Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Antoine Thomas wrote: > You can find a lot of free music on jamendo.com > > Yeah, I saw they had a lot of different licenses and music there. /Jimmy -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
You can find a lot of free music on jamendo.com Le 5 juin 2013 20:29, "Kaj Ailomaa" a écrit : > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 08:23 PM, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: > > > When I read the conversation of background music my mind read it as if > > the > > community would create its own music parts. Perhaps I misunderstood. > > Otherwise there will be a problem with using other artists' music unless > > it's free. > > -- > > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > > Community created music would be the only option for me. Or, at least, > it needs to be some sort of free license. But, preferably created by the > community. > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
You can find a lot of free music on jamendo.com. and don't forget to select the right license on YouTube: they allow CC now. Le 5 juin 2013 20:29, "Kaj Ailomaa" a écrit : > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 08:23 PM, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: > > > When I read the conversation of background music my mind read it as if > > the > > community would create its own music parts. Perhaps I misunderstood. > > Otherwise there will be a problem with using other artists' music unless > > it's free. > > -- > > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > > Community created music would be the only option for me. Or, at least, > it needs to be some sort of free license. But, preferably created by the > community. > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 08:23 PM, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: > When I read the conversation of background music my mind read it as if > the > community would create its own music parts. Perhaps I misunderstood. > Otherwise there will be a problem with using other artists' music unless > it's free. > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel Community created music would be the only option for me. Or, at least, it needs to be some sort of free license. But, preferably created by the community. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM, wrote: > About backing music: Google scans all videos uploaded to Youtube for > backing > music for the RIAA and publishers. They then offer the copythugs the > options to > silence soundtracks, put ads on the videos, track users, or do nothing. > There is > no legal requirement for them to do this, as the "safe harbor" provisions > of the > DCMA state that 3ed party webhosts need only remove content after getting > formal notice to be totally shielded from lawsuits. Google probably feared > their > size would lead the US Congress to change that law. > > This was the original reason I left Youtube for Liveleak. Since then the > new Google > TOS came along to permit browser fingerprinting (added words "or device > information") > so now I won't even connect to any Google server except via Torbrowser, > which is > designed (via Torbutton) to resist fingerprinting attacks as well as > obfuscate the IP > address. > > I understand few here face the security issues I do, but if you use music > on Google > you risk losing the entire sountrack. Also users of this channel might > have issues > forming Youtube/Gmail accounts of their own as Google's tracking will show > them > as already adminsistering and logging into one account-and Google has a > "real names" > policy and tries to flag multiple accounts held by any one user. When I read the conversation of background music my mind read it as if the community would create its own music parts. Perhaps I misunderstood. Otherwise there will be a problem with using other artists' music unless it's free. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 03:38 PM, Shubham Mishra wrote: > > Are there any requirements for what we can have in the OS if we are > > doing a video? For example I am still using the LTS 12.04. So my menus > > might look a bit different from what we currently have. That might > > confuse people > > > > I don't think that is a problem. It's more important that the > applications themselves haven't changed too much. > Also, the menu is prone to changes between releases, so that is hard to > avoid anyway. > > We should mark the videos by release as well, if it's important to do > so. > > I agree, the video should be marked with which version is used. Also if there is a major difference between two versions we might want do two videos, but in most cases it would be possible to transfer the knowledge attained from the video to the version oneself use. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
About backing music: Google scans all videos uploaded to Youtube for backing music for the RIAA and publishers. They then offer the copythugs the options to silence soundtracks, put ads on the videos, track users, or do nothing. There is no legal requirement for them to do this, as the "safe harbor" provisions of the DCMA state that 3ed party webhosts need only remove content after getting formal notice to be totally shielded from lawsuits. Google probably feared their size would lead the US Congress to change that law. This was the original reason I left Youtube for Liveleak. Since then the new Google TOS came along to permit browser fingerprinting (added words "or device information") so now I won't even connect to any Google server except via Torbrowser, which is designed (via Torbutton) to resist fingerprinting attacks as well as obfuscate the IP address. I understand few here face the security issues I do, but if you use music on Google you risk losing the entire sountrack. Also users of this channel might have issues forming Youtube/Gmail accounts of their own as Google's tracking will show them as already adminsistering and logging into one account-and Google has a "real names" policy and tries to flag multiple accounts held by any one user. On 06/05/2013 at 3:21 AM, "Kaj Ailomaa" wrote: > >On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 09:01 AM, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: > >> Great initiative! With some guidelines on how to create them so >we get a >> similar look'n'feel I would try to do some tutorials. >> >> I vote strongly against background music in tutorials. >Especially if you >> do >> a voice over of what you are doing or when the tutorial is >concerning >> audio >> or video production, I think it's unnecessary and collide with >the >> information you are trying to get through. >> -- >> Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list >> Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > >You are welcome to create some, and in the process establish some >standards for how they should be edited. > >I think it would be enough with: > * intro page, with title and description of the tutorial (this >could > use a bit of artwork) > * temporary zoom-ins when attention to detail is required. > * subs explaining what happens on screen > >I'd rather not do voice overs unless they are fairly good quality, >and >the person speaks well enough English for it to be clearly >understandable. That's my initial standpoint anyway. >If we want voice overs, we could always add them afterwards too. > >I think it might be nice for some form of tutorials to have music >in the >background, but not any kind of music. It needs to be something >generic >enough to work on all people. > >If you're up to it, you are welcome to edit/oversee all of the >tutorials, if others help creating them. > >-- >Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list >Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 03:38 PM, Shubham Mishra wrote: > Are there any requirements for what we can have in the OS if we are > doing a video? For example I am still using the LTS 12.04. So my menus > might look a bit different from what we currently have. That might > confuse people > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel I don't think that is a problem. It's more important that the applications themselves haven't changed too much. Also, the menu is prone to changes between releases, so that is hard to avoid anyway. We should mark the videos by release as well, if it's important to do so. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
On 06/05/2013 06:06 AM, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: We now have a youtube channel for Ubuntu Studio https://www.youtube.com/user/ubuntustudiotube. It's linked to the Ubuntu Studio G+ page, so all page managers should also be able to manage the youtube channel. I'll announce it later on social sites, and mail lists. The primary reason for the channel is to host tutorials. So far we have no written down guidelines for how to do this. I'll prepare some later. But, for now, something like this should do: Category tree for tutorials: * main workflow (i.e., audio, video, graphics, etc) * sub workflow (i.e., recording, mixing, mastering, editing, etc) So, we could name one video something like: "audio - recording - setting up ardour for recording" or: "video - modelling - how to create a soccer ball". The videos don't need to be long. And we don't need to cover everything imaginable. Just some basic stuff to begin with. So, short and to the point is much appreciated. The videos should have: * recorded desktop - both audio and video from the actual workflow * english subs - describing what is going on Spoken english is voluntary. Not sure what we should do about background music, and such, but for now, I think we don't need to use it at all. Would be nice to have a pool of music that is suitable for using in the background (preferably something somewhat soft, that works for all age groups and style preferences), and that we can use on multiple videos. We should ask for submissions for this separately. Tutorials for audio related workflows probably don't require background music anyway. Are there any requirements for what we can have in the OS if we are doing a video? For example I am still using the LTS 12.04. So my menus might look a bit different from what we currently have. That might confuse people -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
great ! For open source software only, or for apps like Mixbus and Lightwork ? Antoine THOMAS Tél: 0663137906 2013/6/5 Ho Wan Chan > Hi Kaj, > > Of course the Ubuntu QA team has our own videos (recorded by the famous > Nicholas Skaggs). I guess though we can tutor people to use our own system, > For instance, we can show people how to do the Post-installation (Ubuntu > Studio) ISO test. > > Regards, > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) > Ubuntu Studio Release Manager > On 2013-6-5 下午3:47, "Kaj Ailomaa" wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 09:31 AM, Ho Wan Chan wrote: >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > interesting to see Kaj created a YouTube channel (as planned). Hurray! >> > >> > @Kaj: After my exams maybe I should do a video on testing (maybe with >> > Maik >> > too)… >> > >> > Regards, >> > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) >> > Ubuntu Studio Release Manager >> > On 2013-6-5 下午3:22, "Kaj Ailomaa" wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > >> >> Good idea about testing. >> But, I wonder, are there any already available for Ubuntu? >> In any case, we could have our own. >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list >> Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel >> > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > > -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > You are welcome to create some, and in the process establish some > standards for how they should be edited. > > > If you're up to it, you are welcome to edit/oversee all of the > tutorials, if others help creating them. > > It would be a great opportunity for me to give something back to the community! -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
Hi Kaj, Of course the Ubuntu QA team has our own videos (recorded by the famous Nicholas Skaggs). I guess though we can tutor people to use our own system, For instance, we can show people how to do the Post-installation (Ubuntu Studio) ISO test. Regards, Howard Chan (smartboyhw) Ubuntu Studio Release Manager On 2013-6-5 下午3:47, "Kaj Ailomaa" wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 09:31 AM, Ho Wan Chan wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > interesting to see Kaj created a YouTube channel (as planned). Hurray! > > > > @Kaj: After my exams maybe I should do a video on testing (maybe with > > Maik > > too)… > > > > Regards, > > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) > > Ubuntu Studio Release Manager > > On 2013-6-5 下午3:22, "Kaj Ailomaa" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Good idea about testing. > But, I wonder, are there any already available for Ubuntu? > In any case, we could have our own. > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 09:31 AM, Ho Wan Chan wrote: > Hi everyone, > > interesting to see Kaj created a YouTube channel (as planned). Hurray! > > @Kaj: After my exams maybe I should do a video on testing (maybe with > Maik > too)… > > Regards, > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) > Ubuntu Studio Release Manager > On 2013-6-5 下午3:22, "Kaj Ailomaa" wrote: > > > > > Good idea about testing. But, I wonder, are there any already available for Ubuntu? In any case, we could have our own. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
Hi everyone, interesting to see Kaj created a YouTube channel (as planned). Hurray! @Kaj: After my exams maybe I should do a video on testing (maybe with Maik too)… Regards, Howard Chan (smartboyhw) Ubuntu Studio Release Manager On 2013-6-5 下午3:22, "Kaj Ailomaa" wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 09:01 AM, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: > > > Great initiative! With some guidelines on how to create them so we get a > > similar look'n'feel I would try to do some tutorials. > > > > I vote strongly against background music in tutorials. Especially if you > > do > > a voice over of what you are doing or when the tutorial is concerning > > audio > > or video production, I think it's unnecessary and collide with the > > information you are trying to get through. > > -- > > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > > You are welcome to create some, and in the process establish some > standards for how they should be edited. > > I think it would be enough with: > * intro page, with title and description of the tutorial (this could > use a bit of artwork) > * temporary zoom-ins when attention to detail is required. > * subs explaining what happens on screen > > I'd rather not do voice overs unless they are fairly good quality, and > the person speaks well enough English for it to be clearly > understandable. That's my initial standpoint anyway. > If we want voice overs, we could always add them afterwards too. > > I think it might be nice for some form of tutorials to have music in the > background, but not any kind of music. It needs to be something generic > enough to work on all people. > > If you're up to it, you are welcome to edit/oversee all of the > tutorials, if others help creating them. > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 09:01 AM, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: > Great initiative! With some guidelines on how to create them so we get a > similar look'n'feel I would try to do some tutorials. > > I vote strongly against background music in tutorials. Especially if you > do > a voice over of what you are doing or when the tutorial is concerning > audio > or video production, I think it's unnecessary and collide with the > information you are trying to get through. > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel You are welcome to create some, and in the process establish some standards for how they should be edited. I think it would be enough with: * intro page, with title and description of the tutorial (this could use a bit of artwork) * temporary zoom-ins when attention to detail is required. * subs explaining what happens on screen I'd rather not do voice overs unless they are fairly good quality, and the person speaks well enough English for it to be clearly understandable. That's my initial standpoint anyway. If we want voice overs, we could always add them afterwards too. I think it might be nice for some form of tutorials to have music in the background, but not any kind of music. It needs to be something generic enough to work on all people. If you're up to it, you are welcome to edit/oversee all of the tutorials, if others help creating them. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Youtube channel created for Ubuntu Studio - contributors needed to submit tutorials
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > We now have a youtube channel for Ubuntu Studio > https://www.youtube.com/user/ubuntustudiotube. > It's linked to the Ubuntu Studio G+ page, so all page managers should > also be able to manage the youtube channel. > > I'll announce it later on social sites, and mail lists. > > The primary reason for the channel is to host tutorials. So far we have > no written down guidelines for how to do this. I'll prepare some later. > But, for now, something like this should do: > > Category tree for tutorials: > > * main workflow (i.e., audio, video, graphics, etc) > * sub workflow (i.e., recording, mixing, mastering, editing, etc) > > So, we could name one video something like: "audio - recording - setting > up ardour for recording" > or: "video - modelling - how to create a soccer ball". > > The videos don't need to be long. And we don't need to cover everything > imaginable. Just some basic stuff to begin with. So, short and to the > point is much appreciated. > > The videos should have: > * recorded desktop - both audio and video from the actual workflow > * english subs - describing what is going on > > Spoken english is voluntary. > > Not sure what we should do about background music, and such, but for > now, I think we don't need to use it at all. > Would be nice to have a pool of music that is suitable for using in the > background (preferably something somewhat soft, that works for all age > groups and style preferences), and that we can use on multiple videos. > We should ask for submissions for this separately. > Tutorials for audio related workflows probably don't require background > music anyway. > Great initiative! With some guidelines on how to create them so we get a similar look'n'feel I would try to do some tutorials. I vote strongly against background music in tutorials. Especially if you do a voice over of what you are doing or when the tutorial is concerning audio or video production, I think it's unnecessary and collide with the information you are trying to get through. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
