Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials

2013-06-05 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote:

 We now have a youtube channel for Ubuntu Studio
 https://www.youtube.com/user/ubuntustudiotube.
 It's linked to the Ubuntu Studio G+ page, so all page managers should
 also be able to manage the youtube channel.

 I'll announce it later on social sites, and mail lists.

 The primary reason for the channel is to host tutorials. So far we have
 no written down guidelines for how to do this. I'll prepare some later.
 But, for now, something like this should do:

 Category tree for tutorials:

  * main workflow (i.e., audio, video, graphics, etc)
   * sub workflow (i.e., recording, mixing, mastering, editing, etc)

 So, we could name one video something like: audio - recording - setting
 up ardour for recording
 or: video - modelling - how to create a soccer ball.

 The videos don't need to be long. And we don't need to cover everything
 imaginable. Just some basic stuff to begin with. So, short and to the
 point is much appreciated.

 The videos should have:
  * recorded desktop - both audio and video from the actual workflow
  * english subs - describing what is going on

 Spoken english is voluntary.

 Not sure what we should do about background music, and such, but for
 now, I think we don't need to use it at all.
 Would be nice to have a pool of music that is suitable for using in the
 background (preferably something somewhat soft, that works for all age
 groups and style preferences), and that we can use on multiple videos.
 We should ask for submissions for this separately.
 Tutorials for audio related workflows probably don't require background
 music anyway.


Great initiative! With some guidelines on how to create them so we get a
similar look'n'feel I would try to do some tutorials.

I vote strongly against background music in tutorials. Especially if you do
a voice over of what you are doing or when the tutorial is concerning audio
or video production, I think it's unnecessary and collide with the
information you are trying to get through.
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Re: Contributors needed to define our workflows

2013-06-05 Thread Marco BRUNO
I am available for testing of audio applications for use in web radio and
live situations. In addition I'd like to test a possible version of ubuntu
live as to perform only to usb memory stick on host systems with ability to
store data on the stick.

Io mi  rendo disponibile per fare test su applicazioni audio da utilizzare
in ambito web radio ed in situazion live . In oltre mi piacerebbe  testare
una eventuale  versione di ubuntu live da far eseguire solo su chiavetta su
sistemi ospiti con possibilità di archiviare dati sulla chiavetta.

Marco BRUNO
www.radioabawalla.net


2013/6/5 Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me

 We need people who can investigate our different workflows, and make
 sure we are including the appropriate applications for each workflow.

 The workflows are:

  * audio
  * graphics
  * video
  * photography
  * publishing
  * desktop (generic tools for standard desktop use)

 There's currently no strict method on how to do this, but here are some
 rules we try to abide by:

  * for each use case, include only one application (there may be reasons
  to make exceptions in some cases)
  * don't include applications of your personal preference, when given a
  choice. Choose the one that is most popular (if most users use A, they
  won't be used to the B interface).

 This particular task of defining our workflows really doesn't require
 any skills at all, other than user skills. The more experienced you are
 as a user the better. Though, of course, we need our workflows to work
 for everyone, not just one group of people.

 I'm going to try to fish for contributors on our social sites later as
 well for this. If you know anyone that might be interested in this,
 don't hesitate to pass this along.

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Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials

2013-06-05 Thread Kaj Ailomaa


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 09:01 AM, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:

 Great initiative! With some guidelines on how to create them so we get a
 similar look'n'feel I would try to do some tutorials.
 
 I vote strongly against background music in tutorials. Especially if you
 do
 a voice over of what you are doing or when the tutorial is concerning
 audio
 or video production, I think it's unnecessary and collide with the
 information you are trying to get through.
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You are welcome to create some, and in the process establish some
standards for how they should be edited.

I think it would be enough with:
 * intro page, with title and description of the tutorial (this could
 use a bit of artwork)
 * temporary zoom-ins when attention to detail is required.
 * subs explaining what happens on screen

I'd rather not do voice overs unless they are fairly good quality, and
the person speaks well enough English for it to be clearly
understandable. That's my initial standpoint anyway.
If we want voice overs, we could always add them afterwards too.

I think it might be nice for some form of tutorials to have music in the
background, but not any kind of music. It needs to be something generic
enough to work on all people.

If you're up to it, you are welcome to edit/oversee all of the
tutorials, if others help creating them. 

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Re: Contributors needed to define our workflows

2013-06-05 Thread Kaj Ailomaa


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 09:13 AM, Marco BRUNO wrote:
 I am available for testing of audio applications for use in web radio and
 live situations. In addition I'd like to test a possible version of
 ubuntu
 live as to perform only to usb memory stick on host systems with ability
 to
 store data on the stick.
 
 Io mi  rendo disponibile per fare test su applicazioni audio da
 utilizzare
 in ambito web radio ed in situazion live . In oltre mi piacerebbe 
 testare
 una eventuale  versione di ubuntu live da far eseguire solo su chiavetta
 su
 sistemi ospiti con possibilità di archiviare dati sulla chiavetta.
 
 Marco BRUNO
 www.radioabawalla.net
 

Great!
Initially, if you already know of existing problems with this, or that
we should include some applications, just start a new thread and explain
it to us. 
I will need to look deeper at a good way to investigate a certain
workflow. I like to be as thorough as I can, but also, not cause too
much work on people :).

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Re: Video players

2013-06-05 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.dewrote:


  4) I have sync all the videos to the music file. To do this in Mac or
  Windows the video editor often support scrubbing, so you can pinpoint the
  audio in the current video with the same spot in the song. Kdenlive does
  not support scrubbing so I have to look for obvious things in the track,
  like certain words sung or when an instrument start to play.

 Just orientate by the waveforms and you get it perfectly in sync. Since
 your videoclips are shot at the very recording you can align the audio
 of the videoclip and the mixed-down song just perfectly...

 That is what I do at first to get it narrowed down, but unfortunately my
experience is that the waveforms that are displayed are not accurate enough
and I need to nudge a couple (or sometimes even more) frames forward or
backwards to get it to sync perfectly. This I can do either visually or
when I let both audio sound at the same time. Any delay in between them
means they are not in sync even though the waveforms are. But that is most
likely a discussion I should bring up with the Kdenlive people.
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Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials

2013-06-05 Thread Ho Wan Chan
Hi Kaj,

Of course the Ubuntu QA team has our own videos (recorded by the famous
Nicholas Skaggs). I guess though we can tutor people to use our own system,
For instance, we can show people how to do the Post-installation (Ubuntu
Studio) ISO test.

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
Ubuntu Studio Release Manager
On 2013-6-5 下午3:47, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote:



 On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 09:31 AM, Ho Wan Chan wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  interesting to see Kaj created a YouTube channel (as planned). Hurray!
 
  @Kaj: After my exams maybe I should do a video on testing (maybe with
  Maik
  too)…
 
  Regards,
  Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
  Ubuntu Studio Release Manager
  On 2013-6-5 下午3:22, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote:
 
  
  

 Good idea about testing.
 But, I wonder, are there any already available for Ubuntu?
 In any case, we could have our own.

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Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials

2013-06-05 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote:


 You are welcome to create some, and in the process establish some
 standards for how they should be edited.


 If you're up to it, you are welcome to edit/oversee all of the
 tutorials, if others help creating them.


It would be a great opportunity for me to give something back to the
community!
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Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials

2013-06-05 Thread ttoine
great !
For open source software only, or for apps like Mixbus and Lightwork ?


Antoine THOMAS
Tél: 0663137906


2013/6/5 Ho Wan Chan smartbo...@gmail.com

 Hi Kaj,

 Of course the Ubuntu QA team has our own videos (recorded by the famous
 Nicholas Skaggs). I guess though we can tutor people to use our own system,
 For instance, we can show people how to do the Post-installation (Ubuntu
 Studio) ISO test.

 Regards,
 Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
 Ubuntu Studio Release Manager
 On 2013-6-5 下午3:47, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote:



 On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 09:31 AM, Ho Wan Chan wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  interesting to see Kaj created a YouTube channel (as planned). Hurray!
 
  @Kaj: After my exams maybe I should do a video on testing (maybe with
  Maik
  too)…
 
  Regards,
  Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
  Ubuntu Studio Release Manager
  On 2013-6-5 下午3:22, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote:
 
  
  

 Good idea about testing.
 But, I wonder, are there any already available for Ubuntu?
 In any case, we could have our own.

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Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials

2013-06-05 Thread Shubham Mishra

On 06/05/2013 06:06 AM, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:

We now have a youtube channel for Ubuntu Studio
https://www.youtube.com/user/ubuntustudiotube.
It's linked to the Ubuntu Studio G+ page, so all page managers should
also be able to manage the youtube channel.

I'll announce it later on social sites, and mail lists.

The primary reason for the channel is to host tutorials. So far we have
no written down guidelines for how to do this. I'll prepare some later.
But, for now, something like this should do:

Category tree for tutorials:

  * main workflow (i.e., audio, video, graphics, etc)
   * sub workflow (i.e., recording, mixing, mastering, editing, etc)

So, we could name one video something like: audio - recording - setting
up ardour for recording
or: video - modelling - how to create a soccer ball.

The videos don't need to be long. And we don't need to cover everything
imaginable. Just some basic stuff to begin with. So, short and to the
point is much appreciated.

The videos should have:
  * recorded desktop - both audio and video from the actual workflow
  * english subs - describing what is going on

Spoken english is voluntary.

Not sure what we should do about background music, and such, but for
now, I think we don't need to use it at all.
Would be nice to have a pool of music that is suitable for using in the
background (preferably something somewhat soft, that works for all age
groups and style preferences), and that we can use on multiple videos.
We should ask for submissions for this separately.
Tutorials for audio related workflows probably don't require background
music anyway.

Are there any requirements for what we can have in the OS if we are 
doing a video? For example I am still using the LTS 12.04. So my menus 
might look a bit different from what we currently have. That might 
confuse people


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Re: Video players

2013-06-05 Thread Len Ovens

On Wed, June 5, 2013 12:32 am, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Hartmut Noack
 zettber...@linuxuse.dewrote:


  4) I have sync all the videos to the music file. To do this in Mac or
  Windows the video editor often support scrubbing, so you can pinpoint
 the
  audio in the current video with the same spot in the song. Kdenlive
 does
  not support scrubbing so I have to look for obvious things in the
 track,
  like certain words sung or when an instrument start to play.

 Just orientate by the waveforms and you get it perfectly in sync. Since
 your videoclips are shot at the very recording you can align the audio
 of the videoclip and the mixed-down song just perfectly...

 That is what I do at first to get it narrowed down, but unfortunately my
 experience is that the waveforms that are displayed are not accurate
 enough
 and I need to nudge a couple (or sometimes even more) frames forward or
 backwards to get it to sync perfectly. This I can do either visually or
 when I let both audio sound at the same time. Any delay in between them
 means they are not in sync even though the waveforms are. But that is most
 likely a discussion I should bring up with the Kdenlive people.

I would assume you are using more than one camera if you are taking shots
of different instruments all in one take. Unless they are all the same
make and model of camera, the sync from audio to video may be different
from camera to camera. A visual cue such as a strobe may be a better tool
for syncing.

Also pay attention to frame rate, though I would guess that if you are
happy with things once they are synced this is ok. Different frame rates
would of course make sync wander from one end of a video to the other.

I expect that on a very long video you would loose sync towards the end
anyway as your cameras are not running from a master clock. In TV
broadcast situations all video sources get their sync from one master
clock through the same length of cable round trip to the switcher, this
includes cameras, VCRs, telecine, and titling/animation. Off site video is
framestored so it can be synced to station... kind of like resampling.

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Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials

2013-06-05 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 03:38 PM, Shubham Mishra wrote:
 Are there any requirements for what we can have in the OS if we are 
 doing a video? For example I am still using the LTS 12.04. So my menus 
 might look a bit different from what we currently have. That might 
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I don't think that is a problem. It's more important that the
applications themselves haven't changed too much.
Also, the menu is prone to changes between releases, so that is hard to
avoid anyway.

We should mark the videos by release as well, if it's important to do
so.

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Re: Video players

2013-06-05 Thread Len Ovens

On Wed, June 5, 2013 2:34 am, edmund wrote:
 On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 01:21:19 +0200
 Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.de wrote:

 Am 04.06.2013 02:43, schrieb Len Ovens:
 
  On Mon, June 3, 2013 8:02 am, edmund wrote:
 
  What are you calling uncommon sample rates? Ubuntu Studio is for
  multi media and in my case High res audio. Here we use 96 kHz and
  192 kHz sample rates.
 Of course I have recorded in these samplerates also and in very few
 cases it really makes a difference. Most notably to me was, that Alsa
 Modular Synths sounds quite different at 96KHz.

That is possible... but, the audio in and out of a computer even at 96Khz
is still limited to just over 20kHz. The differences you are hearing may
be as a result of the math at higher frequencies affecting what ends up in
the 20-20kHz passband.

  VLC player,

 Is made to play the audio, that is relevant out there, where people
 listen to music that is mixed and mastered and that is: 48KHz Video,
 44.1KHz Audio and that is it.
The bluray standard is 192/24, you don't get anything extra for your
money,  but it is the standard. Much of the audio on such music started
out as 48/16... (If it was on tape originally then 48/13 or less)

  seems to play these formats too but it doesn't!
  When I play a 80 kHz sine it is audible

Shouldn't be, but then really there is no reason to play an 80k sine
through a computer because there are no known sound interfaces able to
reproduce signals of that frequency anyway. The analogue part of the chain
makes sure of that.

 No I mean playing a 80 kHz sine (with a 192kHz sample rate)
 I made a number of sines with audacity and played them with VLC among
 other players, VLC  produces ghost sounds with sine waves above a
 certain frequency.

 So paying music with VLC in that format makes you hear things you never
 heard before, great! Pity that the difference is fake and distortion
 rather then more music information.

That would be whatever does the resample or down/upsample. However, there
is no (and shouldn't be anyway) program material (even bluray 192 sample
rate stuff) that has 80khz content anyway. Any of the mics one can buy
start to roll of around 18hz (even condenser mics). So any signals above
that are artificially created. Buy some analogue test equipment and test
it for yourself. See what the highest frequency is that you can import and
export with your sound card. There is an audible difference, but it is not
in audio at 80khz.

Many audio programs use poor quality resampling BTW. VLC would depend on
it's libs.

This is something to consider. There are a lot of video players, but they
depend on only a few codec libs. We should break down our choices based on
the underlying libs I think.




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Re: Video players

2013-06-05 Thread Hartmut Noack
Am 05.06.2013 11:34, schrieb edmund:
 On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 01:21:19 +0200
 Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.de wrote:
 
 Am 04.06.2013 02:43, schrieb Len Ovens:

 On Mon, June 3, 2013 8:02 am, edmund wrote:

 What are you calling uncommon sample rates? Ubuntu Studio is for
 multi media and in my case High res audio. Here we use 96 kHz and
 192 kHz sample rates.
 Of course I have recorded in these samplerates also and in very few
 cases it really makes a difference. Most notably to me was, that Alsa
 Modular Synths sounds quite different at 96KHz.

 VLC player,

 Is made to play the audio, that is relevant out there, where people
 listen to music that is mixed and mastered and that is: 48KHz Video,
 44.1KHz Audio and that is it.

 seems to play these formats too but it doesn't!
 When I play a 80 kHz sine it is audible

 audible, you say hmmm

 But maybe here we misunderstand: you mean, a, say: 1KHz sine with
 80KHz samplerate right?
 
 
 No I mean playing a 80 kHz sine (with a 192kHz sample rate)
 I made a number of sines with audacity and played them with VLC among
 other players, VLC  produces ghost sounds with sine waves above a
 certain frequency.
 
 So paying music with VLC in that format makes you hear things you never
 heard before, great! Pity that the difference is fake and distortion
 rather then more music information.

 r a player, that is made to play
 distributed audio

 as - something very different.
 It is far below 20 kHz and clearly audible on 10 Euro loudspeakers,
 so it is definitely not 80 kHz.
 I would say ditch it or use it for things that doesn't matter but
 not for playing high res or quality audio.

 Quality audio is 16/44.1 CDDA, carefully mastered and dithered from
 recordings, that may or may not be recorded at higher rates.
 
 Whether it is required or not to use higher sample rates for perfect
 audio reproduction is another discussion. But at the moment there is no
 such thing as a perfect audio system. So claims as 44.1 kHz or MP3 is
 enough holds no water.

MP3 or OGG is not enough at all. The difference is clearly audible when
you compare it with a uncompressed stream of original recordings.
Commercially matered material is stripped down often anyway so the
compression does not make great differences but it is perfectly feasable
to record, mix and distribute audio in a way, that uncompressed PCM does
sound quite different than MP3 or OGG of the same material.

But 16/44.1 is hard to beat and 16/48 is not.


 I, BTW, have ditched the 96KHz experiments and use 48KHz with all
 great results and 9 out of 10 professional Studios do the same.
 
 The dutch concert hall records in SACD format
Interesting,
so they do not use PCM but Delta-Sigma-Modulation in the first place or
do they use 24/192 PCM and interpolate later?

Anyway: one fine day when more than 0.1% of the listeners out there own
a SACD-drive or when anyone out there is eager to play DSM-streams on a
computer, I guess VLC will adopt.


 Oh and yes it does so under windows too.

 Whatever rate you use, the input and the output of any of the audio
 interfaces people have tested has been 20-2Hz. 

 I experienced, that it does make a difference, when a lowpass at 20KHz
 is applied but 48KHz deliver 24KHz and anything beyond that is indeed
 irrelevant.

 Distortion and noise have a real impact when HiFi is concerned,
 frequencies, that are beyond the double of human hearing do not.
 
 Well it is no so simple to determine what the human hearing is
 capable of in the first place and show me the first audio set on
 which I cannot hear the difference between a real cymbal and a cymbal 
 played on that audio set.

The effect is even more apalling when you compare a distorted Guitar
from a Marshallstack with a recording of it.
And the reason is physics: any speaker is just a simulation, it can
create soundwaves, that have more or less the very same characteristics
as the original, very very complex soundwave made by an instrument in a
room. But they cannot be the same: 8x12 inch of speakermembranes that
have no other obligation but creating a blast of metalguitars cannot be
perfectly mimicked by a pair of 8-Speakers, that has to produce Bass,
drums and singer also...

So there may be more to do to bring more of the real thing to the homes
of the audiophiles. But I doubt, that higher frequency-ranges will help.

In my experience Ardour works perfectly well with PCM of any samplerate.
And I would not bother to play such recordings using a player, that is
made for average distributed media.

On the contrary! I am happy to have a player like VLC, that will reveal
whether I did something wrong when rendering a file for end-user
distribution.

best regards

HZN

 
 Edmund
 
 


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Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials

2013-06-05 Thread lukefromdc
About backing music: Google scans all videos uploaded to Youtube for backing
music for the RIAA and publishers. They then offer the copythugs the options to
silence soundtracks, put ads on the videos, track users, or do nothing. There is
no legal requirement for them to do this, as the safe harbor provisions of 
the 
DCMA state that 3ed party webhosts need only remove content after getting
formal notice to be totally shielded from lawsuits. Google probably feared their
size would lead the US Congress to change that law.

This was the original reason I left Youtube for Liveleak. Since then the new 
Google
TOS came along to permit browser fingerprinting (added words or device 
information)
so now I won't even connect to any Google server except via Torbrowser, which is
designed (via Torbutton) to resist fingerprinting attacks as well as obfuscate 
the IP
address. 

I understand few here face the security issues I do, but if you use music on 
Google
you risk losing the entire sountrack. Also users of this channel might have 
issues 
forming Youtube/Gmail accounts of their own as Google's tracking will show them
as already adminsistering and logging into one account-and Google has a real 
names
policy and tries to flag multiple accounts held by any one user.


On 06/05/2013 at 3:21 AM, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote:

On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 09:01 AM, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:

 Great initiative! With some guidelines on how to create them so 
we get a
 similar look'n'feel I would try to do some tutorials.
 
 I vote strongly against background music in tutorials. 
Especially if you
 do
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concerning
 audio
 or video production, I think it's unnecessary and collide with 
the
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You are welcome to create some, and in the process establish some
standards for how they should be edited.

I think it would be enough with:
 * intro page, with title and description of the tutorial (this 
could
 use a bit of artwork)
 * temporary zoom-ins when attention to detail is required.
 * subs explaining what happens on screen

I'd rather not do voice overs unless they are fairly good quality, 
and
the person speaks well enough English for it to be clearly
understandable. That's my initial standpoint anyway.
If we want voice overs, we could always add them afterwards too.

I think it might be nice for some form of tutorials to have music 
in the
background, but not any kind of music. It needs to be something 
generic
enough to work on all people.

If you're up to it, you are welcome to edit/oversee all of the
tutorials, if others help creating them. 

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Re: Video players

2013-06-05 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net wrote:

 I would assume you are using more than one camera if you are taking shots
 of different instruments all in one take. Unless they are all the same
 make and model of camera, the sync from audio to video may be different
 from camera to camera. A visual cue such as a strobe may be a better tool
 for syncing.

 Also pay attention to frame rate, though I would guess that if you are
 happy with things once they are synced this is ok. Different frame rates
 would of course make sync wander from one end of a video to the other.

 Ah, no it's me, myself and I playing all the instruments so it's the other
kind of one take only. It's a legacy from my audio recording policy to get
things moving instead of playing the same part over and over again until I
hate the song and never finish recording it.
I set the camera, nowadays I actually use an iPhone, play one instrument,
one take, one video file. Pick up the next instrument, same camera, one
take. And so on. Yes, there is an issue with iPhone deciding itself between
24 and 30 fps depending on lighting. So it's important to use enough
lighting for all recordings. For my next project I will buy an app that
will lock the frame rate.
In any case, it has still been an issue with the waveforms and actually
audio in Kdenlive even with the same camera and same frame rate for all
video files.
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Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials

2013-06-05 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:

 About backing music: Google scans all videos uploaded to Youtube for
 backing
 music for the RIAA and publishers. They then offer the copythugs the
 options to
 silence soundtracks, put ads on the videos, track users, or do nothing.
 There is
 no legal requirement for them to do this, as the safe harbor provisions
 of the
 DCMA state that 3ed party webhosts need only remove content after getting
 formal notice to be totally shielded from lawsuits. Google probably feared
 their
 size would lead the US Congress to change that law.

 This was the original reason I left Youtube for Liveleak. Since then the
 new Google
 TOS came along to permit browser fingerprinting (added words or device
 information)
 so now I won't even connect to any Google server except via Torbrowser,
 which is
 designed (via Torbutton) to resist fingerprinting attacks as well as
 obfuscate the IP
 address.

 I understand few here face the security issues I do, but if you use music
 on Google
 you risk losing the entire sountrack. Also users of this channel might
 have issues
 forming Youtube/Gmail accounts of their own as Google's tracking will show
 them
 as already adminsistering and logging into one account-and Google has a
 real names
 policy and tries to flag multiple accounts held by any one user.


When I read the conversation of background music my mind read it as if the
community would create its own music parts. Perhaps I misunderstood.
Otherwise there will be a problem with using other artists' music unless
it's free.
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LiveFS ubuntustudio/saucy/amd64 failed to build on 20130605

2013-06-05 Thread CD Image

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Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials

2013-06-05 Thread ttoine
You can find a lot of free music on jamendo.com. and don't forget to select
the right license on YouTube: they allow CC now.
Le 5 juin 2013 20:29, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me a écrit :



 On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 08:23 PM, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:

  When I read the conversation of background music my mind read it as if
  the
  community would create its own music parts. Perhaps I misunderstood.
  Otherwise there will be a problem with using other artists' music unless
  it's free.
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 Community created music would be the only option for me. Or, at least,
 it needs to be some sort of free license. But, preferably created by the
 community.

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