Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 20:28 -0700, Len Ovens wrote
> I'm dropping this one into the package:
> ubuntustudio-installer-no-background.inkscape.svg

After sleeping over it I like it myself, I wasn't completely satisfied
yesterday, I'm only unhappy about the position of the arrow and on the
right side of the arrowhead is an unwanted cut. The arrow should be a
little bit more to the right, less in the middle, but I will fight the
obsessional neurosis and keep it up imperfectly.

Next time perhaps better and without using the artwork of others. The
last time I wanted to contribute an icon, I didn't finish it ;).



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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-29 Thread Len Ovens

On Sun, July 28, 2013 11:06 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> My 2 Cents,

I'm dropping this one into the package:
ubuntustudio-installer-no-background.inkscape.svg

It is in our set of branches at:
https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio/ubuntustudio-installer
Further changes if you wish to refine things, can be submitted as a
merge... set me as review.

it can be tested from my ppa:
https://launchpad.net/~len-ovenwerks/+archive/ppa
(after it builds the binary... in this case repackages things)


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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-28 Thread Len Ovens

On Sun, July 28, 2013 9:27 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 09:05 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
>> This one says that because of it's simplicity it can't be
>> copy-written.
>
> Wow, it's not simple it's a worth protecting logo, it combines the
> "Circle of Friends" with symbols that represent audio, a bobbin or a
> speaker and sound waves. What e.g. does the Swoosh, the Nike logo stand
> for? Its nothing but a comic speedline.

I think that is a difference between licensing and trademark. That is, it
means ubuntustudio, but the creator has no right to say how it can be used
outside of that. In other words anyone can use it without specifying
licensing, but it would be wrong to use it for referring to "Joe's Tire
Service". It still means UbuntuStudio.

What I don't know, is that this is too simple to license, how anyone can
own a font...


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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 09:05 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
> This one says that because of it's simplicity it can't be
> copy-written.

Wow, it's not simple it's a worth protecting logo, it combines the
"Circle of Friends" with symbols that represent audio, a bobbin or a
speaker and sound waves. What e.g. does the Swoosh, the Nike logo stand
for? Its nothing but a comic speedline.



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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-28 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
Please post any findings you do. I did a quick research as well but didn't
actually find much concerning the Ubuntu Studio logo in particular. The
Ubuntu guidelines only include information about well yeah, Ubuntu:
http://design.ubuntu.com/brand/ubuntu-logo and
http://www.canonical.com/intellectual-property-policy



On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

>  Forwarded Message 
> From: Ralf Mardorf 
> To: ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon
> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:47:05 +0200
>
> On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 08:29 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
> > I will have to go and look for licensing on each one then. The
> > elementary icons are GPL2 and the logo is CC (3 I think). Does anyone
> > know if that will cause problems? And how do I license the result
> > then?
>
> I planned to do some fine tuning later, assumed there won't be a
> thunderstorm too close to my home. It doesn't matter if you'll use it or
> not, it's a chance for me to learn how to do vector graphics, since I'm
> used to pixel graphics.
>
> If there should be license issues, I (or anybody else) could replace the
> "elementary" icons.
>
> I'll do some research regarding to the licenses too.
>
> To be continued...
>
> Ralf
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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-28 Thread Len Ovens

On Sun, July 28, 2013 4:16 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 13:06 +0200, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:
>> Nice work!
>
> Thank you, but the real work was done by others, since I used the
> following sources:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Ubuntustudio_v3_logo_only.svg

This one says that because of it's simplicity it can't be copy-written.
Though of course it goes beyond that. However, it is not then CC and could
be used as part of something that is gpl2 (which the rest of the package
is).



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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
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Subject: Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:47:05 +0200

On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 08:29 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
> I will have to go and look for licensing on each one then. The
> elementary icons are GPL2 and the logo is CC (3 I think). Does anyone
> know if that will cause problems? And how do I license the result
> then?

I planned to do some fine tuning later, assumed there won't be a
thunderstorm too close to my home. It doesn't matter if you'll use it or
not, it's a chance for me to learn how to do vector graphics, since I'm
used to pixel graphics.

If there should be license issues, I (or anybody else) could replace the
"elementary" icons.

I'll do some research regarding to the licenses too.

To be continued...

Ralf


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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-28 Thread Len Ovens

On Sun, July 28, 2013 4:16 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 13:06 +0200, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:
>> Nice work!
>
> Thank you, but the real work was done by others, since I used the
> following sources:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Ubuntustudio_v3_logo_only.svg
> /usr/share/icons/elementary/devices/64/drive-harddisk.svg
> /usr/share/icons/elementary/actions/64/media-import-audio-cd.svg

I will have to go and look for licensing on each one then. The elementary
icons are GPL2 and the logo is CC (3 I think). Does anyone know if that
will cause problems? And how do I license the result then?

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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 13:06 +0200, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:
> Nice work!

Thank you, but the real work was done by others, since I used the
following sources:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Ubuntustudio_v3_logo_only.svg
/usr/share/icons/elementary/devices/64/drive-harddisk.svg
/usr/share/icons/elementary/actions/64/media-import-audio-cd.svg

Btw. if the icon should be ok, I would do some fine tuning, e.g. add an
opaque background to ensure that the logo is visible what ever the
background color is, since at the moment it's transparent, just the PNGs
are white.


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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-28 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
Nice work!

On 28 jul 2013, at 09:31, Ralf Mardorf  wrote:

> On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 08:30 +0200, I wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 03:29:27 +0200, Len Ovens  wrote:
>>> On Sat, July 27, 2013 4:47 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 16:17 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
> 22X22

 The icon I started need to be fixed to fit to this size. The US logo
 anyway should be larger and the drive smaller. For this size the drive
 should be removed, for this icon or a brand new.
>>>
>>> Ya, I took the drive out and made the arrow a bit bigger... but still
>>> small enough so the logo is still see-able. I think I will drop it in
>>> that way for a first try anyway. I may use the one with the drive in it
>>> for the bigger sizes... that would show up in unity or gnome shell or
>>> some of the
>>> KDE launchers.
>>
>> Or use the same icon for both, but e.g. show less of the circle of
>> friends, but more of the CD picture, IOW edit the opaqueness and perhaps
>> move the layers. I'll take a look at it again later.
>
> One icon for different sizes perhaps could be similar to the attached
> one.
> 
> 
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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 09:30 +0200, I wrote:
> One icon for different sizes perhaps could be similar to the attached
> one.

I only would remove the blue spot in the CD-hole and change the colour
of the arrow's border from green to blue-grey or change the color of the
whole arrow to the complementary color of the Ubuntu Studio logo, IOW to
orange, resp. to the Kandinsky and btw. Ralf complementary color to
blue, yellow instead of orange.

However, even the blue spot and the green boarder are ok, it anyway
needs fine tuning.

2 Cents,
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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf

On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 03:29:27 +0200, Len Ovens  wrote:

On Sat, July 27, 2013 4:47 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 16:17 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:

22X22


The icon I started need to be fixed to fit to this size. The US logo
anyway should be larger and the drive smaller. For this size the drive
should be removed, for this icon or a brand new.


Ya, I took the drive out and made the arrow a bit bigger... but still
small enough so the logo is still see-able. I think I will drop it in  
that way for a first try anyway. I may use the one with the drive in it  
for the bigger sizes... that would show up in unity or gnome shell or  
some of the

KDE launchers.


Or use the same icon for both, but e.g. show less of the circle of  
friends, but more of the CD picture, IOW edit the opaqueness and perhaps  
move the layers. I'll take a look at it again later.



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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-27 Thread Len Ovens

On Sat, July 27, 2013 4:47 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 16:17 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
>> 22X22
>
> The icon I started need to be fixed to fit to this size. The US logo
> anyway should be larger and the drive smaller. For this size the drive
> should be removed, for this icon or a brand new.

Ya, I took the drive out and made the arrow a bit bigger... but still
small enough so the logo is still see-able. I think I will drop it in that
way for a first try anyway. I may use the one with the drive in it for the
bigger sizes... that would show up in unity or gnome shell or some of the
KDE launchers.


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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 16:17 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
> 22X22

The icon I started need to be fixed to fit to this size. The US logo
anyway should be larger and the drive smaller. For this size the drive
should be removed, for this icon or a brand new.


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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 16:17 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
> Actually I have downloaded yours. I want to see how it looks when it is
> small. It will end up 22X22.

Everything is resizeable and the drive could be replaced by what ever
icon seem is the default, so it would fit to the other icons. Light and
shadows etc. could be add and colours need a fix.

A thunderstorm is coming up, so I'll shut down the computer for a
while :(.


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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-27 Thread Len Ovens

On Sat, July 27, 2013 3:54 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 15:37 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
>> On Sat, July 27, 2013 3:05 pm, Shubham Mishra wrote:
>>
>> >> I need an icon for our installer. This will be used in the menu for
>> any
>>
>> > I'm sorry but I'm moving this tuesday. Lot's of preparations going on
>> > right now, and I don't know how long it'll take for me to get an
>> > internet connection over there.
>>
>> No problem. I can get something that works. If you come up with
>> something
>> better later, it is trivial to switch.
>
> If no icon is needed any more, I'll delete what I started. *?*

Actually I have downloaded yours. I want to see how it looks when it is
small. It will end up 22X22.


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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-27 Thread Len Ovens

On Sat, July 27, 2013 3:05 pm, Shubham Mishra wrote:

>> I need an icon for our installer. This will be used in the menu for any

> I'm sorry but I'm moving this tuesday. Lot's of preparations going on
> right now, and I don't know how long it'll take for me to get an
> internet connection over there.

No problem. I can get something that works. If you come up with something
better later, it is trivial to switch.


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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-27 Thread Shubham Mishra

On 07/27/2013 08:46 AM, Len Ovens wrote:

Mish or anyone else:

I need an icon for our installer. This will be used in the menu for any of
our extra software installer items as well as for our ubuntustudio meta
installer. (both use the same software now)

I am going to do the initial release using our logo or one of the generic
installer icons.

Most of the generic installer icons are just a think down arrow. (see the
icons for Ubuntu Software Center or Synaptic to see what I mean) I was
thinking that putting such an arrow on top of our logo might work. Or if
the space inside the arrow had the logo colours inverse. The arrow could
be bigger too or something completely new.

My hope is that this would be a persons first install if they are
installing some of our metas in another flavour as it takes all the
guesswork out of which metas are up to date and it makes sense to install.



I'm sorry but I'm moving this tuesday. Lot's of preparations going on 
right now, and I don't know how long it'll take for me to get an 
internet connection over there.


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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-07-26 at 20:16 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
> I need an icon for our installer.

I suspect you want a vector graphic icon and not a pixel graphic icon?



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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 08:47 +0200, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:
> What is CoF?

Circle of Friends? aka the Ubuntu Studio Logo, that isn't really the
"Circle of Friends".


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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 08:47 +0200, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:
> What is CoF?

custom designed font?


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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-26 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
What is CoF?

/Jimmy

On 27 jul 2013, at 08:38, Kaj Ailomaa  wrote:
>
> An obvious icon would be to combine a package and our CoF.

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Re: ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-26 Thread Kaj Ailomaa


On Sat, Jul 27, 2013, at 05:16 AM, Len Ovens wrote:
> Mish or anyone else:
> 
> I need an icon for our installer. This will be used in the menu for any
> of
> our extra software installer items as well as for our ubuntustudio meta
> installer. (both use the same software now)
> 
> I am going to do the initial release using our logo or one of the generic
> installer icons.
> 
> Most of the generic installer icons are just a think down arrow. (see the
> icons for Ubuntu Software Center or Synaptic to see what I mean) I was
> thinking that putting such an arrow on top of our logo might work. Or if
> the space inside the arrow had the logo colours inverse. The arrow could
> be bigger too or something completely new.
> 
> My hope is that this would be a persons first install if they are
> installing some of our metas in another flavour as it takes all the
> guesswork out of which metas are up to date and it makes sense to
> install.
> 
> 

An obvious icon would be to combine a package and our CoF.

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ubuntustudio-installer icon

2013-07-26 Thread Len Ovens
Mish or anyone else:

I need an icon for our installer. This will be used in the menu for any of
our extra software installer items as well as for our ubuntustudio meta
installer. (both use the same software now)

I am going to do the initial release using our logo or one of the generic
installer icons.

Most of the generic installer icons are just a think down arrow. (see the
icons for Ubuntu Software Center or Synaptic to see what I mean) I was
thinking that putting such an arrow on top of our logo might work. Or if
the space inside the arrow had the logo colours inverse. The arrow could
be bigger too or something completely new.

My hope is that this would be a persons first install if they are
installing some of our metas in another flavour as it takes all the
guesswork out of which metas are up to date and it makes sense to install.



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