Re: Jack and SB-awe soundcard

2008-03-28 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On Friday 28 March 2008, Mike Reynolds wrote:
> One other issue going with creative anything is for recording. Everything
> I've been reading about creative cards is that the latency makes them
> pretty much unusable for recording.

I guess it depends on how high your expectations are.  With my current setup, 
every time I reboot, it's a crapshoot whether I'm going to come up with my 
emu10k1 or my ice1712 as the card JACK is using.  I once went a month before 
I noticed JACK was talking to the emu10k1.  I did eventually notice, and go 
ah ha, but they're not exactly light years apart in performance.

Considering the one was about $100 and the other about $15, the SB Live 5.1 
Value Edition is really pretty damn good.  It's a pity they have become 
unobtanium.
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Re: Jack and SB-awe soundcard

2008-03-28 Thread Mike Reynolds
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:50:47 +, "Toby Smithe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Ray Edester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > I have used Creative's Sound Blaster cards for as long as I've had a PC
> >  and never a problem. DOS, Winsloth and several distros of Linux.
> 
> The Audigy line are pretty good, and have a decent feature set. I'd
> recommend going for the Audigy 2 ZS, if possible, rather than the
> Audigy SE.
> 
> Two more words: *not* X-Fi. They do not work *at all*.
> 


I have the Audigy2 ZS. It works great for games and sounds good as well. I have
the breakout box too. I haven't been able to get anything on the breakout box
going. Anyone have any links for how to get it working?

One other issue going with creative anything is for recording. Everything I've
been reading about creative cards is that the latency makes them pretty much
unusable for recording.

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Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?

2008-03-28 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On Friday 28 March 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> Here's what it looks like now.
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~documentarian/demo2.jpg

And yeah, the KDE file dialog colors are crap, and I can't figure out why.

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Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?

2008-03-28 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Cory K. wrote:
> Something has flipped around because QT apps such as JACK Control are no
> longer using the colors from our theme.
> 
> Does anyone know what might have changed that in Hardy? (sorry, I know
> nothing about QT)
> 
> I'd like to fix this for the people who are gonna undoubtedly cry about
> it but if I get no help that's how its gonna stay.

Something that might be worth confirming, for the discussion -- is this
true just for the UbuntuStudio theme, or true also for the regular Hardy
GNOME theme?


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Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?

2008-03-28 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On Friday 28 March 2008, Cory K. wrote:
> This is why I think there's been a systemic change somewhere. I was
> hoping it would be the simple matter of installing some lib but it's not
> looking good.

I dicked around with KConfig too, and nothing changed Skype one iota.

It does look interesting to tell KDE to use the GNOME icon set (interesting as 
in totally pukey, but I'm trying to look at this as a unified presentation, 
and it's subtly more unified now.)

I also have a KDE "Ubuntu Studio" color scheme now.

If I go one bigger and supply a default rosegardenrc that has the bundled 
theme option turned off, the colors come out even better.

None of this actually affects Skype or QJackCtl at all, which both seem 
totally bullet proof as far as getting their presentation to change, but I 
just turned all of this back to factory defaults to compare the difference 
running Rosegarden and QSynth, and the difference is very striking compared 
to a user with no .qt or .kde directories taking the config from the lib 
default settings.

It almost seems a good enough answer to all those whiners who keep demanding a 
GTK port.  I wouldn't do this in such a way that these new settings would get 
pulled in for a user installing Ubuntu Studio on top of something else, but 
for someone installing off your DVD and expected to be running GNOME, I think 
maybe I haven't wasted my time today after all.

Here's what it looks like now.

http://home.comcast.net/~documentarian/demo2.jpg

I haven't tarballed the new .kde directory, because I have to hand edit some 
stuff out of this to make a good /etc/skel template, and I have a vague 
feeling you're about to tell me this was all a futile exercise, because you 
were looking for some other answer to this question, and this whole approach 
is totally untenable for some reason.

But maybe not.

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Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?

2008-03-28 Thread Cory K.
D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On Friday 28 March 2008, Cory K. wrote:
>   
>> http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6294/screenshotdx6.png
>> 
>
> So much for that, I guess.  It doesn't look like that at all (I guess I have 
> the same Skype; I had to go download it, and create a dummy account just to 
> see this), and seems to have the same general colors as QJackCtl, which I 
> can't get rid of either.
>
> Trying one more thought...
>   

This is why I think there's been a systemic change somewhere. I was
hoping it would be the simple matter of installing some lib but it's not
looking good.

-Cory \m/

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Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?

2008-03-28 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On Friday 28 March 2008, Cory K. wrote:

> http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6294/screenshotdx6.png

So much for that, I guess.  It doesn't look like that at all (I guess I have 
the same Skype; I had to go download it, and create a dummy account just to 
see this), and seems to have the same general colors as QJackCtl, which I 
can't get rid of either.

Trying one more thought...

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Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?

2008-03-28 Thread Cory K.
D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On Friday 28 March 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
>   
>> Anyway, sorry to say, I gave it the ol' college try dude, and even risked
>> Mr. Winky, but I can't figure this out.
>> 
>
> I've had another look, and the reason I can't figure this out is because I'm 
> really not sure what the problem is, or if there actually is a problem here.  
> I've got KDE back on that box now, and going back and forth between KDE and 
> GNOME, the look and feel of these QT3 apps is definitely changing.   They 
> don't look GNOME native, but they look quite different under GNOME, and 
> memory tells me that might actually be how they looked on Gutsy.  I'm not 
> sure.
>
> Can you or somebody please send me some screenshots (the "window under 
> cursor" 
> capture mode would be great, if the GNOME equivalent of KSnapShot has this 
> mode) of QJackCtl and anything else worth paying special attention to?
>
> If possible, I'd like to see:
>
> A) What it's supposed to look like when everything is normal (eg. a shot of 
> this in its native GNOME environment on Gutsy, or a Hardy at a point in time 
> when everything is behaving)
>
> B) What it looks like in this new state I'm trying to fix to make it go back 
> to looking like A
>
> I'm thinking I will determine there is no problem on this particular 
> installation, but even from this particular state, I can probably make the 
> QT3 apps look more GNOME-like, perhaps even moreso than they had ever been 
> before, so this whole exercise probably won't have been for nothing after 
> all.
>
> Oh, and thanks for the words of support Luis.
>   

Here's a screenshot for Skype on Gutsy. (best I can do) If I could get
an older version of Hardy I think I could show you but I can't.

Now, Skype on Hardy looks like Clearlooks/QT.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6294/screenshotdx6.png

-Cory \m/


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Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?

2008-03-28 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On Friday 28 March 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:

> If possible, I'd like to see:

This is probably no longer necessary.

The list will puke on my large attachments, so here, look at this and tell me 
you aren't happy with the result:

http://home.comcast.net/~documentarian/demo.png

I don't know what this used to look like, but I would hazard QT apps never 
looked so much like the native GNOME stuff on Ubuntu Studio.  (I can't fix 
the colors in QJackCtl though.  They seem hard-coded.)

I'll deal with the rest in private with Cory.
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Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?

2008-03-28 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On Friday 28 March 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> Anyway, sorry to say, I gave it the ol' college try dude, and even risked
> Mr. Winky, but I can't figure this out.

I've had another look, and the reason I can't figure this out is because I'm 
really not sure what the problem is, or if there actually is a problem here.  
I've got KDE back on that box now, and going back and forth between KDE and 
GNOME, the look and feel of these QT3 apps is definitely changing.   They 
don't look GNOME native, but they look quite different under GNOME, and 
memory tells me that might actually be how they looked on Gutsy.  I'm not 
sure.

Can you or somebody please send me some screenshots (the "window under cursor" 
capture mode would be great, if the GNOME equivalent of KSnapShot has this 
mode) of QJackCtl and anything else worth paying special attention to?

If possible, I'd like to see:

A) What it's supposed to look like when everything is normal (eg. a shot of 
this in its native GNOME environment on Gutsy, or a Hardy at a point in time 
when everything is behaving)

B) What it looks like in this new state I'm trying to fix to make it go back 
to looking like A

I'm thinking I will determine there is no problem on this particular 
installation, but even from this particular state, I can probably make the 
QT3 apps look more GNOME-like, perhaps even moreso than they had ever been 
before, so this whole exercise probably won't have been for nothing after 
all.

Oh, and thanks for the words of support Luis.
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Timemachine, spooky indeed....

2008-03-28 Thread Asmo Koskinen

Spooky sound from past...

http://www.firstsounds.org/sounds/index.php

Best Regards Asmo Koskinen.

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Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?

2008-03-28 Thread Luis de Bethencourt
Sorry to hear about your job situation. I hope it all works out well.

Luis

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:16 AM, D. Michael McIntyre
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 27 March 2008, Cory K. wrote:
>
> > Well, once its reattached you can do porn. :P
>
>  LMAO!!
>
>  D. Michael McIntyre Un-Cut
>
>  Starring: D. Michael McIntyre, Silicone Jane, Phaque Huterz, Tubit Skank,
>  Crack Addict #1, Crack Addict #3, Crack Addict #14, Ron Jeremy, Peter North,
>  Tatas the Bodacious, and That Midget Girl from The Naked Mile
>  Format: Blu-Ray
>  Length: 12 hours!
>  Price:  50 for $5
>
>
>  > No problem. I'll be around.
>
>  Lucky for you that American Axle is on strike, and I'm not working.  My job
>  situation totally sucks. I'm going to run out of money soon, and then I don't
>  know what I'm going to do.  I'd like to say it's time to quit pissing my life
>  and my true talent away driving an 18-wheeler, but the last time I went
>  through all of this, I played every card in the deck, and guess what I wound
>  up doing to survive?  Right.  Driving the damn 18-wheeler.  It turns out my
>  true talent is specializing in everything nobody pays you money to do.
>
>  "We know you wrote the book on Rosegarden, Mr. McIntyre, but how are you with
>  Microsoft Flumbuzzle 3000?"
>
>  "Does that run on Linux?"
>
>  "What is Linux?"
>
>  Sigh.
>
>  O Shuttleworth, I need rescuing badly.
>
>
>
>  Uh...
>
>  Anyway, sorry to say, I gave it the ol' college try dude, and even risked Mr.
>  Winky, but I can't figure this out.  I guess you're whining about the way
>  QJackCtl doesn't look all dark gray like the native stuff.  All I can find is
>  stuff that makes GTKn apps look more like QT, and not the reverse.  I thought
>  looking at everything from a GNOME-native perspective might give me some
>  insight, but no, I have no clue.
>
>  A monumental waste of effort and energy, I'm afraid, but I do hope you won't
>  get all pissy about how nobody is ever willing to help you.
>
>  I tried.
>
>  BTW, I had a broken window manager again, and no Kubuntu influences this 
> time.
>  Started with plain Ubuntu, installed "ubuntustudio-*" and when I logged back
>  in, no window manager was in evidence.  Same problem I have on an unofficial
>  Kubuntu Studio Gutsty.  Doesn't look like it's related to swapping GNOME out
>  after all.
>
>  All we are is piss in the wind.  --Kanvas
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