[ubuntu-studio-devel] rtirq for systemd
Hi, as it turned out during a request regarding lightdm [1], Ubuntu packages should have completely migrated to systemd. However, even while upstream, Rui provides a systemd unit, the Ubuntu packages for 16.04 and 16.10 don't provide a unit at all [2], but rely on systemd-sysv-generator. What is your opinion on that? Moving it to /bin has got the advantage, that you never need to run /path/to/rtirq satus you only need to run rtirq status in addition there would no systemd-sysv-generator related issue anymore and a systemd unit could be used. Not to mention, that getting rid of this hybrid approach, it becomes easier to maintain an install. Regards, Ralf [1] >From the latest mail, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2016-July/286299.html : On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 21:38:33 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: >you should complain to the rtirq maintainers then (the debian >multimedia team) for not porting it to systemd yet I wonder why they rely on systemd-sysv-generator. That's from upstream, Rui, the one who wrote the script, not Debian, aka Ubuntu's upstream, http://www.rncbc.org/jack/rtirq-20150216.tar.gz , IIRC he's using Suse: [Unit] Description=Realtime IRQ thread system tuning After=multi-user.target sound.target [Service] Type=oneshot ExecStart=/etc/init.d/rtirq start ExecStop=/etc/init.d/rtirq stop RemainAfterExit=true [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target On Arch Linux it's moved to /usr/bin/: [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /usr/lib/systemd/system/rtirq.service [Unit] Description=Realtime IRQ thread system tuning After=multi-user.target sound.target [Service] Type=oneshot ExecStart=/usr/bin/rtirq start ExecStop=/usr/bin/rtirq stop RemainAfterExit=true [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target >From the Arch PKGBUILD: sed -e "s|etc/init.d|usr/bin|" -i rtirq.service Debian doesn't provide it at all: "File list of package rtirq-init in sid of architecture all /etc/default/rtirq /etc/init.d/rtirq /usr/share/doc/rtirq-init/changelog.Debian.gz /usr/share/doc/rtirq-init/copyright" - https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/rtirq-init/filelist I'll talk it over with the Ubuntu Studio team, instead of talking to Debian packagers. [2] "File list of package rtirq-init in xenial of architecture all /etc/default/rtirq /etc/init.d/rtirq /usr/share/doc/rtirq-init/changelog.Debian.gz /usr/share/doc/rtirq-init/copyright" - http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/rtirq-init/filelist http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/all/rtirq-init/filelist -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[ubuntu-studio-devel] LiveFS ubuntustudio/yakkety/amd64 failed to build on 20160725
RUN: /usr/share/launchpad-buildd/slavebin/slave-prep ['slave-prep'] Forking launchpad-buildd slave process... Kernel version: Linux lgw01-19 3.13.0-92-generic #139-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 28 20:42:26 UTC 2016 x86_64 Buildd toolchain package versions: launchpad-buildd_139 python-lpbuildd_139 sbuild_0.65.2-1ubuntu2~ubuntu14.04.1~ppa8 bzr-builder_0.7.3+bzr174~ppa13~ubuntu14.04.1 bzr_2.6.0+bzr6593-1ubuntu1.5 git-build-recipe_0.3~git201603101733.90b6821~ubuntu14.04.2 git_1:1.9.1-1ubuntu0.3 dpkg-dev_1.17.5ubuntu5.7 python-debian_0.1.27ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04.1~ppa1 qemu-user-static_2.0.0+dfsg-2ubuntu1.25. Syncing the system clock with the buildd NTP service... 25 Jul 20:06:00 ntpdate[1664]: adjust time server 10.211.37.1 offset 0.001394 sec RUN: /usr/share/launchpad-buildd/slavebin/unpack-chroot ['unpack-chroot', 'LIVEFSBUILD-70378', '/home/buildd/filecache-default/063eeb43ee0a3186cd7a3c6a3a452f2f4c9a8d95'] Unpacking chroot for build LIVEFSBUILD-70378 RUN: /usr/share/launchpad-buildd/slavebin/mount-chroot ['mount-chroot', 'LIVEFSBUILD-70378'] Mounting chroot for build LIVEFSBUILD-70378 RUN: /usr/share/launchpad-buildd/slavebin/override-sources-list ['override-sources-list', 'LIVEFSBUILD-70378', 'deb http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety main universe'] Overriding sources.list in build-LIVEFSBUILD-70378 RUN: /usr/share/launchpad-buildd/slavebin/update-debian-chroot ['update-debian-chroot', 'LIVEFSBUILD-70378', 'amd64'] Updating debian chroot for build LIVEFSBUILD-70378 Get:1 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety InRelease [247 kB] Get:2 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 Packages [1202 kB] Get:3 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/main Translation-en [570 kB] Get:4 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/universe amd64 Packages [ kB] Get:5 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/universe Translation-en [4481 kB] Fetched 14.3 MB in 3s (3934 kB/s) Reading package lists... Reading package lists... Building dependency tree... Reading state information... Calculating upgrade... The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: libprocps4 Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove it. The following NEW packages will be installed: libpng16-16 libprocps6 The following packages will be upgraded: apt apt-transport-https base-files bash binutils bsdutils bzip2 cpp-5 debconf debianutils dmsetup dpkg dpkg-dev e2fslibs e2fsprogs findutils g++-5 gcc-5 gcc-5-base gcc-6-base grep hostname init init-system-helpers insserv libapt-pkg5.0 libasan2 libatomic1 libblkid1 libbz2-1.0 libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6-dev libcap2 libcap2-bin libcc1-0 libcilkrts5 libcomerr2 libcryptsetup4 libcurl3-gnutls libdb5.3 libdebconfclient0 libdevmapper1.02.1 libdpkg-perl libfdisk1 libgcc-5-dev libgcc1 libgcrypt20 libgdbm3 libgmp10 libgnutls30 libgomp1 libgpg-error0 libgssapi-krb5-2 libidn11 libisl15 libitm1 libk5crypto3 libkmod2 libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 libldap-2.4-2 liblsan0 liblzma5 libmount1 libmpfr4 libmpx0 libncurses5 libncursesw5 libperl5.22 libquadmath0 librtmp1 libsasl2-2 libsasl2-modules-db libseccomp2 libselinux1 libsemanage-common libsemanage1 libsepol1 libslang2 libsmartcols1 libsqlite3-0 libss2 libssl1.0.0 libstdc++-5-dev libstdc++6 libsystemd0 libtasn1-6 libtinfo5 libtsan0 libubsan0 libudev1 libusb-0.1-4 libuuid1 linux-libc-dev login lsb-base make mount multiarch-support ncurses-base ncurses-bin openssl optipng passwd perl perl-base perl-modules-5.22 pkgbinarymangler policyrcd-script-zg2 procps sed systemd systemd-sysv sysvinit-utils tar tzdata ubuntu-keyring util-linux xz-utils zlib1g 122 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 67.1 MB of archives. After this operation, 8466 kB disk space will be freed. Get:1 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 base-files amd64 9.6ubuntu2 [56.5 kB] Get:2 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 debianutils amd64 4.8 [85.7 kB] Get:3 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 bash amd64 4.3-15ubuntu1 [593 kB] Get:4 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 bsdutils amd64 1:2.28-5ubuntu2 [54.9 kB] Get:5 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 tar amd64 1.29b-1 [230 kB] Get:6 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 dpkg amd64 1.18.9ubuntu2 [2142 kB] Get:7 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 libc6-dev amd64 2.23-1ubuntu1 [2082 kB] Get:8 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 libc-dev-bin amd64 2.23-1ubuntu1 [68.8 kB] Get:9 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 linux-libc-dev amd64 4.4.0-31.50 [835 kB] Get:10 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 gcc-6-base amd64 6.1.1-10ubuntu11 [16.9 kB] Get:11 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 libgcc1 amd64 1:6.1.1-10ubuntu11 [38.6 kB] Get:12 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/main amd64 libc6 amd64 2.23-1ubuntu1 [2580 kB] Get:13 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu yakkety/main amd
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Add and remove packages
On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 15:05:13 +0200, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: >Then, also create your PPA to which you will upload your own custom >meta. That's what I once wanted to do, but for me it's rocket science and I never found a simple explanation for all steps, IOW there's no demo with a real package, a beginner simply could copy, step by step. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Yakkety Alpha 2 (for opt-in flavors)
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016, at 02:55 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Make it transparent, easy to understand and I will help. > I was referring to helping Ubuntu Studio by becoming a developer. The information is what it is, until someone by their own initiative improves it. And, the only way to do so is to learn how it is done. And, to learn that, you may need to consult other developers - either Ubuntu Studio devs, or devs who do work for other flavors. I can share what I know, which is that - what I know. And, if I don't know something I will refer you to someone who I believe knows what I don't know. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Add and remove packages
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016, at 02:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I tried to do this since years, but didn't find any explanation on how > to do this. > Did you ever ask for advice on how to dit? The meta is built with the help the tool *germinate*. There's a config file in the source (update.cfg - which needs to be updated for each new release, and hasn't been yet, but I will fix that on next upload). In the config file you will find the url for some seed files. Some of the seeds are the same for all official Ubuntu flavor desktop metas, some are specific for the flavor. So, in order for us to make changes the packages audio, video, graphics, etc, we do that in our seeds - not in the meta itself. Once the seeds have been changed, the meta is updated. If you want to create your own custom meta, you can clone our seeds, and the add your own bzr branch for it in launchpad. Then, also create your PPA to which you will upload your own custom meta. In the config for the meta, change the url so it points to your own seed files. Usually, we only change the codename, but I'm sure you can work out the logic for the renaming. Finally, to create the new meta package (once you have changed the config), you run the update script: fakeroot debian/rules clean ./update dput If you need more info, let me know. This is quite a sparse explanation, but I'm guessing you will make sense of it. If not, just let me know. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Yakkety Alpha 2 (for opt-in flavors)
On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 14:50:50 +0200, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: >On Mon, Jul 25, 2016, at 02:48 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 14:26:55 +0200, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: >> >Get the latest seeds. Make the changes as specified in the wiki >> >(additions, replacements or removals). >> >> Do you consider >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioPackageMaintenance a >> helpful Wiki? >> >> Are you kidding? >> >> If I search for those keywords, one after the other ("additions, >> replacements or removals"), nothing is show. >> >> Is there another hidden Wiki? >> > >If you were sakrecoer, who that post was meant for, you would know >which page I'm talking about. > >Again, if you would like to help, please start from the right end. Make it transparent, easy to understand and I will help. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Add and remove packages
On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 14:46:41 +0200, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: >On Mon, Jul 25, 2016, at 02:36 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:57:32 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: >> >i can't find docs on how to remove or add apps to a package, for >> >example add drumgizmo to ubuntustudio-audio... >> >> Just edit the "control" file. With an editor add a package to or >> remove it from the "Depends" or "Recommends" list. The "control" >> file is in the "debian" folder. >> >> Assumed the package should contain the binary, then you need to add >> everything, "Depends", "Recommends", "Description" etc. to the >> "control" file, also you need to add the "Build-Depends". After that >> edit the "rules" file. >> >> Editing the "rules" could be as easy as ./configure but also very >> tricky. >> >> I guess you already know this and you've got problems with the tricky >> kind of "rules". >> >> The problem is that already Debian, but even more Ubuntu follows an >> opposite of the KISS principle. In addition to make it idiotic >> complicated, they also don't provide good documentations. There are >> good reasons that I'm an Arch Linux user, the KISS principle + good >> documentations in English + good documentation in my native language >> and _everybody_ _easily_ could edit Arch Wikis. >> >> You would be surprised how complicated building a snap is, compared >> to a deb. However, consider to become familiar with both, building >> debs and snaps. >> >> Regards, >> Ralf >> > > >Please don't advice on our packagin Ralf, unless you actually know how >it works :). > >Each package has its own logic, and when it comes to metas, it is not >as simple as editing the meta package itself. > >If you would like to help out with this in the future, you are free to >do so. Just let us know in that case. I tried to do this since years, but didn't find any explanation on how to do this. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Yakkety Alpha 2 (for opt-in flavors)
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016, at 02:48 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 14:26:55 +0200, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > >Get the latest seeds. Make the changes as specified in the wiki > >(additions, replacements or removals). > > Do you consider > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioPackageMaintenance a > helpful Wiki? > > Are you kidding? > > If I search for those keywords, one after the other ("additions, > replacements or removals"), nothing is show. > > Is there another hidden Wiki? > If you were sakrecoer, who that post was meant for, you would know which page I'm talking about. Again, if you would like to help, please start from the right end. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Yakkety Alpha 2 (for opt-in flavors)
On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 14:26:55 +0200, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: >Get the latest seeds. Make the changes as specified in the wiki >(additions, replacements or removals). Do you consider https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioPackageMaintenance a helpful Wiki? Are you kidding? If I search for those keywords, one after the other ("additions, replacements or removals"), nothing is show. Is there another hidden Wiki? -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Add and remove packages
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016, at 02:36 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:57:32 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: > >i can't find docs on how to remove or add apps to a package, for > >example add drumgizmo to ubuntustudio-audio... > > Just edit the "control" file. With an editor add a package to or remove > it from the "Depends" or "Recommends" list. The "control" file is in > the "debian" folder. > > Assumed the package should contain the binary, then you need to add > everything, "Depends", "Recommends", "Description" etc. to the > "control" file, also you need to add the "Build-Depends". After that > edit the "rules" file. > > Editing the "rules" could be as easy as ./configure but also very > tricky. > > I guess you already know this and you've got problems with the tricky > kind of "rules". > > The problem is that already Debian, but even more Ubuntu follows an > opposite of the KISS principle. In addition to make it idiotic > complicated, they also don't provide good documentations. There are > good reasons that I'm an Arch Linux user, the KISS principle + good > documentations in English + good documentation in my native language > and _everybody_ _easily_ could edit Arch Wikis. > > You would be surprised how complicated building a snap is, compared to > a deb. However, consider to become familiar with both, building debs > and snaps. > > Regards, > Ralf > Please don't advice on our packagin Ralf, unless you actually know how it works :). Each package has its own logic, and when it comes to metas, it is not as simple as editing the meta package itself. If you would like to help out with this in the future, you are free to do so. Just let us know in that case. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Add and remove packages
On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:57:32 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: >i can't find docs on how to remove or add apps to a package, for >example add drumgizmo to ubuntustudio-audio... Just edit the "control" file. With an editor add a package to or remove it from the "Depends" or "Recommends" list. The "control" file is in the "debian" folder. Assumed the package should contain the binary, then you need to add everything, "Depends", "Recommends", "Description" etc. to the "control" file, also you need to add the "Build-Depends". After that edit the "rules" file. Editing the "rules" could be as easy as ./configure but also very tricky. I guess you already know this and you've got problems with the tricky kind of "rules". The problem is that already Debian, but even more Ubuntu follows an opposite of the KISS principle. In addition to make it idiotic complicated, they also don't provide good documentations. There are good reasons that I'm an Arch Linux user, the KISS principle + good documentations in English + good documentation in my native language and _everybody_ _easily_ could edit Arch Wikis. You would be surprised how complicated building a snap is, compared to a deb. However, consider to become familiar with both, building debs and snaps. Regards, Ralf -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Yakkety Alpha 2 (for opt-in flavors)
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Set Hallstrom wrote: > On 2016-07-24 23:17, Len Ovens wrote: > > > Ya, I haven't seen anything about packages actually being added > > removed... maybe it has been done and I missed it. I just meant that if > > the actual changes to our packages have not been made there is nothing > > to test. > > Ok, thanks for clarifying, Len. No i haven't seen anything either. In > fact no one has assigned themselves to a work item. > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntustudio-y-development > I guess i should have been more alert and pushy... > > I'd love to do a few but someone has to teach me. > Get the latest seeds. Make the changes as specified in the wiki (additions, replacements or removals). Either do one bzr commit per change, or for the whole thing at once by referring to the planned changes. The upside with doing one commit per change is that you can throughly document the reason for that change in the commit log itself, removing the need to consult any other source. But, I leave that up to the commiter. Once the seeds are updated, anyone can just ping me and I can update the meta package - which is the only package of ours that is not really in a bzr branch (it's the same with all meta packages, usually). Once both the seeds and the meta are updated, our next ISO will contain the changes. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Add and remove packages
måndagen den 25:e juli 2016 kl. 13:03:00 CEST, Ralf Mardorf skrev: On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 12:00:50 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: Could we get started on this list of work items sometime soon perhaps? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntustudio-y-development I'd love to help, but i have no proper experience with that kind of packaging. But i'd love to learn... Why doesn't somebody provide step by step examples too the mailing list, when making the next packages. IOW really everything, how to package, how and what to upload. What to care about regarding Ubuntu policy. Since everything like this is kept as a secret, resp. is only provided by crappy English documentations, nobody is able to help you. that would be very nice, yes! :) zequence made quite a lot of documentation about it, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioPackageMaintenance but there is only that much docs one person can write while having a hole bunch of other responsabilities in check, and i can't find docs on how to remove or add apps to a package, for example add drumgizmo to ubuntustudio-audio... what i can offer in exchange of someone guiding me step by step, is to document the process as i exectute it... :) -- Set Hallström Sent from my Ubuntu pocket computer -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Add and remove packages
On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 12:00:50 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: >Could we get started on this list of work items sometime soon perhaps? >https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntustudio-y-development > >I'd love to help, but i have no proper experience with that kind of >packaging. But i'd love to learn... Why doesn't somebody provide step by step examples too the mailing list, when making the next packages. IOW really everything, how to package, how and what to upload. What to care about regarding Ubuntu policy. Since everything like this is kept as a secret, resp. is only provided by crappy English documentations, nobody is able to help you. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[ubuntu-studio-devel] Add and remove packages
Hi all, Could we get started on this list of work items sometime soon perhaps? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntustudio-y-development I'd love to help, but i have no proper experience with that kind of packaging. But i'd love to learn... -- Set Hallstrom aka sakrecoer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Yakkety Alpha 2 (for opt-in flavors)
On 2016-07-24 23:17, Len Ovens wrote: > Ya, I haven't seen anything about packages actually being added > removed... maybe it has been done and I missed it. I just meant that if > the actual changes to our packages have not been made there is nothing > to test. Ok, thanks for clarifying, Len. No i haven't seen anything either. In fact no one has assigned themselves to a work item. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntustudio-y-development I guess i should have been more alert and pushy... I'd love to do a few but someone has to teach me. -- Set Hallstrom aka sakrecoer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel