Trouble with setting up Jack
Hi I have Ubuntustudio installed and previously had some of the audio production stuff on Ubuntu 6.10 and Debian. I have never been able to get Jack happening therefore have not started any type of production because i have no sound. I would appreciate someone that just doesn't send me a link as I have read all the help pages. I don't understand them. I have been battling for months and have a background in audio using a studio(Mac and protools). I have also used a lot of programs in windows for years like acid pro, free pro tools, Ejay(Hip Hop), Cool Edit etc. I have also noticed that there are a lot of apps in this distro that have the name Jack so I have no idea which is which. Carla - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.-- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Trouble with setting up Jack
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:11:08 +1000 (EST) Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have Ubuntustudio installed and previously had some of the audio production stuff on Ubuntu 6.10 and Debian. I have never been able to get Jack happening therefore have not started any type of production because i have no sound. I would appreciate someone that just doesn't send me a link as I have read all the help pages. I don't understand them. I have been battling for months and have a background in audio using a studio(Mac and protools). I have also used a lot of programs in windows for years like acid pro, free pro tools, Ejay(Hip Hop), Cool Edit etc. I have also noticed that there are a lot of apps in this distro that have the name Jack so I have no idea which is which. Carla And a link :P https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/JackQuickStart I started to write that tutorial for people who are new and try to get jack up and running. However, it is still far from finished. You could try to follow it, and write a mail when you are stuck somewhere. Please provide further information, like: What is your audio interface? Did you install Ubuntu Studio from DVD? What did you do so far? Also, you could try to get almost-realtime answers (if you are lucky..) on IRC. Channel #ubuntustudio on freenode. Best Regards Philipp -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Trouble with setting up Jack
OK I have 8.04 Ubuntu studio. I have soundonboard which is AC '97 and a Intel 1.8gig cpu, 512mhz rambus. Um how much more details? I can get a full report as I have a program on the windows drive that does that. I will be getting a proper soundcard at some point. I want to be able to make music with linux but I don't know what all these programs do yet. I used to use loops a lot but want to get more into making my own beats. I will use whatever program to record vocals and use effects on them. I make Hip Hop basically. Carla antoine clémot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! You have to give some details on the distribution you work with, your soundcard and your hardware, and what do u want exactly??? 2008/6/8 Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I have Ubuntustudio installed and previously had some of the audio production stuff on Ubuntu 6.10 and Debian. I have never been able to get Jack happening therefore have not started any type of production because i have no sound. I would appreciate someone that just doesn't send me a link as I have read all the help pages. I don't understand them. I have been battling for months and have a background in audio using a studio(Mac and protools). I have also used a lot of programs in windows for years like acid pro, free pro tools, Ejay(Hip Hop), Cool Edit etc. I have also noticed that there are a lot of apps in this distro that have the name Jack so I have no idea which is which. Carla - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.-- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Trouble with setting up Jack
To make easily drums you can use hydrogen. You can use the soundbanks and add some files in .wav or .flac (samples, anything you want but it reads it entirely, that is until the end of your audio file). Zynaddsubfx (a modular synthesizer) has some interesting soundbanks, and you can change the sound like you want! Use the virtual keyboard (button VKB) to play the sounds with your keyboard. To do multiple tracks use ardour or audacity (the last is less convinient 'cose you don't have a mixer to manage your different tracks, but maybe easier to use at the beginnig ;). With Jackrack you can play FX on your voice or whatever you want in realtime (the latency depending on your system and soundcard). Qjackctl is a soundserver allowing you to connect the inputs/outputs of your soundcard (as well as the ones of your audio softwares) in any ways you want it to work. It synchronizes all that. Follow the tutorial to make qjackctl work. I have only one bad new : under 8.04 ubuntu studio Jack is really not stable... I just moved to Studio64 (and it works well) : try both!!! 2008/6/8 Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK I have 8.04 Ubuntu studio. I have soundonboard which is AC '97 and a Intel 1.8gig cpu, 512mhz rambus. Um how much more details? I can get a full report as I have a program on the windows drive that does that. I will be getting a proper soundcard at some point. I want to be able to make music with linux but I don't know what all these programs do yet. I used to use loops a lot but want to get more into making my own beats. I will use whatever program to record vocals and use effects on them. I make Hip Hop basically. Carla *antoine clémot [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Hi! You have to give some details on the distribution you work with, your soundcard and your hardware, and what do u want exactly??? 2008/6/8 Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I have Ubuntustudio installed and previously had some of the audio production stuff on Ubuntu 6.10 and Debian. I have never been able to get Jack happening therefore have not started any type of production because i have no sound. I would appreciate someone that just doesn't send me a link as I have read all the help pages. I don't understand them. I have been battling for months and have a background in audio using a studio(Mac and protools). I have also used a lot of programs in windows for years like acid pro, free pro tools, Ejay(Hip Hop), Cool Edit etc. I have also noticed that there are a lot of apps in this distro that have the name Jack so I have no idea which is which. Carla -- Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email addresshttp://au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/taglines/au/y7mail/default/*http://au.mail.yahoo.com/?p1=nip2=generalp3=taglinep4=other . -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email addresshttp://au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/taglines/au/y7mail/default/*http://au.mail.yahoo.com/?p1=nip2=generalp3=taglinep4=other . -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Trouble with setting up Jack
Hi I installed from the dvd and as I am reading the howto, it has the kernel that is mentioned. What is an audio interface? OK I have jack control opened and only got as far as the interface. In the drop down box there is default, hw:0, plughw:0 and /dev/dsp . I have never done the IRC thing. Is it like using an IM? Sorry I have no idea. Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:11:08 +1000 (EST) Carla wrote: Hi I have Ubuntustudio installed and previously had some of the audio production stuff on Ubuntu 6.10 and Debian. I have never been able to get Jack happening therefore have not started any type of production because i have no sound. I would appreciate someone that just doesn't send me a link as I have read all the help pages. I don't understand them. I have been battling for months and have a background in audio using a studio(Mac and protools). I have also used a lot of programs in windows for years like acid pro, free pro tools, Ejay(Hip Hop), Cool Edit etc. I have also noticed that there are a lot of apps in this distro that have the name Jack so I have no idea which is which. Carla And a link :P https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/JackQuickStart I started to write that tutorial for people who are new and try to get jack up and running. However, it is still far from finished. You could try to follow it, and write a mail when you are stuck somewhere. Please provide further information, like: What is your audio interface? Did you install Ubuntu Studio from DVD? What did you do so far? Also, you could try to get almost-realtime answers (if you are lucky..) on IRC. Channel #ubuntustudio on freenode. Best Regards Philipp -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.-- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Trouble with setting up Jack
Yeah I was playing a bit with Hydrogen last night and I know I have used programs like it in windows way back in the past. Don't remember the names. I lost a lot of stuff due to computer problems that went on forever with the OS (windows) or whatever infection being at fault probably. Oh and software conflicts. Ah so I can add filesm didn't know that ok. Thanks! So I can use my KB like a piano is that what your saying? Wow sounds good. Would like to try that. Yeah ardour and audacity are what I have been mostly looking at. I dabbled with audacity quite a bit. Just some simple editing and converting files like wav to mp3. I understand ardour is like protools but because I haven't got sound I can't give it a good go yet. Thanks for the explanation about jackrackthat would be a good edition especially if it has a vocador...or however you spell that word. Nice old school effect for the voice. Qjackctl-is that just like Jack? Gee i can't download any os's as I have a very low internet usage. Damn australia...backwards country. I do have dynebolic that someone also downloaded for me but gee I have asked too many favours to get what I have. Is it really that unstable. E I would have to find new friends to get another os. It is just that here in Australia we are all restricted by small usage limits. Sending for an OS on dvd is also not an option for me as I am broke(pension) and struggling badly. Carla antoine clémot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To make easily drums you can use hydrogen. You can use the soundbanks and add some files in .wav or .flac (samples, anything you want but it reads it entirely, that is until the end of your audio file). Zynaddsubfx (a modular synthesizer) has some interesting soundbanks, and you can change the sound like you want! Use the virtual keyboard (button VKB) to play the sounds with your keyboard. To do multiple tracks use ardour or audacity (the last is less convinient 'cose you don't have a mixer to manage your different tracks, but maybe easier to use at the beginnig ;). With Jackrack you can play FX on your voice or whatever you want in realtime (the latency depending on your system and soundcard). Qjackctl is a soundserver allowing you to connect the inputs/outputs of your soundcard (as well as the ones of your audio softwares) in any ways you want it to work. It synchronizes all that. Follow the tutorial to make qjackctl work. I have only one bad new : under 8.04 ubuntu studio Jack is really not stable... I just moved to Studio64 (and it works well) : try both!!! 2008/6/8 Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK I have 8.04 Ubuntu studio. I have soundonboard which is AC '97 and a Intel 1.8gig cpu, 512mhz rambus. Um how much more details? I can get a full report as I have a program on the windows drive that does that. I will be getting a proper soundcard at some point. I want to be able to make music with linux but I don't know what all these programs do yet. I used to use loops a lot but want to get more into making my own beats. I will use whatever program to record vocals and use effects on them. I make Hip Hop basically. Carla antoine clémot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! You have to give some details on the distribution you work with, your soundcard and your hardware, and what do u want exactly??? 2008/6/8 Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I have Ubuntustudio installed and previously had some of the audio production stuff on Ubuntu 6.10 and Debian. I have never been able to get Jack happening therefore have not started any type of production because i have no sound. I would appreciate someone that just doesn't send me a link as I have read all the help pages. I don't understand them. I have been battling for months and have a background in audio using a studio(Mac and protools). I have also used a lot of programs in windows for years like acid pro, free pro tools, Ejay(Hip Hop), Cool Edit etc. I have also noticed that there are a lot of apps in this distro that have the name Jack so I have no idea which is which. Carla - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
Re: Trouble with setting up Jack
Yeah I am afraid the visual side of my brain works better but so far so good with the tutorial. There are terms that I am still learning. OK I picked default as I do not know which to pick from the drop down box. The numbers are yellow and not red. It get's to about 70 something percentage and drops, rises, drops etc. Yes I realise I will have to put a proper soundcard in. I will hopefully get one this week but it depends on finances. I have a really good network of people around me that can get me a good one. It won't be the best one ofcourse but maybe it will. Anyway when I am recording I am using a microphone. I don't record musical instruments at all. I also don't use a lot of tracks when making music after all I am from the old skool of Hip Hop where music is not the focus. It s about the lyrics. C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:57:35 +1000 (EST) Carla wrote: Hi I installed from the dvd and as I am reading the howto, it has the kernel that is mentioned. What is an audio interface? OK I have jack control opened and only got as far as the interface. In the drop down box there is default, hw:0, plughw:0 and /dev/dsp . I have never done the IRC thing. Is it like using an IM? Sorry I have no idea. Carla Hi Carla, so far, so good. There are no pictures in the tutorial yet, so it's not that easy to follow. An audio-interface is the same as a soundcard, it's just a different name. Your 'soundcard', for example, isn't a card, so some people like to use audio-interface instead. So you need to choose the interface the jack server should use. Try to click on the little besides the interface option, try to identify your onboard soundcard and select it. If you can't identify it, try (default). Then try what the tutorial suggests: tick the realtime checkbox, set the Frames/Period to 1024 and the Periods/Buffer to 3. Click the OK-button to close the setup dialogue, press the Start button and see if the jack-server starts. If it does, good. If not, there's something wrong. When it is running, look at the display. If there's a red number that's increasing, you need to tune your settings, else you'll experience dropouts. Be aware that it's rather hard to get good performance out of jack with onboard audio interfaces. Regards, Philipp -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.-- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Trouble with setting up Jack
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:41:55 +1000 (EST) Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I am afraid the visual side of my brain works better but so far so good with the tutorial. There are terms that I am still learning. OK I picked default as I do not know which to pick from the drop down box. The numbers are yellow and not red. It get's to about 70 something percentage and drops, rises, drops etc. Ok, as long as there is only green 0 (0) below 'Started' and no red numbers, everything's fine. The yellow % numbers are cpu-load. It shouldn't be at 70% but rather fairly below 10%. Yes I realise I will have to put a proper soundcard in. I will hopefully get one this week but it depends on finances. I have a really good network of people around me that can get me a good one. It won't be the best one ofcourse but maybe it will. When getting a soundcard, make sure it is compatible. The best place to check that is: http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main Anyway when I am recording I am using a microphone. I don't record musical instruments at all. I also don't use a lot of tracks when making music after all I am from the old skool of Hip Hop where music is not the focus. It s about the lyrics. C The main strengths of the jack system are the possibility to get really low latencies and very flexible routing. If you don't have high requirements, single applications using alsa might suffice. For loop-based and straight stuff, lmms could be a all-in-one option (similar to fruity loops), but beware that it's still pretty early in development and that it's not in Ubuntu Studio by default. Try and test, find out what works for you. It could be interconnecting apps using jack or a single app that does it for you, try, try, try, and ask. Philipp -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Setting Up Jack, Envy24
#1 seems like a no-brainer, but... My installation changes this setting every time I boot. Since I have a Delta 1010LT, I select ICE1712 (the chipset on the Delta). I start Jack, then I open the Envy24 control panel for the soundcard, then I open Ardour. The audio in and out of Ardour is adjusted on the Envy 24. There is also a monitor input selector on Envy24. The cables from the Delta 1010LT aren't fully labeled, near as I can tell. This information is what I have needed at bare minimum to get the editor working. As I can get sound in and out, I'm now at the stage where I'm learning to edit on Ardour. http://www.ubustu.com/globe/2007/05/29/how-to-configure-jack-in-ubuntu-studio/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Setting Up Jack, Envy24
Well I got a little further with your info ...like that I am getting the numbers happening but I keep having to change one of the things as the xrun thing is a problem so I am not there yet. I think I have decided to install ubuntustudio on my other machine that has ubuntu 7.10 on it but I don't know how to update from a dvd. The other machine has a good soundcard so that would solve a lot. C Dave Ricketzz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #1 seems like a no-brainer, but... My installation changes this setting every time I boot. Since I have a Delta 1010LT, I select ICE1712 (the chipset on the Delta). I start Jack, then I open the Envy24 control panel for the soundcard, then I open Ardour. The audio in and out of Ardour is adjusted on the Envy 24. There is also a monitor input selector on Envy24. The cables from the Delta 1010LT aren't fully labeled, near as I can tell. This information is what I have needed at bare minimum to get the editor working. As I can get sound in and out, I'm now at the stage where I'm learning to edit on Ardour. http://www.ubustu.com/globe/2007/05/29/how-to-configure-jack-in-ubuntu-studio/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.-- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Trouble with setting up Jack
Thanks but I have bashed my head too long and it hurts. I really don't understand alsa or anything sound wise in linux. I have decided to install ubuntustudio on my other machine as it has the better soundcard (well not soundonboard) and more ram too. I just don't know how to upgrade from a dvd via the respositories. C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:41:55 +1000 (EST) Carla wrote: Yeah I am afraid the visual side of my brain works better but so far so good with the tutorial. There are terms that I am still learning. OK I picked default as I do not know which to pick from the drop down box. The numbers are yellow and not red. It get's to about 70 something percentage and drops, rises, drops etc. Ok, as long as there is only green 0 (0) below 'Started' and no red numbers, everything's fine. The yellow % numbers are cpu-load. It shouldn't be at 70% but rather fairly below 10%. Yes I realise I will have to put a proper soundcard in. I will hopefully get one this week but it depends on finances. I have a really good network of people around me that can get me a good one. It won't be the best one ofcourse but maybe it will. When getting a soundcard, make sure it is compatible. The best place to check that is: http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main Anyway when I am recording I am using a microphone. I don't record musical instruments at all. I also don't use a lot of tracks when making music after all I am from the old skool of Hip Hop where music is not the focus. It s about the lyrics. C The main strengths of the jack system are the possibility to get really low latencies and very flexible routing. If you don't have high requirements, single applications using alsa might suffice. For loop-based and straight stuff, lmms could be a all-in-one option (similar to fruity loops), but beware that it's still pretty early in development and that it's not in Ubuntu Studio by default. Try and test, find out what works for you. It could be interconnecting apps using jack or a single app that does it for you, try, try, try, and ask. Philipp -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.-- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Trouble with setting up Jack
Hi Andrew Yep I get sound on startup and using voice like when chatting in skype. I don't know re-wire. I do know what a patchbay is as I used one in a studio I used to use where there was a Mac and protools on it but I am afraid I wasn't experienced enough sometimes. Like if someone changed things around the day before I went in it was hell to remember where everything was supposed to be. I only every used protools and I recorded vocals there. I used to walk in with the backing track(music) already done at home and load it in via the cd or dvd drive. Sometimes from a flash drive. There was also mixind desk there too but I always had trouble remembering what went where. Gee I wish I could get my head around your explanation. I am sorry I don't get it. C Andrew Oikle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carla. By the looks of it, your sound card is compatible. If you haven't already, you need to understand what Jack is for. If you've used Re-Wire in the Windoze world, it's like that but better. It's used to route (wire) audio inputs and outputs between the music programs and the soundcard, so it's actually your patchbay. It's also used to synchronize tempo of the multiple music programs you choose. For instance I use Ardour to record. To route inputs from the soundcard, I go to Jack, click connect and connect the soundcard inputs on the left panel (which might appear as 'capture_1' and 'capture_2' under 'alsa_pcm' or 'system') to the tracks I created in Ardour on the right that appear under 'ardour'. You will probably need to click on the [+] to expand and see the individual connections under each program you see in Jack. You simply connect these inputs and outputs by click-dragging between them. Ardour depends on Jack to connect all its tracks to it's master output and bus'es too. You disconnect by clicking on both sides of the connection and clicking disconnect. Don't click Disconnect All unless you really mean to Disconnect All. So to not get confused, the input of the soundcard is actually an output in Jack, called Readable Clients which makes more sense said that way. The Writeable Clients such as your soundcard output system or alsa_pcm, is an Input in Jack but a physical output respectively. Look at like the 'inputs' to your 'outputs' and the 'outputs' of your 'inputs'. For each Jack-aware music app (eg. Hydrogen), you'll also see them in the Jack connections panel. To understand what Alsa is in the Linux world, Instead of getting a driver for windows from that soundcard's website, Alsa is the sound driver(s) for all the different sound cards our there, a one-for-all(most actually), instead of one-for-one in the shitty windows world. If you get any sound without Jack (ie. the startup sound), your card is working and you really don't need to understand more about Alsa. Hope that helps. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks but I have bashed my head too long and it hurts. I really don't understand alsa or anything sound wise in linux. I have decided to install ubuntustudio on my other machine as it has the better soundcard (well not soundonboard) and more ram too. I just don't know how to upgrade from a dvd via the respositories. C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:41:55 +1000 (EST) Carla wrote: Yeah I am afraid the visual side of my brain works better but so far so good with the tutorial. There are terms that I am still learning. OK I picked default as I do not know which to pick from the drop down box. The numbers are yellow and not red. It get's to about 70 something percentage and drops, rises, drops etc. Ok, as long as there is only green 0 (0) below 'Started' and no red numbers, everything's fine. The yellow % numbers are cpu-load. It shouldn't be at 70% but rather fairly below 10%. Yes I realise I will have to put a proper soundcard in. I will hopefully get one this week but it depends on finances. I have a really good network of people around me that can get me a good one. It won't be the best one ofcourse but maybe it will. When getting a soundcard, make sure it is compatible. The best place to check that is: http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main Anyway when I am recording I am using a microphone. I don't record musical instruments at all. I also don't use a lot of tracks when making music after all I am from the old skool of Hip Hop where music is not the focus. It s about the lyrics. C The main strengths of the jack system are the possibility to get really low latencies and very flexible routing. If you don't have high requirements, single applications using alsa might suffice. For loop-based and straight stuff, lmms could be a all-in-one option (similar to fruity loops), but beware that it's still pretty early in development and that it's not in Ubuntu Studio by default. Try and test, find out what works for you. It could be interconnecting