /me thinks. The (small) gain is that we omit an unneeded update run prior to the update run that occurs shortly afterwards when the dnsmasq initscript calls resolvconf. When other things touch resolvconf the update run can't be omitted. We don't want to skip the update run when ENABLED=0 because in that case the initscript itself does not instigate an update run. If no update run is instigated either in the postinst or in the initscript, and the admin later sets ENABLED=1 and IGNORE_RESOLVCONF=no and does /etc/init.d/dnsmasq start and nothing else has instigated an update run in the meantime then dnsmasq starts with an out-of-date /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf which is what we are trying to avoid. So when ENABLED=0 the update run must be done in the postinst even if IGNORE_RESOLVCONF is set. The code should thus look like this: # # If ENABLED=0 then the initscript does not call resolvconf, so we do an # update run here in order to ensure that /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf # is up to date should dnsmasq later be started (with ENABLED=1). # # If ENABLED=1 then the initscript will call resolvconf and thus instigate an # update run, thus updating /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf; but, unless # IGNORE_RESOLVCONF is yes, we have to do an update run here so that # /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf is valid before dnsmasq starts. # if [ $ENABLED = 0 ] || [ $IGNORE_RESOLVCONF != yes ] ; then resolvconf -u fi -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dnsmasq in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1247803 Title: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/1247803/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1247803] Re: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time
** Branch linked: lp:~philip-g-potter/dnsmasq/update-resolvconf -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dnsmasq in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1247803 Title: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/1247803/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1247803] Re: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time
I agree that the postinst is a better place than the init script to run resolvconf -u. I'm not sure that it should be conditional on IGNORE_RESOLVCONF though - given that the update script will be run next time anything touches resolvconf, what's to be gained by not running it in the postinst? And why stop there? Why not also make it conditional on ENABLED=0? I've created a branch with an unconditional resolvconf -u in the postinst. I'm new to launchpad and bazaar so I'm not sure what the next step is -- do I propose a merge? Do I attach a patch to this ticket? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dnsmasq in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1247803 Title: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/1247803/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1247803] Re: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time
When the dnsmasq package is installed its postinst starts the dnsmasq daemon via the initscript. Dnsmasq initially reads what is most probably an empty file from /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf and so initially can't resolve names. (The file is probably empty because it is generated by /etc/resolvconf/update.d/dnsmasq which is included in the dnsmasq package.) Then the dnsmasq initscript tells resolvconf that dnsmasq is listening at 127.0.0.1. In response to this, resolvconf runs the aforementioned hook script /etc/resolvconf/update.d/dnsmasq which writes a new /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf containing information about other nameservers. The dnsmasq binary notices that the latter file has changed and re-reads it. Meanwhile resolvconf updates /etc/resolv.conf to contain nameserver 127.0.0.1 so that the resolver will talk to dnsmasq. It's this meanwhile that is the problem. Resolvconf may update resolv.conf to point to dnsmasq before dnsmasq is ready to resolve names on the basis of the information just written to /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf. In other words, you're right. :) I think that the postinst should be enhanced such that if /etc/resolvconf/update.d/dnsmasq has appeared or changed on install or upgrade then it (the postinst) does resolvconf -u before starting dnsmasq. The postinst should refrain from doing the resolvconf -u if IGNORE_RESOLVCONF is set in /etc/default/dnsmasq. ** Changed in: dnsmasq (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed ** Also affects: dnsmasq (Debian) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dnsmasq in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1247803 Title: dnsmasq temporarily breaks DNS resolution when starting for the first time To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/1247803/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
