Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] i386 EOL plans for Ubuntu Studio?
On Mon, 11 Jul 2016, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:50:52 -0400, Bryan Quigley wrote: [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-June/039420.html In June I forwarded the survey. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/2016-June/010767.html Maybe the US team should consider to care about the users needs. The Studio team is almost wholely reliant on the keepers of the repo for everything they have to give. Within those walls the Studio team has done very well. (more people would not have gone astray ;) -- Len Ovens www.ovenwerks.net -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] i386 EOL plans for Ubuntu Studio?
On Mon, 11 Jul 2016, Bryan Quigley wrote: Hi Ubuntu Studio team, From the thread on Ubuntu-devel/discuss [1] I'm going to start conversations with each flavor on what their plans are for i386 in the 18.04 timeframe. The general ideas are either: *Start Dropping i386 for Ubuntu Studio now* A. Drop Ubuntu Studio i386 ISO for 16.10 B. In addition to A, also block upgrades by dropping packages from i386 archive (not sure what would make sense). How does this affect users who use 32bit wine so they can use the standard 32bit VST/VSTi? In other words the biggest reason for 32 bit ISOs on 64 bit machines in Audio I know is to be able to use windows VST and VSTi. Aside from using perfectly good HW that would otherwise be thrown away. Lets look at it anouther way. If I have 5 or 6 pieces of HW that are 32 bit and 3 that are 64 bit. Then I am forced to find another distro for the 32 bit machines, what are my reasons for using Ubuntu for the few 64 bit machines? How many people have been introduced to Ubuntu by people giving new life to older HW with Ubuntu? Ubuntu, a word that roughly means "inclusivness", is now becoming a company that means exclusiveness... if you are poor and have to rely on handme downs -> go away. BTW, the idea of shutting down 32bit archives has rather an interesting message for basically any flavour aside from vanilla. It cuts at Lubuntu's reason for being... who's next? I expect in the future maybe we will here nerds say: We can't run linux on here any more... maybe try open XT. As an aside, reading the wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy) Makes me wonder if there isn't more using words with no meaning to make oneself seem impressive and mark oneself as a world shaker while actually being nothing of the sort. -- Len Ovens www.ovenwerks.net -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] i386 EOL plans for Ubuntu Studio?
Hi Ralf, Thanks for sharing the survey! Unfortunately I didn't provide an option to select Ubuntu Studio so I didn't provide survey results here because I'm not sure they would be useful. The XFCE results are available but again that might not translate to Ubuntu Studio users perfectly: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2016-July/011209.html Kind regards, Bryan On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:50:52 -0400, Bryan Quigley wrote: >>[1] >>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-June/039420.html > > In June I forwarded the survey. > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/2016-June/010767.html > > Maybe the US team should consider to care about the users needs. > > Regards, > Ralf > > -- > ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list > ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] i386 EOL plans for Ubuntu Studio?
On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:50:52 -0400, Bryan Quigley wrote: >[1] >https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-June/039420.html In June I forwarded the survey. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/2016-June/010767.html Maybe the US team should consider to care about the users needs. Regards, Ralf -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[ubuntu-studio-devel] i386 EOL plans for Ubuntu Studio?
Hi Ubuntu Studio team, >From the thread on Ubuntu-devel/discuss [1] I'm going to start conversations with each flavor on what their plans are for i386 in the 18.04 timeframe. The general ideas are either: *Start Dropping i386 for Ubuntu Studio now* A. Drop Ubuntu Studio i386 ISO for 16.10 B. In addition to A, also block upgrades by dropping packages from i386 archive (not sure what would make sense). Some Pros: Halves the test cases you need to go through. Reduces bandwidth usage and makes it more obvious for new users what to download. (Read other thread for some others) *Wait until after 18.04 and then reconsider dropping i386* Pros: Maintain older hardware running Ubuntu Studio for another 2+ years (up from 3 years). Thoughts? Bryan * You could consider any packages that are 100% specific to the Ubuntu Studio flavor. [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-June/039420.html i386 - To be clear I mean any 32-bit x86 platform (usually AMD/Intel/VIA). -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
