RE: Re: GNOME2 function comes to GNOME3, with a third party
I am running it right now in a netbook with only 1GB of ram installed, and top shows it using only 4.2% of one GB, which is 42MB. When editing video on the big 4 core/4GB ram machines, I tend to keep a close eye on ram usage and would have noticed pretty quick if some process made my conky bar for ram usage sit at 25% before even opening kdenlive or avidemux. Even on this netbook, at idle CPU usage will show at 1% on one 'hyperthread virtual core and 2% on the other. Whoever reported 1GB of ram in use with GNOME3 probably had a stuck process within it, perhaps after an update so something. My experience is that will normally show itself with 100% use of one core and the fan speeds coming up, though. Restarting X or at worst rebooting after such an update stops such problems and they don't come back in my experience. I haven't had any resource use problems from any desktop, even GNOME3, affecting audio work in Audacity from any desktop environment on my 4 core machines, though on those I can actually edit audio while rendering video! Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 00:25:14 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net To: ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: GNOME2 function comes to GNOME3, with a third party extension package Message-ID: 1307399114.2677.1.camel@debian Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 21:52 +, Luke Kuhn wrote: I'm still playing with GNOME3 UI options, and just found another one, the frippery extensions for gnome-shell. Since gnome-shell is written largely in Javascript, a good Javascript programmer can make quite a few customizations of it. This package includes six changes, of which I am using five in gnome-shell. They are written explicitly to bring GNOME2 functionality to GNOME3, and by the way are visually stunning-especially the traditional GNOME menu themed in the GNOME3 transparent smoke. This package was enough to make me switch from Unity to Gnome-shell with these extensions added. The pertinant extensions, from the author's website are listed below: Move the clock: Move the clock from the centre of the panel towards the right. This isn't a very significant change, but it was the first extension I wrote. One minor annoyance is that the width of the clock changes with the time so the indicator icons move about a little.Favourites in panelPlace a launcher for each favourite application in the panel. It isn't possible to manage the list from the panel: instead you can add, remove or move favourite applications in the dash and the panel display will update to match. Applications menu in panel: Replace the Activities button in the panel with an Applications menu. The menu is implemented using facilities supplied by the shell so it doesn't behave exactly like a normal menu. Shut Down menu: Replace the Suspend item in the status menu with Shut Down. The dialog that this invokes includes all available shutdown options: suspend, hibernate, restart and power off. An a really big one: Bottom panel Add a bottom panel, including a window list, workspace switcher and message tray button. Because the workspace switcher is arranged horizontally the keybindings for changing workspace have been altered to ctrl-alt-left/right. The message tray button shows and hides the message tray, as the hot corner is hidden by the panel. Right clicking on the workspace switcher invokes a dialog to set the number of workspaces. I am not using the disable dynamic workspaces extension, as dynamic workspaces, always one more than in use, are reliable on my systems. Here's the author's website: http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html Here's the package: http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/gnome-shell-frippery-0.2.0.tgz I now plan to download some Javascript tutorials, in hopes of being able to replace the applications text in the upper right corner menu with an Ubuntustudio button, still triggering the new-old menu system. Somebody wrote that GNOME3 occupies 1GB RAM. Could you please run top and verify/falsify this statement? Thank you in advance! Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
RE: Re: GNOME2 function comes to GNOME3, with a third party
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 19:43 +, Luke Kuhn wrote: I am running it right now in a netbook with only 1GB of ram installed, and top shows it using only 4.2% of one GB, which is 42MB. When editing video on the big 4 core/4GB ram machines, I tend to keep a close eye on ram usage and would have noticed pretty quick if some process made my conky bar for ram usage sit at 25% before even opening kdenlive or avidemux. Even on this netbook, at idle CPU usage will show at 1% on one 'hyperthread virtual core and 2% on the other. Whoever reported 1GB of ram in use with GNOME3 probably had a stuck process within it, perhaps after an update so something. My experience is that will normally show itself with 100% use of one core and the fan speeds coming up, though. Restarting X or at worst rebooting after such an update stops such problems and they don't come back in my experience. I haven't had any resource use problems from any desktop, even GNOME3, affecting audio work in Audacity from any desktop environment on my 4 core machines, though on those I can actually edit audio while rendering video! Thank you, this is good news, since I hope to be able to stick with GNOME. :) Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Re: GNOME2 function comes to GNOME3, with a third party
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote: On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 19:43 +, Luke Kuhn wrote: I am running it right now in a netbook with only 1GB of ram installed, and top shows it using only 4.2% of one GB, which is 42MB. When editing video on the big 4 core/4GB ram machines, I tend to keep a close eye on ram usage and would have noticed pretty quick if some process made my conky bar for ram usage sit at 25% before even opening kdenlive or avidemux. Even on this netbook, at idle CPU usage will show at 1% on one 'hyperthread virtual core and 2% on the other. Whoever reported 1GB of ram in use with GNOME3 probably had a stuck process within it, perhaps after an update so something. My experience is that will normally show itself with 100% use of one core and the fan speeds coming up, though. Restarting X or at worst rebooting after such an update stops such problems and they don't come back in my experience. I haven't had any resource use problems from any desktop, even GNOME3, affecting audio work in Audacity from any desktop environment on my 4 core machines, though on those I can actually edit audio while rendering video! Thank you, this is good news, since I hope to be able to stick with GNOME. :) Ralf I confirm. On my setup, GNOME3 is lighter than GNOME2 (thanks to GTK3 optimizations, cruft removal, and getting rid of the old applet system also helped) Long live GNOME3! -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: GNOME2 function comes to GNOME3, with a third party extension package
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Luke Kuhn lukek...@hotmail.com wrote: SNIP I gotta admit. I'm intrigued. This work might fit for my other stagnant project: Alternative Desktop. https://launchpad.net/alternativedesktop It's mostly making a *-desktop one can install over a CLI install. Direct mail me if interested. -- -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: GNOME2 function comes to GNOME3, with a third party extension package
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 21:52 +, Luke Kuhn wrote: I'm still playing with GNOME3 UI options, and just found another one, the frippery extensions for gnome-shell. Since gnome-shell is written largely in Javascript, a good Javascript programmer can make quite a few customizations of it. This package includes six changes, of which I am using five in gnome-shell. They are written explicitly to bring GNOME2 functionality to GNOME3, and by the way are visually stunning-especially the traditional GNOME menu themed in the GNOME3 transparent smoke. This package was enough to make me switch from Unity to Gnome-shell with these extensions added. The pertinant extensions, from the author's website are listed below: Move the clock: Move the clock from the centre of the panel towards the right. This isn't a very significant change, but it was the first extension I wrote. One minor annoyance is that the width of the clock changes with the time so the indicator icons move about a little.Favourites in panelPlace a launcher for each favourite application in the panel. It isn't possible to manage the list from the panel: instead you can add, remove or move favourite applications in the dash and the panel display will update to match. Applications menu in panel: Replace the Activities button in the panel with an Applications menu. The menu is implemented using facilities supplied by the shell so it doesn't behave exactly like a normal menu. Shut Down menu: Replace the Suspend item in the status menu with Shut Down. The dialog that this invokes includes all available shutdown options: suspend, hibernate, restart and power off. An a really big one: Bottom panel Add a bottom panel, including a window list, workspace switcher and message tray button. Because the workspace switcher is arranged horizontally the keybindings for changing workspace have been altered to ctrl-alt-left/right. The message tray button shows and hides the message tray, as the hot corner is hidden by the panel. Right clicking on the workspace switcher invokes a dialog to set the number of workspaces. I am not using the disable dynamic workspaces extension, as dynamic workspaces, always one more than in use, are reliable on my systems. Here's the author's website: http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html Here's the package: http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/gnome-shell-frippery-0.2.0.tgz I now plan to download some Javascript tutorials, in hopes of being able to replace the applications text in the upper right corner menu with an Ubuntustudio button, still triggering the new-old menu system. Somebody wrote that GNOME3 occupies 1GB RAM. Could you please run top and verify/falsify this statement? Thank you in advance! Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
